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bk.babe97y:
And, how long did it take you to scour the dictionary for you to find the appropriate "big words" in which to use to buttress your invalid points?!

Ok, lets start from the beginning of your ".O.A" argument:

   So, since the thread is "about Saudi", if a person tries to put forth a counter-argument but needs to use another country (i.e the U.S) to support his/her point in order for it to make sense, it is not allowed?

    The thread is not about Saudi as u so falsely, and wantonly claim, this thread is about a Saudi man in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,so, u would agree with me that its about the U.S as much as it is about Saudi. Further, u made a claim by using Saudi as an example, I countered that claim, using the United States to show that both countries arent that distinct in that their laws are based on the Holy books whether Christian or Muslim. . . . .

Grade A Filth.

Since you have claimed you followed my post on the forum, I guess it would have occurred to you that my post is consistent with my manner of posting. You see, your inability to perhaps not understand some of my phrases are your problem, not exactly mine. You see, anyone with half-a-brain can actually read and comprehend what I am saying. Smh.

Captain obvious, everyone knows what the thread is about, but if you want to be obtuse in order to give yourself a false-feeling of making a valid point, please be my guest.

Besides, I do not "claim" you hate Muslims, I do KNOW you hate Muslims. Remember, Ive read your previous posts. . . .

This is just another of you filth. Yes you claimed I hate Muslims, there isn't anything I have posted that suggest I hate Muslim. You see, I do not know the school of thought you come from or subscribe to. However, speaking out or being vocal is not the same as hating. I suppose little distinctions like this really confuses you. The is just you low IQ coming into play at best.

No, I dont get it! Your using such phrases, PRE-EMPTIVELY , just shows that ure either a wannabe or an unapologetic Jew defender and Islamic Hater!

The price of tea in china. Dude your logic is one funny one. How did you arrive at Jews and hating Islam in a thread about Saudi/Gay person? I want whatever you are smoking.

I claimed? I claimed? lol. The laws of the U.S are mostly borrowed off the Bible just like the Saudis base theirs on the Quran! My beef with you is your attitude (and that of most semi-illiterates that think they know a lot, when they infact know nothing) of applying a double standard just cus u hate the other party. This is the same problem I have with the Biafrans on here! "They are bad just cus I hate them even though in reality we're actually doing the same thing"!!!

Yes you claimed. Do you mind posting a proof to back this up?  Laws such as do not kill and do not steal are more or less social laws and has been in existence way before the holy books, but it will be interesting to see what you come up with on this one. On contrast, the Saudi based most of their laws on the interpretation of the Quran, and even run an Islamic form of government. And this is why I really do not see how US comes into play. Homosexuals are not haunted down or killed in the US - Their rights are guaranteed by the state, however this is not the case with Saudi Arabia. So I really fail to see how you will link the two.

On a side note, it is your problem if you have a problem with me you see.

 

What would u call the laws of the United States being that its background is Christian? You dont know? lol. But what would you call that of the Saudis, being that its background is Muslim, and you hate them, and you know that the term "Islamic Law" (or "any religion" law) strikes fear in the hearts of men far and wide? You get where Im coming from, now? Oh, of course u wont! If the Saudis, based on their applying laws from the Quran, are running a "Muslim Govt", could u honestly say (with a straight face) that the U.S and most Western European countries who build their foundation on the basis of the Bible are not running Christian governments? Ah, why, cus the Western Media (which u were so quick to name check) doesnt say so?

Dude you really are thick in the head. Religion is given a big preference over common sense in most Religion based-type of government (Saudi). Whereas, in the western world (USA) there is a separation of State and religion, and mostly Secular. Seriously, your points here are just daft and full of meaningless garbage.

Dude, before you come at me in an argument do a proper research and stop letteing the rest of us atheist look bad. A real atheist does not "choose sides"; we remain on the sidelines and let the "God-believers" sort themselves out. As long as ure an unapologetic Jew, and Christian defender (and a Muslim hater) your true intentions have been exposed and all u gotta do now is to start observing the Sabbath and going to Church every sunday. . . . Oh, and if ure a Catholic, the habitual molestation of innocent lil' boys. . . . . . . .

So you ended your rant with something about Jew, Christians and Sexxxual molestation happenings in the Catholic church?    Dude, that is like the price of tea in china and the price of a tokunbo car in Belgium. They have no correlation whatsoever.

Dude, keep talking. You really are making little or no sense.

Dayokanu, my questions appears to go unanswered.  

bk.babe97y:
Nah, son, dont tell me when to "keep" or stop talking! I'm enjoying the intellectual molestation Im putting u thru! Seems like u aint been spanked since the day u joined this forum; now u bout to get lights shut.

   I dont know how dumb u r (I'm guessing "very", but, the botom-line is most countries base their laws (to a large/certain extent) on teachings of the holy books! Ure a atheist that hates Muslims! Sure! You said the Saudi laws are based on the Quran, I didnt argue! I said most of the U.S laws/Constitution are based on the teachings of the Bible; u throw a fit and try to impress me that u know the words "Bogey", "Zionist", "Western Media". . . . Who cares about all that crap? Shows that u were waiting to take the convo that route (by the way why are all your posts about Jews, Zionist, conspiracy theories ect---- seems to me like u got a problemo). Dropping pseudo-intelligent sounding words and making valid arguments are two very seperate things------ do urself a world of good and try to make the distinctions!

Intellectual spanking? Dude, no offence but you lack what it takes.

How smart are you to realise that this thread is actually about Saudi. I opted to point this out to you since you seem to have a problem with my post. Secondly, you appear to have made some illogical assumptions: Yes, I am atheist, but claiming I hate Muslims without no proof whatsoever just goes to show the class of smartness you belong, and your level of IQ. Very low at best. Having said that, that is your prerogative, not mine.

Back to my point, you then opted to make some points that are more or less weak and in most cases unrelated to the discussion at hand. Again I pointed this out, but it appears to hit a nerve that you had to act up. For the record, when I use phrases like Bogey media and western and Zionist regime, I am pre-empting all your logics before hand. Get it?

You claimed the laws of the US are based on the bible, yet you ignore the fact that Saudi runs a different version of government from the US. Islamic type of government runs in the Saudi Kingdom hence my comment about how it is based around Quran etc. I guess this goes way past your head and you see the need to show you are a joke.

May be we got off the wrong start, but I will want you to point me to a valid contribution you may think you have made in this thread so far? Is it your first comments or the subsequent ones?

I read your post, hence why I called them filth. Your initial reply had nothing to do with the thread, same way the subsequent replies.  But yeah, keep talking.

I think you are actually forming in the mouth right now

So you posted filth that had nothing to do with the thread, in other to make some "GOD KNOWS WHAT" point. Then lacked the motive to engage logic once you got cornered.

As much as you are foaming in the mouth, I am glad you do read my post. Yes I am a fanatic, they call my type Aggressive Atheist. Remember that.

bk.babe97y:
Based on your interpretation of what the media force-feeds u?

Will you disprove my statement or not, before blaming the bogey media and western world, plus the Zionist regime.

Before you side track the point, it is this ----> The laws of Saudi are fashioned mostly on what is in the Quran (or Islamic if you want). Please disprove this or shut up.

Orilee9ice:
elrazur, my point is are you doing yourself any favours by remembering the unpleasant past you have had, i think you you should be focusing on is if you have children, the same doesnt happen to them, i had an equally bad (if not worse upbringing too!) but i am making sure that it never happens to my kids,  which doesnt mean i am spoiling them rotten, hum they know me,

So you suggest I pretend it do not happen? Okay. I suppose the Jews should pretend holocaust never happened? Okay, mine and most who have stated their experiences here ain't like that of the holocaust but you get where I am going with this. Reflecting on stuff and talking about it makes us learn and heal. And I am not sure if you read this thread, I have stated that some of the things I talked about here WILL NOT happen to my kids. In fact, I am reiterating that where my Parents made mistakes, I shall make sure it is not repeated with my kids. Dunno what your point is about really.

Like someone once said, all of these experiences sharing is almost therapeutic - I agree.

LadyT:
@El it is painful but the key thing now is that it is all well and good us sitinng here myself included counting our parents faults etc.  But what exactly are we going to do to make sure we bring up decent human beings?

I have stated again that my bad experiences will not be passed on to my off-springs. I will however pass on what I perceive as the good ones. E.g I am an excellent cook, thanks to my same sister. While everyone else watches Voltron on tv, I am forced to stay in the kitchen and watch the pot. I picked up all the secret to good cooking and I am damn proud of that.

Will I pass this on to my kids? You damn right, but in a more educative way. I won't make them watch the pot cooking on the cooker, like I was in naija. You see these are the little things I will pass on to them.

I can tell you this no parent is ever going to be perfect

I agree. Same way, nothing is normal, nothing is perfect. My kids will moan about my ways at some point, but my aim is that it wont be like those horrible experiences that I had.

Orilee9ice:
seriously Man Mi, HAVE YOU, REALLY?, hummmmmmmmmmmmmm i wonder!

You know, it is best to actually stay silent if you really do not have something meaningful to say.

What exactly is your point?  

jay bee:
Omo mehn i feel like crying sha.
I'm fighting tears oh. I usually don't get this emotional.
Thank God for your life

Haha Big boy like you lol.

I talk about it as part of my coping mechanism and just reflecting on life in general. I have learnt a few thing just be reading up on people's experience here. If anything, this should be taken as a positive in my opinion.

LadyT:
@EL
Your childhood does not sound normal.  I notice you never mention your mother so obviously there was a lot going on there.  I think from the mistakes our parents made it should in turn should make us better parents.

In as much as I will disciple my children the way my mother discipled us.  I would want my children to be able to talk to me freely about anything.  I do not want to be having boyfriend coversations with a 12 yr old that is a no no.  But I would want them to have enough to courage to know that no matter how bad to talk to me a problem shared is a problem halfed

Nothing is normal. My mum died when I was one, (It could be worse, I could have been an orphan ). The point is I do have fond memories of childhood like most around here, it is just my teenage years that some of those things I mentioned happened. I suppose it is a phase in my life that I have gone past but reflecting it on it in this thread.

chuqudy:
Is that what your parents/guardians/elders did? Then, you must have come from a very bad tribe where hatred, weakedness and juju is the order of the day. Are you from the south west or  the north?

Try reading the thread. A lot have been said. Thanks for your input.

Orilee9ice:
Elrzur, can i just ask you, where was Morocco comprehensive (IF I REMEMEBR CORRECTLY FROM YOUR POST) in Jibowu, the sec school u went to?, i am not sure i knew the school back then, considering i went to Igbobi College which was literarily down the road?,  was it that school near or oppsite yaba tech?.4get its name now sef,

It was in the same compound as the following schools - Igbobi girls (The entrance was next to this one), Angus high school (I think it is now part of Morocco, but back then it was separate) and Igbobi boys.  

The main entrance is opposite the barracks in Jibowu.

LadyT:
I dont agree how many 3 year olds back in your day would dare smack their parent back?  Those who suffered abuse always go to the extreme and often refuse to disciple their kids Im not just talking about smacking alone.  Im talking about disciple talking to a child about why you had to smack them giving children warnings to behave before resulting to beating.  Children need structure

I do get your point. However, I would like to think my experiences counts as abuse or at least borderline-abuses. However, I disagree that it will have an impact on how I in-turn deal with my own off-springs (in the manner you are suggesting off course).  Again, I get your point, but I can only speak for myself. I am not an authority to defend how others raise theirs or what impact they have on their kids.

While children need structure no doubt, a few parents can do with parenting classes too. I think a lot of parent can do with having parental classes in naija in my opinion. So all in all both sides of the argument do need structure.

I really don't wanna talk about religion, but I think this is a bit vague:

“Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it” (Prov. 22:6)

Which is the way to go? In the eyes of my father his ways was the way to go, in the eyes of my sister (who so happen to be a Deaconess) her ways were the way to go.

Orilee9ice:
@Elrazur
Man Mi, i bet you didnt expect an avalanche of experiences when you started this did you?, its like opening up dead or healed wounds, hummmmmmmmm!

I honestly did. You are right lol. The thread died a few times and I had to bumped it up - You can tell from the first solo post I made lol. I do appreciate everyone putting their own account in, it put a lot of things into perspective. I would have think I had it bad, but there are others who have similar and stronger experiences. What ever the case, it is good people are talking about it in a mature way.

davidylan:
depends on what you call "abuse". When it comes to discipline, i'm glad my parents enforced it with all their strength . . . i'll be honest and say it worked! Was their some abuse along the way . . . sure but its since been dealt with and everyone has moved on now and buried the past.

I will not tolerate kids who think its OK to be rude to their parents, think its OK to throw tantrums, behave like they have no home-training all in the name of avoiding to "abuse" them. The bible says to "spare the rod and spoil the child" . . . the rod is also for the back of a fool . . . if you flog him, he will not die. Chikena.

As much as I agree with you most times, you do worry me with you bible-views at times.

The thing with the bible is that is says to beat (well not use the word beat, but it is clear what the message is about) but at what point does beating becomes abuse? My dad was a Senior Apostle, knows the bible like the back of his hand but sometimes when I reflect on some his beating session on me, I tend to think it is nothing but abuse at best. Is it okay to beat and leave massive mark, scare or deformities, just because the bible support physical discipline? Where does it stop?

As for kids throwing tantrum, come on now woli. Kids will always be kids. Surely at your time you threw a few episode of it. I think this is why I get worried, your view is somehow not taking into consideration that kids will be kids simply because of your unshaken belief in the words of the bible.

LadyT:
The problem we now have is many people are not raising their children the right way because they had a tough childhood. Even though some had extreme childhoods they now cannot give their own children a balanced upbringing. Children are out of control nowadays

I think the ratio of those who have a "normal" upbringing out stands those who didn't.

I think kids have always been "out of control nowadays" from the time of your great grandfather, my grandfather, you father and now my generation. I have no problem with discipline, but I have a problem with abuse. Besides, one should be able to relate to one kids in such a way there is a balanced approach. My two cents.

jay bee:
@EL
I did london to sunderland 2 weeks ago and i was like WTF, i def ain't doing this again.
Drove for 8 hrs combined all in a single day
PS: Sunderland is like 15 miles from Newcastle
I swear you don try. Your NL bravado aside, you are a very genuine nice person cos me i don't think i can forgive such.

I had four of us in the car, me, my sister son (nephew) and two of his uni friends who packed like they are going on an expedition. I spend over 150pounds on Pertol alone, minus the break fast and lunch we had on the motorway. Oh, and I had to drive back same day. Omo I will NEVER do that again.  The thing be say if i don put am for National coach, e go cost me 6pounds. Six freaking pounds lol. But I figured he knows no one up there and he may no understand the accent etc, also I thought taking him will let him see UK etc.

Thanks man. (But no dey talk like that for here. I am perceived as a bad man, so no spoil my NL rep jare lol)

Ujujoan:
Look at it this way. She had her own children, her own responsibility . . only to have you thrusted uopn her. She was prolly taking out her frutrations on you. While that was veeeeeeeery wrong, you can at least try to see things from her own perspective!

She still thinks that the little resources she had to spend on you was a huge sacrifice on her part.

Honestly, I think you guys should talk about it!  

You really cannot force a horse to drink. I tried doing that last time, but once again she played the "kids and husband" cards. What more can I do?

oyb:
i guess your sister is entertaining the elusion and passing it on - that she is responsible for what you are today that you are ungrateful because u now have money etc etc

sadly, its also something we sometimes see when relatives take in wards in order to 'better' them - the wards become househelps in all but name. the very smart ones make it in spite of this - and the relatives then  try to take credit for these achievements

Yes. You are correct. But she is wrong. I was born here, and just so happen to live in naija after mum died. I partly went to a public school and whatever I am today, am sorry she deserves no credit whatsoever for it.  Not to sound like I am bragging, if I am not an intelligent person, I would have suffered as a result of how she messed me up in my opinion.

I really still do not know why my dad allowed me to go and live with her, he was doing well in lokoja, but just one day decided to offload me over to lagos without no explanation. Smh.

Ujujoan:
Okay El, I understand. It's worse cos she's not owning up to her mistatkes and is even involving her kids! I honestly do not care about her, it's you I'm worried about. Are you reaaly going to live the rest of your life having squabbles with your sister and her kids? Won't your own kids pick up on the whole thing? Don't you think it'll affect them?  

Isnt there a way to avoid all of that?  

I'm not sure there is a squabble as such, I am more or less dealing with people I get along now. The only thing is that I communicate less with her, but more with her kids. It is the best I can do. You cannot force a horse to drink water jare you see. To be honest, I am happier that way and no I am not lying.

Ujujoan:
Lol 

Photography is good, really good. But you are not actually dealing with the problem. You are just hiding behind the wild life and camera!

I still say you reach out to your sister. I can hold your hand if you want   

I agree, it is a coping mechanism I have in place. I really have let it go, however talking about it makes me upset and relieved at the same time. I guess the upset comes in as a result of Sister STILL not seeing the error of her ways.

Take for example, her son was here for some exchange programme with the One UK university. I drove him all the way from London - Newcastle (He had friends with him) and I paid for his accommodation and gave him money etc. He stayed with me and what not. I mean, anyone who drive will tell you London - Newcastle is very far. And I mean very far.

All of the above are no biggies for me, but my sister did come across like I owed her or something, and to make matters worse (for reasons I dont wanna go into) her son pissed me off and starting to get involve. Whatever the case, she's made it hard for me to have a relationship with her, and my fear is that she is putting that same poison in her kids. I have vowed on my life that the whole hatred things stops on me and it will never go another generation, but someone my sister is starting to be successful in getting her kids involve.

What was my point again? Can remember lol. Playing pro online jare.

Ujujoan:
Yea, and I really do hope you listen to some of the suggestions you are getting here. I'm actually a bit worried about you.    

A lot of people read and take things away which sometimes are used positively. I am good. Heading out in the evening to take some wild photography, so yeah am good.

The parasitic mentality.

The chaos of everyday life that is like an uglier version of rat race.


The unwillingness to get the push to change.

Ujujoan:
lol

I guess in a way, this could be therapeutic!

It is, getting people to talk about it is a massive step forward in the right direction.

mädchen:
Hey, ElRazur, are you getting help or talking to anyone about your experiences? These set of people had a hold on you when you were young and defenseless, and holding on in anger and unforgiveness still gives them the power over you! (Even if it's not in the same way) Please share and talk to someone and be completely healed (((((hugs))))

**Hugs back**

Not really, I just tend to channel them into doing something productive.  For example, after posting here, I just went into the nature reserves to take some bird photos. Helps me cope and deal with it.

mothersjoy:
Elrazur, the reasonable ones have to stop ie the disciplinarians. As the children grow up it is reasonable to assume that the children are better aware of the error of their ways and they are corrected in words rather than trashing. Some parents wait until they get into a physical with their kids and the child has the upper hand. This happened to an uncle of mine. Others get really verbally abusive and demeaning that their adult children stop speaking with them then you know the oppressive abusers.

I think by the time they stopped, the damage is already done. Also most of them only stopped because age caught up with them (You can still tell in their voice you that they wish they were in control)

Most of these damage are almost irreparable and sows a seed that most likely will give out negative result. I am a good example of that, I did not attend his funeral because of what I experienced from him. And as it stand, it will probably be the same with my Sister IF attempts are not made to reconcile etc.   You see, I am speaking from the heart and it is clear to see that I have hatred and unwillingness to probably forgive sown in me towards these set of people.

Ujujoan:
Yea, I never really understood why it was such a crime to mention your birthday to anybody back then!  

Birthday celebrations were not accepted. I remember when my sister once tried to 'rebel' by saying that that day was her birthday, she got serious beating and we were all banned from mentioning that word 'birthday'. I grew up not knowing any of my sibling's birthdays or my parents'. Sometimes I even forgot my own birthdays!  

That was an unjustified act. My dad would use every opportunity to host parties back then but when it came to his children's birthday's he just wouldnt hear of it. I really wonder why!  

About 4 years ago, my BF then insisted on throwing me a birthday party. I felt out of sorts cos it was the firt time in my life I was celebrating my birthday.    

Yeah that is another thing that I experienced too. My dad only ever celebrated my birthday once, and it felt more like it was his party than it was mine. I had little say etc.

Up till now, I do not celebrate anything like that. I had my first degree and what not, and I just phoned to check my results. Didn't even turned up for graduation lol. I suppose it is one of those thing that I grew up with that is now manifesting itself all over again. I am currently doing another degree and I swear to god, I will party till I collapse on this one.   (Still not keen on birthdays though) lol

Ujujoan:
Don't you understand? This is the Nigerian system. Even in schools, you got beaten back then for unjusitified reasons. Serious beating oh, with koboko. It's not like it was just a few parent's thing, it was a general thing. Their parents did it to them and they felt it was thrie right to do it to their children.

If you try to complian to an uncle or aunt, they themselves will give you the beating of your life.

Nobody would intervene with that cos it's just the way the system works!  

I agree. I think what I am saying is that there is a market screaming out demand for such services, but as you rightly pointed out, it will be difficult to get implement due to the society itself.

mydreamz:
You got me wrong am not in support of him beating those kids, I cant just imagine him cooling down to that extent.
If you had known him back in the days, you wont believe its the same person now.
All am saying is that he has changed and he really realised his whooping was bad, cos whenever the three of us kids are talking about the trashing we got from him, he is always quiet, only my mum makes some random remarks.

Okay, I don get you now.

My dad became relaxed too over the years, I guess their limbs and stamina ain't as powerful and flexible as before and hence forced to slow down by the ageing process.

mydreamz:
My dad that believes (and i think he derives pleasure) so much in whooping children, can no longer beat again.
Imagine a J.s3 student called him balddy, in the school he owns and he could do anything about it.
His excuse: >>>" you know kids of these days, you never know the evil spirit they have in them. They are possed" Am old now I just want to enjoy the my last years in peace" *KMT*

Like you never called anyone names while you were growing up? You know, kids will be kids. While it may be wrong, we need to strike a balance between letting kids be kids etc. You dad did the right thing in my opinion. Instead of beating, detention etc works better.

mädchen:
That's just CRAZY evil. I really wonder what all these parents were thinking then? Beating a child who's ill and has a fear for needles into submission. Unbelievable. They must have been abused by their own parents too. If anything, this thread is allowing people to share and opens the door to healing, and this vicious and silly cycle of believing that a kid has to be beaten will be broken. Hope we can all understand that we are meant to protect our kids, and not oppress them. There is a lot wrong with our society today! I wonder why? So much for charity begins at home.

The homefront seems to be the cruelest place of all. So so so sad!

I agree.

In the UK, injections are not allowed on kids, unless absolutely necessary.  

In Scotland, child smacking is illegal. But the rest of England, it is allowed but you should not leave a mark or scare as it amounts to Grievous/Actual bodily harm.


While I am not advocating that we should change and embrace the UK way, I think systemic education will go along way. From my point of view, those sort of treatments are wrong and in most cases counter productive. For instance, it is not uncommon during the time I was growing up to lie because I am worried about the consequence of what will happen to me, and as such, out of fear I tell further lies to hide what I did. This messes up a kid's or young person mentality and judgement at times, and it is common to see this in everyday practice in almost all place in naija.


While I recognised that this thread is not a mouth-piece for most of Nigerians, it sort of make me wonder while courses like Social Work/Child care aint thriving in Naija. (Saw a thread the other day while someone who had a good degree in Social work was unable to find a job) Because clearly, there is a need for social intervention. I will use my case as an example and say, I would have run to such intervention if it were readily available while I was growing up in naija. My two cents.

I take god beg una, can we not bring religion into this? It will turn the debate on its head.

It is a bit weird we are expected to not act to what is normal human behaviour because of some book that was written long time. Anyway, I take god beg una lets discuss less of religion in this one.

Okija_juju:
ARGH!! My parents fuc'ked up on so many levels. Here are some crazy rules I never understood;



9. Video games are an abomination; O lord!! I remember going to visit my parents friends with em, and their kids would invite me to come join em in playing their video game, and I will respond with "NO! Thank you" ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!      

Same here. But guess what, I rebelled and quite rightly so. When most people get their first salary, they sometimes send it home etc. Me, my first salary in the UK, I take am buy a PS1 and 5 games.

The thing Parents never seem to grasp is that Video game helps with concentration, decision making, memory and helps with ability to use your thumbs and fingers well. Also, it takes kids away from the streets and less likely to get involve in shenanigans.

jay bee:
@El
Mehn dats some serious shitzo. I swear i don't think i can forgive someone like that.

Ok here is the reason why i don't think I've actually fully forgiven my dad even though the man died 13 years ago.
First of all, he is one of those useless men that think with their manliness alone (basically i was born and the man was never there).
Being the only boy in the house allowed me take nuff liverties such as demanding to be driven in a particular car and given a certain amount of money that some other families will probably feed on for the week as pocket money.

I think I'd just finished secondary school at the time and was getting ready to return back to the UK and must have offended my mum so bad for her to have reported me to my dad (this is a man i can actually count how many times i have seen him in my life).
That's how the man sent one of his drivers to come pick me up as he wanted to give me some presents for smashing my SSCE. When i got to his, i was asked to strip butt unclothed and the man beat me so bad i couldn't work for days.
That single event alone just made me X the man as one he was never their ad the only chance he had to make amendments he ruined it.

I agree man, I have tried to get her to see her ways but she hides behind her kids and get her Husband involved. Now, I love her kids to death and the last time one of the was in the UK, we all rolled together, and when I went naija too we all run around together and bash each other playing pro on ps3, hooking with ladies, you know all those fun stuff. I guess it is my own way of showing that I do not harbour any ill-feelings towards them. However, it hurts that my sister tries to avoid the situation by trying to get her kids to talk to me. I feel such things is wrong as it is my sister I have an issue with and not her kids.


As per your dad, damn man lol. It must be so hard man, I thought I was the only one who have ill-feeling towards my late dad. Lol. Nice to know that I am normal after all and just exhibiting normal human behaviours.

All in all, those experiences has been a valuable life lesson for most of us as we will end up in most cases giving our kids the best we can and not make those mistakes that we felt our Parents/Guardians made.