₦airaland Forum

sammsimm:
You are trying to shift the goalpost... I only have business with Obi. Obi doesn't have the credentials to rule this country

Ok sir.

Please tell us what credentials are required to rule the country please.

luckihy:
You think you are clever. You clearly side stepped the question and stated facts . Then you manufactured "a straw man" argument with a skrinkle of fake outrage.

You did not address the issue at all. By the way you stated that Trump won fair and square because "Americans are rooting for him" Are you implying that Democrats and Independents are not Americans.

Finally, No. I am not a Muslim. I am a Christian and I recognize bigotry and condescension when I see one.

“ First of all who are the "radicalists" and your other talking points terms. ?

For your information.In Dearborn, Michigan. Majority Arab city. Check the voting history of that area. They have history of voting Republicans”.

Those are your words. I responded to them completely and advised you not to embarrass yourself publicly if you do not have facts to support your assertions.

Rather than address the very obvious failure on your part, you tried to dribble your way out of it.
You totally failed to read my previous response meaningfully and with understanding, otherwise you’d have noted that your only question and concerns were all addressed.

“Are you implying that Democrats and Independents are not Americans…”? Is Donald Trump the President of Republicans only? Are you not aware that Trump won in Democratic leaning areas, e.g. Nevada? Is he not the President of the country, irrespective of the political affiliation? Even if he did not win in the Democratic party’s strongholds, is he not the President of the entire country? Is he not the leader of the country, irrespective of party, race, religion or color?!

When you mentioned Michigan as a Republican state, without knowing that the state currently has a Democratic Governor and Dearborn right there inside Michigan has a Democratic Mayor, where is the evidence that you are updated about the politics of the USA?

I have no doubt that you are a Muslim. Where is the bigotry and condescension please. Where is the bigotry, in the face of the present political realities of the country? Is that not the trademark of those who choose to destroy other countries from the inside, with the sole aim of dominance?

luckihy:
Here we go again with unfounded assumptions?

First of all who are the "radicalists" and your other talking points terms. ?

For your information.In Dearborn, Michigan. Majority Arab city. Check the voting history of that area. They have history of voting Republicans. As a matter of fact, a lot of them voted Trump. Thats was why Trump won Michigan. Also in Florida and Texas. A lot of "Latinos" voted Trump. Thats why Trump won Florida and Texas.

Please dont get carried away by propaganda and talking points.

“Unfounded assumptions”? How? When you jump into conversations as this, ensure that you have your facts ready, so that you do not embarrass yourself. Where’s the propaganda? Is it right to vote in a country where you are not a citizen? Is it? With the weeding out of illegal voters, have you not found evidence that it happened?

Is it not true that Muslims vote Democratic Party because they believe that the party is their route to political leadership and take over of the country? Is it not a fact that we see and hear everyday?

I perceive that you are a Muslim. I also clearly see that you do not even have an idea of the voting pattern there.

For your information, Dearborn was always a Democratic leaning state until Donald Trump overturned it at the last elections, winning the Presidential election.

Uncle, the Governor of Michigan is a member of the Democratic Party. Uncle, the Mayor of Dearborn, Abdullah Mammoud is a Muslim member of the Democratic Party. Uncle, with the political battle going on, the matter of ICE and Trump’s strong desire to stop the attempt at Islamizing the USA, Michigan may vote Democratic Party in the next Presidential election. Muslims work hard at increasing their population, so that through the ballot box they can control and dominate the political atmosphere.

Trump won the in Michigan fair and square because he had Americans rooting for him. The last Democratic President to win Texas was Jimmy Carter and the last Democratic President to win in Florida was Obama. They have all been Republican states.

The Latinos voted Trump because they were fed up with the Democratic Party. They were more convinced by Trump and his promises.

You must ask if it is morally right to vote in an election, knowing that you are not a citizen of that country. Since it is that law that you require a voter’s card to cast a vote in Nigeria, why then expose yourself by voting illegally in a country that’s not yours? If fake voters are weeded out, let’s see how those who choose to destroy another man’s country from the inside can proceed.

nairalanda1:
There are ilelgal voters, just not in the numbers trump and his followers think they are.

It's like some of you guys need to go back to school to learn some englisch. Haba.


(P.S..Also, nothing wrong with trump arresting them. Law na LAW.)

Chai.

English see hell for your hand brother. Na English you write so?

And you even found the courage to ask others to learn some “englisch”.

You could not even correctly spell the word!!

Na garage school you go?

How did I erroneously engage you in this conversation please? With your poorly written English, how are you able to discuss political matters concerning the USA with me please?

Kindly focus on Nigerian local government elections my bro.

sylfad:
The Democrats have people paid to actively encourage ineligible voters (especially Blacks) to register to vote across the nation.

Some of us have had several encounters with such people during election cycles. Some of us know international students who even voted during Hilary Clinton's 2016 bid

Notice how Islamic radicalists populate the Democratic Party? They make up a very huge percentage of the Democratic Party.

Notice how Latinos also populate the Democratic Party?

I believe that Trump’s efforts will sanitize the system to a very large extent.

nairalanda1:
One thing that trump supporters believe is that there are armies of illegal voters in the USA that the democrats are using to beat republicans.

And while that is an exageration, there are illegal voters, and trump is clamping down on them hard...

Woman don enter hard problem...next stop deportation

Why contradict yourself.

- trump supporters believe that there are armies of illegal voters

- while that is an exaggeration, there are illegal voters.

But you just found the evidence. Why beat about the bush?

sammsimm:
. Fine… Soludo has tackled the issue of insecurity(unknown gunmen) in the state, constructed over 500km high quality roads accross the state, youths empowerment etc

Oga, are you resident in Anambra state? If so, which town, village or community? Tell us some of the high quality roads constructed and areas connected. Tell us how he has tackled the issue of insecurity (unknown gunmen). Tell us exactly what you experience physically as someone from Anambra state and not what you copy and paste from social media pages.

And Keyamo consciously and callously overlooked the several endless lies told by BAT and APC that have made life horrible for Nigerians.

No shame at all.

By the way, are lawyers not called liars?

franchasng:
While Babatunde's mates are busy creating values, changing global markets and economy, he is busy lusting around and disgracing his kinsmen supporting evil leaders back in Nigeria, ire oh

And it was written “of no fixed address”. Can you imagine that?

So while in the UK, he was totally irresponsible.

sammsimm:
Good. If Soludo didn’t perform well in his first tenure, he would had been booted out… but instead Anambra people voted for him massively.

All the Governors who performed badly in the first term secured their second term. Is that in dispute? Why did Obi run the second term?

The question still remains. As an Anambra state indigene or resident, please tell us how Soludo has made Anambra better in his four years as the Governor.

sammsimm:
. I’m only here to discuss Obi. I hate when people paint him as the messiah

Agreed. The issue is Soludo and Obi. Since you as an Anambra man decided to talk about Obi, an Anambra man, please tell us the differences, as someone physically present at all times in Anambra state.

sammsimm:
Check your source very well sir Anambra state wasn't the best state in Nigeria during Obi's tenure. The same Obi who couldn't fix Anambra in 8yrs, he's now promising to fix Nigeria in 4yrs.

Ok, you as a man from Anambra state, who lives and works in Anambra state, please tell us how Soldu has improved Anambra state from 2014 when Ibi left power. Tell us what changes you have observed in the communities, security, roads, healthcare, education and agriculture, as evidence that he’s administration is making lives better in Anambra state.

sammsimm:
Check your source very well sir Anambra state wasn't the best state in Nigeria during Obi's tenure. The same Obi who couldn't fix Anambra in 8yrs, he's now promising to fix Nigeria in 4yrs.

Ok, as a man from Anambra state, who lives and works in Anambra state, please tell us how Soldu has improved Anambra state from 2014 when Ibi left power. Tell us what changes you have observed in the communities, security, roads, healthcare, education and agriculture, as evidence that he’s administration is making lives better in Anambra state.

adekolaelect:
But yours may be worst than his BCS you failed to bring evidence to against what he claimed . Why and how you people reason sometimes make person wonder if supporting a politicians makes one abandoned his sense ni.... So pathetic

Someone once said that the best way to keep secrets from a Blackman is to write in a book.

Again, it is said that one of the qualities of APC membership is to lack commonsense.

Looking at the handover report, which I know that you did not bother to read, you’d see “summary of the full financial statement of Anambra state (copies of which are herein attached)”. What does the word “summary” mean again please?

If not for lack of proper reasoning, you and your co-sojourners would have read and understood that the note was a pointer to the documents attached, which usually are voluminous. That paper summarizes all that the receiver should read.

Common sense should also have pointed to you and your co-sojourners that after serving the state for eight years, the corruption bodies did not find a single fault in the man to use as reason to either arrest or prosecute him.

Sadly, we live in a country where youths hand over their future to leaders who impoverish them. You all open your eyes, see the children of the looters enjoying your common patrimony abroad, you cry at night and beg them for food in the night and day time.

If commonsense permitted, you’d have known that the responsibility fell on Soludo to bring evidence of wrong doing against Obi. The same common sense should have told you that the report was Obi’s handover to Soludo, which is the standard requirement for all office holders at that level when they vacate office. The same commonsense should have made you demand to see Obiano’s handover note to Soludo, as the successor. The same common sense should have make you ask why Obiano was arrested when he tried to run away and Obi was never invited to account for his time as the Governor.

Truly you APC supporters, just as you remarked have proven that supporting politicians makes you abandon your sense.

Samtob90:
Obi threw up a challenge and his headless warriors started boasting, now that it has been verified to be lies and falsehood all along, they are now attacking Soludo for exposing his lies.
You see this people, they are very irrational more than the bandits.
Their politics have all been protect their own, destroy other ethnic nationality.

Where are the lies? Show us the evidence please.

ratcock:
Between Soludo and governor D7, i don’t know which one is more empty.

D7 does not pretend, letting everyone know his level. We have seen at least one bridge built by him. At least he does not hide his love and support for his father Tinubu.

Soludo only has Solution park, apart from the tiny Ekwulobia bridge and garage to show. Soludo hides and pretends. We are waiting to see how far he can go with roads. He uses his Professorship to conceal his comprehension.
We are waiting to see how Anambra state will become Dubai and Taiwan that be boasted.

They should tell him to stop using granite, dust granite and sand to fill roads in the name of building roads.

TimeManager:
The third class olodo is using a handover note which his cabinet members wrote by themselves to deceive himself and his gullible supporters. As if a mere hand over note override official documents, ledgers, invoices, bank statements and data from official sources. Mr Go and Verify has been exposed, let's wait and see if Mr Lamba will stop his fruitless campaign.

#NoVacancyInAsoRock

-Kiss the truth!

Go school una no fit. People like you scored only passes in the university, if you attended at all.

When Buhari left, it was a handover note to Tinubu.
Tinubu will do the same when he hands over power to Peter Obi.
Ambode to Sanwo Olu was the same.
Sanwo Olu will do the same when he leave.

It is the standard process when administrators change. Una no fit know. APC supporters have so suffered hunger that there is no ability for critical thinking anymore.

Cyberterror:
Peter Obi is like 7mm rod advertised as 16mm. If you use it for the foundation and pillars of your house, just know that the house will collapse in no distant time

Stop disgracing yasef.

Standard quality 7mm road compiled to build is more trusted and reliable than poor quality 16mm road that would collapse even while building.

BAT is like that poor quality 16mm rod. A clear example. Nigerians are in deeper hardship and poverty induced by him, the first day he got into the office.

Sheuns:
A simple example is China to Nigeria cargo shipping. Nigerians originally started it back then and many of the shipping companies from China to Lagos were Nigerian owned businesses. The Chinese came into it and have wiped out almost all the Nigerian shipping companies. The Chinese have big financial war chests that no single business in Nigeria can compete with.

Let them keep supporting nonsense till Chinese control every nerve of the economy.

Nigeria does not have a single big shipping organization to talk about. Our National shipping line died long ago with the activities of the politicians, just as the airline.

The Chinese have OOCL, COSCO, etc, all operating in Nigeria with heavy shipping of containers. Nigerians just manage as shipping and clearing agents around the seaports and airports, making small money at the bottom of the shipping value chain.

Many Chinese manufacturers and trading companies are easily able to bypass our agents. They load directly at their factories, send to the shipping ports, with export and clearing charges all already paid for right from China, making the cost of goods in the local market marginally cheaper.

Nigerians think that it is the fault of Igbo importers that substandard products are imported into the country. It is definitely not solely the fault of importers. What about the regulatory agencies in Nigeria? Agents take bribes at the ports and look the other way. If government agents sit up, the incidences of fake products will be effectively checkmated. The Chinese deliberately manufacture substandard goods and give buyers the option of purchasing whichever they prefer. Meet manufacturers in other Asian countries, who purchase raw materials from China and hear them complain of fake materials from China. Infact those who prefer quality products would rather buy from Singaporean, Malaysian, Indian and Vietnamese manufacturers. They are usually costlier, but of very standard quality.

The late Dora Akunyili carried the battle of fake drugs to India and China, ensuring compliance and producing standard drugs before shipping to Nigeria.

Once again, it is the business of our government to protect Nigerian small businesses and industries. The Chinese are here to make the money and return to their country. Even Donald Trump is trying to put an end to foreigners working in the USA and sending large percentages of their income back to their country, rather than use it to contribute to the growth and prosperity of the country where they make the money.

Kukutente23:
You mean you've not heard that it's Tinubu that gave Dangote the idea to build the refinery and also provided land for him in Lekki
You've been far from zombies

Person wey dem no know how far e take get money, dey advise person wey get generational wealth from his forefathers? Person wey dem still dey reason hard drugs for im matter dey advise person to start refinery? That refinery no good for am to start too, since na good business? Na people like una Fela take sing zombie o zombie.

Okoroawusa:
A handover note? Is that all he has to show to counter the Anambra State Government? I expected a detailed breakdown of the state's accounts not a handover note on the last day of his tenure that could have been drafted by a secretary of an outgoing commissioner. So because you said that there are XYZ amounts in the bank I should just believe you even when I take over as a governor and discover that it's not the case?

Peter Obi should do better than a handover note. Obiano and Soludo cannot be wrong and only you are right.

What you know nothing about, simply ask questions and do not wallow in ignorance.

When Buhari left, he gave his handover note to Tinubu. It is a standard rule in government. All APC governors, local government leaders, serving or left office must leave handover notes. Don’t let your support for APC continue to offend your sensibilities in this manner. So you expect all the files of the ministries and parastatals to be carried in trucks to handover to the incoming Governor or President? Uncle, it is not done that way. Handover notes are the standard procedure in governments when administrations are changed worldwide.

Handover notes serve to ensure smooth transition of power by providing their successors with vital information on state assets, liabilities, and ongoing projects. They give the incoming administration a clear starting point, preventing a stall in public services and policy implementation. They detail the state's financial standing, including debts, cash balances, revenue profiles, and pending contractual obligations. They document public property, infrastructure status, ongoing projects, and institutional files. Handover notes serve as official records that hold the outgoing administration responsible for its stewardship of public office.

What you saw in that paper was a brief summarization of the details needed by the incoming Obianor as the Governor. It was not disputed, ever by Obianor, talk less of Soludo, who became the governor eight years after Peter Obi. Ask Soludo to present Obiano’s handover note and let’s compare with the one Obianor got from Peter Obi.

Obianor confirmed that Mr. Peter Obi did not owe anyone publicly at several fora. Soludo confirmed it too openly. You know nothing about that. It is public knowledge that Soludo confirmed that Obi was not owing and he (Soludo) would not take out any loan.

By the way, by now some of you should bow your faces in shame. Did you ever hear that EFCC or ICPC invited or arrested Peter Obi to account for his administration? Obianor attempted to escape to America. He did not wait for his last day, but he was caught. Government magic is the only reason why he is not in jail now.

When Soludo was heavily defeated by Peter Obi in the last Presidential, he went berserk. Soludo’s political Golgotha is Peter Obi. Each time he tries to demarket Peter Obi, the citizens rise up against him. He is the governor today simply because of sentiments and not by popularity.

No governor in this history of Anambra state has performed like Peter Obi. Soludo who promised to make Anambra state Dubai, so far has not made the state up to the Republic of Benin.

HisaacPlus:
Take this nonsense to your autonomous Arochukwu community and not in Lagos

And remember to take your own nonsense to your Mamu village in Osun state where to truly belong. Stop claiming Lagos. Lying is not good for your well-being.

TEYA:
He did not sell at any damn factory price. Who goes to China, buys stuff and sell at factory price. Go and bleeping compete. Compete or perich! That is the rule of the market place.

Can you imagine? So truly you have not completed your secondary school education. Where did you get that word “perich” from please?

Starcrest1:
So a so called professor doesn't proof read his supposed government document before publishing, that's shameful then.

It's a shame on Anambra for having an olodo professor as a governor. Monday okpebholo can do better.

Soludo promised to turn Anambra state to Dubai. Four years on and the state has not reached the level of Cotonou.

The man left his calling to embarrass himself in politics.

BATified2023:
the most annoying thing about those obidient is that they know the truth but they are hellbent on pushing the false narrative.

It's like u are seeing white but someone is telling u with all his might that it is black, a whole professor n present governor of a state released state records with time stamp n they want us to believe it's a lie

The most annoying thing about BATists is that they always live in self delusion.

A simple reasoning would have made you wonder which of the governors of the federation could have borrowed 123 billion either in naira or dollar in 2013 given then the exchange rate was 185 to the dollar that year. Even Lagos and Kano could not do that, talk less of Anambra state with far lesser revenue.

Oya, show us the papers. You all suddenly left the university matter. We have not diverted our attention from the court matter in America.

Should they not buy? Are they not Nigerians, investing their resources in their country? Are APC members not purchasing? Even you, have you not bought?

By the way, should they announce to you that they bought shares? Is it a rule that once you purchase, you should use a megaphone to announce it to the world? Is it not the person’s private matter. Sense una no dey gree get.

Was Dangote’s refinery Tinubu’s idea? Why not tell us that Tinubu himself bought some secretly, as if any law prohibits the President of the country from investing in the refinery.

Sleekfingers:
At least I am more sensible than your father.

Some of the factors I mentioned also contributed to the killing of the textile industries.

Now similar thing is happening, but lots of people are not talking about. The Adire production , most of these people are now are importing Adire from China in large quality. Killing the Adire business.....they will go to China with various samples and mass-produced it.

Go to Adire market or production centre of Adire in Ogun state . And hear what the people are saying.

Where is the sense?

You had the sense and I had to tell you that IBB killed the cotton industry? You had the sense and forgot that adire is native to Yoruba people, making Yoruba people importers of adire? The sense na how to drink shepe,

BATified2023:
same way u are a stranger in Lagos is the same way Chinese traders are strangers, tenant can't evict tenants.

U either compete with Chinese or go back to your village

Where were you when strangers started building houses and renting out former landlords, turning the same former landlords to tenants?

FSBoperator:
Excuse full ground

There is still manufacturing going on in the SW (Ogun and Oyo) and in Kano and Kaduna.

Stop giving useless whinny excuses why you are failing at everything.

Dangote is into manufacturing locally and that is how he made his money .

Note that Dangote was into importing early in his business career alongside Peter Obi.

Today Dangote is a billionaire industrialist that is a major exporter while your Giringori is still importing and trading.

Just mention one company associated with Tinubu. Dangote is a manufacturer. Obi is a trader. Tinubu is a ..?

Comot shame and answer that simple question.

Na pain e dey pain you!

Kalulu44:
I know you're very happy with the situation and not trying to reason my point of view.
If Chinese like let them sell shoes at #100 that's fine by me, it favours me too.
But what of the people they have made come to import it from their country.
What of the people that transport it from Ogun state to that trade fair, how much should they sell theirs.
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If the Chinese knows they now want to starts selling at our retail markets. They should stop distributors and wholesalers from coming to buy from their factories.
And then start selling direct to consumers. Is that too hard for you to understand. Or you just love to be happy over anything that affects the region you love to hate.
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See let me tell you an honest truth.
I have lived 90% of my 40+ yrs in Lagos.
And I have 60% of Yoruba friends/colleagues and 40% of other tribes which includes my tribes the Igbos.
I can tell you without mincing words that 50-60% of Yorubas I have interact with have always praised the Igbos for uplifting them in their businesses or patronage to their various artisan jobs.
I don't like boasting about it, but people like you tends to make someone talk about it.
If you come across me face to face, the first tribe you will guess I came from is Yoruba or Hausa. Igbo will be the last you will think of. That's to tell you I hardly let anyone know I am an Igbo guy.
And I hate tribalism.
Everyone is equal to me.
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In an earlier thread, they were bashing a woman who was producing pure water in a dilapidated and dirty environment. I stood for her not knowing the tribe she might be. A commenter bashed me that, why won't I support her since she's my tribe person, that if it was in Aba that was done that my people would have been talking rubbish.
Apparently he thought I was a Yoruba person, not knowing I am an Easterner like him. And I gave him a piece of my mind on how tribalistic he's and it's people like him that's making other region see us finish by us always claiming been victimization.
So BATified2023 my supporting those traders is not bcus majority are my tribesmen. But just the right thing to do

The problem with APC supporters is that they are wired to think wrongly.

They have been so bewitched that they do not know their left from their right. Tribalism and jealousy are their tools of trade.

They think that their problem is the Igbo man.

Have you ever considered that the Igbo man is the backbone of the economy? Aside from Dangote who supplies the petrol, is there any aspect of life that the Ibo man’s trade does no support? Think about it. The house appliances, the phones, laptops, the building materials, car parts, drugs, etc, just mention. That makes them bitter, envious and jealous.

Government has the business of introducing policies that protect trade for Nigerians.

FSBoperator:
Frustration don start.

Lmfao!

E pain you pali pali.
Make sure say you no bear transformer. No look up near fan o. No waka for front of motor. We no get medicine for those ones o. Na ofone journey you go enter be that o.