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stephendamsoho:
Plaetton, Humanistme, Adepeter2027, Randomperson, Ranchhoddas, Wirinet, hopefulLandlord

If the person I quoted can become an atheist.......... there's still hope for people like Analice107, Emmanystone, ishilove, lightblazingnow, Originalkalokalo etc

May your heart stop for ever mentioning me in this thread. May your tongue cleave to the roof of your mouth. And the instrument of death be prepared for you. Thunder go fire everything you put your hands into. Nonsense.

Ubenedictus:
the stupidity of this post becomes glaring when one realises that anyone who believes that Mary is a goddess is considered a heretic and ripe for excommunication in the Catholic Church.


why will you go to such length to accuse Catholics of things that is abhorrent to them and which they condemn? what kind of hatred will make you lie about what another man believe? why will you say they believe the very things they condemn?

you are just a liar and you know your father, the father of lies.

You are saying this to still pretend that Catholics don't worship Mary?

Listen, you know it, i know it, and every one who reads his or her Bible who also had been a Catholic knows that Mary is a goddess worshipped by Catholics, deny it all you want, the truth glares at your face.

Catholicism is Hellenism period.

stephendamsoho:
Plaetton, Humanistme, Adepeter2027, Randomperson, Ranchhoddas, Wirinet, hopefulLandlord

If the person I quoted can become an atheist.......... there's still hope for people like Analice107, Emmanystone, ishilove, lightblazingnow, Originalkalokalo etc

There's still hope for me to worship satan?

Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I wish to have a concseration with the person you quoted let's see if he knew who he was in Christ.

I need to know. So pls open a thread and mention both if us let's share our epiphanies.

Let's tell the world how we got born again. We remember our natural birthdays, i remember the message i listened that got me born again. I remember the chapter of the Bible. I remember who preached. I remember the day. It wasn't on a sunday service. Does he remembers his spiritual birthday, does he remember all these?

There's always an encounter, Something must happen to make one decide to turn away from his/her old ways and say, 'no more to this way, i take the other from henceforth.

Lets share our experiences as Christians. How God related with him while he was a Christian. His achievements as a believer. How many souls he won and got them established in Christ.

The Blood of Jesus is against you for putting my moniker close to a Satanist.

Ubenedictus:
your pastors are allowed to lead people to Christ but it is forbidden for Mary to do so.


what type of stupidity has fallen on Protestant Christianity?

Hahahahahahaha. Oh he meant it in that sense? I see. So a dead Mary led him to Christ?

2morogobeta:
did i kill my mummy with my words?

Yes you have. Although she is not dead now, but she will be as you keep killing her here.

Benbisco:
Pls give yourself a break. You are not responsible for your mother's death.

Her mother is not dead. The girl is on drugs. She has like 5 monikers she uses to open the same threads about her dead mother.

sKeetz:
are you the op, jesus christ or mohammed??

why cant you let them fight for themselves??

Jobless fanatic

Jesus is my Master and saviour, just like satan is yours.

Gggg102:
if you say you know by studying the Bible, that means you only know they were evil because they were in the law. and because the Apostles gave instructions against them.

how do you yourself differentiate good from evil, without any help from the law and without instructions from the apostles.


imagine you are in a land with no law, nobody has ever told you what to do and what not to do. what will you do and what will you not do.


okcornel's answers was better.

Your thinking is so warped that i feel pain while i read you.

What a guy. Wow.

Dnaz:
I love Mary . she led me to Christ
I love the Catholic church the true bride of Christ
I feel pity for you and other Protestants who are rebels

I know you love, but if you indeed have Christ you'd know she didn't lead you to Christ. At least not Jesus Christ of Nazareth, because He said, Come unto me all you who labour and are heavy laden. He didn't say come to me theough anyone.

Gerarahia.

All these long talk is unnecessary. Just be saved, be ready like the 5wise virgins, then wait. If death meets you waiting, good, you translate. But if rapture meets you waiting, better, you get caught up. Whatever happens, asin, if you miss rapture, by all means accept death, but don't accept the Mark.

superior1:
Card to show what?

That Christ knows him and that his name is writen in is written in the book of life.

Workless piple

butterflyl1on:
Who is Butterfly1oin?

Abeg correct it sharp sharp to Butterflyl1on

Hahahahabaha, na weytin make you loku me like zat?

Catholicism is a distinct religion with Mary as her goddess and the Pope as her high priest. She is not a Christian faith.

She is Hellenistic and pretending it is Christian doesn't change that. By her fruits we know her.

Babylon the great, the great harlot. Come out if her or perish with her.

MuttleyLaff:
He started his stunt, when he tried it on, earlier today claiming that, he is going to church

Well, that's not surprising, after all satan has his own Church. There are marine churches everywhere. They are Yahoo yahoo churches everywhere.

If he was going to a church where Jesus is Lord there and the Bible is a guide there, his words would have indicated that. The Master says out of the heart the mouth speaks.

He that is called of God, speaks the word of God, not call it a lie.

A man's words are the man, just like the word of God is God.

butterflyl1on:
Welcome to my world ooo. And he claims to go to church ooo. Makes me wonder what they teach him there or if he only goes to church to sell biscuits outside the church gate or if at all he even goes near anything called a church building.

He is the type who goes to church only to count the errors the minister makes in his tenses as he delivers his message. The content or Rhema of the Word fly over his head.

***Tarse everywhere.***

I want to sincerely thank Butterflyl1on, Muttleylaff, OkCornel and the rest of other Christian brethren for their patience in once again showcasing the dubiousness, lies,and the wrong intentional attempts of satan via his agents in this forum to present the Word of God as contradictory and lies when it is not. Once again, shame on satan.

You brethren just fulfilled this scripture;
Good News Translation 1 Peter 3:15
'But have reverence for Christ in your hearts, and honor him as Lord. Be ready at all times to answer anyone who asks you to explain the hope you have in you,'.

SO, I ASK;

Where are the wise atheists of Nairaland? where are the intellectuals? where are the disputers of the word of God? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1 Corinthians:1:20

I SAY, HE HAS.

You all just shut satan through his agents up. Every so called contradiction turned out a misrepresentation by satan.

Gggg102:
1. people today do not think it's evil.
our conscience is our natural good evil compass. if I feel something is good and you feel it's evil, how would that affect things.

in line with your point,

2. homosexuality was evil since beginning of time. so it did not require the law.
what about incest. it was allowed in the beginning how do we know it is evil. and cross dressing.
animal sacrifice was also before the law.


3. since we are not under mosaic laws, does that mean cross dressing, tattooing,... are acceptable?

4. since the law is not applicable to Christians, are they still required to pay tithe?

Now i see why Butterfly1ion said this is painful. With all they have been patiently explaining to you, you just run them. Chai.

Gggg102:
so some old testament laws are still relevant in new testament.


so we are no longer under the law, but some laws were still picked from the laws of Moses and given to us to follow?


so we still follow some mosaic law

Who is the US? You and who?

Gggg102:
who told you I am an atheist?

You are not? Wait!!!! What?. What are you, a satanist? Well, your speech betrays you.

Gggg102:
ohhh it's getting clearer now.


without the law, good people won't still kill, become homosexual, ...

law was for bad people
good people were good without the law

Na wao. Guy na weytin nah? Pls stop.

Gggg102:
so how do we as Christians determine what is right and what is wrong without the law?

(how do we know that homosexuality is good or bad, stealing is good or bad, fornication is good or bad without the mosaic law, without the letter of St. Paul and the apostles where they told us what what was good/bad. how do we differentiate between good and evil without the Bible in general?)

We know by studying the author's guide, the Bible.

Gggg102:
what battering?

he's just posting dumb memes
which by the way is making fun of okcornel's opinion

I never knew you were this slow. Chai.

Butterfly1on thanks for your patience in the process exposing the emptiness and slowness of so called atheists.

Gggg102:
how is homosexuality a sin?

lemme answer for you

because it was against the law of Moses which we are no longer under.
the same way eating unclean animals, mixing of threads, cross breeding of cattle, putting tassels on your clothes, planting different crops on the same field... were sins but we as Christians can do all these since we are no longer under the law.

IOW, the New Testament didn't condemn homosexuality?

Have you read the following?

G N T Romans 1:26-27
Because they do this, God has given them over to shameful passions. Even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by unnatural acts. In the same way the men give up natural sexual relations with women and burn with passion for each other. Men do shameful things with each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing.

Good News Translation 1 Corinthians 6:9 Surely you know that the wicked will not possess God's Kingdom. Do not fool yourselves; people who are immoral or who worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual perverts

G NT
1 Timothy 1:9-10

It must be remembered, of course, that laws are made, not for good people, but for lawbreakers and criminals, for the godless and sinful,

for those who are not religious or spiritual, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the immoral, for sexual perverts (homosexuals), for kidnappers, for those who lie and give false testimony or who do anything else contrary to sound doctrine.

The more i try to make these scriptures be in the Old testament, they still pull back glued in the New.

Boy, if you think as a Christian you can be gay, then you are in for a long thing.

Satan is a lair.

bahaushe1:
Waraqah was never a soothsayer, he was following the correct teachings of Jesus (AS).

All the prophets of Allaah (Jesus, AS, inclusive) were humans and therefore subject to anything that can afflict humans. They were however, specially chosen and given certain position above that of other human beings.

Like which teachings of Jesus? Pls name one.

bahaushe1:
Waraqa's words are the proof you need not a hadith. He prophesied the driven way of the prophet from Makkah and promised to support him if he were to be alive.

This is clear acceptance of the prophet and the message he brought.

You could post the Hadith where that is written. Waraqa was a soothsayer who pretended to be a Catholic..

Do you know that Muhammed was placed under s curse by a sorcerer? A prophet under a curse, wow.

sKeetz:
you, muhammed, jesus christ are all mad.

Plus your father nah.

Gggg102:
1. God had already promised Abraham another man's land before all these.

Who gave 'another man' that land? You? because the last time i checked, YHWH created the earth and everything in it, so can give it to whomever He chooses.

Psalm:24:1
The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

Haggai:2:8
The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts.

Everything on earth belongs to Him, including you. You are his property. If He wanted you to be a rat that is who you'd have been. But you a human, male, from Africa, Nigerian, your tribe from that family from those parents and having those siblings. You didn't choose any of those. So be warned when you wag your finger at the Sovereign authority.

Gggg102:
do you think the promise would have been fulfilled without chasing the original inhabitants out?

God says the people are going to be destroyed, hence they got destroyed. How else will Israel i habit the land if the inhabitants were still there?

Anyways, the owner of the land wanted them out.

Gggg102:
2. a) how where the people of Jericho violent to the Israelites

First off, it wasn't what they did to the Israelites, it was what they did to YHWH the owner of the land.

They were sinful, very wicked people who did so wickedly hence, YHWH wanted them erased. He said the earth upon which they lived had vomitted them out. The Israelites just cleaned the mess.

Gggg102:
even if they were violent, they were. justified
there was a threat to their land

Their land? Lolzzz. There's a human on earth who can create land?

Gggg102:
b) so intermarriage is a bad thing.
that's what Adolf Hitler thought.
they were strangers in the land, it was only natural they mixed.

Their God said no, so it's no.
quote author=Gggg102 post=65526093]
and there was no account of intermarriage. they killed original inhabitants before they had the chance to propose.
they even took virgins as sex slaves[b] so at the end of the day, they still mixed and polluted their bloodline[/b].[/quote]A Cameroonian will say, Ye one, two mouth. So you know intermarriage will pollute the bloodline yet you said there's nothing wrong in it.

quote author=Gggg102 post=65526093]
c) there is a saying 'when you are in Rome, behave like the Romans.'[/quote]That is if your God is not in Rome nah. Our God is everywhere so we don't do as Romans do.
quote author=Gggg102 post=65526093]
you can't be strangers in a land and expect your culture to supercede the culture of the people there.[/quote]That was why those other cultures needed to go

quote author=Gggg102 post=65526093]
moreover the Israelites did not try to settle peacefully with the original inhabitants. they went in swords blazing in the air.[/quote]That's because, the landlord said to them 'Clean the mess'.

hopefulLandlord:
ima put u on my fries, they need a bit of salt

You can do whatever you want.

budaatum:
There you go again with the snideness. Can't you help yourself?!


"You wait and see" Is what Obatala and Ogun people would say too.


You don't know anything about me. That's why I am here laughing.

My maternal great grandparents were Ifa Priests in the Orolu Kingdom. And because of it we are steeped in the Ifa awo. My paternal grandfather, the Basorun, was an Obatala Priest. Obatala is the Supreme God in Orolu Land. You might from this understand that I have pedigree.

Whenever I arrive in the Orolu Kingdom, I do a walk around the town as part of my os[h]a (I've added the h so it reads well), and I must start after 2am, for that is when the Spirits that ensure Orolu prospers roam around the Kingdom. The walk takes me past Saint John's - the first church in town, past the first mosque and past the Palace in front of which stands the I Bo Osa (Osa Shrine), and takes approximately 1.5 - 2 hours. And on it, I will meet nightwatchmen, who are Ogun worshippers, as nightwatchmen usually are in Yoruba land.

They will shout out, "Iwo wo lo nlo ni ibe yen?" (Who is it that goes there?). And I will respond, "Emi" (Me). They would ask, "Ta ni iwo?" (Who is 'me'?) and I will respond, "Emi Basorun". (Me, Basorun). You see, I'm not the Basorun, my uncle is, but we Basoruns have this thing that every Omo Basorun (Child of Basorun) refers to themselves as Basorun so when you see one, you have seen us all. They will then respond, "Te le jeje o, S'Orun" ('Thread on the ground softly, you the Heavenly Doer'), plus some other things. I will respond with the appropriate response, and go on my way.

Now, if you know anything about Yoruba land, you would know that my walk has a meaning to those who are in the know. What amazes them is that Omo Baba Ilu Oyinbo, ("The Child of the Old Man from London" - the old man, having spent years abroad and who appears to have practically lost all knowledge of the local culture), first, knows the role of his forefathers (walking around town in the middle of the night conversing with the Spirits and ensuring they keep on making the Kingdom prosper). Second, that Omo Baba Ilu Oyinbo is brave enough to take on this role (The middle of the night in the Orolu Kingdom is when the Gods send the Spirits to place a mark on those who will depart from earth that day so, if you don't want to die, stay indoors!). And third, that Omo Baba Ilu Oyinbo knows the right things to say when the Spirits accost him on his walk (not knowing the right words is like not knowing the password, and if you get it wrong the Spirits will just make you depart from earth that very moment!). You might understand why, part of our response in the dialogue is the phrase "Ilu a toro o" (There will be peace and prosperity in the land o).

As Omo Basorun, it is my duty to go up into the heavens and bring light to my people. And the only way I can personally defy the Gods of the land is by me not performing the duty assigned to me by the Gods. And if I do not perform my duty, which is not just walking around town in the middle of the night but also going up into the heavens and bringing Light to my Kingdom, I, buda will die. But I like performing my duty, so buda, lives!


I hope from what I've said above that you would understand me when I say, in the old days, the Gods will tell the likes of myself to take those who defy them to the bottom of the river and bash their heads in and use their skulls to drink sekete. But like human sacrifices, which we did because our Gods required it, we do no more because we are not so stupid anymore. And since we, the doers of the errands of our Gods no more do that which we claimed our Gods told us to do, they, our Gods, have lost their potency to punish those who defy them. Now, they have learnt to forgive many times and make different demands of us.

But besides that, Omo Basorun (It means "Son of the King of the Heavens", in case you do not know), is not able to defy his father, 'The King of the Heavens'. And if anyone is bold enough to falsely accuse him of such a crime, the Son of the King of the Heavens will go up into the Heavens, get permission from his Father, The King of the Heavens, to blot out the light and the Kingdom will be in darkness!

My point is that my beliefs are irrelevant. When I am in Rome I am a Roman, And when I am in the Orolu Kingdom, I am Omo Basorun, the Son of the King of the Heavens who goes up to his Father, the King of the Heavens, from where he brings Light into the Orolu Kingdom.

Yet there are no gods abi?

budaatum:
There you go again with the snideness. Can't you help yourself?!


"You wait and see" Is what Obatala and Ogun people would say too.


You don't know anything about me. That's why I am here laughing.

My maternal great grandparents were Ifa Priests in the Orolu Kingdom. And because of it we are steeped in the Ifa awo. My paternal grandfather, the Basorun, was an Obatala Priest. Obatala is the Supreme God in Orolu Land. You might from this understand that I have pedigree.

Whenever I arrive in the Orolu Kingdom, I do a walk around the town as part of my os[h]a (I've added the h so it reads well), and I must start after 2am, for that is when the Spirits that ensure Orolu prospers roam around the Kingdom. The walk takes me past Saint John's - the first church in town, past the first mosque and past the Palace in front of which stands the I Bo Osa (Osa Shrine), and takes approximately 1.5 - 2 hours. And on it, I will meet nightwatchmen, who are Ogun worshippers, as nightwatchmen usually are in Yoruba land.

They will shout out, "Iwo wo lo nlo ni ibe yen?" (Who is it that goes there?). And I will respond, "Emi" (Me). They would ask, "Ta ni iwo?" (Who is 'me'?) and I will respond, "Emi Basorun". (Me, Basorun). You see, I'm not the Basorun, my uncle is, but we Basoruns have this thing that every Omo Basorun (Child of Basorun) refers to themselves as Basorun so when you see one, you have seen us all. They will then respond, "Te le jeje o, S'Orun" ('Thread on the ground softly, you the Heavenly Doer'), plus some other things. I will respond with the appropriate response, and go on my way.

Now, if you know anything about Yoruba land, you would know that my walk has a meaning to those who are in the know. What amazes them is that Omo Baba Ilu Oyinbo, ("The Child of the Old Man from London" - the old man, having spent years abroad and who appears to have practically lost all knowledge of the local culture), first, knows the role of his forefathers (walking around town in the middle of the night conversing with the Spirits and ensuring they keep on making the Kingdom prosper). Second, that Omo Baba Ilu Oyinbo is brave enough to take on this role (The middle of the night in the Orolu Kingdom is when the Gods send the Spirits to place a mark on those who will depart from earth that day so, if you don't want to die, stay indoors!). And third, that Omo Baba Ilu Oyinbo knows the right things to say when the Spirits accost him on his walk (not knowing the right words is like not knowing the password, and if you get it wrong the Spirits will just make you depart from earth that very moment!). You might understand why, part of our response in the dialogue is the phrase "Ilu a toro o" (There will be peace and prosperity in the land o).

As Omo Basorun, it is my duty to go up into the heavens and bring light to my people. And the only way I can personally defy the Gods of the land is by me not performing the duty assigned to me by the Gods. And if I do not perform my duty, which is not just walking around town in the middle of the night but also going up into the heavens and bringing Light to my Kingdom, I, buda will die. But I like performing my duty, so buda, lives!


I hope from what I've said above that you would understand me when I say, in the old days, the Gods will tell the likes of myself to take those who defy them to the bottom of the river and bash their heads in and use their skulls to drink sekete. But like human sacrifices, which we did because our Gods required it, we do no more because we are not so stupid anymore. And since we, the doers of the errands of our Gods no more do that which we claimed our Gods told us to do, they, our Gods, have lost their potency to punish those who defy them. Now, they have learnt to forgive many times and make different demands of us.

But besides that, Omo Basorun (It means "Son of the King of the Heavens", in case you do not know), is not able to defy his father, 'The King of the Heavens'. And if anyone is bold enough to falsely accuse him of such a crime, the Son of the King of the Heavens will go up into the Heavens, get permission from his Father, The King of the Heavens, to blot out the light and the Kingdom will be in darkness!

My point is that my beliefs are irrelevant. When I am in Rome I am a Roman, And when I am in the Orolu Kingdom, I am Omo Basorun, the Son of the King of the Heavens who goes up to his Father, the King of the Heavens, from where he brings Light into the Orolu Kingdom.

I can't believe i just read this from a man who claims there is no God(s). Except you just said this but don't mean any of it. because if you do, then it's a shame to come out in public and deny the very core of who you are

You do this because you just want to appear hip by claiming you are an atheist, or because that's what is trending? Oyinbo don dey chop all una head o. Those cultureless people.

You call us deluded for abandoning our culture to embrace the white man's and their God, but here you are doing worst.

Sir, i am a Christian, a core one at that, but what
I just read here runs deep into our culture and you insult it here.

You are a Basorun? I have heard that word before, I didn't know what it meant till now, but i knew it was a high title.

You are a son of gods who are in public denying your heritage. Denying their very existence because you no longer offer the blood of humans to them.

May you not be struck dead. Amin.

Besides, how do you know human blood is no longer being offered by your people at home while you are in London?

shadeyinka:
You are correct.
I think as he grew older, he began to feel insecure about his messages. He had to say

"I do NOT know what will happen to me or to you.. I am just a plain warner".

He knew he could be going to hell. The solution was to make all Muslims begin to pray for his insecurities : peace even in hell fire

Sincerely, sometimes i pity Mohammed. That man was a victim in Satan's hand. He was forcefully taken to the service of allah. His wife Kadija didn't help the situation as he was taken to a soothsayer after he cried out in frustration.

From frying pan to fire. waraqa only prepared more lies for him to believe.

Satan so used the man. Killing and sex became his life force.

Now he has gone to hell and all these innocent muslims will follow him there.

vaxx:
first of all, obatala, ogun or any other energies are not GODS. they are orisha. when you put it into yoruba syllable , it goes like this ori- ti- a- sha...meaning ,the head we specifically selected ...we do not worship orisha rather we honor and acknowledge them ,our cuilture
are characterized by a deep sense of the interdependence of all life. every life form and element of Nature has an inner soul force – including rivers, rocks, clouds, metals, flowers, thunder, and the wind. These natural energies that comprise the Universe are symbolically represented by Orisa . Each Orisa has its own specific function. Humans are in constant communication with Orisa energy, whether we’re aware of it or not. for instance, te-ki- ina- lo- Ji(press and let fire wake it) known as technology in English are simply a combination of iron, steel,metal and human ability to convert fire to electricity, coal to gas and so some other interesting things we do with fire.. so you can not defile this natural energy and go Scot free, the ogun and shango, are the symbolic representation of technology,(i.e. the inner soul in them)cars ,phones, electricity even cutlass or any other product of technology comes with their taboo, check the manual instructions, if you defile them, they will work against you... it work till today, as it work in the past no one defile the orisha and go Scot free.

Obatala is the symbolic representation of purity and cleanliness , No one defiles purity and cleanliness without facing the consequence.

Cc: Budaatum.

Thank you bro Vaxx. I knew i could depend on you.

And thanks for the insight into the Yourba Cosmology.