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Travel / Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 4:17pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
proudly9ja: Yes she is begging. She is begging to be allowed to live and work in a country where she does not have the right to. Why should she be allowed to work when there are plenty of British citizens looking for work themselves? One has to have rights to work and earn in this country and she doesn't so she should go back to Nigeria and work there. |
Travel / Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 1:11pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
adconline: Explain please? |
Travel / Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 1:02pm On Mar 08, 2010 |
proudly9ja: Her story is sad. But it isn't Britain's responsibilty to look after her, her four children and her ageing mother. And why she be given a job when there are citizens who would also like to work? Nigeria needs to start taking responsibilty of its own. |
Travel / Re: The Dispossessed: Mother Living In Limbo With No Job, No Benefits And No Cash by EloSela(f): 7:40am On Mar 08, 2010 |
I think she would be better of in Nigeria. Besides it isn't Britain's responsibility to take care of her. I am still trying to understand why she brought her mother over here when her situation wasn't ideal. |
Travel / Re: The Dispossessed: Mother Living In Limbo With No Job, No Benefits And No Cash by EloSela(f): 7:25pm On Mar 07, 2010 |
Really, this lady should go back home to Nigeria instead of suffering in the UK. I don't understand why she didn't present herself to the immigration officers to ask for assistance back to Nigeria. |
Politics / Re: The Giant Of Africa, No Light, Water, Good Road, And Infrastruture Of Anykind by EloSela(f): 5:52pm On Mar 06, 2010 |
ROSSIKE:. @Rossike I doubt you have been to Uganda. I have and I was well impressed. I visited a rural village called Gulu in the Northern region of the country. A village which had banks, atms, petrol stations, a cinema and a stadium. We also travelled from that village in the dead of the night to Kampala without fear of being attacked by armed robbers' we actually did that journey two times. This I repeat was a village. Can you advice of what village I can find the same amenities in Nigeria? In Kampala we also travelled around the city in the dead of the night to bars and other night venues without fear of being attacked. I was able to go into some of the top hotels in the city to dine without having to pay with an arm or a leg. I slept in a tent on Safari again without fear, again please tell me where I can do the same in Nigeria. Uganda as a whole is a peaceful country and the people on a whole don't like trouble and for the most part are honest. For example I left change with a taxi driver and asked him to come back. I didn't expect to see him again and so I was well surprised when he turned up bright and early the next morning with my money. The services work such as electricity (they have a electricity problem but it is not as bad as Nigeria with the light going off for about two or so hours a day but one hardly notices) water, gas, internet etc. I have been to plenty of countries in Africa including Nigeria, Gambia and Senegal and I am sorry to say Nigeria has nothing, absolutely nothing on those countries in terms of development, social welfare and infrastructure. All Nigeria has is a high population of people. |
Travel / Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 3:56pm On Mar 06, 2010 |
I think she should go back to Nigeria. It is not Britain's responsibility to house and feed her or give her a job for that matter. Going by the some of the stories I have read here on NL, Nigeria is up and coming and people can make it there if they are willing to work hard. This lady should go back to her own country and work hard instead of depending on the British tax payer to fund her and her family. 1 Like |
Travel / Re: Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 5:46pm On Mar 05, 2010 |
I just thought to post the article above to provide information for all pending travellers to the UK who may have desires to stay on after their visas have expired. It isn't easy. 1 Like |
Travel / Poverty_in Britain! Nigerian_single_mother_of_4 by EloSela(f): 5:40pm On Mar 05, 2010 |
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23811988-the-dispossessed-mother-living-in-limbo-with-no-job-no-benefits-and-no-cash.do The Dispossessed: Mother living in limbo with no job, no benefits and no cash 2 Likes 1 Share |
Politics / Re: Dora Akunyili Tells All! by EloSela(f): 2:37pm On Mar 01, 2010 |
I wasn't aware that Dora was an American citizen. Wasn't there a story a few months ago of her being denied entry into America Anyway I commend the lady for trying to do her job. She does seem to have the best interests of Nigeria at heart. |
Travel / Re: South Africa World Cup 'snubbed By Foreign Fans' by EloSela(f): 9:14am On Jan 31, 2010 |
I've been to South Africa before. Cape Town to be exact and it is hardly an 'African' city. I laugh when Black South Africans use that city to exemplify South Africa. Go to the townships, Llanga and Kyalistha (sp) and see the real Africa, not Greenpoint, Seapoint or Haut's Bay, the 'white townships'. I digress I will be in Jo'burg for the world cup and I have been warned about the dangers of the city and one point I almost cancelled my ticket but as a self-confessed 'tavelcholic' I just have to see Johannesburg. . I heard some horror stories, one that comes to mind was from a friend who was sitting in a restaurant and heard gun shots. On hearing those shots there was a mad scramble for cover and after the melee had calmed down it was discovered that the person sitting on the next table had died from a clean shot to the head. Scary! |
Celebrities / Re: P Diddy's $360,000 Gift to his son by EloSela(f): 12:07am On Jan 28, 2010 |
Meanwhile a mere 7 year old boy raises nearly $250,000 (£160,000) for children in Haiti. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/01/25/charlie-simpson-7-raises-160k-for-haiti-appeal-in-one-day-115875-21992609/ It's Diddy's money but I personally think the gift is distasteful. |
Culture / Re: Not Born In Nigeria = Not Nigerian? by EloSela(f): 12:42pm On Jan 19, 2010 |
tpia.: So you think there are no Nigerians that settled in the UK more than 50 years ago? Furthermore not all white South Africans settled there centuries ago. There are plenty of White South Africans today not to mention Indians, Malaysians and Chinese, in their 20s and 30s who are second generation. And why are you posting an article about France? What has that got to do with British Citizenship? @Morpheus24 Don't be naive. everyone cares who setttled where and when.White south africans are Africans of Germanic, dutch, french and english descent. No body is chasing them out of Africa but please note the difference btw nationality and ethnicity. That is fact. 'Everyone' meaning you and other close minded individuals such as yourself. You have some nerve asking me to note the difference between nationality when you and others have repeatedly tried to rebuke me for recognising my nationality (British) and ethnicity (Urhobo) and not a foreign nationality (Nigeria). Maybe you need to take your own advice. You are simply proving my point as well by showing the queens germanic history though this does not invalidate my previous stated pint concering you and the queen as far as ancestry is concerned. You initially implied that the Queen's roots were in Britain and I suggested otherwise in order to prove to you, that British people descend from all parts of the world, even the Royal family who most see as the epitome of 'Englishness' or 'British ness'. I see you also conveniently forgot to mention that the Queen’s African ancestors the most notable being Queen Charlotte. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/global/article6334692.ece. You see not all of the Queen’s ancestors were from Mainland Europe. In fact she even has Nigerian or British relatives of Nigerian descent., one of which is even 47th in line to inherit the British Crown. Joy Elias-Rilwan, also known as The Hon. Mrs. Lascelles (Born in Nigeria) is married James Lascelles, whose father is the Queen’s first cousin and they have a son; and is this son who is line to inherit the throne. Your idea that because someone can not to trace their ancestors back as far as another individual in particular country, it then means that they have fewer rights to a citizenship claim is extremely flawed not to mention retarded. It is sad but it is only Nigerians who tend to think like this. You have whites and Asians alike claiming citizenship of African countries such as Uganda, Botswana, Kenya and South Africa where they were born and raised but none of you bigots would ever dare step to them and suggest otherwise. Even the White people of Zimbabwe where Mugabe has made life difficult for them still proudly proclaim their African nationality. It is only when you see a fellow black proudly proclaiming the citizenship of their birth country that just so happens to be a mostly white nation that you have the nerve to start talking smack! You would rather people like me claim the nationality of their parent’s land they hardly know rather than the country they were born, raised and know through and through. You only need to get on a plane from Nigeria with a foreign passport to confirm this. I thought you said that it was all over the world? So now it is when they travel from Nigeria?? So you are saying that it is Nigerians (possibly like yourself) probably expressing their jealousy of other black people with passports other than Nigerian that are doing the harassing? I suggest you apply common sense before responding. Your ideals are highly racist and bigoted and on the same level of the BNP whose claptrap BS you have the audacity to bring up in this conversation. |
Culture / Re: Not Born In Nigeria = Not Nigerian? by EloSela(f): 5:43pm On Jan 18, 2010 |
A white south african can argue his indigenous history to That part of Africa say against a nigerian or a senegalese, however he cannot do the same when refering to the continent of "Africa" as a whole. They will try to argue that they are not the last settlers in SA and found the place uninhabited when they arrived, however history and culture proves otherwise. Again can you tell a white South African to go back to his country of origin? No you can't. Who cares who settled where and when? The fact remains that they have been in South Africa for generations and that is their land and they are not looking to leave anytime soon. Nobody can tell them that they are not genuine Africans just like you or anyone else can not tell me I am not a genuine Brit. There is nothing wrong with being A british national of Urohobo descent, however you cannot argue with the queen when she can trace her descent much further back than you can. Well actually the Queen is of German descent and her husband who was born and bred in Greece first language is German. The House of Windsor was previously known as the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, a German family up until 1917. You try telling them that they are not English to the bone. In fact the only people who have pure English blood in the Royal family are Prince William and Harry through their mother Princess Diana. You see how silly your argument is now? As far as living in the past, tell that to Nigerians with other countries passports who are being stopped left and right at airports Where are these 'Nigerians' or are you making it up? |
Culture / Re: Not Born In Nigeria = Not Nigerian? by EloSela(f): 4:52pm On Jan 18, 2010 |
Thats what the jews of europe used to think befoe one swoop of legislation invalidated their birthrights. You are living in the past. like I said before a british national is different from a british person by descent.You are living in the past. Your opinion but how do you feel about white South Africans? They also claim to be indigenous to Africa and will not let anyone tell them otherwise. In fact they would consider it offensive. . .would you dare to tell them that they are not like you do the Black Brits? |
Culture / Re: Not Born In Nigeria = Not Nigerian? by EloSela(f): 11:25am On Jan 18, 2010 |
@OW11 Exactly, my sister's children were and raised in Lagos. These kids speak fluent Yoruba and even have Yoruba names bestowed on them by the Yoruba church that they attend. Even though both of their parents are Urhobos they hardly know anything about that part of their culture. In fact their father, an Urhobo was born and raised in Lagos and when you hear him speaking Yoruba you would be forgiven for thinking that his origins were Yoruba. In fact I don't think I can see that family ever going back 'home' to the Delta, just like I can never see myself settling in Nigeria . . .or calling it 'Home' for that matter because as much as I respect the country as the birth land of my parents and admire the various positive qualities of its people, its delicious foods and rich cultures etc it is not my land. |
Culture / Re: Not Born In Nigeria = Not Nigerian? by EloSela(f): 7:08am On Jan 18, 2010 |
Olabukola. What nerve? Honestly speaking I have never been asked that question, I only spoke on it because you brought it up and deem it relevant enough to bring it up in such discussions. Maybe your nerves are frayed, maybe you are constantly asked that question because of your non-British accent. In any case I find it hilarious, you a Nigerian born and bred in Nigeria trying to compare your experience in the UK to someone that was born and bred in the UK. You need to keep mute and only offer opinions on matters that are internal to Nigeria. . . .or your village. And yes Internal deportation is a big issue in Nigeria. |
Culture / Re: Not Born In Nigeria = Not Nigerian? by EloSela(f): 10:18pm On Jan 17, 2010 |
olabukola: You worry too much about what the oyibo man thinks and says. In any case only ignorant white people will ask you that and in most cases it is when the person who they are speaking to clearly has a non British accent. If I came across a person with an accent that was claiming to be British I would also want to know more about that person's cultural background to determine where the accent came from. FACT: If you were born in the UK before 1982 or were born after 1982 and spent the first ten years of your life there then you cannot be deported. You are British to the bone no matter what anyone says. Calling someone a 'fake brit' because of their colour is racist. FACT! A Nigerian can be deported from one part of Nigeria to another. i.e. A Nigerian originally descended from the Eastern part of Nigeria but who has spent most of their life in Lagos can be deported back to the father's land in another part of Nigeria. That is BS and needs to stop. My father was born in a mud hut in a small village in the Delta region of Nigeria. Should I and my descendants forever claim that mud hut in the village as our own and disregard all my life experiences of being born and raised in a different land , Please? Say I want to live in Nigeria, the land of my father but choose to live in Abuja, whose to say that I won't be deported from there to the village my father was born? http://allafrica.com/stories/200910090721.html
The whole business of claiming one's father's land as your very own and disregarding the culture and country or city you were born and grew up in is silly and not to mention retarded that is why Nigerians born and raised in Nigeria will laugh at you because they feed on your insecurities. Yes by all means recognise and embrace your family background, ethnicity and culture ( I do - Urhobo for life ) but don't go the extra mile trying to be what you are not. An Igbo or Urhobo girl born and raised in the UK or US is dramatically different culturally from one born and raised in Nigeria whether you like to admit it or not. Your father has his land and you have yours and God bless the child that has his own. |
Culture / Re: Not Born In Nigeria = Not Nigerian? by EloSela(f): 12:32pm On Jan 17, 2010 |
ChinenyeN: Exactly and Nigerians have the nerve to look as us in the diaspora and call us 'Second class' citizens. This is the reason why I personally think it is stupid to try and claim one's father's land as you own when you have not lived his life or shared his life experiences. In short why should I try to fit in when I don't? I would rather find others like me, born and bought up in the UK to African, Nigerian, Urhobo or other foreign parents to identify with as I would probably have more in common with them than someone born and bred in Nigeria . Had Obama being born in Nigeria to Kenyan parents he would never have been allowed to contest for leadership in the country of his birth. I know plenty of Non-Yoruba families who have been in Lagos for generations, operated businesses, paid taxes and contributed to society in the state but their descendants would never ever be able claim state benefits of scholarships that are set aside for 'indigenous' residents of the state. The story is the same throughout Nigeria. Some can even be deported from a Nigerian state to their Nigerian state of origin. Imagine that BS going down in the US or the UK? |
Culture / Re: Not Born In Nigeria = Not Nigerian? by EloSela(f): 12:09pm On Jan 17, 2010 |
As someone born and bred in Britain, I identify fully as a Briton of Urhobo ethnicity. Nigeria is too diverse (250+ ethnic groups with their own unique languages, style of dress and food) to start claiming it patriotically and nationally when I was neither born or grew up there. |
Politics / Re: Nigerian Terrorist: What You Won't Hear In The Media by EloSela(f): 2:29am On Dec 28, 2009 |
@ duabba Where does it state he was 'radicalised' in Britain? He was only there for a few years for his degree before moving to Dubai and then Yemen. After graduating in 2008, he told his family he wanted to continue learning, by moving to an Arab country to study Arabic. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8431530.stm |
Politics / Re: Nigerian For Deportation After Winning Gold For Britain by EloSela(f): 7:03pm On Dec 20, 2009 |
George_D: How was he used? Do you think he competed for free? He was fully funded by the UK Sports council during his competing years which means all his living expenses were taken care of. Also in the article it doesn't make any mention of a job and so I am led to believe that he was probably surviving on benefits (disability and income benefit which could amount to up to £150 a week not including housing benefit and council tax which he probably also claimed for) and receiving free NHS care for his health issues. So who was using who? Who got the best end of the deal out of it all? |
Travel / Re: Where Will U Like To Be 4 Xmas - Snowy London Or America East Cost Or Hot Naija? by EloSela(f): 3:03pm On Dec 20, 2009 |
I will be spending Christmas with the family in London and then for New Year I will be off to Kampala, Uganda to enjoy the warm weather with friends. I have heard those Ugandans love to party non-stop. My last day at work is Christmas Eve and then I am not due back until the 11th of Jan 2010. Life is good! |
Politics / Re: Nigerian For Deportation After Winning Gold For Britain by EloSela(f): 12:39am On Dec 20, 2009 |
George_D: You're pushing the boat out a bit aren't you? So everyone in Britain smokes pot and lays about all day? Were all the Gold medals that Britain won in international games by foreigners and not by British citizens who were fully funded by the UK Sports Council? Are you saying that the only chance we have of winning a gold medal is by recruiting foreigners like Onwubiko or are you just talking purely out of ignorance and frustration? I will let you answer that before I start quoting unemployment levels in Nigeria and the UK, what works in the UK and what doesn't in Nigeria due to the lack of manpower despite having more than double the population Britain has and also funding levels for sporting stars in Nigeria compared to the UK so we can determine which country truly has the most layabouts. |
Travel / Re: World Mosts: by EloSela(f): 6:45pm On Dec 19, 2009 |
Interesting thread, thanks for sharing. It would even more interesting though if you could tell us where in the world these fabulous places and things are located. |
Politics / Re: Request For The Creation Of An Urhobo State by EloSela(f): 10:10pm On Dec 18, 2009 |
I fully support this idea for an Urhobo state. I love my people, the Urhobos but I am not so keen on the 'Nigeria' concept as I believe Nigeria is a failed state. |
Politics / Re: Nigerian For Deportation After Winning Gold For Britain by EloSela(f): 10:04pm On Dec 18, 2009 |
debosky: No |
Politics / Re: Nigerian For Deportation After Winning Gold For Britain by EloSela(f): 10:02pm On Dec 18, 2009 |
debosky: You forgot the key one. He won 5, not 1 oh or even 2, [size=16pt]5 GOLD [/size]medals for the UK!!! It is these same Gold medals that contributed to the UK economy, paved all the roads in London, provided electricity in the Lewisham area of London, paid more taxes than anyone in the last last year, bailed out the Royal Bank of Scotland and Northern Rock, fed and watered the homeless etc. etc. In short, Britain benefited a great deal from those Gold medals and it is an absolute travesty, absolute disgrace that Onwubiko is now being sent back to Nigeria with nothing but the Gold medals which he graciously won out of the goodness of his heart for the benefit of all and sundry in Britain including Her Majesty, The Queen. Tragic I tell ya, just tragic! |
Politics / Re: Nigerian For Deportation After Winning Gold For Britain by EloSela(f): 9:49pm On Dec 18, 2009 |
~Sauron~: |
Politics / Re: Nigerian For Deportation After Winning Gold For Britain by EloSela(f): 9:49pm On Dec 18, 2009 |
George_D: The only people allowed to stay in the UK after breaking the law are citizens. This man isn't a citizen, he is a guest in our country and so should leave as he has shown blatant disregard for our law. If I go to Nigeria, US or any other country and show disrespect for their laws, I will be asked to leave to. It is that simple. Britain has enough of its own criminals to deal with as it is and there is no reason why they should continue to fund this man and his law breaking ways. |
Celebrities / Re: Breaking News: Actress Caroline Johnson Is Dead! by EloSela(f): 9:41pm On Dec 18, 2009 |
She was such a beautiful lady! May she rest in peace and I pray that God comforts the loved ones she left behind. |
Politics / Re: Nigerian For Deportation After Winning Gold For Britain by EloSela(f): 5:24pm On Dec 18, 2009 |
He broke the rules so he has to go. |
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