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To be honest, what this thread proves is that there's a time when daft people get tired of their fellow daft people.
Classick examples abound, this mob of silly people got tired of just junk and more junk, now you want me to save you.

I'll do sumn bout this.

edoyad:
an attack minded player at 18 could be molded into anything. Dude was Feyenord's most impressive player last season according to many fans. The problem is he's just 18.

You don't mould a player in the first team bruv.

ritchboy:
That Gibbs boy sef is always injured. I thunk Jenkinsen is an RB. . . Traore? He managed just 12 appearances last season at Juve.

Miyaichi is looking like he's the real deal.

Isn't Myachi a winger??

The only problem with this is that the idiots that burnt people to death and hacked up heads are walking free in Maiduguri.

@cold

I deleted your post because you were derailing an important thread, get used to it.

This is not hard, if you have an interesting topic, set it up. If it's good people will comment.

#ICantShout

Ibime:
Twitter killed the music section. . .oya retweet that to all the music section heads currently domiciled on twitter. hehehehe

#ThisIsASUB

Subscribing.

mystikal:
Clichy supported Man city as a child.

'I really believe if you are a player who thinks only about money then you could end up at Manchester City,' - Clichy (2009)

StarBoard:
@eldee,
Really?
So let me get this right:you choose to be ambiguous to defend a guy who used to diss players for not being "real" just because he eventually sold out?
So the rap battles between LL any Kool Moe dee,MC shan& KRS One just to mention a few were over what?The east/west feud in the mid nineties that took hip-hop to another level,commercially and even artistically was over what?
If you must know,real hip-hop DOES exist,or rather has existed at some point in the game.Whether or not you choose to believe it or not.@

You wanna go into name-dropping, I'll take you as far back as Grandmaster-Flash and Afrika Bambaataa.
But if you wanna talk logic . . . what you call 'real hiphop' here is gangsta rap.

The world got tired of gangsta rap and rappers like Jay-Z and Snoop Dogg jumped off that . . . at the end of the day, you decide what he sings.
There's a reason why even with Dre 'I Need a Doctor' is more successful than 'Kush' . . . that won't have been the same a in the 90s.
What you have is a misconception that one type of rap is better than the other . . . and it's a simple opinion, and that's where it ends, an opinion.

Yeah right . . . PHCN does adverts 'be used for the revenue drive of the PHCN'.
GTFOH!!!

Twitter: @He_is_el

@Starboard.

There is no such thing as true hiphop.

#okbye

Sagamite:
What I asked you was to "Show me where I called for anyone's head or I made it/said it was the most important factor".

1. If you are wrong I will correct you. Correcting you does not mean I am denying you your "rights". Didn't you study law?

2. "Herd mentality" basically equates to "norm" and definitely not "independent" thinking. Surely that N800K spent on your education was a waste in terms of the English language . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .and law.  

3.  Definition of a Buzz word: "a word  or phrase, often sounding authoritative or technical, that is a vogue term in a particular profession, field of study, popular culture, etc". Thinking outside the box is a technical word used in vogue in a lot of fields like law, consulting, academia and the intellectual cliques, so it is a buzzword. If one is not in the clique, they wouldn't know.

Choose not to care at your own risk. I am virtually always right!

This is the part where you run out out of what to say and chat B.S?? Come on, we all know this.
Well this is the part where I refer you to the points already argued and ask you to attempt to defeat them.

Now this is silly . . . no offence intended. You said about ten minutes ago that you agree that different parents should be able do make decisions on childcare depending on their individual values.
I stated that exact point . . . and what, you think you're correcting me??

Let's even ignore that . . . what's obvious is the fact that you just confused a moral right to a legal right. . . as expected.
Maybe what you need is another £3000 a year university education, get it fast, it's £9000 from next year.

So if 'herd mentality' equates to 'norm', doesn't mean my independent thinking makes the conclusion of your line of argument inconsistent with the basic facts??
The social norm here is obviously what I've defied by stating that we have no right, moral or legal, to teach people how to raise their kids.

Yeah I get it . . . thinking outside the box is a buzzword in a discussion relating to childcare . . . maybe I just don't belong to the clique of keyboard warriors that had the perfect childhood and feel the need to teach Bill Gates how to do it right.

It's obvious . . . you're always right . . . it's funny how that sounds like what the Yorubas define as a fool.

I'm done here bruv. . . this ish is getting way too easy as usual.

Sagamite:
Who gives a hoot what you care about?  

You see me putting a gun to anyone's head not to raise their kids the way they see fit?

Why don't you report me to Amnesty International!

You don't care what I think about, then stop giving me what you read from 'Childraising for dummies' . . . I don't care bout it.
I can't report you to Amnesty International. . . again, I don't care bout how you choose to raise your kids.

Sagamite:
Show me where I called for anyone's head or I made it/said it was the most important factor.

What is my balancing and intelligent factor is to provide the kids with the best equipment to be the best human beings they can be.

For some parents, that might require their living words living a better life, for others, it might require the wards living an inferior life.

That is called "thinking outside the box" and not following a herd philosophy. The outside the box shitzo is the buzz word you requested for.

Look at these spoilted brat. You thought your ABC is betters than the ones we talikas gotted?

So basically, you have no objections to my opinion that people should be allowed to choose the best way to raise their kids, you just wanted to strike your keyboard because you saw Eldee on the thread?? Right decision.

And err . . . I follow 'herd philosophy' because I think people have rights to deviate from societal norms on what counts as good parenting?? Interesting.

Anyway . . . 'Thinking outside the box' is not a 'buzz-word'. You'll prolly have learnt that if you went to a 800k a year nursery.

Claus:
Just to clarify, Richard Branson's island is a mini resort that he mainly lets out. It's an income generator. It's very likely that his family get to go on vacations there for free, but they don't live there.

It shouldn't detract from the point that was being made, which is that a number of wealthy men attempt to instill good values in their kids by not over-pampering them.

At the end of the day, my parents don't own a 'Virgin Islands'. They still have get better life chances than every Nigerian family you know. They're still more 'pampered' than anyone I know.

Sagamite:
I will never spend that on a toddler except if there is a case for security reasons.

Wetin them wan teach am for nursery except ABC, to eat cookies, drink milk and poo in a bucket (abi wetin dem they call that child toilet)?

I don't care bout what you consider right or wrong. I care about peoples' rights to raise their kids the way they want without you bringing your perfect guidebook to parenting to scrutinise their decision.

If American parents pay that much to hire multi-lingual nannies to train their kids to have German/Spanish as their 'mother tongue', I think they should have a right to. If Nigerian parents think getting an early start should cost 800k, it's their business.
You have no factual basis to tell me it is detrimental to their growth/life-chances/value-system/success in life.

Sagamite:
What makes you conclude in your analysis that the only factor under consideration is "what the child experiences"?

What about what the parents wants?

You ever learnt the thing called "balancing"?

Aren't you the one making it the most important factor by calling for the head of the Senator the flies his children in business class??
Come on . . .with my crappy knowledge of parenting, I, for one know that most parents try to create a better childhood for their children compared to what they had. Shouldn't that come into your 'balancing' or 'pragmatism' or do you have to find another buzzword for that??

@Sagamite

N800k for nursery school is what you're crying about?? You do realise that its not uncommon for these billionaires get six-figure nannies??
Google 'Autumn Backman' if you think I'm making this up.

Sagamite:
You have to apply pragmatism intelligently in any assessment you make.

There are things within his control and things outside his control. Making an attempt at those within is control is reasonable enough.

What are you expecting? Instructions that they should not speak or get to know kids of family friends?

Rent them a house different from the parents' mansion to grow up in?

Going to the holiday home alone and refuse to spend time with the kids as you don't want them in the opulence?

Pragmatism!

Pragmatism?? So now we're making excuses for the Bransons??

Parents shape their lives to accommodate the type of lives they wanted me to experience. I'm not saying what they did is the right way to go, I'm just saying it's a reasonable option.
You know what people do when they want their children to experience the lives of a billionaire?? They do not live like billionaires.

If you don't want your children to be friends with Mariah Carey, then you don't bring her to your house on weekends.
If you wanted your children to live the life of the average child, you don't build Virgin Islands.
If you want them to value success from hardwork, don't create trustfunds in their name.
If you want your children to struggle for internships like normal kids . . . well you get the drift by now.

At the end of the day, the life chances these Brits and American billionaires provide for their kids make Bankole look like a joke.

Creating the 'I can't help it' excuse for Branson but telling the Nigerian parent he's committed treason because his kids get a business class flight is just amusing. . . and that's me applying pragmatism in my choice of words.

Sagamite:
What are you suggesting? To train your kids they should not stay in the same house or accommodation?

Or you have some info that he gives them some exclusive, spoilt use of the island?

I'm not the one trying to write a rulebook on child-rearing. All I've said is that it is daft to praise their restriction to economy-class flights as prudent if we ignore the fact that life on a billionaire's island is not the prudent lifestyle he's advocating.

Access to friends in the royal family/Fortune 500 company dinners, cars, home tuition, extensive travelling . . . and you tell me flying business class makes Adebola feel like he doesn't have to work for anything in life?? I call B.S.

All I can see on this thread is people using their own values as a yardstick to judge that of other people.

You use the Royal family as an example?? Those kids are public figures, the republicans are on the necks of the Royal family . . . all that is a front for the anti-royal section of the public. Doesn't count as a good example.

Richard Branson?? Yeah right. . . his children fly working class, but the fact that he's got an island doesn't count huh??
I'd gladly ride a bike up north and back if it means I come back to chill in my dad's Island.

You think we spend too much by flying first class?? Check out the kids of the big-shots in the UK economy. Or try the Arabs.
Ever heard of trust-fund babies?? Or the Hilton family?
Yes we do spend a lot on kids, but to assume that we're the only ones that do it is just baseless. Neither is the assumption that I'll turn out less successful if I fly first class.

At the end of the day, all you've done is tell us what you consider the ideal way to raise a child and imposed it on everyone else. We all know there is no manual for proper parenting, stop attempting to script one with your life.

v3:
Darn, i hate arguing with law folks
I've heard you. .we'll keep Cesc, Nasri and everyone. .like we've done for the past 6 season. God grant us life we see what happens by may next year.

Nah . . . your solution to sell quickly and buy 'established' Arshavin is what brought us here in the first place.
You and your Ramsey will replace Fabregas theory. . .lol

Mission Impossible: MI:2 was easily the best thing that's happened to espionage movies bar none.

v3:
You would rather frustrate a player than let him leave. .is that what you're saying?

YES!!!!!!!!! What's my business with the player's state of mind?
A professional player will still give his all whether or not he likes the team, ask Fergie.

You think there's any player in this world that doesn't want to play in Real Madrid or Barca??

slimshay:
We need to stop being in constant transition.

Exactly. . . if Fabregas leaves, he goes with 6 years of planning. . . see how much Nasri has adapted too, even Walcott, but no, let's sell them and buy Toulalan.

@v3

For someone who is a moderator on the Sports Section your level of lay man talk is amusing.

So because you can't keep them forever means you should sell them and get Toulalan?? Abi which kain pub-gist be this?? Nasri says he wants to go, we'll sell him too. If RVP says he misses the Red light district of Amsterdam, we sell him too. Let's just sell everyone and get 'established' players.

And what happens when the 'established' players say they don't like our shade of red, we sell them too??

The fact that you honestly think Barcelona would have backed off if we won the league this season is hilarious too.

It's alright though . . . it's your club too.

proudly9ja:
Arsene Wenger is slowly getting to that point I predicted years back,  where every one including his 'In Arsene we trust' brigade turns against him

Oh you're so smart because you predicted that a time will come when the leader of a football enterprise will be subject to doubts from the fans.
Are you Nostradamus in disguise?? You want credit for that??

How about you predict . . . do you think it will rain at one time or the other this winter??

@Debosky

How do we solve this V3's 'big-buy' delusion syndrome? We're here thinking of what to do about Nasri and this negro is on sum 'Let's buy Benzema'.
Like seriously?? Is that why we're here?
That's how he said we should sell Fabregas and get Toulalan.

The British press keeps feeding him with B.S and he keeps swallowing it.

ikestarr:
Nigerians can be very ignorant cunts, excuse my french, when they choose too.
N5billion is around £25million. That is an apt amount to sue a global giant for.
So,if you say he has asked for too much or has no basis for suing I'd recomend you either go back to your PARO-PARO face me i face you and be content with your mundane Nigerian existence or STFU and let the young man fight for his .

So the issue here isn't how much Nokia made from the alleged breach of rights to intellectual property, but how big Nokia is??
And I'm the ignorant cunt?

Akainzo:
@eldee I don't know which law you want to rely on, but your 'bonafide third party buyer' has no basis in law. Nobody loses there rights to their IPs due to you making an honest mistake. Or would you believe I need not pay for your car if I happen to buy it wrongly from your brother? The young man has a case and NOKIA had better start getting themselves some good lawyers.

We however agree, he isn't gonna get anywhere near the 5B, but he sure would walk away with much except if he had made some foolish rights agreements earlier.

WTF!!! Every property law has the bona-fide third party provisions. . . especially as Nigeria is a Common Law jurisdiction.
Nokia claimed they paid to someone. . . if that person is say the people 2shot sold the rights of the album to, prolly the Alaba Record Label, his claim will probably not be able to pin Nokia.

The issue at hand will become the fraudulent misrepresentation by the said record label and if Nokia could reasonably believe that 2shot put the company forward as rights-owners in his dealings.

I'm not sure about Nigerian law. . . but most common law jurisdictions(former UK colonies) are pretty much the same on this issue.

@Slimshay

I'm good man, I had exams and stuff.

A bona fide purchaser is anyone that buys from the wrong person in good faith.
If Nokia proves that they attempted to buy the rights from the right people and actually paid, they'll be paying considerably less.

He's suing Nokia for the phones they sold with his ringtones in them, and that's the X3 . . .and the truth is Nokia sells anything better than three 2shot songs.