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So kini big deal? Any one here who is a Nigerian should not even attempt to criticize him if the alleged story have any truth in them. After all, it aint like we have a high moral ground or something.

Mariory:
How dare you suggest that the earthquake was a natural phenomenon? How dare you suggest common sense be utilised? How dare you suggest that we act educated? How dare you suggest that the US hasn't been causing earthquakes from the dawn of time with their secreat weapons and time machine? How very dare you?

Horus, Negro_Ntns, Sammilla, and "the others", are you going to stand for this travesty?

Sorry o no vex. I heard it was a weapon called HARRP. After all, the Russian military who are completely unbiased about the West said so. So it must be true!

Negro_Ntns gave his quit thread somewhere around here. I have a feeling he is gone[s] but reincarnated in the body of another account.[/s]

I was hoping Cap28 would at least come back with facts to defend his view point - well at least he said he would be back.

Mariory:
Did you just seriously ask that? Ofcourse he has a degree in the Internet.

Common I think we both know common sense is so last year. It's no longer about facts, Hollywood has seen to that. It is now more about plausible stories.

I see, lol. I only have HND when it comes to internet but I have a feeling I can give him a run for his money.

It is crazy isn't people actually hold on to view points like those of the posters you mentioned and THEN take it into a debate as a fact. It may be good for a beer parlour or Pub house debate, but on the internet? Give me a break lol.

nikkykay:
You are a very silly and brainless miscreant.Why wuld u open ds kind of thread? So u are so daft that u cant make some decisions on your own as a man. Hw culd you bring a case of a man of God here when u know some animals wuld open their mouths to insult them.You were the first to throw a stone at your own pastor while other pple that have bn talking rubbish follow.It is idiots liek you that will first get to church on Sundays with big bible.Must you condemn whatever your pastor has said?If u dont have confidence in your pastor knowing very well what he culd be up to why dont u just ignore what he said and keep your little pipe hole shut?
It shows that u are so useless and i dont think u can handle any girl they way u have displayed here.
Were u the only one in your church that day?

Typical idiotic nigerian mentality. Keep it up.

davidylan:
Perhaps my use of the word "fear" was not in the best context but that was why i added the term "healthy" there. I might be wrong in your perspective and you have every right to question it.

Here is my point again in a nutshell . . . this idea that "there is no single leader" in a relationship holds no water. No offence meant here but even your parents would disagree with you. There just has to be someone making the hard decisions . . . the role of the leader is not to impose his will but to listen, coordinate varying opinions and then take a stand in the interest of both parties.

Fear cannot be healthy in my opinion and yeah it was a wrong word usage, but nothing do you.

Again, some will say that is an archaic of thinking and very much bothers on the principles of a few religion.

None taken. I am not my parents and what they do in their relationship is their own palaver. In my relationship, all are equal and there is no single leader. When it comes to certain decision, she is better equipped than I am to make those decision and vice versa. I respect her decision in these kind of areas and she respects mine too. I guess this is why it is a relationship and not a "leadership and follow-ship. In my humble opinion, there really is no need for a leader etc IMO like you are suggesting.

But I guess we have to disagree to agree - or how did the saying goes again? If your approach works for you then no worries. I am happy for you. No vex, but arsenal football is on.

If you are after Indecency. Go Yabatech or Lag. You can pick up decent and good looking ladies who will phuck your brains out while you have it recorded at the right price.

I am not a big fan of strip club, in fact, I have never been to one here, and no way I will ever go to one in Naija. Good luck though.

davidylan:
Try flying an aircraft "50-50". It makes absolutely no sense . . . many of you really need to sit down and talk with your mothers and see how your 50-50 idea holds up. American marriages are all about 50-50 . . . care to give me the divorce rates.

A plane is not a relationship. Just the same way your original example between a mother and a child is not applicable.

davidylan:
I am a proponent of women being submissive to their men and i have no apologies for that.

And this is the part where I really do not feel it is worth debating this further.

In the mean time, please elaborate more on this submissiveness you speak of. Treating women like a second or third rate person in a relationship? No?

davidylan:
1. This has nothing to do with my christian beliefs.

Fine by me. But the whole captain of the ship analogy is a classic biblical example no? "Jesu ni balogun oko yi" no? Okay cool.

2. You're assuming that a man asserting his authority in a relationship is simply being an "animal" who needlessly has to massage his ego by subjugating his partner. That is far from the truth.

No you are assuming that. Animal insticnt do not make one an animal in that sense, it more or less means doing what one is "programmed" to do. And from the way your original post goes, it is clear to all that you feel there should be a healthy measure of fearfulness. No?

3. I understand why you would reject my analogy, it stands in the way of your own narrow idea of what the OP is trying to say.

Again No. I reject your analogy on the basis that it do not fit in with the issue at hand. This is between those in a relationship. I.e a relationship between people dating/married/in love etc and not that of a mother and child in which you painted. Narrow idea? Erm okay.

4. Here is my point in simple english - in a relationship there has to be a leader . . . and such a leader has to INSPIRE (note i dont use the term force or demand which i believe is wrong) respect from the one he claims to lead.

Here, my point is that both parties in relationship are equal and as such there is no single leader.  

And from your original explanation, you expect a man to be in charge and put the woman in a position where she have a fear of the man [even though you say "healthy"]. I then went on to explain how been afraid in what ever form will is wrong.

You claimed your belief have nothing to do with this, yet your arguments are bordering on the classic bible lines of "As God is the head of the ship, so is man the head of the house" or something along those lines

5. Ask the women who hail your posts as being "western" whether they will be comfortable marrying a wimp who lets them get away with just about anything.

Dude. Let us stick to the issue at hand. It is an open forum please feel free to ask them. I really do not have to do that for you. Or perhaps if you disagree with my view and calling me a wimp, may be you should be "man enough" to come out and say so? Just a thought.

platinumnk:
I never thought Id hear this from a Nigerian man, you're not nigerian

Look dear, what I say here is for here. In real life you will cook, clean and wash my dish. Heck you will wipe my backside when am done in the toilet too. After all, you WILL BE fearful of me.


Seriously, I think we are equals that is all. All these "machoness" do not help a relationship in this kind of area in my opinion. If you want to be macho, I guess you can help round the house, fix the tv when it is broken, paint the hallway when it is needed, etc. But then, that is my opinion.

davidylan:
Very possible. I would use this analogy . . . as close as you are to your mum, there is a level of respect you have for her that keeps you from insulting her. It doesnt mean you quake in your boots and hide under the bed on hearing her voice.

As much as "we" are meant to be equals . . . no two captains can steady a ship. Someone has to be in command and the vice must have a level of respect for the captain for things to run smoothly.

I suspect you will come up with that. I do not sleep with my mum you see. So, in this case it may not be applicable.

From your posts, I guess it is safe to assume you are a Christian and possibly a devoted one? If so, yeah I see where you are coming from. Personally, I feel in a relationship - between people who are in love/dating/married etc - there should be a mutual respect. I do not have to exercise my "machoness" or let the animal instinct in me take over my social manners and hence try to make my partner be afraid of me in a "healthy way".

Healthy fear may only be applicable - using the example you gave - say between parents and kids. Definitely not those in a relationship [married/dating/in love etc] in my opinion.

davidylan:
The OPs post was rather long but he hit a home-run on his points. A man needs to be in charge of his woman . . . forget this nonsensical idea of 50-50. Women dont want a man they can walk all over . . .

if i can sum up this thread in 1 sentence it will be - get a spine dudes . . . your woman shld be afraid of you in a healthy way.

How can you be afraid of someone in a healthy way? To be afraid means to have fear. No? I do not want someone am dating or my partner to be afraid or fearful of me, I do not see how that is healthy. We are meant to be equals you know.

The OP's point at best is sexist and underlines the typical egomaniac crap that is killing most relationship. Especially in Nigeria IMO.

mama-gee:
Yes, they are lots of beautiful girls on Nairaland
The question now is Are there Handsome Men on Nairaland?

Not quite. All ladies on NL are beautiful, but you ma'am are fugly. I think you are the female version of Taribo West and Shabba Ranks all wrapped up in the body of one human. You! lol.

^^ Are those contacts in your eyes there?

edoyad:
Oyb you can see why a Lagos boy is pis.sed at your kind, you mean to tell me you don't know that There's a vaccine for poliomyelitis ?
oyb you also mean to tell me you don't know that leprosy spreads more in unhygenic environments and if detected early could be mitigated ?. Shame on you , shame shame shame ! !
@citizen Y, do you know that population control is an integral part of National Economic planning ? Even IBB, a man i dread so much, tried to live by example by preaching and practising the 4 children limit gospel.

Funny but true.

I noticed you are jack of all trades too. YOu appear to offer other services lol.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=395806.msg5482820#msg5482820

Again, where is your portfolio for these kind of Job?.

I refuse to. Life is too short.

Look at this funny guy. Where is you official dating website? What are you credentials? It is all well and good to offer people services, but at least show your handiwork or something. Personally, I won't do business with agency who uses a free email address system.

Dis guy think say him wise. E use style drop him number and email. I pity the mugu wey fall for your trick and call you.

timm09:
Am just wondering,when will Nigerians attitude change towards some issues of life?when people are getting old and still single,they tend to go to churches,mosques and herbalists to solve the problem when there are dating organizations around, Whats your opinion about this?

No they come on Nairaland to post some useless thread flauting a useless dating service.

daduke2k:
Is your pastor married? Cos he s lookin 4 a wife

Shouldn't the pastor be spending that day with his own wife or who ever he is dating? LMAO!

I think you are missing the point. Anyway, MRBrown jay already summed it up nicely.

Tee_Jay:
those who attend church, or should i say christians abide by the bible, it is meant to be their lifestyle. When a marriage is rocky they consult the bible and ask the pastor to intervene so if the relationship was based on unbiblical acts before solemnisation how can you then have the boldness to seek the pastors help when he had already warned you to abstain

Marriage is not the same as dating. How is my GF [or in this case, that of the OP] the business of the Pastor?

What do you call unbiblical acts? Sex before marriage? Oh please let us not go there please.

selencious:
@El-Shut your trap Brainless!!! So, if a pastor doesn't do exactly what Jesus did, he is not a true man of God,  Do you know the reason why he said that? You do not know if he was instructed by God and you do not know how many lives the word he would preach that day would save. Some couples thinking of doing what is not right before marriage might end up with a change of mind. That was why I said think before you post stupidly.

Kai. See me, see fire, see you, see petrol. No let make I burn you joo. So please relax will you.

Please answer the following questions.

1. If Christians are followers of christ. And as a result, do what he did when he is alive or try and live by his principles and teachings [and that of the holy spirit]. Please explain to me which part of the teachings of christ did this request of this pastor fall into?

2. I am trying hard to find a reason and as it stands the end do not justify the means. What people get up to in their personal life is none of his business. You just do not ask people to bring in their GF on Val's day. How many people do you think feel comfortable with that? Clearly the OP is not comfortable with it. No?

3. He is a man of God? I very much doubt that. He is about as man of God as Osama bin landen is a peaceful man.  Anyone can do any stupid thing and say it is an act of God. In the eye of Osama bin laden he is doing the will of God and what god wanted - I.e acting under instructions from God. And as with the hallmark of most religion, these so called men of God will do anything stupid and attribute it to God's instructions. What a load of bullocks.

Tee_Jay:
no be by force now, if he doesnt want to do it just dont, infact if you feel the preaching about abstinence is rubbish then keep doing it but why should you expect the wedding to be done by the church when you have not kept to the requirements

Say what? Since when did the church become a player in someone's life - especially romance? Please explain these "requirements" to me. Lol.

Thank heavens some of us can ask questions. Kai.

selencious:
@ID and EL, I don't think itz any of your Biz;you should learn to mind your biz instead of jumping into silly  conclusions. Its the poster's choice if he wants to. You have no right to judge the pastor;he's got a reason for saying that.
@Poster, I think you need not post this topic;use your brain and do whatever you please. Afterall, your pastor didn't say its by force aight. If you think it ain right, leave the church and go somwhr else. Whatever!!!

Look at this Mumuni! It becomes everybody's business once it is posted in a public forum!

The same way the pastor have a right and choice to make "unbiblical" request, so do we have the right and choice to criticize and give scathing opinions on his actions.

Please point to me where in the bible Jesus did such thing, or the God most high asked his shepherd such dubious thing? No?

Tee_Jay:
no harm in dat, if you attend the church then u should feel free to bring your gf along. He probably wants to encourage in the way to go about dating

Where in the bible did Jesus did that or God ask his followers to interfere?

oge4real:
He will definitely tell you to abstain from s/e/x before marriage.

I wonder if he practised what he preaches?

I won't be surprise if he was a dauda the sexy guy back in his own days.

4 Play:
Cap28, I agree with you 100%. Last weekend, I felt an earthquake in my bedroom. I knew it was Obama's CIA agents after me because I have been criticizing him. These Yanks will go to any length to attack anyone.

I think it is the unbalanced bed of yours that is rocking again. Lol. Mind you, the CIA was the reason it was rocking in the first place.

It is amazing how these so called christ-followers are doing things Christ himself never did when he was alive. It is not his duty or business whatsoever to make such request or even attempt to preach abstinence, if that was his plan off course.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8490795.stm



In a dark and twisted kind of way, I somehow think in her eyes, she loves this guy to the very last bone. It was a classic case of "If I can't have it, no one else should". Damn, what a way to die. Poison curry!

Day after day Lakhvir Singh sat in the dock at the Old Bailey, usually with her eyes closed, as family members and her love rival gave evidence against her.

From her arrest - of which a police officer said: "She appeared calm and controlled and did not show emotions" - right up to her conviction, Singh appeared detached from the cruel death she inflicted on a man she professed to love.

The court heard how the 45-year-old mother-of-three had a secret affair with Lakhvinder Cheema, which lasted 16 years.

But two weeks before he was due to be married to Gurjeet Choongh, "lovesick" Singh, laced a pot of curry with Indian aconite, which is known as the "queen of poisons".

'No cure'

Mr Cheema, 39, of Feltham, west London, became engaged to Ms Choongh, 22, in November 2008, after his family began to suspect his taboo affair.

Singh, from Southall, left for India when the engagement was announced, but returned a month later having made up her mind to poison him, the jury heard.

On Wednesday, she was found guilty of Mr Cheema's murder, but cleared of attempting to murder Miss Choongh.

In the months leading up to the murder, Singh sent texts to Mr Cheema in which she veered between despair - "there is no cure for lovesick persons" - to self-pity - "sometimes I feel you have forgotten me, but my heart says that you cannot forget me".

On 26 January 2009, while Mr Cheema was abroad receiving treatment for cancer, Singh went to his house and put the poison in a container that held the curry.

Her choice of poison was aconite ferox - commonly known as Indian aconite - a herb found in the foothills of the Himalayas that is used in herbal medicines.

Indian aconite comes from a family of aconitum plants, which also grow in Britain, where it is known as monkshood, wolfsbane or hemlock.

Aconite poison affects the heart and central nervous system, Prof Robin Ferner, a clinical pharmacologist, explained.

"You vomit profusely and it's difficult to stop the vomiting," he said.

"You get abdominal pain and then you get heart trouble and your heart becomes less powerful your heartbeats fade, your heart rhythm is disturbed and that heart rhythm disturbance kills you."

Soon after dinner on the night of the poisoning, the victims began vomiting. The jury heard Mr Cheema's face became numb and within minutes he lost his sight, then the use of his arms and legs.

In a 999 call, the operator asked him if the pair had "food poisoning". He replied: "No not food poisoning, somebody just put poison in our food.

When asked why would someone poison his food, Mr Cheema said: "My ex-girlfriend, because she was my ex-girlfriend."

Ending the call he told the operator he "can't see properly".

A CCTV camera at his home captured his nephews carrying him and Miss Choongh into a car. As the car starts he can be heard vomiting.

In the hour before his death, he told a doctor Singh had "put something in the food".

One of his tenants, Helen Hurley, said Mr Cheema "looked in a hurry" to change the locks on the evening he was poisoned.

He told her: "I believe my ex-girlfriend was here. I am changing the locks just in case she comes back."

The rapid and fatal effect of the poison alarmed the hospital and police evacuated Mr Cheema's and Singh's homes, suspecting there may have been an airborne or chemical threat.

Officers found a plastic bag containing a brown powder in Singh's coat, which she claimed was medication for a rash on her neck.

But the contents of the powder matched the poison found in the curry - which led to her conviction by the jury

Still no "alternative facts" are forth coming?



In the mean time, the US have tested the same HARRRP weapon in their own backyard. You can always trust the Americans to minimize the damage in their own back yard.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/02/quake-like-tremors-reported-in-western-suburbs.html

Abu-Safwan:
This man want to deviate my point to religious discourse. Though MUhsin had clarified it he could not comprehend. BUt let me ask you a question who create the "hippocampus" in the brain of such unique people? speak with logic my friend! If it is not the 'do' of God then every body can do it but how many are they in the world. Or can you do it? Really you can't unless God wills you to do. It is such selection that makes it the 'do' of God. If you think it is solely based on someones struggle go and do it my friend. 1, 000, 000, 000, as gift for you once you memorize it even in the next 10yrs. And also as you write "Nothing spectacular about it. Kids in china are trained using Abascus from a young age to do complex maths that are usually done on calculators", and I say you should know there is difference between memorization and 'know-how-to-do'. Thinks again.

I have no idea what you are talking about. If you can rewrite in simple English, I will then post a reply. No offence.

Lol.

The most important quality is that a Good wife do not post on nairaland. And as a general rule of thumb, a good wife can never be found on nairaland.

FL Gators:
I f he loves me, he'll want to die first.

Not a death wish, dear, just a nomination

Lmao.

Do you not love him?

How will you feel if he nominates you instead? Lol.

Sisi_Kill:
I read it and i still don't see how the kids factor in this at all but to answer your question based on the scenario that the kids are still young, i really believe it would be easier on the kids if daddy died first.

Let's face it, no matter how good he is, he can never be mom. In less than 6months after she's gone, he's bringing another woman in to help care for the children.

Never mind. As tpia rightly pointed out, it was a bit weak, but yeah glad you got the gist.

I see your point, but it makes me feel creepy when women appear to be nominating their husbands lol.

Are you suggesting you won't get married after he's gone?