₦airaland Forum

UnabashedIPOB:
Why are you showing a video of a nut job? "Sheik" Asari Dokubo is as stupid a human as you can ever find. So, sharing his video can NEVER prove whatever point you're trying SO HARD to prove. He's a worthless FAT BASTARD!

Let him catch you for calling him "fat" . So because he's Muslim you hate him this much.

And by the way, you STILL have not yet given me ONE reason why you're PROUD to be a NIGERIAN.

it is where I was born. It is the name of was called. So it's your. We can not scrap it.

You can dibble and dabble in all kinds of things, but you have consciously REFUSED to ANSWER a VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.

now you got your simple answer. Now what?. Are you people not pay of the problems?. Don't forget too quick.. Evans the kidnapper... He's from your side. Don't forget notorious bandit in the 90s called "Clifology". I am sure I didn't speak his name correctly. He was from your side too and so many more. What alleged herdsmen are doing today is what clifology did those days. I hope you remember his story?. That's one of your side's contribution to the country.

You know why? Because there's no reason and you are too ASHAMED of your self to admit that your belief in ONE NIGERIA has NO basis in fact and reality. But probably out of religious sentiment and dogma as you were taught by your FULANI MASTERS, you believe in it for no apparent reason. I sincerely hope that upon self reflection and assessment of your thought process, you would begin to reason independently and form your own opinion based on FACTS not illusion.

all major tribes contributed to the pathetic state of the country. By trying to single out fulanis as the main actor makes your bigot.

majamajic:
Arrest oba ?

How ?

is he above the law?

Odingo1:
Where is the document where CAN said that.

check my profile.

Anything else you said is irrelevant. If you want to criticize Isa Pantami you are free to do that but condemning Muslims and tagging everything ISLAMIC/muslims "jihadist, terrorist" is off. The more you say this the more muslims support Pantami because you idiots are now making clear your intention, that Islam is your target.

emmnprince:
Based on your comment: Prayer points that man doesn't have the final say but God, and literal killings of a people tagged infidels. Which one is worst?

why are you guys so hypocritical?. This is exact reason why Muslims may want to support Isa Pantami if they didn't want to support him before. If you see injustice you must speak against it. Go and read CAN manifesto called "69 prayer points". It is not just prayer but called for death and destruction of Muslims in Nigeria and around the world. That's not prayer. Stop twisting. They even specifically mentioned names of some muslims to target.

And even if we are to accept it is just "prayer", is it not Christians that claimed to be "peaceful"?. Why prayed for deaths of your fellow humans?.

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rotadeco27:
How many died from the action of Fayose, God will judge all of you terrorists supporters . That the Pantami is still walking freely today even as a minister speak a lot about terrorist affiliation of Buhari led government

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MarvelousMe:
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Wow... this is serious

But then it takes me back to my question, supposing the fellow that made that statement comes to hold the position of isa pantomime, do you think the north, the Muslims of this country would be comfortable or would they call for the resignation of such a fellow?

What if the Christians of the country get behind such a bigoted fellow seeing no wrong or saying statement was made in the past and he’s repented. would you think they were being reasonable, would such an excuse be accepted by the north and the Muslims??

bros, there were several high profile cases like this already but they were buried from the masses. Anyways I have answered your question but it looks like you didn't get it.

Let me just be very clear. Isa Pantami should resign or suspended if such allegation was brought up. This is standard protocol until security agency clears him. So this is what I read few days ago that he was already cleared by DSS and other agencies in the country. So if agencies already cleared him, what's all the noise about?.

So again, there are several incidents concerning christians involved in some sort of fraudulent activities but muslims let them be because muslims are far more tolerant. Please don't ask me for examples. But I should give you one. During GEJ administration, he and his cabinet worked with israel to sell or share data of Nigerian citizens with Israeli intelligence agencies. By law, in a sane country this is treason punishable by death. Was GEJ and many of his christians and even some muslim cabinet scrutinized?. No. And I believe you understand the risks of sharing your citizens data to foreign country.

That reminds me, during the last general elections, Gov El-Ruffai brought up an issue that happened in the past against Peter Obi and why he wasn’t fit to be elected to hold office in the country. Do you remember something like that?

to be honest with you I have no memory of this at all. But again, religion and hypocrisy destroyed the country.

There are more I can tell you that put Nigeria in this situation since the 70s by christians (CAN). Their jealousy for Islam is killing the country. But allow me to stop here. I already posted some in a thread about Isa Pantami. If I can locate the thread I will call your attention to it. What you are seeing today didn't start today.

Today is only reflection of the past, and we are just getting started.

MarvelousMe:
Good. Supposing what you said here is true, would you feel comfortable any of them holding a position in this country in the future?
Would the north feel comfortable any of them holding a position in this country in the future?
What about the Muslims, would they feel comfortable or would they dig up this past and kick against such person?
Would they say it what said in the past and let the past remain in the past or they would feel uncomfortable someone with such extremist views heading a public position??

Answer truthfully

if you read my subsequent comment you should see your answer there. If you need access to CAN documents check my profile to clear your doubt. It is not "if it is true". After you read it then you get to realize that 2010 documents posted on NL few days ago that detailed alleged plans of the north was in response to CAN 1994 evil docs.

I will just brief you one of their statements which says; "they (Muslims) are too many in Nigeria. We must liberate Nigeria from Islam to christianity before the year 2000".

They were funded by Western countries to end Islam in Nigeria the 90s. This is what prompted North to establish sharia (even though their Sharia is not ISLAMIC but political). It was the implementation of Sharia that impeded growth of christianity in the northern part of the country. Up till today, christian leaders in Nigeria are still getting financial support and logistics from the West to spread their religion. Hence, we must question BH issue. This is why media in Nigeria right now is occupied by mostly christians. So they must report whatever is in their best interest.

UnabashedIPOB:
I take offence to that. I have no hand in making that place a ZOO. Nothing that I have ever done contributed to the condition that's prevailing there. You might have contributed albeit tacitly because of your support for bad governance and those who try to keep the statusquo ante! You can play the ostrich all you want by lying to your self about not just ONE NIGERIA but UNITED STATES OF AFRICA nonsense. You forget that you're a black person and you reason like an animal. Good luck with that.

watch Ashari Dokubo. Are Fulani the only ones responsible for the the state pathetic of the country?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x_e-zDBqhI

helpsomeone:
. Is he not saying the truth?

devil also soaks the truth. You don't get it. I said he didn't have moral ground to accuse good fellow politicians. Before he can't be taken seriously he must first return to court and clear his case.

The bible says "let who without sin cast the stone". Isn't this what Christians always preach?

Kuginzi:
They'll start attacking you now!

they can bring it on. They are bunch of hypocrites. I wouldn't mind saying Isa Pantami should resign upon allegations. That's the standard protocol. But what I read to me disdain were attacks on Muslim and islam. Which means all the hullabaloo about Isa Pantami was tip of iceberg.

Big picture is they do not want muslims to hold top offices in Nigeria. I seen on Facebook and YouTube am attack Islam itself by the officials that are calling for resignation of Isa Pantami. Even Sahara Reporter did the same.

And later they would tell us their religion is is peace, loving and forgiving.

It is high time we started digging CAN past especially it's 1994 prayer points that called for death and destruction of Muslims in Nigeria and around the world.

It defamed personality of prophet of Islam. We need to dig it up. They hide the documents at RCCG library

GracieX3:


See this terrorist sympathiser! Fanatic

Iru omo wo wa le leyi ntori Olohun?. Hatred will do you no good. Get over it. Mingle with Muslims and win cash prices this Ramadan.

See a 10yr old won Mecca, he won lots of household items worth thousands of naira, he won a plot of land, he won 10 scholarships to give people of his choice (science students). Finally he won 1.6 million naira cash. All these just by answering 3-4 questions. Watch

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3736509213084114&id=2061893453879040&anchor_composer=false

But you are here hating people and constituting nuisance on social media?. Iwo imo merindinlogun . O ja mi lara je.

Does Fayose has any moral discipline to criticize this govt?. Does he thinks we forget his past?. He is part of the corrupt govt. He thinks we forget "I am in pain". For as long as accused Nigerian politicians escape justice in the country, the country is never gonna move forward. Before he can be taken serious his wealth must be audited

MadamExcellency:
Bible passages are written in context. Losing the context makes the discussion meaningless. I am not interested in religion or religious differences rather freedom from sin, elimination of corruption and getting Holiness without which no man will see God

I know Christian tricks very well. When you are cornered, that's when you come up with excuses like this. I didn't invite you. It was you that decided to join the discussions and you realized it isn't easy to engage Muslims.. Therefore you look for escape route.

Anyways, next time before you jump into discussion, be prepared. If you want to eliminate sin you must start with you and your household. I don't need your epistle. I know what the bible says. If you want to prove me wrong, a simply 2-3 passage of the bible context would have sufficed instead of quoting entire passage.

I am not here to argue with you because the bible warns us not to unless it leads you to salvation and eternal life.

this is not true. You said this to escape. What Bible says is in the book of Isaiah 1:18



"Come now, and let us reason together..."


Which means Bible gives room for dialogue

GracieX3:
Can you see your life?

Clearly, you have no defence for Pantami and MURIC.

Next time, stop harassing us with your MURIC propaganda. Nairaland MURIC spokesman

Awusubilah! Iru agbako omo wo le le yi?. Omo merindinlogun 16yrs causing problems on social media. O ja mi lara je. Your apostle must hear this. I'm taking you to Saudi Arabia first class tomorrow before you become thug on nairaland platform.

Empiree:
We should have Ramadan quiz Giveaway this year as we did previous years. This quiz giveaway is meant to takecare of little burden like brother above. But unfortunately, due to some overwhelming circumstances the quiz may not hold this year Ramadan. If there is any update I will be glad to post notice.

However, whoever is interested may still join Ramadan giveaway on Facebook and YouTube. There are some Muslim programs on this Ramadan with Q&A+prizes.

You may reach out to them on FB:

Yesaloonaka
https://m.facebook.com/yesaloonaka1/?tsid=0.24339613939049465&source=result



Okanlomo
https://m.facebook.com/Okanlomo-Al-Hizat-world-wide-100204471848920/?ref=m_notif&notif_t=live_video_explicit



Oniqurani
https://m.facebook.com/ISLAM-FIRST-TV-2284467041838538/?tsid=0.9651639440626099&source=result



AlFulani
https://m.facebook.com/AlfulannySebiluNnajatConcept/


Al-arubu
https://m.facebook.com/Al-Erubu-173257586525728/?tsid=0.29400246269544295&source=result


Kajue Baba
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100053982382020&refid=46&tsid=0.1441778197791881&source=result&_rdr


Risalatu Haq Dawaa International
https://m.facebook.com/www.risalatulhaqdawah.org/?tsid=0.30108988419561444&source=result

A 10 year old won Haj on AlFulani Ramadan quiz program

GreatThings:
Lool, Got you with info you didnt know? Hahaha

I saw you go into extensive detail on this your position on banks on some post somewhere else on nairaland.

Cant find it so I thought I would reply here.

Anyway keep up the online therapy, its good to let it all out.

oh okay. Good to know you were able to read my archive. Yes, yellow there are so called ISLAMIC banking that take interest from back door. I have nothing to do with those. But then, they are still better in terms of interest

GracieX3:
Let's take the idiotic argument you copied and pasted just to defend a terrorist sympathiser-


1. It starts with defending Saudi Arabia as if Saudi did not sponsor terrorist activities that happened during Bin Ladens era.

2. Does Pantami preaching in Saudi Arabia make him any less of a terrorist sympathiser? No that argument foes not follow any logic. There are terrorist preachers in Saudi therefore, preaching in Saudi does not make one innocent.

3. It is irrelevant if the US and UK did not arrest him or put him under any watch list. This is evidence of myopic colonial mentality. Are the UK and US perfect? Were they not lackadaisical about the underwear bomber even though he was reported to them?

4. Calling Pantami's detractors yahoo boys and book haram does not address his past statements. That is only an ad hominem.

5. Pantami said that Osama Bin Laden was a better Muslim than him. He also said that he enjoyed when infidels are killed. Those are terrorist views.

I told you to take your grievances to the govt and stop harassing me on social media. I have no time for your trash. Write to Nigeria authority a letter and tell them how you feel. You understand?

GreatThings:
I actually want to be careful with answering this because you already have a position in mind.

If you had the old covenant books that you said earlier that you are trying to keep, you would know about the second coming prophesied in Daniel but I guess you don't. - Daniel 7:13;

The website is fake. The name is fake. Somebody is lying to you and you are letting the person.

I think an easy place to understand the bible is the old testament, even I could read it as a child to show how straightforward it is. You should start there to understand the Abrahamic faith.
There are 39 books, and you get to meet the original Jews, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Their sons, the tribes of Israel. I think what you have been getting is summary with personal interpretations imposed on, which as you just saw in the verse we went over is not recommended.

what I like most about you is that you consistently acknowledge old testament. I like that because unlike many of your fellow christians, they always run away from old testament bcuz it doesn't suit them. If I start with Old Testament now I hope you don't get to run away from it too?. Truly, old testament is original religious practices are. New testament is counterfeit by Paul. Paul changed religion of Jesus (Islam) to his own religion (Christianity). Evidence of this is located in your Bible



"Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God," ◄ Romans 3:7 ►

So you can see Paul changed Jesus doctrines.

✓ He's the one that cancelled Old laws and religion.

✓ He's the one that came up with the idea of "Jesus is lord and saviour". Jesus didn't say this.

✓Paul is the one that brought Christianity. He was a lawyer from Europe and travelled from Rome to middle east. He gathered information about Jesus to form his own religion.

✓ It was Paul who tells you to eat pork but old testament forbids consumption of pork.

✓ It was Paul who said you should not circumcise but in the old testament all prophets including Jesus circumcized.

✓ It was Paul that came up with the idea of "blood of jesus", "Jesus died for your sin".

✓ It was Paul who came up with praying in Jesus name. But Jesus already taught you how to pray. In thy lord's prayer, Jesus taught you to pray in the name of God but Paul said you should pray in Jesus name.

✓ Paul brought trinity not Jesus

All these and more are fake news from Paul. To prove my point, that Paul came up with Christianity, show me in the bible where Bible mentioned "Bible"?. Show me where Bible mentioned Christianity?. Depending on your responses, I will start showing you Islam in the Old testament.

GreatThings:
I guess we have moved again.

I am impressed tho most people usually talk from the old testament because the new testament can really only be explained by the holy spirit.

So either you are copying this from somewhere or you genuinely tried to understand and could not.


THE BIBLE IS ONE STORY NOT A SET OF INSTRUCTIONS. PAUL IS WRITING A LETTER NOT TO YOU BUT TO THE CHURCH IN ROME.

So Bible is series of Paul's letter. If his letter was directed to church in Rome, how does this concern you a Nigerian?. It means Paul's religion (Christianity) is for Rome not africans. You are African practicing wrong religion. Your religion is ISLAM. Stop wasting your precious time.

MadamExcellency:
Stop misinterpreting the Bible by injecting your confirmatory bias.

The quotation you referred was not a personalized statement of Paul's life. The statement began with "if" from the Bible version you used but on the contrary it's a general question alluding to inescapability of anyone from judgement by justifying oneself.

Let see the Bible reference you quoted from Contemporary English Version (CEV)

Since your lies bring great honor to God by showing how truthful he is, you may ask why God still says you are a sinner. You might as well say, “Let's do something evil, so that something good will come of it!” Some people even claim that we are saying this. But God is fair and will judge them as well. What does all this mean? Does it mean that we Jews are better off than the Gentiles? No, it doesn't! Jews, as well as Gentiles, are ruled by sin, just as I have said.
Romans 3:7‭-‬9 CEV
https://bible.com/bible/392/rom.3.7-9.CEV

Is it not obvious that, clearly your Bible have contradictory versions?. You carefully chose CEV version... The only version that contradicted all other versions?. Kind James Bible is the most revered version of the bible and it quoted the similar as NIV I quoted earlier. So why accused me of twisting your Bible when, is fact, it is how it is translated there. Paul lied throughout his evangelism to promote his religion. This tactical lies is what today's christian evangelists use as well to bring people to church. That's, as long as church is full they don't care of the consequences.

Typical example was when we were in primary school. Teachers would tell us that muhammad is evil. That Muhammad doesn't like children of God and Muhammad can not give food to children.

To prove their point, during morning devotion they would tell us to pray in Muhammad's name to bring food(unfortunately Muslims don't pray in Muhammad's name) WITHOUT closing our eyes. We obeyed and teachers led the prayers. After several mins no food showed up. They said "you see, muhammad doesn't like children". They now tell us to close our eyes and pray in Jesus name. We did and prayed in Jesus name. While we CLOSED our eyes, they deligently put food they already prepared on our tables and asked us to open our eyes. By the time we opened our eyes we find food on our tables and everyone shouted "haàaaaaalelluyah", "thank you Jesus" They planted hatred of Islam in our heart. Awon werey. But many of us were not stupid. We knew their tricks. Here i am today as muslims. Christianity is filled with lies and manipulation.

It is called evangelism by lies

GreatThings:
In the bible there are themes. Another place where Personal interpretation was clearly stated was with Paul:
15 But even before I was born, God chose me and called me by his marvelous grace. Then it pleased him 16 to reveal his Son to me[e] so that I would proclaim the Good News about Jesus to the Gentiles.

When this happened, I did not rush out to consult with any human being.[f] 17 Nor did I go up to Jerusalem to consult with those who were apostles before I was. Instead, I went away into Arabia, and later I returned to the city of Damascus.

18 Then three years later I went to Jerusalem to get to know Peter,[g] and I stayed with him for fifteen days. 19 The only other apostle I met at that time was James, the Lord’s brother. 20 I declare before God that what I am writing to you is not a lie.

21 After that visit I went north into the provinces of Syria and Cilicia. 22 And still the churches in Christ that are in Judea didn’t know me personally. 23 All they knew was that people were saying, “The one who used to persecute us is now preaching the very faith he tried to destroy!” 24 And they praised God because of me.

26 I am writing these things to warn you about those who want to lead you astray. 27 But you have received the Holy Spirit,[a] and he lives within you, so you don’t need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit[b] teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true—it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ. - 1 John 2;:26 - 28

I can give so many other examples.

For the last part. Islam you people believe you are like slaves or something in your religion.
In the bible YES We are made in the likeness of God.
The bible says we are a Royal Priesthood, a holy nation. Every Christian is in every present moment seated with God in high places.

Jesus is the firstborn back from the dead. Guess why Jesus is called the firstborn, every other person who believes in Jesus gets raised with him. This is what Paul was talking about in the scripture you quoted about resurrection ( I can go into more detail in that if you like) that the power in resurrection is what gives us hope as Christian of life beyond this world. So we have many second, third fifth, 1 million borns. And in accordance with the human nature of God we are elevated in the spiritual hierarchy by faith.

In the bible human beings are higher than the angels. Angels are to minister to human beings and carry out the will of God.

Lastly Catholics do not claim the extra books are inspired. They are called Aprophycal books, they preserve history and show good morals. The living God is firmly in charge of his church and the books he wants everyone to read.

I hope this help you.

It is sad your believe and quoted Mr. Paul. Paul that admitted he's a liar.


"Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?". Romans 3:7


This verse smoove proves that churches are fool by deception. I'm smithery verse, Paul was a chameleon.



1 Corinthians 9:20,


"To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law."

If he was written drunkard he was also drunk. I got more lies of self acclaimed "Apostle Paul"

GreatThings:
Okay Thank Jesus its Friday.

"knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation" 2 Peter 1:20 - If you did the research you will see translations that said No prophecy in the scripture comes from a prophets own interpretation, it means a prophet cannot interpret his own prophecy and write it as scripture, he has to give the prophecy as he received it from God.

If you read the whole chapter Peter was talking to people who were doubting the second coming of Jesus Christ. He was saying that the prophecies about the second coming that he and the prophets in the old testament gave were directly from God without them adding their own interpretation to it.

Don't worry, the vatican has given up on his return. He's dead. Your Bible I quoted confirmed he's dead. Whether he's coming back or not is irrelevant. What's relevant is what you believe about him. From some ISLAMIC literature that claims his return, his return is not in favor of christianity or christian. Hadith tells us that he's coming back to break the cross.

Breaking cross is symbolic which means Jesus will return to debunk Christianity. But we really don't need that because Quran already told us Christianity is not religion from God nor religion of Jesus.



Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you(muslims) as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).



Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 2476
In-book reference : Book 46, Hadith 37
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 3, Book 43, Hadith 656

GreatThings:
Whatever makes you feel better about your self bro.

Rant online, it is good therapy. You deserve at least that for all you have done for Nigeria.

P.S. Islamic banks claim they are "Interest Free" Instead they add the interest as the "fee" for borrowing the loan. There are several ways they get their money back. You can do the research to all the methods.
The reason someone will go to a conventional bank is that a loan can be written off but because there is already no interest in an Islamic bank. The amount you have to pay back is always fixed so there is no advantage.

Do you know how many loans Nigeria has got forgiven by these institutions you don't support, the probability of that happening in an Islamic bank is slim. Just saying. May God open the eyes of your understanding in Jesus name.

you no nothing. How does this relate with my writeup?

GracieX3:
Shameless.

Anyone can see how you are keeping quiet over MURIC p

So you haven't figured how very disrespectful you are?. You bumped into this thread and started acting crazy. Is this how your religion taught you to approach others?. You can ask questions without being disrespectful?.

Anyways if you have issues with Isa Pantami, you are free to challenge Nigerian govt. My understanding is he was cleared.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk5-bFFZS7Y

Islam Beyond Dogma Series: What is Freewill? - Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIT3uW2sww



Idolatry: Pastor destroys the statue of Mary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL7fL4NXe2Y



Pastor's got a message about Christmas Tree


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTw_IoVUOfQ

flames01:
That's an isolated case. Islam actually preaches violence against coverts to Christianity, but Christianity doesn't

Isolated case?. Am not surprised.

The same people that are agitating for their nations are the ones behind this illicit activities.. Yet they would still blame fulani for Nigeria's problems..

They don't look in the mirror.

GracieX3:
Keep quiet.

Keep dodging. Weren't you MURIC'S spokesman here on nairaland?

Now you are quiet

Iru agbako omo wo leleyi laaro Saturday?. Omo merindinlogun....16yrs talking to me like this. O ja mi lara je

mu2sa2:
To buttress your point, I have seen a video clip where a Jewish teenager in Israeli was saying "we killed jesus and we are proud of it". Truth is, jews don't care a hoot about you if you're a Christian or Muslim (even Jews who convert to christianity are treated as outcasts).

don't mind NIGERIA christians. They are clowns. They support anything against Muslims. They think Israel give a damn about them. Israel only accepts Christians for moral support. It doesn't care about Jesus. I know the video you talked about. Christians know it too but they turned blind eye.

Not only that, there is also Muppet show mockery of Jesus by a slutty bikini young Jewish girl nailed Muppet on the cross in mockery of Jesus but Nigeria kiriyo are too damn silly to see it.

TruthHurts1:
Actually the concept of regarding others as second class citizens is purely islamic and it is called Dhimmi.

Muslims are allowed to kill and rape non muslims.

The Bible on the other hand forbids maltreatment of anyone because of their ethnicity.

You can't get over your hate for Islam right?. The most populous Christian nation on earth is United States yet non-whites are second class citizens. Abeg, say something else.

Dhimmi that you talked about is old concept those days. The idea is not from QUR'AN but state law. It no longer applied. Can you tell us where in the QUR'AN is says to maltreat people in Muslim country?. If you can not then you are a lying terrorist.