₦airaland Forum

john_blaze:
I dont think its a case of ignorance, its rather the unwillingness to accept the fact that such device can exist. Lets all for a second believe that there is no such thing as H.A.A.R.P or earthquake weapons. It may be a conspiracy after all, but how do we explain the fact that a patent for this device exist?
Could that be another conspiracy?

For crying out loud.

Do the device exist? Well, there is a device called Harrp that do exsit.

Can it cause earthquake? Put it this way, there is no power on earth enough to cause the kind of earthquake in haiti. It is a thousand times stronger than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima and as such, no nation on earth have that kind of power. So NO Harrp do not posses the kind of power needed to cause an earthquake measuring almost 7 on the Richter scale. etc

As for claiming some scientist who participated in the project wrote a book. Excuse me, they sound more like disgruntled ex-employee who have an axe to grind. Imagine the copies it will sell - thanks to people who like you - when he makes such ridiculous claims!

The point is, there is a weapon called Harrp that exist. I have stated this from the first few threads [see the foreign section] that started all this crap about how US was behind it all. Yes, this weapon exist, but it do not have the kind of power most of you are suggesting. Why? Refer back to the second paragraph above.

One of the greediest and cunning man in Nigeria eyes the presidency position non-shocker!

woodnaija:
i kno u nigaz r jealous becos me nd my nigaz have big swag and u low level nigaz got nothin but low views.

It is a bit ironic you are saying that. May be you should **watch** your own video again, look at the people in it, listen to what's been said and the stereotypical views you and your gang portray. Then may be, just may be you will understand the irony in your own post.

ofokaofoki:
@el razur
your name sounds familiar , abi na bcuzzz i diss u ?lol see hater

I think we spoke via email once or twice as per VST for FL.

I have nothing against you.

By the way, it may be of interest to you to know that I bought a brand new Juno G today and have it in front of me. Oh an am picking up a Native Instrument maschine soon. You can check out both on youtube [Type in Juno G hip hop beat, Maschine Hip Hop beat etc] FL is so dated now. I use Ableton live 8 as my DAW.

ofokaofoki:
this is the only thing , that gave u out as a hater. arrant thrash.

You mean he stated good points and since you find it hard to counter, you resulted to saying the above? Nice.

In my opinion, people like you are part of the problem.

cabrison:
i ate all nigeria musicians, dey are not well equip like foreign musicians, or wat do u think

I am quoting this, so that it is framed for life.

Basics007:
Probably by the time you know how to speak and write English properly like your foreign counterparts they would've been better equiped. Shio

What are you talking about. The guy raised a valid point on cannibalism. After all, he ate all our musicians. He should be feared at least.

agathamari:
^^^^^^pcmecom we heard you the first time

Lmao!

LewsTherin:
Some people will believe anything. Some people want to believe anything. Next time it rains heavily, they will say "the US caused it so that our oil fields will be too wet to work in so they have to take it over therefore watch out for American submarines and stealth aircraft in the Niger Delta"

BULL excreta!!

Can any of these people give a correlation between radio waves (no matter how powerful) and tectonic plate movements? Why not link it up with 2012 (THE MOVIE)?

GO TO SCHOOL AND GET A SOUND EDUCATION, BELIEVE IN GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND YOU WONT BE FOOLED BY SAHARA REPORTERS AND THEIR ILK!

mshew!

You wait till they tell you how uneducated and misguided you are!

ow11:
That sort of nullifies your earlier statement of 'living by the sword', don't it? I think it does. . .

It depends on where you stand. If you live by the sword against a nation like Israel, US, UK, Russia et al. It is possible one will die by the sword - especially if one become an enemy of these states. On the other hand, Nations like Nigeria have shown time and time again that certain people can kill and get away with it.

naija_swag:
We have to look at issues pragmatically and holistically.Check this links out from Al Jazeera .Then you will understand that many Africa leaders who refuse to give in to the right reasoning deserves a coup against them.Why must Africa continue to suffer under despotic leaders who are never interested in their well fare? When it happened in Honduras last year,the world condemned it but later had to understand that it was necessary to save a society from the whims and caprices of one man.The US has recognized the Honduras election although Brazil and some other countries have not and to a large extent it is inconsequential.Where was your president who was supposed to take charge of this matters that has been trying to escalate in the last one year? Did you think that this is an isolated incident? Address my questions and writing holistically and stop singling out legitimacy.Why must it be in Africa that leaders spend many years in power and have only poverty to show for it? It is in your country that a man had the guts to tell the whole nation that he made $500 million from sale of oil block and will get away with it.Was that oil block located in his fathers compound?

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/08/200988183348858186.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/10/20091030231013310453.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/11/20091122171056792509.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/08/200985161438111784.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2010/02/2010218225146122602.html

I understand your point of view from the onset. However, to claim it is legal when it isnt is what I am having issues with. While a lot of things are welcomed by the masses and majority, again it do not mean it is legal. But yeah I understand your view point and I already stated that I am not in support of those who wants to cling in power till the end of time.

naija_swag:
Have you being following the politics of Niger and in fact the West African region in the last 1 year?

Will you please answer the question. How is a coup legal?

ow11:
Then I take it that we should expect a counter murder of the 11 suspected assassins in the not too distant future.

I am afraid things do not work like that. It may happen or may not happen. Have we seen the death of IBB, even though we know he is responsible for the death of Dele Giwa allegedly?

naija_swag:
The Coup in Niger is legitimate.

Really? Under what law? Something that feel morally right do not necessarily mean it is legal. For example, I feel it is morally wrong to pay taxes on my wages, but I will be breaking the law if I do so, hence illegal. I very much doubt if any Coup is legal in anyway, but then may be you know something that I don't.

texazzpete:
That's racism, my dear fellow.

Not really. It is more an insult. Queer = Odd/unusual etc [then it changed to mean Gay from the 90s or so]

Yes. It was reported that Gay indecency was shown in a church by the Pastor to the congregation. Why? Well, it is an attempt to gain support for the Anti-gay laws in Uganda.

I read the article [see below] and it worries me that Shock tactics are been used alongside religion so as to gather support for a law that is arguably backward in my opinion.

In one of the defence presented for such tactics, the pastor claimed that what ever people get up to - i.e love making - should be private. Yet, he opted to show a full blown intimacy movie in a church with children present. Surely, that is wrong in itself? But I guess common sense is not that obvious.

This sort of things underlies the hatred and bad attitude towards homosexuality in Africa. I firmly expect some to disagree with me, off course they are welcome to.

Full story:

A Ugandan clergyman's decision to show gay indecency to his congregation has been labelled as "twisted, homophobic propaganda" by a gay rights groups.

Behind the Mask told the BBC the stunt, by anti-gay Pastor Martin Ssempa, equated homosexuality to paedophilia.

The pastor showed the indecency in an attempt to gain support for a proposed law which would see some gay people facing the death penalty.

The bill, under consideration by MPs, has been condemned across the world.

US President Barack Obama has described the proposals as "odious".

Religion misused

Noma Pakade, from the African gay rights group Behind the Mask, accused the pastor of perpetuating violence by his anti-gay campaign.

"Showing indecency in church in the presence of minors is twisted homophobic propaganda, where homosexuality is equated to paedophilia and indecency," she told the BBC.

"It is not surprising, but rather disappointing, that in Africa in the 21st Century yet again discrimination and prejudice is legitimised through religion."

Homosexuality is already against the law in Uganda and punishable by lengthy jail terms.

But supporters of the bill, including the pastor, want the punishments ramped up.

"In Africa, what you do in your bedroom affects our clan, it affects our tribe, it affects our nation," he told the BBC's Network Africa programme.

He justified his decision to show gay indecency to about 300 people, saying: "We are in the process of legislation and we have to educate ourselves about what homosexuals do."

The anti-gay proposal, introduced into parliament as a private member's bill, garnered wide support among Ugandan MPs and conservative religious groups.

But President Yoweri Museveni recently hinted that he was coming under international pressure to scrap the proposals.

The post of presidency to most people in Africa is like what the ring is to Gollum in Lord of the ring. It will forever remain attractive to them until it sucks the life out of them. In other words, it is evident that power corrupts and even corrupts more in Africa.
As it stands, time will tell if the plotters live up to their words. Or will they be another Gollum? Time will tell.


The African Union said this:

The African Union has condemned the takeover saying coups were contrary to the AU's vision of a continent free of unconstitutional changes of government.

Seriously? Where were they when changes was been made to the constitution by the now ousted president? Someone please tell me they did voice concern.

The post of presidency to most people in Africa is like what the ring is to Gollum in Lord of the ring.  It will forever remain attractive to them until it sucks the life out of them. In other words, it is evident that power corrupts and even corrupts more in Africa.
As it stands, time will tell if the plotters live up to their words. Or will they be another Gollum? Time will tell.


The African Union said this:

The African Union has condemned the takeover saying coups were contrary to the AU's vision of a continent free of unconstitutional changes of government.

Seriously? Where were they when changes was been made to the constitution by the now ousted president? Someone please tell me they did voice concern.

ow11:
Then what do you call the people that murdered him in his room? Do you justify an eye for an eye?

So do the 4 men that murdered him deserve a hit on them by members of his family?

The people that murdered him are killers. No it is not a belief in an eye for an eye. It is a case of living by the sword. . . .

Like I said it is a case of those who live by the sword, die by the sword. Most spies hardly have family or long term relationship. And when they do, their partner do not even know about what they get up to. Fact.

shotster50:
@ ELrazur,

If that assasination was top notch as you clearly think, the killers wont have their pictures and video footages displayed from all the way from Dubai to Israel. My take is Mossad probably did this as a ruse because it would be hard to believe they could be so careless.

If you think I am wrong,check the assasinations of the following people:

Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko

Georgi Markov .

I don't remember saying top-notch. All I have said that it is chilling and have hallmarks of the mossad.

I have also stated that could it be a possibility that Israel is getting framed?

In this day and age of digital electronics. It is almost difficult to carry out such activity without leaving some form of "evidence" behind. There are cctv everywhere - heck I have cctv installed in my house [outside] - so it is very difficult not to have someone's image recorded.

As for the Russian muder, there were traces of the radioactive poison that was used and was traceable. I did forensic science in my first year during my first degree and what I learnt is that there is no such thing as a perfect murder.



There are even suggestion by an ex-mossad member that was interviewed that the killing may have been done as a result of "in-fighting" between the Palestine etc. All speculation and no one knows the fact for now I think.

Abeem:
The Israelis uses its security outfit - Mossad to commit atrocities in other countries under disguise using all sort of forgeries to carry out their nefarious activities and some people are happy and hailing them for doing an excellent job. Well there is no hiding place for them and their evil security outfit this time around. The wind has blown and their rear end is exposed for all to see. It has been revealed that the cowards used British passports as camouflague to hid their identity so they can secure an easy passage and now the British prime minister has ordered a full scale investigation into the crime. See this link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/17/avigdor-lieberman-israel-mossad-killing

Are you kidding me? You quote the guardian right to back up your claim that Isreal was responsible. When the newspaper across UK have been using inverted commas in their headlines and upon reading the news story, it becomes clear that there is no solid evidence to proof that Mossad was responsible. So how did you reach your conclusion? I will suggest reading the paper again. Jeez.

For the record, Mossad have a policy of not making comment, deny or claiming responsiblity for clandestines activities. So let it be no surprise the guardian headline reads "Gordon Brown pledges inquiry as Israel refuses to rule out Mossad plot in Dubai". But I guess in your eyes, that is a conclusive evidence? Nah wah o.

For the record, all nation have their own security agency, USA have the CIA, the UK Mi5 and Mi6, Russia have KGB [FSB] etc. All these security out fit do carry out killings, espionage, covert operation, sabotage etc al around the world and guess what? They use fake passport to travel as it do not draw attention to their mission. Gosh.


Finally, I don't honestly think much will happen from the investigation ordered by Brown. At most, the UK passport security will be beefed up. It is very hard to forge as it is, but they can always make it harder. Also, it may be worth knowing that Britain have much to lose if they fall out with the Israel. They are our biggest ally in the ME. And as the world stands today, we need them. Period. This is politics and the death of a man perceived as terrorist by most western nation is going to derail relationship. Come to think of it, the only reason UK is concerned is the use of the passport and no the death of Mamoud.

This is the funniest and hard hitting post I have read on this issue for far!

C.G. Galloway wrote:

Hamas has no reservations or conscience in targeting civilians/noncombatants in their "war" against Israel. Their outrage at one of their senior militant criminal members being surgically taken out is laughable.

Assuming it was the Mossad, the only action I find objectionable was the use of an ally's passports. Next time, add some satire -- use Iranian passports. ;-)

Abrantie:
Come on! That's called colllateral damage or friendly fire. Ask the Americans in Desert Storm. They smoked each other like peace pipes and had to resort to "enquiries" to figure out how their best friends died. For sure it wasn't Saddam Husein's Revolutionary Guards that killed them, but instead Michael from Texas.

Read up on Operation Entebbe. It is not friendly fire. It was IDF killing Uganda soldiers in other to rescues hostages.

You asked a daring question. I merely provided an answer.

Abrantie:
There are some aspects of Israelis I don't like, but I'd pick them to be on my team any day. Name any adverse historical action Israelis have taken against black Africa. I bet you can't find any.

Well it depends on what side of the fence you stand. The Operation Entebbe carried out by Mossad/IDF in Ugandan around the 70s killed Ugandan soldiers who are Africans. No?

There goes your claim up in the air.

I have a few speculative questions.

[b]So the British passport is hard to forge - We use Hologram instead of photos like some other nations - How did this go unnoticed by the Dubai authorities? If it is just one person, then I can understand, but as it stand 14 people in about a space of a week or so entered Dubai with fake passport. Is Dubai's airport security that lax? Or could it be they just turned a blind eye?

If this attack was carried out by Mossad, why will they [Israel] use the identities of Israelis? The last time they did something like this Canadian passport was used. Could it be someone or some group trying to make it look like Israel was responsible?


The Dubai authorities are yet to say anything officially, however the Police chief in Dubai already said he is "99% if not 100% certain that it was carried out by Mossad". This sound like giving up hope of finding the killers and laying the fault squarely at the feet of Mossad without a proof.

The western media have been careful in their reports of the incident - letting readers know that Israel is a suspect but nothing more. Yet on contrast, the papers in Middle east and Arab world are reporting that Israel DID do it. So what is going on?[/b]


PS
I am merely asking speculative question. I am not saying I know for sure.

davidylan:
He was lured to Dubai by the same killers on the belief that he was going to meet an arms dealer.

Again proof?

Look not to dwell into lengthy debate. All reports are not-confirmed in anyway, that are suspicions and allegations based report. The only that is we know as a fact is that a man is dead and fake passport was involved.

Abrantie:
What else could he have been doing there? Have you ever been to the West Bank? They are mad poor. There is absolutely no way he could have just been on vacation with wife and kids in expensive DUBAI.

Are you kidding me? The Hamas leader even have a personal body guard according to what was published in the news papers. The point is that you original had so much convictions and authority that one will think you have a conclusive proof. Yet when pushed a bit for proof, you have nothing. Let us not present unconfirmed report as facts. They are totally different things.

Abrantie:
He was in Dubai to buy arms meant to kill Israelis.

Proof?

naija_swag:
No be God people.they have already gotten away with it.Who be you to prosecute Israel,unless you want the wrath of God period.

Are you serious? So I guess a Muslim suicide bomber is right to take out infidels as well, so as to get reward of virgins in heaven?

pcmecom:
Are you a gentleman?

I am ElRazur.

I am not sure if you think my reply was directed at you. If you do, then I must say it wasn't. My reply was more a Satirical humour at those who have made such claims of "USA behind haiti earthquake". Surely, if they have that kind of weapon, it makes sense to use it than go to war?

PS
I have noting against you.

Why should they [Americans], when they can use their Haarp weapon to cause earthquake to Iran? Makes no flipping sense.

presido1:
@Elrazur,

The diplomatic bruhaha is just a smoke screen. They are all involved if u get what i mean. Israeli envoy in UK is in meeting with the FM in london as i write. They know themselves and will wave everything good bye when the time comes.

Oga, there is not even any kind of Bruhaha. May be just the media making a fuss about it. All what have been asked of the Israeli ambassador is just to clear things up. I.e if they are involve or not.

You are right though, the UK and US stand much to lose if they make any threat towards Israel - Assuming they did it. There is too much at stake to allow the death of someone perceived as terrorist by all the parties involved to be honest. The ambassador for Israel and other government minster are probably laughing over a bottle of champagne and smoking there cigars. lol.

bibiking1:
IMO this is a set-up! Israel is being framed.

Well there have been reports that it may well be [Unconfirmed]. However, it should be noted that the Israeli press have said it was carried out by mossad - this proves nothing and it could well be newspaper selling antics.

Also there are other reports or claim that it is a "collusion" i.e it was something done with the knowledge of the USA, UK and Israel. Why? It was alleged that British passport use hologram image [this is true] and it is something very hard to forge. So according to the claim made, the passport would only have been made with the help of the British.

Credit card used by one of the alleged assassin was apparently issued in America etc.

In all honesty, the story is not about to go away and I am not sure if anyone will officially claim responsibility for the killing or anyone found to be involved.


Reports and claims taken from:   http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-britains-explanation-is-riddled-with-inconsistencies-its-time-to-come-clean-1902994.html

jidsoon:
Make no doubt, Shell/BP. She owns the pumping heart of our economy. As I have said in several articles, there are international conspiracies to "DEFRAUD" Nigeria by any means neccessary. The FrenchTotal), BritishBP), ItalianAGIP), DutchSHELL), NigeriaCONOIL), USATEXACO), and GermanyJulius Berger) are poised to defraud Nigeria at any cost. Now Jonathan wants to sell more oil blocks, instead, our oil, gas, and other natural resources should be national

Another "When all fails, blame the Western world or some conspiracy to get a poor developing nation post"!

It is good to point fingers at others, but not take a look at yourself? Nice.

I have always thought Nigeria belongs to Nigerians? But thanks for sharing your insight with me.

Qs&As

Questions and answers: What do we know so far about the Dubai assassination?

Q. What exactly happened to Mahmoud al-Mabhouh?

A. When the Hamas militant arrived in Dubai, he may have believed he was there to meet an Iranian arms dealer. Six hours later, he was dead, assassinated after a sophisticated operation involving 18 people. The hit squad had arrived in Dubai the previous day. After tailing Mabhouh from the airport, CCTV footage shows two of the group entering a hotel lift with him; one then followed him to find out in which room he was staying. Shortly afterwards, another operative booked the room opposite for that night. When the target left his room, four men crossed the corridor to break in, while others stood guard in the lobby. Mabhouh returned at 8.24pm; police say he was asphyxiated soon after. His killers left the hotel about 20 minutes later.

Q. Who were the people behind the operation, and why were there so many?

A. One theory suggests that having lured Mabhouh to Dubai on the pretext of an arms sale, the hit squad had expected him to be accompanied by a security team, who would also need to be eliminated. The identities of the assassins remain a mystery. All the passports of the initial batch of 11 suspects have been declared fake. So far seven people living in Israel, including Britons, have said that their identities were stolen, adding fuel to theories that Mossad was behind the assassination. Yesterday the existence of seven more suspects emerged: of those, two are believed to be Palestinian and are in custody; the other five, one of them a woman, used EU passports.

Q. Why would Israel want Mabhouh dead?

A. The Palestinian had admitted to a role in the deaths of two Israeli soldiers in 1989 during the first Intifada, and still played a senior role in Hamas. There has been speculation that he was at the top of a "hit list" of militants believed to be dangerous to Israel. And while the Netanyahu government yesterday said there was no proof that Mossad was behind the assassination, it refused to refute the accusation, citing a "policy of ambiguity". Some commentators in Israel have called for the head of Mossad to resign. The counter-argument is that the Dubai operation appeared too ham-fisted to be the work of Mossad, and that it is instead the work of Israel's enemies seeking to discredit the Netanyahu government.

Q. If firm evidence emerges implicating Israel, what will the consequences be?

A. The potential for diplomatic fall-out is clear, with Gordon Brown demanding an inquiry yesterday into how British passports came to be used. There have been similar concerns voiced in Dublin and Paris. The Dubai authorities are inevitably furious at the idea of the country being used as a staging ground for assassinations. Even Vienna has been dragged in, with the hit squad using pre-paid Austrian mobile phone numbers. Israel is already feeling the international heat after the critical Goldstone report into its conduct during the Gaza war, and will not want its critics to have more ammunition.

Taken from: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/death-in-dubai-the-plot-thickens-1902987.html

It should be noted that these are not confirmed reports, but reports made on claims and possible known information I think.