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na2day?:Only that the Arabs are more or less influence by politics and religion. Only that they have problem with what is perceived as western ideas etc and not problem with US tax office. No? |
eldee:Again, it sucks that you cannot read an absorb. Refer back to my original post on the issue. My focus is on the aspect of rapper that was touted as one of the best, my comparison was more on production side of things. Again read and absorbs. It helps a lot. You said a certain rapper is a wannabe gangsta . . . I'm saying half the rappers in America are wannabe thugs too.See above. Nigeria Hiphop is inferior to that of the US, any one with half a brain knows that. It is clear, be it production-wise, lyrically speaking etc. American hip hop is superior. Period. Bringing Youtube B.S does little to support your case.When corned you get dismissive again isn't! Man, how do you do it? In a debate, evidences are brought in to support and present a case. I suppose that concept is very alien to you. So far, you are yet to show anything to back up your drivel really. Again, refer back to my point of how you need to have the ear to appreciate it. It is not a surprise you come across as another average listener. Quite rightly so too. ![]() To the average listener, it's quite difficult to tell that both Jay-Z's On To The Next One and Cassidy's Hotel were produced by one person.To your types perhaps it doesn't. Go and work in a studio and let the sound engineer or producer sell the same beat with same sound but different arrangement to you and another artist. Let us see how far before that is noted. No? Suddenly, it start to make sense as to how unique sound can be an advantage. As for quality, how do you think the 808 kick came about? Just in case you are too average to know what an 808 kick is, it is a type of kick developed by Roland in the 80s. I do not need to tell you how it added to the quality of sound we listen to these days. You claim having unique sound do not affect hiphop. Yet the following are different and unique due to their unique styles and sound of hiphop - West coast, New Jack swing [popular in the 90s], East coast, Dirty South etc. Funny how these sounds have contributed to hip hop. But you wouldn't know. You sir an average who is too ignorant too know. ![]() Talk about dismissive tactics!!!The irony. Again, you need to see the bigger picture to understand. But since you have your mind made up, remember I have an ear for it. Why bother asking again? I'm saying, relatively, Kanye and Timbaland have the distinct sounds, but you overemphasize it.No. Go back and read your own post. You word usage was poor, at least be man enough to admit that. Kanye and Timba have different styles. It is your prerogative, your problem and not mine if you fail to tell them apart. Stop playing dumb with me . . . when say insular in the music section in a discussion about beats, even an idiot knows I'm not talking about collaborating with Coldplay.You really are a borderline slowpoke. You used the wrong word then proceed to be dismissive when corrected. Your usage of insular in the context in which it was used was wrong. No? Jesus flipping Christ, if your word usage is wrong and you can't even get it right, why should I bother to have a debate with you? Remember you are just another average head around here. As I said before, being an artist is different from being a producer.The above sounds more like an opinion to me and not a statement of fact. But then, you are an average listener [again] who may not be able to tell. Over all, you can always tell the work of certain producers - especially those with unique sound over those who aint. How hard is it to understand that? ![]() . I'm sure most lovers of good music care more about how good a beat is and not how similar it should be to the previous track.Are you even trying to move the goal post? Non-shocker. A good beat is a good beat . . . your 'unique sound' theory is completely laughableWhat a load of drivel. Dre beat is unique and his beats are good [In fact, excellent]. You see, there goes your silly claim. I know you'll come with another set of Youtube videos . . . but I know you know the exact truth.Providing proof is an alien concept to you. Get use to it, I am not one of your average you see. What exact truth? That you have dodged the point, use wrong words, post loads of drivel over what? That Nigeria hiphop is inferior to the US, or at best poorly executed? Or is it the fact that no Nigeria producer is yet to have a defining sound or beat? Shame on you for the drivel you posted to be honest. Finally attempting to say I am a college drop out or something along those lines, when you clearly do not know what insular means or the right usage of the word is just at best idiotic. ![]() |
Anderso:True talk. ![]() |
tbaba83:Very subjective to be honest. I am not a big fan of Make up and hence she wont get good marks in my books. I prefer the second one you posted than the first. ![]() There is every chances, I will stop and look at the second one on the street, than the first one. But then that is me, afterall, one man's meat is another man's poison. ![]() tbaba83:Sorry, but I don't speak monkeys. ![]() EDIT The second photo was changed after I made this post. |
tbaba83:Sorry o. I merely stated an opinion. ![]() |
hax:I think a lot of hiphop lovers do not realise this. And another people do not seem to realise either is that people like me actually want Nigeria to be at the forefront and the reason I am critical is because I feel we can do better. But it is like, no you aint allowed to say we aint good enough or call a spade a spade. |
tbaba83:Not exactly beautiful. The position of the lights bounces off her well. . . I very much doubt she is very much attractive in real life. Probably an average in my opinion. You wont give her a second look if you know what I mean. No offence at all. I am into photography, so I have an idea what I am talking about. |
Not sure there are celebs around here, but there are people who have kissed Seun's arse so much that they get away with anything. Some on the other hand have their heads buried in Seun's arse that they can do what ever they want while nothing is done about it. There are also people who have made a bit of name for themselves, these people try hard to be different etc. MamaGee comes to mind. Then you have someone like Becomerich who should have been banned for crap posting, but somehow he is allowed to stay. Oh then you have ElRazur. . . . An evil bast*rd. ![]() |
Genuflect:Shake your head all you want, but you may want to read my posts again. I have stated that we have the right idea and potential talents, but the execution is poor. In other words, amongst the truckload of non-sense that are coming out and are out already, we have a few gem amongst them. When you have the majority in the industry as a whole coming out with 3rd rate products, do you not think it is an issue? No? Or in other words, do you not think there is an improvement needed right across? |
john_blaze:What a muppet you are. He left a note saying it was because he had issues with the Tax office that is why. You see, this is called grievances and not terrorism. Nice try. Any more anti western rant that you may have? Finally, he was motivated by his problem with paying tax etc. and not an abstract idea like religion or something. |
eldee:You clearly cannot see the bigger picture. A problem is a problem, it do not matter whether it is a common issue or not. The bottomline is that it is a problem. No? Dude, instead of getting dismissive, how about show what you know for crying out loud. Hold, rewind . . . 'some of us know the differences between the way producers sound'?? That's your argument??Can you read an absorb? Do you even see understand my point. I gave an example of how it can be identified and the best you come up with is some weak post. Pathetic. If you really understand the aspect of production, then you will understand why dre track have characteristic keyboard and piano sound AND why Timbaland have different parts that sound as filler but work as one. Lifting my words out of context to make a silly point, is lame, weak and at best shows how much you know. ![]() Here is a video on a Dre Type beat. Listen to what the Tutor was saying about Dre Beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bndqlP2FzFA NFX have been making beat tutorial for about 10 years or more now. You can learn a thing or two. Here is another video by NFX detailing a Timba-type beat. Again, listen to the characteristics of Timba beat he pointed out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63KNmuaKr4c Focus on what he says. Once you understand that, saying Dre's beat have keyboard and piano won't sound so strange to you any more. Wiki says all songs on Relapse were produced by Eminem except Beautiful, how does that sound different from any other Dre beat??Wiki says a lot of stuff and your point is? Making assumptions now? Awesome. You are getting better. No disrespect to your craft, but I don't care bout how many production softwares you've created . . . but your argument about American producers being unique is flawed.So you disagree Dre, Timba et al do not have a distinct sound? You must be kidding me. Ever heard of the phrase "Dre beats" etc. You know why they so? Not because it is made by dre, but because of the underlying unique characteristics. Period. For one to earn that, your sound and approach will have to be different. As I said before, in modern hiphop, Kanye, Timbaland, Jay Electronica and a few others are the recognisable ones. Producers like No ID, Pharell, Just Blaze concentrate more on making good beats that are as diverse as possible.Do you even read what you are saying? First you disagree that American producers do not have a unique sound and in the same breathe agree that Kanye and co have a unique sound. Make your mind up. You build an argument and the you tear it apart . . . I said Timberland and Kanye sound different from everyone else and you're arguing with me.Really? Perhaps the definition of Insular will help you out. Here: "If you say that someone is insular, you are being critical of them because they are unwilling to meet new people or to consider new ideas." [Taken from http://www.google.co.uk/dictionary?aq=f&langpair=en|en&hl=en&q=insular ] Perhaps know the meaning of words next time? Just a thought. Producers in America try to be as diverse as possible, adjusting their beats to the artistes . . . same with the ones in Nigeria.Who says other wise? I have stated this that timbaland have worked with all kind of Genres when you claimed he was insular. So your point is what? Thanks for paraphrasing what I said. ![]() I think it's good, infact I think it's best for hiphop that producers are flexible.I agree. See above. Been flexible do not mean you change your unique sound. Ask Dre. He's been in it for 20years plus and he is still doing the same unique sound and approach. |
agathamari:There is no single proof that the weapon can pull off such a thing. When this claim was made originally in the Foreign section. I replied with this [see below] [b]Negro nts and horus, you guys are full of non-sense, and that is me putting it lightly.None of them have been able to come back and said anything about this point. [This is like the 3rd or 4th time I am having to quote this now] Read full thread here. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-383522.0.html |
A big slice of his 1billion dollar empire is at stake. If I was him, I will apologise too. One billion dollars is not a small amount of money. Do you even know how much he will pay out in divorce settlement? And the financial backlash he faces? Thank god, the people that mattered the most accepted his apologies - the sponsors. ![]() |
yeswecan:You are right. The Jews and American zionist lovers was responsible. |
MrCrackles:Oga what do you expect? No offence, but the definition of success to these folks are "getting played on tv/radio" and "doing shows all year round". God forbid, this cat have personal life. It probably means shit to them. @OP Nas have cemented his status as one of the best and most consistent in the history of HipHop. If he stops for whatever reason today, nothing will change that. He just had a new baby, doing other projects and away from the media eyes. It do not mean he is gone or dropped off. Sometimes, people have a life outside music. Real fans know that. |
ofokaofoki:Do you see why some of us feel that Nigeria music scene could do better? I am surprised you haven't defended him. ![]() |
semid4lyfe:I have never said we do not have talents. We do, in fact, we have people who have very good potentials, but when the majority are getting it so wrong then that industry will suffer as a result. Just look at nollywood. . . there are potentials, but poorly executed etc. Yeah tell me about the American hiphop scene. It is "over saturated" every kid think they are the next money/commercial power house etc. I personally find some of the main stream artist a bit wack - lil wayne will come to mind, but that is another story. I will love to see standard improve across our music scene in my opinion. It will do us more good in the long run. |
ofokaofoki:It is frustration to type in caps so as to make a point. It is a weakness to try and discredit someone's view point cheaply because you simply cannot go against what was said. I am not an authority, but I know a thing or two about Naija Hiphop. Look dude, I have respect for you and it would be a shame if you have to step out of line over different views. State your views in a civil manner, it is the least you can do. After all, you are supposed to be the grown up right? Nice. |
saharachic:The Juno G is a workstation. I.e a complete studio in a box so to speak. You can make a whole song on it if necessary. Check out more info here: http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=756 Here is track made with "stock sound" on the Juno G https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVA8nfOdgE Here is video showing how quick one can make a beat on it [I posted comments on that on] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv5SWftlXcU The NI Maschine is what is called a "Groove box" i.e something for making beats - but more suited for drums imo. It is like an Akai mpc drum machine but only better. It works with your computer and makes your work flow very fast. You can finish a whole track on it etc. Check out more info here: http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/products/producer/maschine/ And here are videos showing what can be done with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSKndbitZDU You can just forward to 4mins onwards to hear the beat. And this is my favourite video showing how you can sample music with it and make something brand new: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3m8W75C9zw The maschine sells for about £500 and the Juno G for around £800. Both can do each others "job" but the Juno G have very good sound on board and the whole idea is for me make the beats on the Maschine and then add sounds from the Juno G etc. PS if you are a student, you can pick up the maschine for £379 or so, but you are not allowed to use it for commercial purposes. [Whether they will find out or not, I do not know] but I am picking up the student version in some few weeks. I just pray I have the time to do it all. Oh you can pick up the Juno G for around £400 - £500 as a second hand - Personally, I won't as I prefer to have it new as it comes with 3 year warranty that way, if anything happens to it within that 3 year period, it will be fixed for free. |
jiggaz:Really? Do you have to know anything about Hollywood movie before you can say a movie is good or bad? Having said that, Naija music is not hollywood and most who posted here will know a thing or two about naija movie. It is people like you that are adding to the problem - can't take criticism and think those who dare point out the flaws are "haters" or "haterz" isnt? Our artists at best are average. Especially, our top 10 rappers. It is this sort of mentality that is killing us. I remember when I used to think Super Eagles play the best football in the whole wide world. Imagine how that myth was shattered when I moved back to London and started watching the EPL from 96 or so. A poplar song, do not mean our artist are taking over. This is the common mistakes you guys keep making. An artist enjoying 15mins of fame, do not mean they are here to stay. I can give you names of Artist who have had world wide success for a limited time and after that gone downhill. |
mr_me_too:He is talking about many things. The industry, the "artist" etc. You claim he is wrong, but yet haven't showed how he is wrong. Been popular do not mean it is good. For example, the sex industry in our higher institution is poplar, does that mean it is good? ![]() Just because you have an American friend telling you it is taking over do not mean it is. The same way you have people telling you it is taking over, is the same way some of us think it is nothing but poorly executed ideas. I am the one who made the point about defined sound. Clearly you have no idea about hip hop. In America [since those are the people our artist are copying] The South have a gritty sound that have become know as "Dirty South" - Pulsating drums, compressed drum rolls and snare with a long going melody on top. The California side have their "West coast" flavour - Deep bass synth, laid back beats etc. If all these places have been using stock sounds straight from Fruityloops or DMX [dmx is a classic drum machine] I guess there won't be so much definition between them. And one crucial mistake you made is that a producer with a defined sound can produce any kind of music genre. Genuflect:Have you travelled beyond your shores? Beyond the shores of Africa and actually spend time and live for a while in other places? Here, I grew up in naija listening to artist that you probably don't even know. Dele Abiodun, Prince Segun Adewale, Haruna Ishola, Victor Uwaifo, Bobby Benson, Dan Maraya, Victor Olaya etc. I am in my late 20s but I had the chance to listen to all of these great and proper artist. My point? I know a thing or two when it comes to the Nigeria music scene and have always listen to the evolution of these music lyrically and production wise. Did you know that Sunny ade made loads of changes in bringing Guitar to the music scene? I listen to Naija music now, and it reminds me of the commercial and there are just areas that I feel needs improvement. And when I say improvement, I am talking about getting the basics right. I watch a video last night of Sasha, sauce-kid and another guy. One of the comments posted on youtube was bang on target it says "I think the vocal delivery can be tighter". Simply put, their flows with back tracks is weak. |
aloy-emeka:Your vote is your power, use it wisely. In that case, on what grounds did he have your vote? ![]() |
aasog:Yeah you vote for him on the basis he led a protest? Jesus wept! So if there is another candidate who is better than him, but didn't go on the protest. . . I guess he gets your vote right? Jezz. Nigeria will forever remain behind. ![]() |
Beaf:In addition to that. Jesus never had a jet, or equivalent of one during his time. Jesus never involved in politics like some of these men of God are lately. Jesus never operated a business like church etc. But I guess Christianity these days is different from what Jesus taught back then. Praise da lord. |
otokx:Three or four parapgraphs of his own words. . . out of context? Hmmm I hear you. Lmao. |
Let us get this out of the way now! **Lights a special brand of Cigar [CT special]*** George Bush, Israel, CIA and the Jew are responsible for 911. There was never a plane that plunged into one of the buildings. The collapse of the tower is more like that of a building rigged with explosives. The CIA where aware of the terrorist activity. It was one of the audacious plan of the New American world order. President "Im-a-dinner-jacket" have claimed it was planned and so it must be true. Anyone who disagree with any of my point is a fool and needs to be educated. ![]() PS Mod please close thread as we all agree it is the work of the Americans and Jews. |
eldee:How nice and very tactical. You did not argue or counter the point but then proceed to be dismissive. Oh wait, this is nairaland. I don't know about you but I know the difference between Don Jazzy and Timbaland.Did you just say someone argued in a flawed manner, and yet the best you came out with is this? Right, allow me to state further that some of us know the different between producers sound. You just gotta have an ear for it. While some individual track may sound like others, over all, people are able to and can tell the difference between a Dre beat and a that of timba for example. In dre beat, you have plenty of Keyboards and Pianos, while that of timbo have many different parts that sometimes act as fillers, but overall works as "one" in the beat. That is just some of these characteristic signature that have made these producer their defined sound. Insular? Timbo insular? Right and I do not know about Hiphop right? Way to show your knowledge. This is a guy who is a super producer and have worked from Your pop album to your indie records and along side music considered as "white music". He paid his dues, but yeah you will have something to say. Before we lose the point. The point is that No producer in Nigeria have a defined sound. No? As for Kanye, oh please. He's work with plenty of people before he become this known kanye. Not to sound like I am showing off, I have a Juno G workstation and one of the things I did is learn how to make my own sound from the synth. I.e tweak existing sound on board to make my own, etc than just using stock sounds. If you really know about hiphop, you will realise my point as per Nigeria's producers and stock sound. |
tpia.:From what I know, there is no man made energy/weapon etc as of yet that can trigger an earth quake like we have seen in Haiti. What have been posted as facts are nothing but supposed weapons etc. Even the Tesla guy been referred to appear to have made a "theoretical inventions" i.e proposed a theory on something that may sound feasible i.e able to work, but probably never proven etc. |
tpia.:My apologies. I thought you were asking something else. My fault. Apologies for that. [Was in the middle of something when I posted that.] Oh yeah I know, but people seem to ignore these things. |
tpia.:You know it is best to keep quite sometimes and just read and absorb. Read the thread again instead of asking silly questions. ![]() |
naijaroots:Why dont you just ask people to please read your blog? No offence, average rappers. Commercial garbage and the very reason why the OP have a point. Da Grin have my respect for what he is doing. But then it do not mean he isn't a hype. Cuzo sound just about every other "american wanna be" rapper I have heard. Please tell me am wrong. His first track "Naija girl" or something was the better of the two. The second one is just another garbage - claiming to be street smart, talk about guns and his niggers and his haters and how much he rolls in money and run the streets! Give me a flipping break. I have been listening to hiphop since the time of AfricanBambata. . . Please tell me something else. Yet in your opinion, you think someone like this is the "best unsigned artist". Awesome. Naija hiphop scene have the right idea, but just like our nollywood, poorly executed. Most of the sound used on most naija track are straight up stock sound from programs like Fruity loops etc. Tell me which producer in naija have a defined sound? You cant miss a Dr Dre Beat, you will know a Timbaland beat or something by produced by Kanye wont go unrecognised. I listen to naija hiphop and those supposedly produced in ghana with big bucks are nothing but pop sound. |
Read my post again. I know what TESLA is before it was a "point of knowledge" around here. TESLA weaponry do not have the kind of power needed to cause such destruction. Do you not understand this? Since it appears you keep throwing this whole tesla name around. Have a read on his wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#Directed-energy_weapon Perhaps that will shut you up a bit? No? |
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