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Mikeansy,

I was driving about 3months ago listening to a radio program - lbc 97.3 to be specific. One of the Muslim scholar here in the UK was interviewed and when asked to condemn violence, he refused point blank. If a respect scholars [respected among the muslim scholars here] can come out and refuse to condemn the use of violence by Muslims, then it is clear to deduce that they do encourage violence in one way or the other.

Besides, violence forms the bedrock of Islam founding values. Period.

For me the good things like the culture [Rich traditional culture I am talking about here], the social life et al are chronically and constantly overshadowed by Embezzlement, corruption, lack of common sense, laziness, the love for not wanting to develop mentality, illiteracy, tribalism, questionable love of alien Gods and religion, hatred of criticism, animosity, mismanagement etc.

So yeah in some ways, I do see where you are coming from.

I wonder where are those blind patriots of Nigeria. I wonder what they have to say. Giant of Africa my flipping backside.

How was the site hijacked? Do we have proper IT capable people actually working for the government?

Bleep who ever wrote that and Bleep you [b]ifeleke [/b]for posting. How the Bleep can you state the obvious man? How the Bleep can you criticize the giant of Africa. Bleep you man.

I think you should read this instead. It is much more informative I got some great tips from there too.

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An admission of vote-rigging?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article6553843.ece

Looks like it to me.

In 50 Iranian cities the number of votes cast in this month presidential election exceeded the number of eligible voters, the state's election watchdog admitted today.

The surprising admission by the Guardian Counci[/b]l was, however, designed to undermine the claims of the defeated candidates that the vote was rigged.

How the heck can one have more votes than voters? I have a feeling [b]RichyBlack would provide an answer.

RichyBlack, why do you deemed Chinese as racist and irrelavant? Or am I missing the sarcasm?

chidichris:
@ElRazur,
i can take everything u have said here but not this comment above.
were u there when nigerians vote them into power?
these are millitary civilains who seized power by force and have decided to rule over us even without our consent.

But depending on how you look at it. Democracy is in nigeria, the present and pasr leader where picked by a system of what we called democracy.

@Topic.

Say what?

Anyway, I once had relationship with a Chinese girl and damn, she was the bomb!

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Check here. Loads of naija girls looking for the same thing

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presido1:
Dude its more easy to check if the driver is under the influence of alcohol than to check every passenger for seat belt inside a molue and more over seat belt can never work in molue unless you are talking another kind of molue that am not aware of. How can you enforce seat belt in a situation where 30 passengers gets off and another comes in every 5-10 minutes. Again no where in this world you will see seat belt in such commuter buses like molue or TFL. We have to prevent the accident from happening first and we can only do that through the driver and govt(Gud road).

Oga I see you point. And I have to agree as it won't be practical. However a speed reduction comes to mind.

They are not, when you see one stop him and ask.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/AdviceOnKeepingYourVehicle/DG_4022064

The law requires that drivers and passengers aged 14 and over in cars, vans and other commercial vehicles must wear a seatbelt if available. As a driver you are responsible for ensuring that anyone under the age of 14 wears a seat belt or use an appropriate child restraint as required in the regulations

I rest my case.

Oboy must you quote UK in every of your post?

Lol. It annoys me that these folks over here do not have two heads or multiple brains, I see no reason why we cannot achieve the same thing. But once I look back on how we have sometimes held ourselves back from developing the anger, frustration and lack of sympathy kicks in again lol.

I made reference to the UK because, here is where I stay and I believe that if we have to better ourselves, we need to compare or at least learn from a "better place" . . so to speak.


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Dis Guy:
Yes it is but you'll notice unlike the US, they call off car chase when lives are at risk, they turn to technology, CCTV, car registration address or just put it on the file for another day and then add it to your profile.

Agreed. But then this is Nigeria, where nothing is impossible, especially on a negative side. Like I said before, the driver should have stopped instead of trying to get away from them. I am sure he probably knows that these folks are like pack of Hyenas and would not stop until what they get whatever they are after.

if the cars are without address chances of spotting it at a later date is even higher, they usually ply the same route. a picture of the driver, distinct dent on the car would have been enough. and with all the money they are collecting as fines, mandating all commercial vehicles in the state to register within six months wont be a big problem. leader are just not creative imagine the amount of people that can be employed inputting car reg/insurance/tax data into the system in the whole country so many avenues to generate money and create employment very incompetent frsc people! they just wear uniform feeling powerful in the scorching heat!

While I see your point, these are some of the many things that frustrate me about Nigeria, and people wonder why some of us are angry.

chidichris:
@ElRazur,
who are u angry with? the dead passangers? the driver or the frsc? or are u angry with the govt of the country for not providing adquate resqcue facilities?
or could it be that you are angry with those of us here who happens to be nigerians which is not by choice?

Trying to make me shift my position wont work am afraid. My anger is about everything Nigeria stands for. My anger is born out of frustration and what appears to be a lack of progress in most places.  

Remember the people voted the same govt into power etc.

presido1:
How many public vehicle in UK have seat belt? I mean all those TFL buses that covers the same distance like molues in Lagos. The only public vehicle that enforce seat belt in UK are those that go intra-city like National Express and other coaches that runs on hire. Even the white van drivers that do drop off are not enforced to put on seat belt.

Let us be fair shall we. The TFL buses have restriction on them, hence the lack of seat belts.

White van drivers are bound by law to wear their seat belts. No excuse. Unless of course there is something I am not aware of.

Seat Belt is not the solution as far as molue is concerned. Curbing reckless driving, drink driving, Goad roads, qualified drivers will go a long way is reducing the number of accidents in lagos roads.

I agree. My approach was a simple one that can be easily checked by officers etc. It is more visible to see if a seat belt is on, than trying to catch if a driver is under the influence.

This kind of accident is what you get when your transportion is being managed by Agberos. I say ban ban ban all those molues and bring in more BRT buses.

Again I agree to some extent. An outright ban won't work, it would almost collapse the transport network in somewhere like Lagos and other commercial cities. A gradual phasing out may be a better option. Which can be achieved via bringing in other alternatives like you mentioned.

Limiting the speed is another good thing but who will enforce it, Nobody!.

It can be easily fitted on any car. Japanese cars comes with them - My FTO I bought directly from japan, years back was restricted to 105mph or so, even though it is capable of speeds in excess of 140ish plus mph. In fact, Japanses have all their cars restricted to 105mph.

Remember the new Nissan GTR? It is restricted electronically to that speed as well even though it can reach speeds close to 200mph. However, the electronic restrictions turns it self off, once you are on a race course. Not to digress, but the point is that it could be easily fitted on existing cars.

Dis Guy:
Hold it.  .  .

which of the two things youve highlighted is the responsibility of the poor passengers?
is it the passenger that is meant to check the driver is qualified?
are the passengers responsible for enforcing seat belts?

Out of anger of hearing, seeing and witnessing these sort of things. I have no sympathy

Dis Guy:
actually the sanity of the FRSC should be caled into question lagos is not exactly somalia, and its not like molues operate outside lagos,
why cant they just get the picture or registration number of the molue- either wait  to see it another day, trace it to the registered address
is it really sensible to chase a heavy bus in a congested city like Lagos with bad roads and very high pedestrians

_{is the frsc not the same as lastma}

IN the UK, failing to stop when asked to do so by a man/officer representing the law is actually a criminal offence. I would think, Nigeria have similar laws. If he had stopped, perhaps these could have been averted?

As for tracing the address, Nigeria's system is not as advanced like we would all like. Some of these cars have been on the road for like 20years or so, way before the advent of using a simplified data base of registered owners in Nigeria.

Lol.


See this is the precise mentality one is most likely to face in Naija - Not saying that is your mentality in any way.

It appears we would take profit over simple common sense that would save loads of lives. If there is a seat belt on board, at least those people would be strapped to the sit when there is accident [thereby help reducing internal stress and damage, AND reduces bones breaking etc.] The passengers standing are on the other hand are accident prone.

In the UK, a public vehicle with passengers standing on board have limited speed. While those with seat belts have no room for standing passenger by law. I think we can learn from the UK, after all they invented the seat belt [if memory serves me right]

Abuzola:
This happen near my area , atleast 27 people were reported dead and it was a Road safety that pursue the moluwe which made it to fall in a ditch at ILE ZIK near ajayi farm

If this is true, what was the driver thinking? How do you outrun a Road Safety officer in one of those things? Unless off course, these officers are on foot or something.

Democracy? A nation have the right to outline things that may be contrary to her culture, tradition and general feel of the public.

Is it degrading to women? I am not sure, however it was done as part of "control" of the Islamic cultures over women.

For Bleep sake. Can you not do a simple search? There are at least three threads or so already discussing the Iran's issue. Besides, this particular topic have been mentioned in one of them.

chidichris:
govt self. no rescue. may God help us

One of the parameters to judge a civilised nation is how well it caters for her citizen. Or how basic care are provided. I suppose this leaves lot to be desired.

When people refuse to move and develop with time. Shi.t like this happens. To be brutally honest, I have little or no sympathy for anyone of them.

Simple things that could have avoided this is as follows:

Seat belt - We recently bought a ford transit bus from here that is meant for Nigeria. The thing I noticed is how ever one of the 15 seat have a seat belt fitted as standard. I mean, how hard would it be to enforce people to use seat belt?

Qualified drivers only - How many drivers on Nigeria's road would take  British driving test and actually pass? It is ironic that British roads are well paved and tarred, yet they have a rigourous driving test one have to pass before becoming a qualified and licensed driver. Yet on contrast, Nigeria's road network is nothing to write home about, but we have millions of unsuitable cars and unqualified drivers.  It is disgusting that with the right price, one can obtain a drivers licence in Nigeria without even sitting a test.

For me the last option is the most important as it would help people to be road aware etc. It is scary how people drive on Nigeria's road like they have a spare life in a savings account somewhere.


As far as am concerned, until we elevate our thinking and what not, these sort of news would be a regular occurrence.


PS
While the govt. may not ban these sort of vehicles outright, at least they can have "Speedometer restriction" on them. I.e restricted to something like 50km per hour. This action alone would go a long way to help reduce incidence like this.

Good idea. However, flawed thinking! Japan do not have chronic problem of ethnic divide, different languages etc. Besides, they have something in their tradition called "Honour" this have worked to their advantage in getting them to where they are now. Nigeria do not have this.

lalaboi:


WELL AM LAFFN LOL

Me too lmao.

SeanT21:
I almost fell into the trap. Thank God I scrolled down.

That is not funny.

Well done you.

I see that all questions remained unanswered AGAIN. My questions are still open and posed to you, but until you can muster some answers. . . . Good riddance.

So you have no proper contribution to make apart from bickering? Nice.

Let me try again.

Now that the supreme leader have come out to blame the UK, I wonder what is your view? Do you not think that a nation with 70% of under 30s should be wary of inciting situation like this? After all, the younger generation wants a new change that the old mullahs and ayatollahs do not want. Something have to give, or do you not agree?

I may not be up to date as you, but seeing that you support Iran through and through, can you explain to me as to how the UK have a part to play in all of these?


Read below and tell me your take on it?

Iran's supreme leader has issued a stern warning that protests against the country's disputed presidential election results must end.

In his first public remarks after days of protests, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the outcome had to be decided at the ballot box, not on the street.

He said political leaders would be blamed for any violence.

Demonstrators calling for a new election earlier vowed to stage fresh protests on Saturday.

But the governor of Tehran province, Morteza Tamadon, has said no permission has been given for such a rally and he hoped it would not be held.

lalaboi:
But its bad when you have to shut down all the tabs. . . .i was working with lik 7 tabs . . . .razur. . .

I am mad at you for clicking a link that comes with a warning. Do you sex a kitten that drips with puss? God punish you. lol.

PS
Love you too.

@Afam. Less bickering please. I dare you to actually make PROPER contribution to this thread at hand. You can start by answering the questions I posed at you from the very beginning. It would be nice to see your superiority that you referred to.

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