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Maynman:
Before nko, my life is not miserable that I’ll be basing my life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

Go your way.

budaatum:
Of course I am right.

Your antecedents get to determine that.

Do you know what it is?

budaatum:
Thankfully, you don't get to determine that and nor do you buy me my data.

You are right.

Maynman:
Stop lying to yourself.
Was the new or Old Testament written in English?

Carry your own load with your own energy.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

Do you know what it is?


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Maynman:
“god” is an English word from germanic origin.
Was the new or Old Testament written in English?

Tell yourself.

budaatum:
No elated, that's not exactly true. What's true is you don't understand the sense I'm making.

Look at you. You don't even know what questions to ask in order to gain understanding of what I wrote.

Budaatum, you have no business being on this thread.

tctrills:
You disagree?

How did that comment of yours sound in your ears?

tctrills:
I would agree with you on this. I have often stated it on this platform, God is not a particular person. Its a state

What did you just say?

MaxInDHouse:
There is no scripture that says "YHWH is with YHWH" because YHWH is one person not two.

Go and read Psalms 110:1

There it is clear that YHWH told Jesus saying "sit at my right hand" perhaps YHWH was talking to Himself!

Eheh? So?

budaatum:
You would not understand what I'm saying, elated, no matter how much I try.

The Word is as God as the finger is the moon, but many look at the finger and think it is the moon. It's why some of you bow down and worship a book instead of understanding what you read in the book.

They tried it on Jesus too, but I so love his response.

You aren't making any sense, budaatum.

Righteousness and unrighteousness do not agree.

MaxInDHouse:
YHWH is a name but GOD is a title.

So?

budaatum:
John 1:1 is in direct contravention of [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020&version=NIV&interface=amp]Exodus 20:4[/url], as it makes the Word an Image of God and replaces that which God is written to have created in God's image.

You don't know what you are saying.

budaatum:
That said, Jesus, in stating the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2012%3A30-31&version=NIV&interface=amp]most important of all the commandments[/url] as "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these", is a reminder to you that you, and more especially your neighbours, are those one should serve, and there's nothing more humanist than that.

What is your point?

El Elohe Yahshrael!

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with YHVH, and the Word was YHVH.

The Word of YHVH Almighty cannot be separated from YHVH Almighty, they are one.


John 1: 18 No one has ever seen YHVH, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

tctrills:
So the meaning of Sabbath day is simply the seventh day. God's command is simple, rest on the seventh day. He never spoke of any particular day. So long as the seventh day of rest is observed, the commandment is kept.

What?

It is another Sabbath.

AntiChristian:
Man: But David clapped and sang to God.

Me: are you a Davido. You believe Jesus died for your sins, right?

This is puerility!

King David was a man after YHVH's heart. He was the best king in Israel. King David set such a great standard that no king in Israel could measure up to or surpass. His ways pleased his Creator. King David sang and danced to his Creator, his God, YHVH Almighty, and he was pleased with him because he was obedient to his Commandments.

Yahushua the Messiah, the Word and the begotten Son of YHVH Almighty, died for my sins and for the sins of the whole world.

AntiChristian:
Man: Yes

Me: Do you love Jesus?

Man: Of course, anyone who rejects Jesus shall perish.

Me: you really do love him?

Man: very very dearly.

Me: were you to be alive about 2000 years ago and Jesus was about to be crucified, and it is in your capacity to save him, would you save your darling Jesus or let him die?

It is the duty of a person's God to save the person and not the other way round. Is it not hilarious making such a statement, Lucas/antichristian? I think it quite absurd and hilarious and outrageous.
Moreover, Yahushua the Messiah had already told his disciples and followers what his mission on earth was.

John 18: 11 Yahushua commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me? 36 Yahushua said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

Matthew 26: 52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Yahushua said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. 53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?”

AntiChristian:
Man : (Laughing), you this man ehn…

Me: You see, Jesus prayed to God to be saved from death if God wills, being exceedingly sorrowful in Matthew 26:39 while Hebrew 5:7 confirms that his prayer was heard attesting to Psalm 37 :28 which says God does not forsake his righteous proving to us that the one saying “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” in Matthew 27 :46 and Mark 15:34 couldn’t have been Jesus since God doesn’t forsake his righteous ones.

Hebrews 5: 7 During the days of Yahushua’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. 8 Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9 and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him 10 and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.

What were you trying to establish by quoting Hebrews 5:7? Explicitly state it.

AntiChristian:
Man : You are just quoting verses upon verses

Me : are they not in your Bible?, I am giving you these verses so you can note them down then confirm them when you get your Bible. Can someone who wasn’t sent to the world die for the world?

Man : I don’t understand

Me : Jesus forbade his disciples from going to the house of the gentiles nor to the city of the Samaritans because HE WAS SENT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL in Matthew 10:5-6, And having ignored a woman from Canaan seeking healing for her daughter, he said that he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel in Matthew 15:24, so Jesus couldn’t have died for the sins of humanity.

Man: You don’t understand. In the olden days, they do kill animals as atonement for their sins. Why are you no longer doing it today, it is because Jesus died for us.

Me: Haha, the Egyptians weren’t making such sacrifice not even the Canaanites, no nation except Israel. Also note that, The supposed crucifixion of Jesus changed nothing in the tradition of Israel, he was crucified according to the Bible as a criminal not as an atonement for their sins. He was a common man, of no eminence amongst the Jews and he was hunted. That aside, In Ezekiel 18:20 and Deuteronomy 24:16, the Bible says The son shall not die for the sins of father and vice versa, everyone shall bear the consequences of their actions either righteousness or iniquity, so why should Jesus die for us?

Man: (stammering and trembling), are you now saying that the Bible is fake because I once saw a Muslim who said the Bible is fake.

Me: That Muslim does not know what he is saying

Man: Exactly.

Me: Perhaps he is confused as to which Bible he should choose as the word of God given that the Catholic Bible consists of 73 Books and the protestant Bible consists of 66 books not to mention the Jewish orthodox Bible and others. You know it could be much more confusing when you even realise that the protestant Bibles themselves do not agree. For instance, the NIV, RSV, NWT unceremoniously expunged sixteen verses from their own Bible which are present in the KJV. Check the NWT, you will find Romans 16 :23 and 25 but you won’t find verse 24.

Even, the each Bible contradicts itself in contrast to the Qur’an which is sacrosanct not because it is above criticism but it is void of corruption, being incorruptible and has remained in its pure pristine purity for over a Millennium. So, the Muslim might be right. If he says the Bible is fake, give him the original.

Man: Well, I don’t judge if one religion is good or bad, all I know is that everybody should practise what they want.

Me: But I didn’t stop you for a conversation, you did. look, what is that?

Man: A car

Me: Why are you judging?

Man: I didn’t.

Me: Fine. You see, pointing out what is wrong as wrong is not judging, it is just like calling a car a car.

Man: See, I know Many Muslims. Muslims believe in God, and they believe there is Allah and Allah is the slave of God.

Me: (talking amidst laughter) Please, what did you eat this morning? You must have eaten frozen rice (استغفرالله العظيم).

Allah means God in Arabic and Muhammad (SAW) is believed to be the Messenger of Allah (God). Just contact me since you now have my number.

Man: okay, thank you.

Me : You are welcome.
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If the disbelievers can’t stand answering simple questions from Muslims who are mere mortals, questions that make them fret, stammer and tremble, how are they going to withstand being questioned by the creator of Heaven and earth? الله سبحان و تعالى

May we not go astray… Ameen

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman
https://knowislam.com.ng/when-a-christian-questions-an-ex-christian-bashir-lucas-samson-lukman/?fbclid=IwAR3FGIHhyYWs-kccMefmN0ODNZNcjD0gwB8n7hgcXeC_-Wc6J0Udv6urfbA

Is there any need to continue with the responses? Ultimately, I have shown you that you don't know what you are saying.

Antichristian/Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman, the Scriptures didn't give us, the saints, servants, followers and messengers of YHVH Almighty, specifications on how the saints, servants, followers and messengers of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, should pray.

We pray as the Set-apart Spirit (Holy Spirit) of YHVH Almighty leads. Sometimes we groan when praying, rejoice when praying, cry when praying or even laugh when praying.

We can bow down while on our knees. We can bow our heads while standing. We can lie faced down on the ground or on the bed. We can lie with our backs to the ground and our faces looking to the heavens. We can kneel down with our hands outstretched or spread wide apart and our faces lifted to heavens. We can stand, sit down, squat, etc, and our prayers will still be heard, even before we start praying.

You see, Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman/antichristian, the saint, servant, follower or messenger of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, has not committed any sin if he or she takes any of those positions during prayer. In fact, what pleases our Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, the most is obedience to his Commandments. It is this obedience that qualifies us to pray to him.

You see, Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman/antichristian, the position taken by a saint, servant, follower or messenger of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah, does not determine how YHVH Almighty treats his or her prayers. Nope! What grants such saint, servant, follower or messenger of YHVH Almighty audience is his or her obedience to the Commandments of YHVH Almighty.

Some of us even pray while walking along the road.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

AntiChristian:
Me: Okay… I don’t even know where to start. Well, for a start, the true mode of worship is lost in Christianity. In Matthew 26:39, The Bible says Jesus bowed to God, even Satan asked Jesus to bow to him in Matthew 4-8,meaning that Satan also knew what reverence is there to bow down in worship. In 2Kings 17:36, the Bible asks us to fear God alone and to Him alone should we bow in worship. Jesus never clapped , sing, jumped, wiggled, twisted while worshiping God rather he bowed. So, all modern forms of worship in Christianity today were not taught by Jesus neither did he went to church on Sunday in the Bible.

John 6:11 Yahushua then took the loaves, gave thanks, and distributed to those who were seated as much as they wanted. He did the same with the fish.

John 11:41 So they took away the stone. Then Yahushua looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. 42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”


John 17: 17 After Yahushua said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:

“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

Mark 7: He looked up to heaven and with a deep sigh said to him, “Ephphatha!” (which means “Be opened!”).

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman, what did Yahushua the Messiah do in the Scriptures highlighted above?

AntiChristian:
Few days ago, I was traveling, got on the phone, gave some verses in the Bible and Qur’an. I alighted then a man swiftly walked up to me and the following conversation ensued ;

Man: Sorry sir

Me: Yes?

Man: this is the first time I am seeing a Muslim quote the Bible

Me: Eeyah, Actually, I was a Christian, now a Muslim.

Man: Ah, I have seen Muslims become Christians, I have never seen a Christian become Muslims

Me: eeyah, it is because you don’t want to see sir. There are millions.

Man: but why did you change?

Me: As you can see, I am heading somewhere and we are in the public, I will give you my phone number so you can contact me (gives him the number)

Man: Thank you, which area are you heading to?

Me: I am walking down the road

Man: I am going the same way, I will stop at FCMB. could you please tell me why you reverted while we keep walking?

Me: Okay… I don’t even know where to start. Well, for a start, the true mode of worship is lost in Christianity. In Matthew 26:39, The Bible says Jesus bowed to God, even Satan asked Jesus to bow to him in Matthew 4-8,meaning that Satan also knew what reverence is there to bow down in worship. In 2Kings 17:36, the Bible asks us to fear God alone and to Him alone should we bow in worship. Jesus never clapped , sing, jumped, wiggled, twisted while worshiping God rather he bowed. So, all modern forms of worship in Christianity today were not taught by Jesus neither did he went to church on Sunday in the Bible.

Man: But David clapped and sang to God.

Me: are you a Davido or a Christian? If you are a Christian, follow Jesus. I really wish there is time. You believe Jesus died for your sins, right?

Man: Yes

Me: Do you love Jesus?

Man: Of course, anyone who rejects Jesus shall perish.

Me: you really do love him?

Man: very very dearly.

Me: were you to be alive about 2000 years ago and Jesus was about to be crucified, and it is in your capacity to save him, would you save your darling Jesus or let him die?

Man : (Laughing), you this man ehn…

Me: You see, Jesus prayed to God to be saved from death if God wills, being exceedingly sorrowful in Matthew 26:39 while Hebrew 5:7 confirms that his prayer was heard attesting to Psalm 37 :28 which says God does not forsake his righteous proving to us that the one saying “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” in Matthew 27 :46 and Mark 15:34 couldn’t have been Jesus since God doesn’t forsake his righteous ones.

Man : You are just quoting verses upon verses

Me : are they not in your Bible?, I am giving you these verses so you can note them down then confirm them when you get your Bible. Can someone who wasn’t sent to the world die for the world?

Man : I don’t understand

Me : Jesus forbade his disciples from going to the house of the gentiles nor to the city of the Samaritans because HE WAS SENT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL in Matthew 10:5-6, And having ignored a woman from Canaan seeking healing for her daughter, he said that he was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel in Matthew 15:24, so Jesus couldn’t have died for the sins of humanity.

Man: You don’t understand. In the olden days, they do kill animals as atonement for their sins. Why are you no longer doing it today, it is because Jesus died for us.

Me: Haha, the Egyptians weren’t making such sacrifice not even the Canaanites, no nation except Israel. Also note that, The supposed crucifixion of Jesus changed nothing in the tradition of Israel, he was crucified according to the Bible as a criminal not as an atonement for their sins. He was a common man, of no eminence amongst the Jews and he was hunted. That aside, In Ezekiel 18:20 and Deuteronomy 24:16, the Bible says The son shall not die for the sins of father and vice versa, everyone shall bear the consequences of their actions either righteousness or iniquity, so why should Jesus die for us?

Man: (stammering and trembling), are you now saying that the Bible is fake because I once saw a Muslim who said the Bible is fake.

Me: That Muslim does not know what he is saying

Man: Exactly.

Me: Perhaps he is confused as to which Bible he should choose as the word of God given that the Catholic Bible consists of 73 Books and the protestant Bible consists of 66 books not to mention the Jewish orthodox Bible and others. You know it could be much more confusing when you even realise that the protestant Bibles themselves do not agree. For instance, the NIV, RSV, NWT unceremoniously expunged sixteen verses from their own Bible which are present in the KJV. Check the NWT, you will find Romans 16 :23 and 25 but you won’t find verse 24.

Even, the each Bible contradicts itself in contrast to the Qur’an which is sacrosanct not because it is above criticism but it is void of corruption, being incorruptible and has remained in its pure pristine purity for over a Millennium. So, the Muslim might be right. If he says the Bible is fake, give him the original.

Man: Well, I don’t judge if one religion is good or bad, all I know is that everybody should practise what they want.

Me: But I didn’t stop you for a conversation, you did. look, what is that?

Man: A car

Me: Why are you judging?

Man: I didn’t.

Me: Fine. You see, pointing out what is wrong as wrong is not judging, it is just like calling a car a car.

Man: See, I know Many Muslims. Muslims believe in God, and they believe there is Allah and Allah is the slave of God.

Me: (talking amidst laughter) Please, what did you eat this morning? You must have eaten frozen rice (استغفرالله العظيم).

Allah means God in Arabic and Muhammad (SAW) is believed to be the Messenger of Allah (God). Just contact me since you now have my number.

Man: okay, thank you.

Me : You are welcome.
_________________________

If the disbelievers can’t stand answering simple questions from Muslims who are mere mortals, questions that make them fret, stammer and tremble, how are they going to withstand being questioned by the creator of Heaven and earth? الله سبحان و تعالى

May we not go astray… Ameen

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman
https://knowislam.com.ng/when-a-christian-questions-an-ex-christian-bashir-lucas-samson-lukman/?fbclid=IwAR3FGIHhyYWs-kccMefmN0ODNZNcjD0gwB8n7hgcXeC_-Wc6J0Udv6urfbA

You already know that I am not a Christian. However, since you have mentioned the Scriptures, you have attracted my attention.

Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman, is this how you proselytize?

There are only two sexes: male and female.
There are only two genders: male and female.
Nothing is ever going to change this eternal reality. Nature has made it so.

sonmvayina:
Lol...dummy like you.


It is called natural element. Fire, water, air and earth...

Who did you call a dummy? Did you or did you not say you were from the water?

True.

Sublime.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm here for the OP so go ahead and teach if you have the knowledge!

I never said that you were here for me, did I, maxindhouse?

El Elohe Yahshrael!


Isaiah 42:20-22:- You have seen many things, but have paid no attention; your ears are open, but you hear nothing. It pleased YHVH for the sake of his righteousness to make his law great and honourable. But this is a people plundered and looted, all of them trapped in pits or hidden away in prisons. They have become plunder, with no one to rescue them; they have been made loot, with no one to say, "send them back."

People have been held bound and captive by the doctrines and commandments of men. Subjected to slavery by evil men and women who use the set-apart Scripture of our Father in heaven - which they twist - to cover their demonic agenda. Many people are being raped, looted, and plundered, both spiritually and physically, by sons of the darkness.

Why is this? Why have these messengers of darkness been able to carry out this evil successfully?

The following Scriptures explicitly explain that.

Isaiah 42:23-24:- 'Which of you will listen to this or pay close attention in time to come? Who handed Jacob over to become loot, and Israel to the plunderers? Was it not YHVH, against whom we have sinned? For they would not follow his ways; they did not obey his law.'

2 Thess 2:9-12 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve that lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason YHVH sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

If 2 Thess 2:9-12 does not wake you up from your slumber and spur you to stop running after signs, wonders and miracles and start studying the great and awesome Scriptures for yourself, nothing will.

The Word of our Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty has life. It is full of energy. This energy can only be released by obedience as we see in the Scripture below.

Deuteronomy 11:8 Observe therefore all the commands I am giving you today, so that you may have the strength to go in and take over the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess.

It is the energy released by virtue of obedience to the Word of the Father that strengthens and reinvigorates his saints. When you have this energy in you, there won't be any need to run from one man to another all in the name signs, wonders and miracles. It is as simple as it sounds. Some people, while seeking signs, wonders and miracles, have succeeded in bringing demons into their homes, which in turn cause them all sorts problems and then they run back to the same messengers of darkness and so the cycle continues. Bound, captive and enslaved.

Physics has taught us that energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

The great and awesome energy that flows from the Father of the heavenly lights to his saints, when we obey his Word, cannot be destroyed. It lives for ever. Anyone who has this energy lives for ever...eternal life in the kingdom of our Father...John 6:40,48-51,53-58.
But those who do not have it will be annihilated at the end of age.

Since people have refused to obey and follow the truth of the Father in heaven, they have been sent false prophets and false teachers who will tell them exactly what their itchy ears want to hear.

Study the set-apart Scriptures for yourself. Obey what they instruct you. Then, power will flow from the Father to you. Power to overcome all the trials and persecutions. Power to proclaim his great and awesome name and disseminate his truth without fear or favor. Not power to acquire wealth and wallow in conspicuous consumption.

There is no ambiguity there. Is there?

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not here for you so if you have anything tangible to contribute please go ahead you and i aren't on the same page!

Lol. You dey fear? Lol....

budaatum:
You saying, you know my intentions, elated177?

Then tell me what my intentions are so I can check if you do know my intentions or not, because I will continue stating my opinion whether you discuss with me or not.

It is a free forum, budaatum.

hort07:
You can teach us sir, very interested in learning

You should do the teaching. We are very interested in learning as well.

MaxInDHouse:
And let us consider one another so as to incite to love and fine works, not forsaking our meeting together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as you see the day drawing near! Hebrews 10:24-25

Anyone praying or having any act of worship in isolation (private) can only gain personal things {Matthew 6:6} but when it comes to salvation through Christ we mustn't be isolated! Matthew 18:20

Satan knew this that's why he began the spiritual war against the church immediately after Jesus' ascension {1John 2:18} Jesus foresaw this {Matthew 13:25} but today Jesus has called out his own true disciples from the world empire of false religions {Revelations 18:4} today God's angels are gathering sects in false religions for destruction {Matthew 13:30} but His own worshipers He has given another group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

Define church?