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sonmvayina:
He has got nothing to do with the creator of heaven and earth. Who gave us laws to follow. And never asked us to follow any other ideology...
Yahushua is an idol created by Rome..

Obey God's commandments, your life depend on it, not some idol fashioned in the likenes of a man..

Yahushua the Messiah has everything to do with the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty. He is the embodiment. Accept it, reject it, it will not make any difference.

sonmvayina:
One step at a time

How is Gods divine commandments equal to jebus/yehosuah ?

So you mean, you can't tell when somebody is lying to you?

Say more about the water element thing. Stop being evasive.

sonmvayina:
It is forbidden to mention the name of an idol

Sonmvayina, I will maintain the path of righteousness that has been marked out for me by my Master and Saviour, Yahushua the Messiah. Follow your own path.


Let us finish the water element thing.

Janosky:
Oga,Believe the statement of Jesus Christ in your Bible. John 14:10-11 = John 17:21-22.
Please note the bolded Viz a vix your claim.

21 that all of them may be one,Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.(C) 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me ,that they may be one as we are one—.
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Jesus is in the Father @ John 14:10.
The disciples /Jesus is in the Father, @John 17:21-22.
That is Jesus response to your claim on John 14:10-11
There is NOTHING Trinitarian about John 14:10-11 and John 17:21-22. ONENESS of the disciples with God our Father and Jesus Christ his Son is Unity of purpose just as Man and wife are one is unity of purpose (in marriage)
The same manner Paul and Apollos are One.

John 17:17 Jesus says "your word is truth."
"Your word" @ John 17:17 is NOT Jesus Christ.

John 14:10 Jesus said "The words I say to you", is "your (his Father's ) Word" @ John 17:17 & John 7:16 & John 15:15.
Oga, do you now understand?
John 14:10 "The words I say to you "( @ John 17:17)" is the doctrine our Heavenly Father instructed Jesus to teach @ John 7:16 & John 15:15.
Shalom.

I will hold on to mine. Hold onto yours. It is quite obvious that we are never going to agree on any of the issues raised here.

sonmvayina:
The new testament is not scriptures..

Stop it.

It is just Roman /Greeks bull shit that went too far..
They added at the end of the Jewish one to deceive you and you fell for it..

So when did God tell Moses the law is jebus?

It was added by

Who is Jebus?

Eeemm, stop what?

Let us continue what you started. How is your element water? You said you were from the waters, right? I am interested in this line of discourse. Let us conclude it once and for all.

sonmvayina:
You are using the new testament to prove the new testament. Show me where the 10 commandments means an embodiment of jebus in the Tanakh

What you call the new testament contain the Word of YHVH Almighty.

Deut 32: 45 When Moses finished reciting all these words to all Israel, 46 he said to them, “Take to heart all the words I have solemnly declared to you this day, so that you may command your children to obey carefully all the words of this law. 47 They are not just idle words for you—they are your life. By them you will live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to possess.”

John 14: 6 Yahushua answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

John 5: 39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

1 John 2: 24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us—eternal life.

1 John 5: 11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Sonmvayina, what you call the new testament are also part of the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

sonmvayina:
What is your question?

I think I have

Go and confirm.

Aptly put.

sonmvayina:
I do..

They where given for us to make good choices and live a healthy and fulfilled life...and in peace with our fellow men

You did not answer the questions.

sonmvayina:
This is above you..

One step at a time

Just stick to what you can accept now

There is nothing you have to say that is above me in any way, shape or form. It appears you know what awaits your response. Isn't it why you carefully evaded the questions the other time?
Just answer the questions.

sonmvayina:
I do...

Factor in jebus

Factor in what? It is not for humans to factor in anything or anyone.


Yahushua the Messiah is YHVH's Salvation. He is the embodiment of the Ten Commandments. He is the Word of YHVH Almighty.

Luke 2: “Sovereign YHVH, as you have promised,
you may now dismiss your servant in peace.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
31 which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and the glory of your people Israel.”

John 14:6 Yahushua answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Sublime.

Apt.

Sublime.

Sublime.

Mtcheeeeew.

Sublime.

sonmvayina:
Factor in jesus the fake Messiah..

That's the part I don't get

Do you or do you not believe that the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty constitute his SALVATION?

sonmvayina:
So what role is jesus or the name you give him get to do with it?

You evaded the questions. Answer them first.

sonmvayina:
My natural element is water...

Do you understand??

You didn't answer the question. Your natural element is water? How so?

sonmvayina:
How can you follow the 10 commandments of God

And still believe in a fake Messiah

I don't get the connection?

Did God ever ask anybody to follow anybody apart from him??

Sonmvayina, the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty constitute his SALVATION. You would know this if you knew him.

sonmvayina:
Yes,

Is that not what I have been advocating here since I joined nairaland!!

Like I always say.

Commandments number 1 says
I am the lord your God who brought thee out of the land of Egypt and put of the house of bondage, you shall have NO OTHER GOD before me..
Meaning : No intermediary.

Commandments number 2:
Do not make the image OR LIKENESS of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth, Do not now down to them or serve them..

You will agree with me if you are sincere that worshipping the likeness of a man (something that is found on earth) is prohibited and condemned in this commandment...

Commandment number 3

Remember the Sabbath day (sunset on Friday to sundown on Saturday) and keep it holy..


I try my best to keep it from 1 to 10, if I miss it, I do what is asked
"If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and confess their sins and forsake their evil ways, I will hear from heaven, I will forgive their sins and heal their land...He never said anything about sending a demi god as a sin sacrifice...

I don't know what you think I am doing wrong, point it out..

Sonmvayina, if you knew the God who gave the Ten Commandments and the Ten Commandments, you would have realized and known that the Ten Commandments constitute his SALVATION. Do you agree with me that the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty constitute his SALVATION?

Sonmvayina, do you realize that the Word of YHVH Almighty is the only way to know him and that obedience to his Word is the way to get his approval.

Sonmvayina, do you know that the Word of YHVH Almighty is the only medium between him and his creatures?


It takes the Spirit of the Creator to keep his Ten Commandments. No one can go wrong keeping them.

sonmvayina:
Lol..that one too..

If you could comprehend it,

You will see where I said human are grouped under 4 natural element of fire, water, air and earth....it is a part of Astrology which I am sure you are too scared to even read..

Not from..

What?

Sonmvayina, are you from the waters?

How far nah? Very useless bunch of slaves of Satan.

Why are they afraid? Take up the challenge.

Don't ever forget this.

Is your religion approved by the Creator?

Sublime.

It is official.

sonmvayina:
The God that gave Moses the 10 commandments..and ask human to keep and obey them.

Do you know him? Do you observe his Ten Commandments?

sonmvayina:
I guess my wisdom and knowledge is way ahead of you.

Sorry...

What wisdom and knowledge? You mean the wisdom that said you were from the waters?

Ehmmah588:
Are you implying that Christians are not allowed to be rich?

How did you arrive at such conclusion?

Mind you, I am not a Christian.