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 Politics / Re: Peter Obi Outsmarts Tinubu, Shettima And INEC.. by Elemosho478: 1:34pm On Mar 22, 2023 |
soojar: You get it That's exactly what happened when they linked the funds in Tinubu's account to drugs. They seized it with civil fufeiture but then Tinubu challenged them in court when the case was dragging on the law enforcement agency and Tinubu opted for out of court settlement and Tinubu forfeited 460,000$ out of the 1.4 million dollars confiscated. The reason must be because neither Tinubu nor the law enforcement agency have the sufficient evidence to prove their case. Tinubu could not totally prove the money was not linked to Drugs and the agency could not also prove the money was linked to drugs to confiscate the whole 1.4 million dollar. So he forfeited 460,000$ in one account and they released the rest. Note if the law enforcement agency filed a criminal case against you in the USA you can not settle out of court even if you entered a Plea Bargain, the judge will still sentence you but they will skip the trial and perhaps reduce the punishment and sentence. And under USA federal law there is no way you will only lose just half of your confiscated assets just because you entered a plea bargain for drug related crimes in the US. When you entered plea bargain you have already admitted that you are guilty of the crimes. It is impossible that the sentence would just be losing half of your confiscated money without even any jail term even if you entered plea bargain for drug related crimes in the US. 6 Likes 1 Share
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| Politics / Re: Peter Obi Outsmarts Tinubu, Shettima And INEC.. by Elemosho478: 12:43pm On Mar 22, 2023 |
kozmokaz: US law enforcement agencies in the US can seized your assets without filing criminal charges against you. If he was never on trial for any crime in the US what are they going to testify against him for? Police abuse of civil asset forfeiture laws has shaken our nation’s conscience. Civil forfeiture allows police to seize — and then keep or sell — any property they allege is involved in a crime. Owners need not ever be arrested or convicted of a crime for their cash, cars, or even real estate to be taken away permanently by the government. https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police/asset-forfeiture-abuse 2 Likes |
| Politics / Re: Peter Obi Outsmarts Tinubu, Shettima And INEC.. by Elemosho478: 12:40pm On Mar 22, 2023 |
kozmokaz: Which testimony are you guys talking about ? Tinubu was never charged for any crime in the first place 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Politics / Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Elemosho478: 12:35pm On Mar 22, 2023 |
Workch: His absence from the United state won't stop them from filing charges against him if they have enough evidence to. They can use civic forfeiture against his assets and still file charges against him as a criminal if they have the evidence, even if he is not available in the US. |
| Politics / Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Elemosho478: 12:30pm On Mar 22, 2023 |
Workch: How can you call him a criminal when he was never charge for any crime ? Keep grasping at straws Police abuse of civil asset forfeiture laws has shaken our nation’s conscience. Civil forfeiture allows police to seize — and then keep or sell — any property they allege is involved in a crime. Owners need not ever be arrested or convicted of a crime for their cash, cars, or even real estate to be taken away permanently by the government. https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police/asset-forfeiture-abuse |
| Politics / Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Elemosho478: 12:28pm On Mar 22, 2023 |
DesChyko: Go and read about civic forfeiture in the United States The problem with you guys is you have been brainwashed to believe US have a perfect Judicial system Police abuse of civil asset forfeiture laws has shaken our nation’s conscience. Civil forfeiture allows police to seize — and then keep or sell — any property they allege is involved in a crime. Owners need not ever be arrested or convicted of a crime for their cash, cars, or even real estate to be taken away permanently by the government. https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police/asset-forfeiture-abuse |
| Politics / Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Elemosho478: 12:18pm On Mar 22, 2023 |
Workch: You are the one not reading my post You think Tinubu not being in USA would stop US government from filing a criminal charge against him if they have strong evidence to prove it? and you think they would let him get more than half of his money back from the Civic forfeiture if they have enough evidence to nailed and confiscate the whole 1.4 million dollars? You think they would let him get 1$ out of the total funds of 1.4million seized if he was really guilty ? . You think US government is that generous and benevolent ? You guys are lost cause |
| Politics / Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Elemosho478: 11:38am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Workch: How can he be a criminal if he was never charged for any crime ? who told you civic forfeiture is for criminals who don't reside in the US? Did you read my post and the various example of civic forfeiture cases listed there ? lol He was a criminal but the US Government only seized 460,000$ out of 1.4 million dollars ? why would they let him got half of the money if he was truly guilty ? Because Tinubu have nuke like Russia and China ? 1 Like |
| Politics / Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Elemosho478: 11:33am On Mar 22, 2023 |
IDENNAA: Keep arguing blindly go and research about civic forfeiture US Law enforcement agencies can seize your assets with civic forfeiture without charging you for any crimes. But after the seizure you can go and challenge it at the court, so if you later go to court to challenge the seizure does that mean the law enforcement agencies have charged you for any crimes ? Read my post again slowly. Most of you Obedients believe US law enforcement agencies can't confiscate your property without charging you for any crimes. 1 Like |
| Politics / Re: Does Forfeiting Your Assets In The US In A Civic Forfeiture Case Means Guilty ? by Elemosho478: 11:28am On Mar 22, 2023 |
YouandiAllofus: Google about it Law enforcement agencies can seize your asset with Civic Judicial Forfeiture in the US, after the seizure you can later go to court to challenge it. That's exactly what happened to Tinubu, they freezed 1.4 million dollars in his account with civic Judicial forfeiture because they linked it to drug. He was not even charged for any crime in the first place and he later went to challenge the forfeiture at the court but they settled out of court and Tinubu let them have 460,000$ out of the 1.4 million dollars because the law agency and Tinubu could not predict the outcome if they continue with the case. You think US government will let a guilty drug dealer get away with half of his funds? |
| Politics / Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Elemosho478: 11:17am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Workch: You are the olodo lol for criminal forfeiture to happened the defendant must be convicted. The case could not be settled out of court and some of the funds forfeited if he was charged for the crime in the first place. Tinubu was never charged for any crime, his account was freezed with a total sum of 1.4 million dollars as a civic Judicial Forfeiture case, but he challenged the forfeiture in court before he later decided to let them have half of the money. You think US government will let a guilty drug dealer get away with most of his seized money ? |
| Politics / Re: Does Forfeiting Your Assets In The US In A Civic Forfeiture Case Means Guilty ? by Elemosho478: 10:56am On Mar 22, 2023 |
YouandiAllofus: What is happening to most of the Obedients is that they have been brainwashed to believe the US justice system is so perfect and you can not lose anything to the US government unless you are guilty. Go and google civic Judicial Forfeiture in the US |
| Politics / Re: Does Forfeiting Your Assets In The US In A Civic Forfeiture Case Means Guilty ? by Elemosho478: 10:54am On Mar 22, 2023 |
FarahAideed: Most of you Obi supporters are really daft He was never charged for any crime in the first place and Plea Bargain can only happen after you have been confirmed guilty. Even if you enterred a Plea bargain in the US, you will still be sentence. When the Government has a strong case, the Government may offer the defendant a plea deal to avoid trial and perhaps reduce his exposure to a more lengthy sentence. A defendant may only plead guilty if they actually committed the crime and admits to doing so in open court before the judge. When the defendant admits to the crime, they agree they are guilty and they agree that they may be “sentenced” by the judge presiding over the court — the only person authorized to impose a sentence. Sometimes the Government will agree, as part of a plea agreement, not to recommend an enhanced sentence (such as additional time in prison for certain reasons) but it is left up to the judge to determine how the defendant will be punished. If a defendant pleads guilty, there is no trial, but the next step is to prepare for a sentencing hearing. https://www.justice.gov/usao/justice-101/pleabargaining#:~:text=When%20the%20Government%20has%20a,open%20court%20before%20the%20judge. A plea bargain won't save you from sentencing in the US, it will just save everyone time for standing for trial and move the process up to sentencing by the judge and perhaps reduce the punishment and sentencing. was Tinubu ever sentenced for any crime in the US by any judge ? what happened was out of court settlement and forfeiture of some funds. All the money in the accounts affected was 1.4 million dollar and he only lost 460,000$ you think the US Justice system will let someone guilty of drug dealing to get away with more than half of his money ? 2 Likes |
| Politics / Re: Does Forfeiting Your Assets In The US In A Civic Forfeiture Case Means Guilty ? by Elemosho478: 10:43am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Thanksful: There was no Plea Bargain lol 1 Like |
| Politics / Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Elemosho478: 10:34am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Workch: Read about civic forfeiture in the United States
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| Politics / Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Elemosho478: 10:33am On Mar 22, 2023 |
00FFT00: You guys are so ignorant lol goggle about civic forfeiture in the United States
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| Politics / Does Forfeiting Your Assets In The US In A Civic Forfeiture Case Means Guilty ? by Elemosho478: 10:04am On Mar 22, 2023 |
Presumed Guilty Civil asset forfeiture creates perverse incentives that can cost you your property. Did you know that inanimate objects could be found "guilty" in a court of law and ultimately become the property of the state? Just ask Mark Brewer, a disabled Air Force veteran who was pulled over in Nebraska in November 2011 after changing lanes without signaling on Interstate 80 – a traffic infraction that cost him more than $63,500. The deputy sheriff who pulled him over claimed he smelled marijuana and searched Brewer's car. He found no drugs, but did find two backpacks containing $63,530 in cash, which Brewer said he was taking to California with the intent of using it as a down payment on a home. The deputy seized the cash, claiming drug residue had been detected on the money. Brewer challenged the seizure in federal court to get his money back, but despite his lack of a criminal record and never being charged with a crime in the case, he lost his lengthy appeal in March 2015 – along with the money. Under civil asset forfeiture, law enforcement can seize private property in this fashion without a search warrant or an indictment, much less a conviction, based solely on the suspicion that the property has been involved in criminal activity. This is the very opposite of the notion of innocent till proven guilty, which is the basis of this country's justice system. Civil asset forfeiture was rightly designed as a tool to combat narcotics traffickers, money launderers and other criminal enterprises by seizing their ill-gotten gains. But because more than three-quarters of the states, along with the federal government, allow law enforcement to keep some or all of the proceeds from civil asset forfeiture, it has created a powerful financial incentive for vigorous pursuit of the practice, particularly in these times of tight budgets. Over time, civil forfeiture has spread far beyond drug kingpins to anyone tangentially related to law-breaking. To be clear, police departments and prosecutors' offices should be equipped and fully funded to face the challenges they face each day. Their ability to protect and serve our communities, however, should not be dependent on the arbitrary availability of outside funding but guaranteed through regular appropriations. In a June 2015 report, "Civil Asset Forfeiture: Grading the States," the FreedomWorks Foundation decried a disturbing disregard for due process in civil asset forfeiture cases in all but a handful of states. In a separate report, "Guilty Property," that was issued in the same month, the American Civil Liberties Union found that law enforcement in Pennsylvania takes in roughly $14 million in cash, cars and homes each year using civil asset forfeiture laws. And remember: That's just one state. At the federal level, some $2.5 billion in property and cash has been confiscated in 60,000 civil asset forfeiture seizures over the past 15 years. Worse, about 80 percent of the affected individuals were never charged with a federal crime. Some percentage of these cases were legitimate to the extent that the property and cash were genuinely connected to criminal activity, but even then, the forfeiture shouldn't occur until after conviction. As Brewer's case attests, civil asset forfeiture all too often ensnares innocent people in a costly and convoluted process of having to prove their property is "not guilty" of involvement in criminal activity. Those whose property has been unfairly forfeited typically have to spend a small fortune in lawyers' fees in an effort to get it back – and even then with no guarantee of success. When the cost of legal representation outweighs the value of the property confiscated, victims of civil asset forfeiture typically choose to abandon the property. As such, the need for civil asset forfeiture reform should be self-evident. In recognizing the perverse incentive civil asset forfeiture creates, there's now growing support for reform from law enforcement at both the state and federal level, and from politicians on both ends of the political spectrum. The U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee showed strong bipartisan support for a civil asset forfeiture reform bill they passed by voice vote this spring, and the bill is now being considered for part of the justice reform package that House Speaker Paul Ryan said he plans to bring to the House floor in September. Brewer's case was so heartrendingly egregious, in fact, that his example became a rallying cry for reform of Nebraska's civil asset forfeiture laws. In April, Gov. Pete Ricketts signed into law a bill that prohibits the state from taking property without a criminal conviction. Nebraska thus joined Montana and New Mexico among the states in the vanguard of righting this legal wrong. A year earlier, in the spring of 2015, those states enacted reforms similarly requiring a criminal conviction before the state or local governments can seize someone's property. More states – and the federal government – need to follow the lead of Nebraska, Montana and New Mexico in protecting property owners who haven't committed any crimes. https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-08-24/civil-asset-forfeiture-is-the-opposite-of-innocent-until-proven-guilty 1 Like |
| Politics / Atiku Abubakar Wins Bayelsa State Presidential Election by Elemosho478: 1:33am On Feb 28, 2023 |
BREAKDOWN OF RESULTS FOR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION FOR BAYELSA STATE: https://www.facebook.com/100044332811138/posts/pfbid0QEDS6Ms91tDHoqL1J42ErmjZcVcknHCydgJKFGT18REGfpt7LockfjQCm1e31hjtl/?app=fbl 15 Likes 3 Shares
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| Politics / Re: South South Taught Obi A Lesson He Will Never Forget by Elemosho478: 11:14pm On Feb 27, 2023 |
AmehTsaev: with all these bragging people would have thought Labour won with just Igbo votes alone. I'm sure Yoruba votes in the total votes Casted for LP was over 50%, keep running your mouth Yoruba in Lagos can easily take away their support in future elections once they learn the lesson, 2 Likes |
| Celebrities / Re: Mr. Macaroni Reacts To Peter Obi Defeating Bola Tinubu In Lagos; Gets Threatened by Elemosho478: 5:03pm On Feb 27, 2023 |
All the noise is just to get more views on your comedy videos. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Politics / Buhari Really Hurt Tinubu by Elemosho478: 12:39pm On Feb 27, 2023 |
Naira redesign is actually a very big damage to Tinubu and APC. Tinubu could have secured higher votes than he has gotten without that policy. He might even narrowly won Lagos if that policy didn't exist, Buhari you do this one. 1 Like |
| Politics / Re: PDP Wins All 3 Senate, 9 House Of Reps Seats In Osun by Elemosho478: 10:31am On Feb 27, 2023 |
APC lost Osun because Oyetola is very weak as a Politician, too gentle, boring and docile. Osun people want an actor, a generous giver, an entertainer, someone that won't stay lock up inside the government house. Adeleke won a lot of voters to his side by just going to the churches, events and dancing. They want a man that will also be ready to share no matter how small, someone that will be ready to tour the markets with people cheering. An entertaining Character even if it is just all fake, look at Adam Oshiomole in Edo state as example, Osun people like politicians like him. Adam Oshiomole can easily become Governor of Osun by just campaigning in the same manner he campained in Edo. Osun politics is easy, Aregbesola and Adeleke are entertainers. They are not boring like Oyetola 13 Likes |
| Politics / Re: Tinubu Is Too Old To Lead Nigeria, He Is Supposed To Be Resting - Iyabo Ojo by Elemosho478: 10:28am On Feb 27, 2023 |
So Atiku is not Old? 5 Likes |
| Politics / Re: Lets Analyse Tinubus Remaining Chance Of Winning... by Elemosho478: 8:29am On Feb 27, 2023 |
Tolue43: Atiku won Osun with just 15k votes |
| Politics / Re: Warning !!! Yoruba Youths Should Be Careful by Elemosho478: 1:42am On Feb 27, 2023 |
PrinceOfLagos: It is not because i'm scare or anything, I just don't want Yoruba people to be use for evil agenda that won't benefit us. Forget it when it really come down to it, Yoruba get strong head. In my city i know plenty rugged Yoruba guys in the street that are not scare of dealth and will be the first to charge for any confrontation. In fact when it really come down to it, I won't give a damn about death myself. |
| Politics / Re: Warning !!! Yoruba Youths Should Be Careful by Elemosho478: 1:26am On Feb 27, 2023 |
ScamHunter: if you want to start any protest, revolution or whatever grand name you guys will give it. Start it in your state and region and burn it to the ground first, don't call for it in Yoruba land and incite Yoruba to start it. Many Yoruba are stupid and insecure and ready to do anything to gain clouts and cheap validation. |
| Politics / Re: Warning !!! Yoruba Youths Should Be Careful by Elemosho478: 1:24am On Feb 27, 2023 |
Senator777: Many Yoruba youths are stupid with low IQ they almost helped foreigners to burned down Lagos during End Sars movement. Many can't reason for themselves or think independently, they just follow the band wagon like a herd for the purpose of clouts and attention or desperation for acceptance from somewhere. 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Politics / Re: Atiku Won Adamawa With A Landslide by Elemosho478: 11:52pm On Feb 26, 2023 |
NwekereNdokl: Atiku won Osun with just 11k votes A Local government in Ekiti canceled it. It won't matter much if Tinubu perform very well in the north. APC clearly got more than 25% in Adamawa 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Politics / Warning !!! Yoruba Youths Should Be Careful by Elemosho478: 11:19pm On Feb 26, 2023 |
Yoruba youth and Yoruba people should be careful. Nigeria Politics is going to get dirty moving forward. There are plans to Incite Yoruba and the people against the government through various Propaganda and brainwashing from unknown elements and deep state actors and use Yoruba as tool to achieve their goals. Many of them are already online calling for revolutions on Twitter etc and the propaganda and Brainwashing will increase in volume in the coming days. You guys should use your brain and stop gobbling up all shits and propaganda on the internet, starting any anarchy and chaos in Nigeria now won't make Nigeria as good as Europe overnight, you will be heading to the current situation of Somalia, Libya, Afghanistan and Palestine. A word is enough for the wise. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
| Politics / Re: Kaduna Govt Warns Residents Against Protests Over Presidential Results by Elemosho478: 11:08pm On Feb 26, 2023 |
GentleChief: You guys have started your propaganda again. You are just trying to Incite Yoruba against the government and use them for your devilish purpose like you did during End Sars. Why don't you start the revolution in your region and burn it down?. 3 Likes |
| Politics / Security Men Arrest Imo LP Agents by Elemosho478: 6:10pm On Feb 26, 2023 |
Security men on Sunday morning arrested three collation officers of the Labour Party in Isiala Mbano Local Government Area of Imo State. The three agents, Egbomuche Nwoke, Bartram Iwuala and another whose name is not yet known, were arrested at the Isiala Mbano LGA collation centre in Umuelemai during the collation of results on Sunday. The three LP agents were whisked away by police officers in vehicles, which included an Armoured Personnel Carrier. Our correspondent gathered that the three agents were dumped at the state command headquarters at the time of filing this report while the collation of results is still ongoing. The development has been viewed by many as a ploy to intimidate LP and rig the election in favour of the All Progressives Congress. Results so far collated showed that the candidate of the Labour Party in the federal constituency, Chikwem Onuoha, is leading. The Independent National Electoral Commission has done the final collation of results. https://punchng.com/security-men-arrest-imo-lp-agents cc Mynd44 Nlfpmod 2 Likes |
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