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PoliticsRe: Minutes Of 2010 Meeting Chaired By Pantami To Fight Christianity by Empiree: 4:28pm On Apr 22, 2021
GreatThings:
I understand Yoruba partly, From what I followed, the person said Quran is a revelation, Paul wrote the bible. The Christian then replied, did the angel write the Quran or was it not a human as well. Then he said who told you Islam is the way, then something else I didn't understand. Then the call ended.

Is there something I missed?
you made me laugh on swahili now. I believe you have been very sincere so far until you watched this video. You are getting it right but you don't seem to watch everything or you held back info bcuz you acknowledged you can understand Yorùbá partly but suddenly when it comes to telling me how your fellow christian abused Muslim presenter you don't understand?. I told you it is probably longer than 15mins conversation how your fellow christian man abused Muslim preacher unprovoked. He called in few times within the conversations.

Please forget about whether QUR'AN or Bible is revelation, right or wrong. That's not the point I needed. Keep watching if you can.
PoliticsRe: Minutes Of 2010 Meeting Chaired By Pantami To Fight Christianity by Empiree: 4:21pm On Apr 22, 2021
GreatThings:
"But your religion extremism is supported by your religious leaders unlike muslims. " Expert in indoctrination I hail o!!!! We are talking Christian Curriculum and suddenly we have shortcut to religious extremism, reminds me of Trumps "Build the Wall" The shorter the message, the less the logic the more it sticks. It has been really nice engaging with you
perhaps you should have read btw the lines when I said your curriculum needs reviews. For me to say that means I have seen christian extremists activities in Nigeria. Verbally and documented references. And several online materials on this NL platform the way your fellow Christians abuse Islam and muslims.
PoliticsRe: Minutes Of 2010 Meeting Chaired By Pantami To Fight Christianity by Empiree: 3:56pm On Apr 22, 2021
GreatThings:
If Churches agree to allow their curriculum be reviewed will you do the same for the Mosques? Maybe we can finally trace where the boko haram ideology is coming from, maybe also stop children indoctrination as well.

Literally Christian Education works differently from Islam, the more correct term is Christian discipleship, because everybody's relationship with God and spiritual gits through Jesus are so personal you cant teach them a book of texts, instead you point them in the right direction to grow themselves and experience God in their own way.

Just heads up for future
Here is the audio I want you to listen to. Just skipped and watch from 1:12:00 where a Christian called in. Watch until the entire audio is over (probably 15-20mins)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psn9IMj2SWI


It is in yoruba language. If you don't speak or understand Yorùbá then I guess you should not bother.
PoliticsRe: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Empiree: 3:49pm On Apr 22, 2021
GreatThings:
Obviously you don't believe in love and peace at all.

Okay do you have a version? muslim version of love and peace that you believe in, a version that is consistent to condemn all wrongs and not just fight over the lesser evil. I guess that is what I am asking.

The picture on the thread is so faint and its cut off in all the important parts. cry Down this road of half-information, please send the link to a website or something that is more detailed. Thank You.
which picture are you referring to here?. Is this a very tiny attachment?. Is stop, that's why I advised you to visit my profile. You will see full docs there. But it is old docs as old as 26 yrs and somewhat faded but you can still read out. I also helped readers write it out to read for themselves.



Since the hope of you providing a detailed link are slim, those are prayer points. James 4:2 said " And when you do ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may squander it on your pleasures" God clearly answers prayers aligned with his will, he is unquestionable. We legit don't have a concept of fatwa and you are trying really hard to place this as an equivalent.

I just want to clarify for other people who might be reading this thread as well.
oh so you are aware but you pretend you didn't know?. If you know, then you should have seen the link in my profile. It is interesting you said it is "prayer points". I'm glad. So your prayer points called for death and destruction of Muslims in 1994. Is that peaceful message?. I don't know why Abacha didn't deal with your leaders those days and let them for away with it
PoliticsRe: Minutes Of 2010 Meeting Chaired By Pantami To Fight Christianity by Empiree: 3:41pm On Apr 22, 2021
GreatThings:
If Churches agree to allow their curriculum be reviewed will you do the same for the Mosques? Maybe we can finally trace where the boko haram ideology is coming from, maybe also stop children indoctrination as well.

Literally Christian Education works differently from Islam, the more correct term is Christian discipleship, because everybody's relationship with God and spiritual gits through Jesus are so personal you cant teach them a book of texts, instead you point them in the right direction to grow themselves and experience God in their own way.

Just heads up for future
you see why I didn't want to have words with you until you read everything?. Because right now you are being DEFENSIVE. And you have no idea teachings of Islam either. You only judge it from afar based on your preconceived notion.

Please do go through the threads especially, read your Christian 1994 manifesto to see how "peaceful" CHRISTIANITY is. I wish I can post a video from yesterday Muslim program and hear for yourself your fellow christian violence and threatening messages to Muslim presenter. So far, your judgement is based on media. So I can't blame you that much.

But what I know for sure is you can't tell me anything new about CHRISTIANITY and christians but I am not accusing all Christians.

Speaking of reviewing Muslim curriculum as well, yes there is only one section of Muslims that needs to be checked and other Muslims have been doing that. But your religion extremism is supported by your religious leaders unlike muslims. So please go ahead and read.

Any question?
PoliticsRe: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Empiree: 3:18pm On Apr 22, 2021
GreatThings:
I have a question to ask you, why cant muslims be the ones spearheading peace efforts in the country. Why cant they be at the forefront of it?

Don't they believe God made everyone on earth and loves them. Maybe I am superimposing the Christian view here. It says, "God makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust." " For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?"

It seems the answer is nobody is righteous my sin is not greater than yours - you pulled up Ayo Oritsejafor(P.S. I did a quick search didnt find anything, can you drop a link), don't you have a righteous stance in your book to condemn it all. Please explain
let me make something clear to you. I do not believe in CHRISTIANITY fake "love & peace". You only preach it but do not practice it.

I am honestly not interested in typing much at this moment because I simply lost interest unlike yesterday. Maybe depending on your reply I may be. But let me help you direct you to my conversations with a fellow Christian yesterday if that will help a bit?.


Here we go. In this thread below, kindly scroll a little down until you see where I started contributing and a guy responded to me. You don't need to read all the comments. You can simply read only my chats with the guy by skipping randomly. If you have further questions, God willing I am too answer if I am so wish.

https://www.nairaland.com/6509446/want-isa-pantami-terrorist-watchlist/3

Also, if you can, check my profile and read my first thread titled: Christian Association Of NIGERIA
PoliticsRe: Samuel Achi: Pantami Was Imam When ATBU Muslims Killed My Son In A Mosque by Empiree: 1:30pm On Apr 22, 2021
CHRISTIANITY DESTROYED NIGERIA ECONOMY, SOCIAL FABRIC, PEACE AND UNITY & BROUGHT INSECURITIES IN THE COUNTRY


Still on Pantami....


I really intended this Ramadan to be a quiet one. But these deluded Islamophobic Anti- Pantamist are irritatingly disturbing.
So a document was circulated on twitter yesterday where it was said the minister of information chaired a meeting for Islamisation and declaration of jihad.


First of all, it will take a great deal of stupidity to believe that document is anything close to real. Just read the first few lines. No, the very heading betrays the forgery.


But when you have an army of uncritical, mindless , internet mobs you can sell any stupidity. This document is particularly sinister as it drags even the amiable Sultan of Sokoto, the Jamaatu Nasr Islami into the picture and for good measure it ropes in political wounds : Jonah Jang and Yakowa.


The most annoying thing is this is a country that has seen the worst of divisive rhetoric from Christian leaders , remember Ayo Oritsejafor?. Who threatened violence , severally and well documented , while Boko haram was killing Muslims in the North East. Where were the condemnations?. Or that rabble rousing fanatic, Pastor Bosun Emmanuel, who made a lengthy lecture of how Muslims were to be dealt with not only politically but even at the level of marriage.


I remember him saying no Christians should be allowed to marry Muslims.
Please listen to him again. You'll still find his lecture online. In fact someone sent a document allegedly also written by Christians on how to christianise Nigeria, but I don't do my stuff that way. You've got to have indisputable fact if you're going public with things of this nature. This is what the bigots on the other side lack.


If someone comes to you with this nonsense , question his sanity first, and then ask him if his parents haven't really wasted their money sending him to school where he didn't even get to learn critical thinking. Shikena.




P.s. I fit curse any Muslim who gives an apologetic response to these islamophobes. Tell them to bring it on.


P.s.s for whatever reason I wish Isa Pantami was El Rufai. Really.

©Ustadh Kabir Al Asfar


Attention Federal Republic Of Nigeria: You need to review churches curriculum. Churches are training churchgoers intolerance and insecurities in the country
PoliticsRe: Minutes Of 2010 Meeting Chaired By Pantami To Fight Christianity by Empiree: 1:21pm On Apr 22, 2021
CHRISTIANITY DESTROYED NIGERIA ECONOMY, SOCIAL FABRIC, PEACE AND UNITY & BROUGHT INSECURITIES IN THE COUNTRY


Still on Pantami....


I really intended this Ramadan to be a quiet one. But these deluded Islamophobic Anti- Pantamist are irritatingly disturbing.
So a document was circulated on twitter yesterday where it was said the minister of information chaired a meeting for Islamisation and declaration of jihad.


First of all, it will take a great deal of stupidity to believe that document is anything close to real. Just read the first few lines. No, the very heading betrays the forgery.


But when you have an army of uncritical, mindless , internet mobs you can sell any stupidity. This document is particularly sinister as it drags even the amiable Sultan of Sokoto, the Jamaatu Nasr Islami into the picture and for good measure it ropes in political wounds : Jonah Jang and Yakowa.


The most annoying thing is this is a country that has seen the worst of divisive rhetoric from Christian leaders , remember Ayo Oritsejafor?. Who threatened violence , severally and well documented , while Boko haram was killing Muslims in the North East. Where were the condemnations?. Or that rabble rousing fanatic, Pastor Bosun Emmanuel, who made a lengthy lecture of how Muslims were to be dealt with not only politically but even at the level of marriage.


I remember him saying no Christians should be allowed to marry Muslims.
Please listen to him again. You'll still find his lecture online. In fact someone sent a document allegedly also written by Christians on how to christianise Nigeria, but I don't do my stuff that way. You've got to have indisputable fact if you're going public with things of this nature. This is what the bigots on the other side lack.


If someone comes to you with this nonsense , question his sanity first, and then ask him if his parents haven't really wasted their money sending him to school where he didn't even get to learn critical thinking. Shikena.




P.s. I fit curse any Muslim who gives an apologetic response to these islamophobes. Tell them to bring it on.


P.s.s for whatever reason I wish Isa Pantami was El Rufai. Really.

©Ustadh Kabir Al Asfar


Attention Federal Republic Of Nigeria: You need to review churches curriculum. Churches are training churchgoers intolerance and insecurities in the country
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:39am On Apr 22, 2021
PoliticsRe: Kidnapping: Shehu Sani Advises Living Faith Theological School In Kaduna by Empiree: 8:40pm On Apr 21, 2021
onoms4luv:
Security in Nigeria is zero
NIN (database) was proposed but you NIGERIANS have problems with it and minister in charge. And yes, animals have database even advanced countries too.

Many of you NIGERIANS are ignorant. Please allow the government to do their job
BusinessRe: Amazon To Open African Headquarters In South Africa by Empiree: 5:14pm On Apr 21, 2021
Onlinealaba:
We missed out on this again, Giant of Africa by population embarassed
You don't need them. Afterall all benefits go to them and you become workerholic to them. What you need is to create your own businesses but you built churches instead.
PoliticsRe: We Want Isa Pantami On Terrorist Watchlist - Nigerians Petition US Government by Empiree:
UnabashedIPOB:
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Fulani are not your enemies. You are your own enemies. Nothing stops you from developing your own region. Hold your local and state govt responsible for your pathetic state.

Besides, MEND settlement some years ago, what did they do with it?. Hillary Clinton helped you secured settlement during GEJ and you people are still complaining?.

I am not in support of federal govt taking advantage of oil field and giving nothing to the locals. Truly oil fields belong to federal govt regardless of demographics but the citizens must feel the impact of wealth extracted in their region. It is not only Fulani govt. Yoruba and Igbo presidents or Head Of States also tapped from the region oil. Stop making yourself feel bad and embrace your Fulani brothers and sisters. We are all human beings and we must embrace ones another.



"O mankind! Surely We have created you male and female (or from a single pair), and made you tribes and families that you may know each other; surely the most noble of you with Allah(God) is the one among you most righteous (careful of his duty to Allah); surely Allah is Knowing, Aware." - Quran



So, embrace your Fulani brothers and sisters and shun hatred preached to you. You may ask yourself how in the world your pastors (both Yorùbá and igbo) enrich themselves by taking advantage of their subjects?. Many places in Nigeria that supposedly reserved for infrastructures, factories use are consumed by churches on them. Who that help?. Why wouldn't be poverty when you have bunch of churches everywhere in the country?. Are churches gonna put food on your table?. My guy, you have been scammed by your christian leaders.

Let me also tell you one truth they don't tell you but I have hinted you before yesterday or 2 days ago. Muslims are the ones that always attempted to bring innovation that would benefits Nigeria and it's people but your Christian leaders always sabotage this progress in the name of religion. This is exactly what's going on with Pantami issue with invention of NIN.

What I'm trying to tell you is, there is interest free ISLAMIC investment in Nigeria. Your christian leaders know many of it's benefits but they openly criticized it in order not to divert attention of the people to Islam. But they go behind the closed doors and reap the benefits of this ISLAMIC investment. Muslim investors in the business are less than 1%. But many investors are pastors from Yorùbá and Igbo. Igbo are 80% of the investors and making money big time while they come out to condemn Islam, muslims and Hausa/Fulani. But they don't tell you benefits they receive from the ISLAMIC investment. This is hypocrisy. So you can keep hating Islam, muslims and Fulani all you want. It is not gonna help you. Instead of you to ask how and I will direct you to people but you are just hating for no reason. You are probably a broke ass nigga somewhere in Ekwusigo grin and ranting on social media grin

You must be fake IPOB from Dunukofia cheesy grin grin
PoliticsRe: Elumelu Demands Pantami’s Resignation, Gbajabiamila Blocks Motion by Empiree: 2:46pm On Apr 21, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Christianity has nothing to do with the discussion here. A terrorist sympathizer holds a very sensitive position in the cabinet of the President of Nigeria.

His extremist views are now exposed and he should do the honorable thing and resign.

So talking about economy is tales by moonlight.
Pantami and the hypocrisy of his detractors

- By Fredrick Nwabufo

Profiling. Targeting. Scapegoating. In Nigeria, you are more likely to effectuate wry remarks and suspicious stares if you are the prototypical Muslim with full-bred beard, a ‘’decimal point’’ on your forehead – a sign of your devotion to Almighty Allah, and apparelled in modest trousers that stand aloof from the ankle than if you are a Bible-wielding evangelist piercing the dawn quietude of a drowsy neighbourhood with screams and shrieks of ‘’repentance’’.

We live in a country that is autochthonously Christianised. Our ways are Christian. It is commonplace to profile Muslims who hold strong beliefs as ‘’extremists’’ but not Christians who arrogantly profess their beliefs anywhere and everywhere, even commanding obeisance to their faith. I have never heard any Christian described as an extremist – even when some church leaders make galling and inflammatory statements.


In the build-up to the 2015 presidential election, Bishop Oyedepo vowed to open the floodgates of hell on the opponents of former President Goodluck Jonathan. Is this not an incendiary statement – by a man of god? This pastor also physically assaulted a penitent who came to his church for deliverance. But it was excused because he is a Christian leader. Christians are not extremists even when their actions vouchsafe this fact – but any Muslim can be summarily tagged an ‘’extremist?’’ When a Christian leader makes extremist comments, we call it ‘’holy anger’’. It is hypocrisy.



In 2017, the DSS attempted to arrest Pastor Johnson Suleman after he publicly said he asked his security guards to kill any Fulani intruder around his church. He also threatened the government after state agents swooped in on a hotel he took residence in Ekiti. In addition, Pastor Enenche and others in the same phylum have made ungodly threats that border on bigotry and extremism. But they were all palliated – because they are Christian leaders. It is hypocrisy.

Our society is subliminally attuned to certain precepts and ways that are predominantly Christian. Any otherness sets off an alarm. It is societal conditioning. Our society has been conditioned to readily see some people in one divide as ‘’extremists’’ and others in another category as ‘’devotees’’. A conditioning in hypocrisy.

The avalanche of attacks – both sponsored and taxied – against Isa Ibrahim Pantami, minister of communication and digital economy, accents some Nigerians’ atavism and aboriginal hypocrisy. I would not want to dwell on the contents of some videos and abstracts rippling on social media because they have been politically ammunitioned for not kosher ends.


Pantami’s only offence could be that he is a Sheikh heading a vital government ministry. Yes, some bigoted interests find his being a Sheikh in a sensitive public office exasperating. They cannot stand the fact that a notable Muslim leader is the superintendent of a key ministry. But Pantami is not just any Sheikh. He is a technocrat who knows his onions. He is not fish out of water at the ministry of communications. He trained as a computer scientist, obtaining a PhD from Robert Gordon University in Scotland. He bagged sterling credentials from Ivy-league schools like Harvard University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He also attended Cambridge in the UK. But bigotry clouds the mind of those who see him as a Sheikh who has no business in the communications ministry.

As a matter of fact, the kindler of the current social media blitz against the minister is beyond ‘’what he said or did not say in the past’’. Some interests in the communications industry who perceive him as impervious to inducement, a non-conformist and a strong character are working in the shadows. Pantami has taken some hard-line-decisions against the industry vultures that are desperate to draw blood. The controversy is a smokescreen to exact vengeance. Nigerians should not unwarily cavort on the playground of this horde.

The truth is for every of Pantami’s detractor, the cause for grouse are interests not being served. The minister is not playing ball, hence, veiled daggers drawn.

Those calling for Pantami’s resignation do not mean well for Nigeria. I believe he should be judged by his stewardship at the ministry of communications — not by his faith. If the social media blitzkrieg against the minister is because of his performance at the ministry, that will be a different matter. But it is not. Pantami is perhaps one of the most resourceful and responsive communications ministers Nigeria has ever had.

Again, the minister should be judged according to his work at the ministry. And he has done a good job of that.

I will not join the multitude to commit murder.
PoliticsRe: Elumelu Demands Pantami’s Resignation, Gbajabiamila Blocks Motion by Empiree: 2:38pm On Apr 21, 2021
TheGoodJoe:

All this one you are talking is tales by moonlight.

Pantami is a terrorist sympathizer that respects murderers. Such a person, whether Christian or Muslim should not hold a sensitive position in a country.

He is a bad image on the country.
go and read article I sent you and stop being lazy. It was written by your fellow christian. I am not and can not be fooled into "this is not christian/Muslim" thing. It is because Christians make it so. I'm not falling for your antics

CHRISTIANITY messed up Nigeria economy.
PoliticsRe: Elumelu Demands Pantami’s Resignation, Gbajabiamila Blocks Motion by Empiree: 2:31pm On Apr 21, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Stop embarrassing yourself. You are making it look like standing for terrorism is a religion.

This is about standing against evil and Pantami is a sympathizer to evil and Wickedness.

This is not about Christians and Muslims.
this is your opinion. You know nothing. This is what they want you to believe. I know them well. Go and read your christian manual written in 1994. Their evil plans are documented. If you can, if you are a good reader, kindly read this. Please don't come here to tell me it is too long







Pantami and the hypocrisy of his detractors

- By Fredrick Nwabufo

Profiling. Targeting. Scapegoating. In Nigeria, you are more likely to effectuate wry remarks and suspicious stares if you are the prototypical Muslim with full-bred beard, a ‘’decimal point’’ on your forehead – a sign of your devotion to Almighty Allah, and apparelled in modest trousers that stand aloof from the ankle than if you are a Bible-wielding evangelist piercing the dawn quietude of a drowsy neighbourhood with screams and shrieks of ‘’repentance’’.

We live in a country that is autochthonously Christianised. Our ways are Christian. It is commonplace to profile Muslims who hold strong beliefs as ‘’extremists’’ but not Christians who arrogantly profess their beliefs anywhere and everywhere, even commanding obeisance to their faith. I have never heard any Christian described as an extremist – even when some church leaders make galling and inflammatory statements.


In the build-up to the 2015 presidential election, Bishop Oyedepo vowed to open the floodgates of hell on the opponents of former President Goodluck Jonathan. Is this not an incendiary statement – by a man of god? This pastor also physically assaulted a penitent who came to his church for deliverance. But it was excused because he is a Christian leader. Christians are not extremists even when their actions vouchsafe this fact – but any Muslim can be summarily tagged an ‘’extremist?’’ When a Christian leader makes extremist comments, we call it ‘’holy anger’’. It is hypocrisy.



In 2017, the DSS attempted to arrest Pastor Johnson Suleman after he publicly said he asked his security guards to kill any Fulani intruder around his church. He also threatened the government after state agents swooped in on a hotel he took residence in Ekiti. In addition, Pastor Enenche and others in the same phylum have made ungodly threats that border on bigotry and extremism. But they were all palliated – because they are Christian leaders. It is hypocrisy.

Our society is subliminally attuned to certain precepts and ways that are predominantly Christian. Any otherness sets off an alarm. It is societal conditioning. Our society has been conditioned to readily see some people in one divide as ‘’extremists’’ and others in another category as ‘’devotees’’. A conditioning in hypocrisy.

The avalanche of attacks – both sponsored and taxied – against Isa Ibrahim Pantami, minister of communication and digital economy, accents some Nigerians’ atavism and aboriginal hypocrisy. I would not want to dwell on the contents of some videos and abstracts rippling on social media because they have been politically ammunitioned for not kosher ends.


Pantami’s only offence could be that he is a Sheikh heading a vital government ministry. Yes, some bigoted interests find his being a Sheikh in a sensitive public office exasperating. They cannot stand the fact that a notable Muslim leader is the superintendent of a key ministry. But Pantami is not just any Sheikh. He is a technocrat who knows his onions. He is not fish out of water at the ministry of communications. He trained as a computer scientist, obtaining a PhD from Robert Gordon University in Scotland. He bagged sterling credentials from Ivy-league schools like Harvard University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He also attended Cambridge in the UK. But bigotry clouds the mind of those who see him as a Sheikh who has no business in the communications ministry.

As a matter of fact, the kindler of the current social media blitz against the minister is beyond ‘’what he said or did not say in the past’’. Some interests in the communications industry who perceive him as impervious to inducement, a non-conformist and a strong character are working in the shadows. Pantami has taken some hard-line-decisions against the industry vultures that are desperate to draw blood. The controversy is a smokescreen to exact vengeance. Nigerians should not unwarily cavort on the playground of this horde.

The truth is for every of Pantami’s detractor, the cause for grouse are interests not being served. The minister is not playing ball, hence, veiled daggers drawn.

Those calling for Pantami’s resignation do not mean well for Nigeria. I believe he should be judged by his stewardship at the ministry of communications — not by his faith. If the social media blitzkrieg against the minister is because of his performance at the ministry, that will be a different matter. But it is not. Pantami is perhaps one of the most resourceful and responsive communications ministers Nigeria has ever had.

Again, the minister should be judged according to his work at the ministry. And he has done a good job of that.

I will not join the multitude to commit murder.
PoliticsRe: Elumelu Demands Pantami’s Resignation, Gbajabiamila Blocks Motion by Empiree: 2:18pm On Apr 21, 2021
Mandyoluchi:
sad As a born again Christian who is meant to speak the truth at all times, I'm ashamed of the level of hypocrisy displayed by we southerners especially we Christians in this incessant calls for Pantami's resignation. What has pantami done wrong for God's sake? How many of us don't have some misdeeds in the past? Why can't we practice the teachings of our lord Jesus christ who admonished us to love our neighbors as ourselves? Pantami has never been convicted nor tried in any court yet we are calling for his head. Are we not meant to be our brothers keeper? What proof do we Christians have to call him an extremist just because he mandated us to register for NIN. Why this sudden media trial and blackmail? Why can't we emulate northerners who always stand by themselves no matter what? Are we not ashamed that our country's name is been dragged in the mud by this baseless accusations? Pantami is going no where. We have terrible people amongst we Christians too but we shield them rather than call them out. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Christian. Honestly
You're a big disappointment to the entire human race. Your shame dey shame me
PoliticsRe: Elumelu Demands Pantami’s Resignation, Gbajabiamila Blocks Motion by Empiree: 2:12pm On Apr 21, 2021
Pantami and the hypocrisy of his detractors

- By Fredrick Nwabufo

Profiling. Targeting. Scapegoating. In Nigeria, you are more likely to effectuate wry remarks and suspicious stares if you are the prototypical Muslim with full-bred beard, a ‘’decimal point’’ on your forehead – a sign of your devotion to Almighty Allah, and apparelled in modest trousers that stand aloof from the ankle than if you are a Bible-wielding evangelist piercing the dawn quietude of a drowsy neighbourhood with screams and shrieks of ‘’repentance’’.

We live in a country that is autochthonously Christianised. Our ways are Christian. It is commonplace to profile Muslims who hold strong beliefs as ‘’extremists’’ but not Christians who arrogantly profess their beliefs anywhere and everywhere, even commanding obeisance to their faith. I have never heard any Christian described as an extremist – even when some church leaders make galling and inflammatory statements.


In the build-up to the 2015 presidential election, Bishop Oyedepo vowed to open the floodgates of hell on the opponents of former President Goodluck Jonathan. Is this not an incendiary statement – by a man of god? This pastor also physically assaulted a penitent who came to his church for deliverance. But it was excused because he is a Christian leader. Christians are not extremists even when their actions vouchsafe this fact – but any Muslim can be summarily tagged an ‘’extremist?’’ When a Christian leader makes extremist comments, we call it ‘’holy anger’’. It is hypocrisy.



In 2017, the DSS attempted to arrest Pastor Johnson Suleman after he publicly said he asked his security guards to kill any Fulani intruder around his church. He also threatened the government after state agents swooped in on a hotel he took residence in Ekiti. In addition, Pastor Enenche and others in the same phylum have made ungodly threats that border on bigotry and extremism. But they were all palliated – because they are Christian leaders. It is hypocrisy.

Our society is subliminally attuned to certain precepts and ways that are predominantly Christian. Any otherness sets off an alarm. It is societal conditioning. Our society has been conditioned to readily see some people in one divide as ‘’extremists’’ and others in another category as ‘’devotees’’. A conditioning in hypocrisy.

The avalanche of attacks – both sponsored and taxied – against Isa Ibrahim Pantami, minister of communication and digital economy, accents some Nigerians’ atavism and aboriginal hypocrisy. I would not want to dwell on the contents of some videos and abstracts rippling on social media because they have been politically ammunitioned for not kosher ends.


Pantami’s only offence could be that he is a Sheikh heading a vital government ministry. Yes, some bigoted interests find his being a Sheikh in a sensitive public office exasperating. They cannot stand the fact that a notable Muslim leader is the superintendent of a key ministry. But Pantami is not just any Sheikh. He is a technocrat who knows his onions. He is not fish out of water at the ministry of communications. He trained as a computer scientist, obtaining a PhD from Robert Gordon University in Scotland. He bagged sterling credentials from Ivy-league schools like Harvard University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He also attended Cambridge in the UK. But bigotry clouds the mind of those who see him as a Sheikh who has no business in the communications ministry.

As a matter of fact, the kindler of the current social media blitz against the minister is beyond ‘’what he said or did not say in the past’’. Some interests in the communications industry who perceive him as impervious to inducement, a non-conformist and a strong character are working in the shadows. Pantami has taken some hard-line-decisions against the industry vultures that are desperate to draw blood. The controversy is a smokescreen to exact vengeance. Nigerians should not unwarily cavort on the playground of this horde.

The truth is for every of Pantami’s detractor, the cause for grouse are interests not being served. The minister is not playing ball, hence, veiled daggers drawn.

Those calling for Pantami’s resignation do not mean well for Nigeria. I believe he should be judged by his stewardship at the ministry of communications — not by his faith. If the social media blitzkrieg against the minister is because of his performance at the ministry, that will be a different matter. But it is not. Pantami is perhaps one of the most resourceful and responsive communications ministers Nigeria has ever had.

Again, the minister should be judged according to his work at the ministry. And he has done a good job of that.

I will not join the multitude to commit murder.
PoliticsRe: Elumelu Demands Pantami’s Resignation, Gbajabiamila Blocks Motion by Empiree:
Pantami is going nowhere. This is all about christian intolerance. Pantami's here to stay.

CHRISTIANITY destroyed nigerian economy. Ask me why. They are quick to scream "Nigeria is a secular country". Na lie. Yet they have pretty much ceremonially christianized the country. Thanks to the British and Western countries
PoliticsRe: We Want Isa Pantami On Terrorist Watchlist - Nigerians Petition US Government by Empiree: 2:03pm On Apr 21, 2021
UnabashedIPOB

Oh my God grin grin grin I didn't pay attention to your moniker since we have been chatting. So you are IPOB. Abaajo..chai. no wonder you are pigheaded cheesy with truth glaring right before you but you kept denying them. Now I understand grin cheesy
PoliticsRe: We Want Isa Pantami On Terrorist Watchlist - Nigerians Petition US Government by Empiree: 1:44pm On Apr 21, 2021
Pantami and the hypocrisy of his detractors

- By Fredrick Nwabufo

Profiling. Targeting. Scapegoating. In Nigeria, you are more likely to effectuate wry remarks and suspicious stares if you are the prototypical Muslim with full-bred beard, a ‘’decimal point’’ on your forehead – a sign of your devotion to Almighty Allah, and apparelled in modest trousers that stand aloof from the ankle than if you are a Bible-wielding evangelist piercing the dawn quietude of a drowsy neighbourhood with screams and shrieks of ‘’repentance’’.

We live in a country that is autochthonously Christianised. Our ways are Christian. It is commonplace to profile Muslims who hold strong beliefs as ‘’extremists’’ but not Christians who arrogantly profess their beliefs anywhere and everywhere, even commanding obeisance to their faith. I have never heard any Christian described as an extremist – even when some church leaders make galling and inflammatory statements.


In the build-up to the 2015 presidential election, Bishop Oyedepo vowed to open the floodgates of hell on the opponents of former President Goodluck Jonathan. Is this not an incendiary statement – by a man of god? This pastor also physically assaulted a penitent who came to his church for deliverance. But it was excused because he is a Christian leader. Christians are not extremists even when their actions vouchsafe this fact – but any Muslim can be summarily tagged an ‘’extremist?’’ When a Christian leader makes extremist comments, we call it ‘’holy anger’’. It is hypocrisy.



In 2017, the DSS attempted to arrest Pastor Johnson Suleman after he publicly said he asked his security guards to kill any Fulani intruder around his church. He also threatened the government after state agents swooped in on a hotel he took residence in Ekiti. In addition, Pastor Enenche and others in the same phylum have made ungodly threats that border on bigotry and extremism. But they were all palliated – because they are Christian leaders. It is hypocrisy.

Our society is subliminally attuned to certain precepts and ways that are predominantly Christian. Any otherness sets off an alarm. It is societal conditioning. Our society has been conditioned to readily see some people in one divide as ‘’extremists’’ and others in another category as ‘’devotees’’. A conditioning in hypocrisy.

The avalanche of attacks – both sponsored and taxied – against Isa Ibrahim Pantami, minister of communication and digital economy, accents some Nigerians’ atavism and aboriginal hypocrisy. I would not want to dwell on the contents of some videos and abstracts rippling on social media because they have been politically ammunitioned for not kosher ends.


Pantami’s only offence could be that he is a Sheikh heading a vital government ministry. Yes, some bigoted interests find his being a Sheikh in a sensitive public office exasperating. They cannot stand the fact that a notable Muslim leader is the superintendent of a key ministry. But Pantami is not just any Sheikh. He is a technocrat who knows his onions. He is not fish out of water at the ministry of communications. He trained as a computer scientist, obtaining a PhD from Robert Gordon University in Scotland. He bagged sterling credentials from Ivy-league schools like Harvard University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He also attended Cambridge in the UK. But bigotry clouds the mind of those who see him as a Sheikh who has no business in the communications ministry.

As a matter of fact, the kindler of the current social media blitz against the minister is beyond ‘’what he said or did not say in the past’’. Some interests in the communications industry who perceive him as impervious to inducement, a non-conformist and a strong character are working in the shadows. Pantami has taken some hard-line-decisions against the industry vultures that are desperate to draw blood. The controversy is a smokescreen to exact vengeance. Nigerians should not unwarily cavort on the playground of this horde.

The truth is for every of Pantami’s detractor, the cause for grouse are interests not being served. The minister is not playing ball, hence, veiled daggers drawn.

Those calling for Pantami’s resignation do not mean well for Nigeria. I believe he should be judged by his stewardship at the ministry of communications — not by his faith. If the social media blitzkrieg against the minister is because of his performance at the ministry, that will be a different matter. But it is not. Pantami is perhaps one of the most resourceful and responsive communications ministers Nigeria has ever had.

Again, the minister should be judged according to his work at the ministry. And he has done a good job of that.

I will not join the multitude to commit murder.

Cc:
UnabashedIPOB

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PoliticsRe: MIURIC Demands Shari’ah Courts In South West & Edo - Ishaq Akintola by Empiree: 1:10am On Apr 21, 2021
EmekaA125:
Oga, their number hasn't gone up anything. They convert their relation and family members. No one has time to beat of attack anyone on the basis of his religious inclination in Igboland. Even IPOB under Kanu hasn't said anything about them because they are very very few and inconsequential in the scheme of things in SEast. So there's no need worrying ourselves over Islam because they will never rise in SE region. Sorry if this shocker shocks you the more. Anu mpama
ISLAMIC CALLING IN IGBO LANGUAGE ON NTA CHANNEL 12 OWERRI, IMO STATE. CALL 08033157072, 07026475090.


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=igbo+calling+to+islam



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpAOmNMyW50

Thank me later
PoliticsRe: MIURIC Demands Shari’ah Courts In South West & Edo - Ishaq Akintola by Empiree: 11:20pm On Apr 20, 2021
EmekaA125:
Lol. Only this man and very few Igbos accepted Islam i.e they're like 0.001% of total SE population. Continue giving urself hopegrin grin grin grin
don't worry, it is just crawling up. Give it another 10yrs from now you and you get to see more feasible changes. There are lots of igbo muslims right now but it is still being subdued by media. Just give it a time. Those igbo converts are usually beat up by family and friends and sometimes kidnapped or forced to returned to CHRISTIANITY.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1312335262467652&id=100010735713607


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hPorlAAkcg
PoliticsRe: MIURIC Demands Shari’ah Courts In South West & Edo - Ishaq Akintola by Empiree: 11:13pm On Apr 20, 2021
chrisblack:
ready for you anytime any day.
Least all so forget . No state religion in Yoruba land
meaning?. How does this relate?
PoliticsRe: MIURIC Demands Shari’ah Courts In South West & Edo - Ishaq Akintola by Empiree: 9:38pm On Apr 20, 2021
chrisblack:
grin grin grin grin grin
Irrelevant ?debate him and runaway with your tail stuck between your legs. I challenge you to disprove him is you are sure he's irrelevant.
I am already sensing you sweating .you know you will be called a potato.
Ye shall know the truth and it will set you free.
The truth is power .
Knowledge is key
instead of ranting about a ghost CP, how about you volunteer yourself. It is irrelevant talking about a ghost CP here. I have listened to him for years. He's irrelevant and a professional manipulator. I don't dialogue with a ghost CP
PoliticsRe: We Want Isa Pantami On Terrorist Watchlist - Nigerians Petition US Government by Empiree: 9:34pm On Apr 20, 2021
UnabashedIPOB:
Mister, I do no intend to dignify such arrant nonsense that you have been spewing. I find it not only amusing but annoying that when I show you evidence of your mentor, Pantami's, religious extremist views and MUSLIM TERRORIST groups, you call it FAKE news. But you want me to buy hook line and sinker your cut and paste clippings. If you do not have nothing of substance to argue or can't reason beyond your shallowness, then I am not going to waste any of my valuable time to run around in circle.
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=189493608804153&_rdr
PoliticsRe: MIURIC Demands Shari’ah Courts In South West & Edo - Ishaq Akintola by Empiree: 9:27pm On Apr 20, 2021
chrisblack:
1.CP is human just like any of us.
2. He is not a Zionist but a believer in God Àlmighty and his only begotten son Jesus Christ.
3. All your ustaz , sheik ,scholars who have debated him have done one of the following , either they left with their heads bow or became christians.
He shows irrefutable facts .That can not be disproved. Can you debate him grin
abeg, get away with your cp. He's irrelevant here
PoliticsRe: We Want Isa Pantami On Terrorist Watchlist - Nigerians Petition US Government by Empiree: 8:54pm On Apr 20, 2021
More christian terrorists activities in Nigeria...




“The Internet does not forget the following instances, out of many failed terrorist acts and false flag operations that would have been blamed on Muslims in Nigeria if they had succeeded: Mr John Alaku Akpavan, a Christian, was arrested on June 5, 2011 while attempting to bomb the Radio House, opposite the International Conference Centre, Abuja.”




NSCIA named one Ms Lydia Joseph, a Christian from Bauchi State who failed in her attempt to bomb St John Catholic Cathedral in the state on September 12, 2011.”




The council further listed others to include: one Augustine Effiong from Akwa Ibom State, a Christian who carried out a bomb attack on Bayero University, Kano, on April 29, 2012.




NSCIA named one Emmanuel King, a Christian who was arrested after he disguised himself as a Muslim in an attempt to bomb the Redeemed Christian Church of God, RCCG, in Yenagoa, Bayelsa State, on December 28, 2011.




The Islamic council alleged that Christian traders of Igbo extraction shot their fellow Igbo businessmen inside the Christ Apostolic Church, Adamawa State, on January 6, 2012.




Nwoha alleged that one Madam Ruth, a Christian was arrested while attempting to bomb an ECWA Church in Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State on March 12, 2012.




NSCIA claimed that some eight Christians were nabbed in Bauchi State in an attempt to bomb COCIN Church on February 26, 2012.



Nwoha stated that a Christian bomber was lynched same day while attempting to escape after bombing COCIN Church in Jos.



Also named is one Jonathan Gyanet, a Christian police officer, who was allegedly arrested while attempting to bomb ERCC Church in Akwanga Nasarawa State on April 20, 2014.
PoliticsRe: We Want Isa Pantami On Terrorist Watchlist - Nigerians Petition US Government by Empiree: 8:51pm On Apr 20, 2021
UnabashedIPOB:
Are you for real? You just showed news article of Niger Delta people expressing their anger and frustration over how their resources are been used to develop the FULANI NORTH. Just because they are not Muslims, did they attach or use CHRISTIANITY as basis for their intended terrorist acts like BOKO HARAM does? The answer is NO. And again, you showed a Reuters News report of a terrorist arrested in Germany with an Igbo name but he is a member of Boko Haram. So, why you keep making an argument and providing evidence that defeats your contention? I just don't get it. If you do not have anything serious and intelligent to say, I suggest you STOP making jest of your self.
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