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enilove:
Jesus is God but not God the Father , whose name is Jehovah.

but you just said this

enilove:
Jesus is the Son of God , and God like his Father.

And you said you are teacher?. Don't you see your contradictions?. Only fools take Christianity serious. I mean no insult.


Let me break down what you just said. You said Jesus is Son Of God. You later said Jesus is God but not God the father. What does that mean?. Doesn't this mean that there are multiple Gods and God the father is the greater? God the son is the mini God?. In that case what's the meaning of your saying "God is one"?.

See why I said earlier that Christianity is house of confusion?. Didn't I tell you that neither you nor plainbibltruth knows identity of Jesus?. Your belief is based on speculations and hearsays

Why is it so hard for you guys to identify who Jesus was?. You can't teach your belief to primary School students without messing up their innocent brain.

wolesmile:
It is 6, followed by 1.
Water won't even get into the other cups.

you sure it is 6?

enilove:
Jesus is the Son of God , and God like his Father.

Okay, so God the father is separate entity. And Jesus Christ is also separate from what you just said. I'm I right?.

In another word Jesus is not God. I'm I right?

ican2020:
the international community kowns that this administration is zero when it comes to honesty

Has there ever been honest Nigeria administration? Don't trust the Brits. They are culprits.

troublemakea:
how do you expect them to know. ...is international community living here

Good answer

wolesmile:
took me 15 seconds

you sure say you found where 8 located?

enilove:
He knows but you don't . Despite all he posted and explained in plain terms , you still find it hard to understand or trying to twist the truth.

The truth is known to be bitter , that is the reason you call it nonsense.

Who should leave between you and I ? Are you not an intruder? Just leave and let the OP continue with his good work.
We don't need you here and we don't want you here.

This is your homework. Who is Jesus?

Human being

God

Holy spirit

All to above.



Easy question, isn't?.



If you ask a muslim who is Muhammad?. He will reply " he is human being and messanger of God. Simple isn't?. Why is yours complicated?.

Please answer that question above. Thanks

plainbibletruth:
I really do not see your point. But let me give some clarification.

1. You pasted a dictionary definition of the word "BEGET".
2. It had two (2) meanings.
3. I stated that it is the context or the writer's claim that would determine which of the meaning applies to a statement made using the word "beget".
4. That second meaning said: "to give rise to"; "bring about".
5. So, according to the dictionary you pasted (note: 'YOU') BEGET is NOT ONLY about human procreation. Right?
6. The Greek word that was translated to "begotten" is "monogenes". That word has the element of 'one of a kind' i.e. 'unique' in its meaning. So it is in order to use 'one and only' or 'unique'.
7. I hope this has clarified things for you.

"For God so loved the world that he gave his UNIQUELY born Son that whosoever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

sorry, I misplaced UNIQUE for BEGOTTEN and I have rectified that. You are still perpetrating fraud. It's this last phrase ("only begotten" used in the KJV, NASB and the NKJV). Many other Bible version don't even use the phrase. Okay let's assume Jesus is the only begotten son. So now who is the Father, Jesus?. And he's also the same holy spirit?..

Still what you are saying here is load of confusion. I wonder how people remain in Christianity. And there are bunch of you with professional certificates and you still typed nonsense despite your level of education?.

This so called unique it's not exclusive to Jesus. Besides it is dictionary you relied on not revelation I drive UNIQUE. Another question is, who wrong the Bible?. Who is John mentioned in John 3:16?. The verse was not coming from Jesus himself or holy spirit. It is hearsay

usermane:
Man, you're unbelievable. What happened to putting truth and justice over self, family & friends?



Then let the people dethrone them. Start a revolution. It's better to remain and fix the problem than leave the problem.



Tax evasion is not the answer. We know the answer, but surprisingly, no one mentions it. We have imams cursing the west day in day out, and yet they will not admit it is wrong to live there and pay tax and develope the economy. This is insanity.



You need to wake up. It's not just about occupation or dispossesion, it's about contributing to Israel war crimes with tax money, it's about contributing to Israel's economy.



You keep saying this? I did not say Islam is limited to one region, but as Muslim you need to develope your home first. If you cannot persevere in Muslim country, you can reside in non Muslim countries outside USA and Western Europe that do not fund wars against innocent people.

The only Muslims who may be excused in the short term for still living in Western Europe or US are the converts. All the rest Muslim there, the immigrants and children of immigrants needlessly have some blood in their hands.

Do you think that the Muslim terrorists are happy with you, a Muslim permanently residing in the West? Do you think they'll feel any remorse if a western Muslim get caught in their bomb blast?

what happened to Arab spring they had?. We still seeing what's going on 7 years later.. Maybe you should take Nigeria for instance. Did the people have revolution despite hardship they got through?. No. It is just gonna lead from one death to another and nothing positive achieved afterwards.


Same applies to Muslim world. They don't own themselves. Their govt and foreign govt own them. The moment you try to overthrow them, and they are allies of the west, the west will protect their allies. Why do you think they stationed foreign army in the ME and now being extended to Africa?. This is meant to defend their allies. Govt sure knows how to distract revolution. It is so easy for them. They simply plant their agents amongst you and that's the end of it, even if it peaceful protest. So get over this. The world has evolved. As for muslims living in Israel, eventually both Gaza and the other side too will be absorbed by Israel. Those who will die will in the process which is what we are seeing. Those who will flee will in the process. So I don't blame them. You can lead revolution front. It is not too late at all.

enilove:
To renounce Christianity and accept Islam ?

Leave islam alone and help your brother out. He doesn't know true identity of Jesus and you are here post nonsense?. If you have nothing important to say, you may be to step aside

plainbibletruth:
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To disregard all these and then attempt to force a particular meaning on the word will simply not be correct.

Jesus in his UNIQUENESS is God, Son of God who became a human being through the INCARNATION in order to pay for the sins of mankind so that anyone who accepts the payment made for sin will have eternal life.

He who has the Son [by accepting Him as Lord and Savior] has the life [that is eternal]; he who does not have the Son of God [by personal faith] does not have the life.
1 JOHN 5:12 AMP

I am sorry man. Even a primary school student would be utterly confused and disappointed with everything you said here. I need not to worry myself trying to help you out with this. Fact is, you don't know who Jesus truly was. You need to renounce christianity man.

plainbibletruth:
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Remember I said: "One needs to understand how the user of that term meant it to be."

Now, the dictionary you pasted has two sets of meaning for the word "beget".

One refers to the human procreation process.

The second is: "give rise to"; "bring about".

So, when faced with the use of the word "beget", context or the user's choice of the two options of meaning determines what should be taken as the meaning. We can't just be at liberty to decide which one to pick.

In the case of Jesus Christ the context shows clearly that it is not refering to the usual process of human procreation. God the Father brought about the humanity of God the Son. The Greek word used for "begotten" actually means "unique" or "without equal".

I know you have been using "UNIQUE" for quite some time now. You used it here again in order to single out Jesus christ. To make your case worse, you made distinctions with "BEGOTTEN" by dividing the definition and came up with unique and ultimately changed the second meaning which i underlined above. Now, take a look at Greek definition of BEGOTTEN, it contradicts your definition you attributed to them. BEGOTTEN means human procreation in all dictionaries including Greek's. So where did you get your idea from?.

There is nothing like "UNIQUE" in Greek definition of BEGOTTEN. Check out attachment

usermane:
But.....how? Until the fall of the last Muslim caliphate. It was makroh for a Muslim to permanently migrate from Muslim land to non-Muslim land. If you are a convert to Islam in non-Muslim land, you're highly recommended to emigrate to Muslim land.

This makes sense to you?. Imagine someone who is American citizen by birth. His entire family is there. Let's say African American who doesn't have immediate family in Africa beyond slave trade stories, and he is the only muslim convert in his family and you expect him to migrate to Africa or muslim country permanently and leave his family?. Islam values family, even if they are non-muslim. You know that. Imagine telling a Nigerian christian to reside permanently in Israel just because Jesus was born there?. You think this makes sense?

Today, when you have a non-Muslim country at war with Muslims, do you really think it's fair to live in such country permanently? Do you really think it's fair to the victims of the war in the middle east?

These current muslim leaders, MOST, are compromised and left their people vulnerable.

If you live in the west, you probably cannot judge this objectively. But unless you move out, you are contributing to the suffering of Palestinians, Syrians, Afghans, Yemenis and Iraqis. You are also guilty of supporting oppresive tyrants in the middle east with your money and labour.

Yes, i understand what you mean. What should they do when their own leaders overtly and covertly are in support of the same people waging war on them?. Mind you there are muslims and non-muslims who oppose the govt and would refuse to pay taxes. They are jailed, released, jailed, released and over and over again.

Lastly, what do you think of Muslims living in Israel? This is also OK?

Israel is a controversial land. Muslims lived there prior to establishment of Israel. Large number of them were forced out due to land grab. Even those in Ramallah and gaza are squeezed due to israeli settlers. So you can not cite this as a case study.

The hadith was valid those days since Islam was not as yet spread to western hemisphere that time. This is part of Islam i was telling you evolves with time. Not a hadith that talks about sun and the moon etc. Maybe in the future this hadith may be active. For now, it is redundant. It is not ayah of Quran.

This is my opinion

plainbibletruth:
Does "ibn sabil" (son of the road) mean that the road gave birth to the person called that name or should the understanding of how the user of that term guide its understanding?

If someone is said to be the "son of Satan" should that necessarily mean that Satan had a wife in order to have a son?
No! One needs to understand how the user of that term meant it to be.

I am only concerned about this part where you seem to make sense.

See how you arrived at Son of God and Son of Satan?. Now, I don't have problem with this. The problem is, by your definition of Son of God does that it means that people of moral character are sons of God?. This is what I told you earlier. But Son Of God in the Bible means anyone who possessed good character but you disagreed.



In that case, it was not only Jesus but other prophets and messangers and God-loving people are also sons and daughters of God..

Anyone with bad or wicked character are called Son of Satan. See how clear this is?.

Now if you disagree with what I just said you will forever have conflicted faith. So by what you said about son of God and Son Of Satan CONTRADICT the idea of BEGOTTEN. Begotten is animal act like human beings. This is what your bible described by calling Jesus a "begotten son". Which means God has a wife He copulated with (God forbid).

So how do you reconcile your bible saying Jesus is begotten son of God (John 3:16) and what you said illustrating that Jesus being Son of God means he possessed moral character and doesn't mean God has a wife?

Remember that DEFINITION of beget, which is past tense of begotten is human nature.

Answer this quick question. Who is Jesus?.

A). Human being

B). Son of God

C). God

Odd

Where is USERMANE

Because Christians don't have law in place is the reason this happen to their Jesus. Did I hear this pastor say such jokers should have been slapped?.

That constitute assault would Muslim does that

Over to you usermane

plainbibletruth:
Jesus is "the" Son of God. Not "a" son of God but the UNIQUE Son. That phrase is describing a unique, eternal, spiritual relationship between Jesus and God the Father.

you added UNIQUE to it. That's not what the Bible says. There context of the Bible's son of God applies to every good person including other prophets, which means God has sons by tongue. But if you insist, then you have to give us definition of Son Of God. Or you are saying Son Of God means begotten which makes you heretic and blasphemer.

From him (Jesus) others derive their relationship to God the Father. Others are accepted or adopted as "sons" in the "BELOVED" who is Jesus Christ.

You made this up base on your whims.

His uniqueness lies in the FACT that he is distinct personal deity - One in essence with the Father. Jesus as "the Son" is different in both quality and extent from the other uses of the term.

what you just said here makes you a potential ABORISHA (traditional worshipper). You contradict Divine Oneness of God in your bible.

Jesus, the Son of God, who is ONE IN ESSENCE with God the Father, has come to show us what God is like:

is personality you described here 1 person or two?

No-one has seen God; but God's only Son, He who is nearest to the Father's heart, he has made him known. (John 1:18)

So in another word Jesus is son not God right?. That means Jesus and God are two different entities, correct?.

"The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word"? (Hebrews 1:3)

okay. So God alone is the creator and Jesus by extension is His servant. Every prophet of God are representative of God. By extension we humans are also God's representatives

b]The term "Son of God" with reference to Jesus, expresses a unique relationship. Jesus said: "I and the Father are one[/b]." (John 10:3

but this is also said of other prophets and messangers. If by your definition of Son Of God means Jesus is unique, then, Adam being the first son of God is far more UNIQUE bcus he had no parents.

This is how the Bible portrays the sonship of Jesus Christ. And it should be understood as the Bible explains it. Not in any other way.

which Bible and who wrote it?

b]Jesus in his humanity as son obeyed the Father to the maximum. He therefore had the SEAL of approval of God the Father: The only humanity to do so[/b].

okay so Jesus is messanger then, correct?

The salvation of the human race depends upon the fact that Jesus Christ is both fully divine and fully human, and that these two natures are united but distinct in one person — the Son of God.

You just gave another confusing theory. Jesus can not be human and God at the same time. If this is the case why do many other Christians don't believe this?. Any sane human would reject this theory of yours.

"Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved"

I have always believed Jesus the son of Mary, the messanger of Allah.

It is no longer the case of muslims anymore because there are citizens of these western countries who are muslims both converts and natural born muslims. This makes the hadith obsolete bcus islam is universal. At least this is my interpretation that you can agree with. These muslim citizens of these countries pay tax too. Therefore, the hadith may not apply to them after all since they have to abide by law of the land or go to jail if they fail to pay taxes. As for Trump's decision, that's politically motivated.

You would recall during his election campaign he was accusing Saudi of evil. But the moment he was elected, he changed his position to Iran. Surprisingly, Saudi is not among 7 muslim countries he banned. Goes to show you he was politically motivated. So this is not muslim issue. It is worldwide issue that folks migrate back and forth. May I also tell you that there are Americans who left the country for decades to another countries for "better life". They wanna enjoy their wealth outside western hemisphere.

Fortunately it is still what it is today. Nothing changes EXCEPT iktilaf among Muslims.

tintingz:
You have no evidence of soul, you're just being dogmatic, energy is part of this our natural world and it's not a soul that walk, talk, laugh, have emotions and leave in an imaginary place.

The brain is what gives us conciousness, that's what we can observe, every other thing are assumptions and superstitions.

I have told you that "energy" is a loose definition and a choice of word to disregard Divine plan. I don't argue energy doesn't exist. Energy is part of Divine plan itself.

tintingz:
If she truly died, did you see the medical reports?, there are cases where people slump and die and there are many reasons, it could be she is diabetic, it could be hypertension, cardiac failure, stroke etc. You can't just conclude from your ignorance and said it is because the soul left the body, what kind of fallacy is that?

I know it. I said it. I was ahead of you. Didn't I say this?

Empiree:
Please don't come here that she had "medical conditions".

And I said this too

Empiree:
Now in case you wanna come up with other flimsy excuses like "she fell unconscious", yes, I understand that. People do fall unconscious either bcus of medical conditions, fatigue or slip and fall. But report says this Alhaja died.

Keep deceiving yourself. Sickness or medical condition is separate from death. There are people who live with deadly diseases for yrs or they grow old with it and don't die until their time is up on Earth. I had a client who had MS condition at age 33 and lived with it until he died at age of 82 3yrs ago. MS disease can take life shortly after diagnosis but he lived through it. He collapsed once in a while etc. For the fact that he lived longer than expected proved that death is separate from illness.

Because you see someone showing no symptoms does not mean they are actually healthy, they might be ignoring some things that's health risk.

I have told you that it was said she had no medical conditions

tintingz:
Energy is observable, but your spirit/soul is imaginary.

You wanna see how soul leaves physical body and entire body is useless?.

Watch 30 seconds live how soul was taken and how the body dropped and dummy. Please don't come here that she had "medical conditions". She was healthy and no complications.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu9hR8Y0Lhs



Why she fell and die?. That's called absence of soul. Now in case you wanna come up with other flimsy excuses like "she fell unconscious", yes, I understand that. People do fall unconscious either bcus of medical conditions, fatigue or slip and fall. But report says this Alhaja died.

tintingz:
How did you know this?

Brain doesn't function physically anymore unless you wanna donate it to a live person. But here the brain is dummy and it is not useful to the owner

It is physical and it is going back to dust(clay). Why is it dummy?. Because there is no soul. "Energy" is just a loose definition by scientists.

Your soul is currently in you is the reason your brain is functioning to type poo on NL. The moment your soul is gone we no longer he from you and your brain is useless.

Anything else you posted are irrelevant

tintingz:
Lol, you haven't provide evidence for this soul, the only theory I can accept is energy, humans dispatch energy when they die not the concious spirit depicted by religions.

And where is energy?. You can't see it but you believe it?. But when it comes to Divine truth you snubbed. You are incredible

The brain is the only system we can observe that gives conciousness

waste of time going back n forth. Your brain is dummy without your soul

This is just one of those mythical stories we read from religious texts, the creation of humans out of clay is popular in mythologies in most ancient cultures. E.g the Greek mythology mentioned how Prometheus created humans with water and clay. This was believed long before the Quran exist. So that alone from the Quran verse is false about human creation, the human body is carbon base not silicon.

I didnt expect any reasonable comment from you. You would ask for evidence from our Book but when you are presented you say it is one of those mythologies just as I said before that if God had been physical you would concluded that 'he is just one of those things'. Now take a look at the picture the flesh goes back to the soil and turns clay. Which means the body dissolves in clay. And no matter how long it take the bones too go back to where they came from (clay). Since you believe in materialism or what you can see, clearly you can see physical human body dissolved in clay. Hence, Quran says,




From the earth [b]We created you, and into it We will return you, and from it We will extract you another time.[/b] 20:55



See how the verse beautifully and summarily explained your origin and your returned destination. Deny it all you want. You are now provided physical evidence of your source. You can keep saying this is myth. Scientists actually pondered on the verses of Quran which helped them a lot. They didnt just dismissed them as you do. They deduced meanings from them for their experimentation.

Do you believe something can come out of nothing?

Clay is not even nothing, it's something.

If you came out of clay they you should be silicon not carbon.


Science can explain how we evolve with evidences and evolutionary theories collated, but telling where we are before we exist is unknown, your God having meeting with fairy angels and 6 days creation is Superstitious and absurd.

Early humans have been trying to explain where we came from and how we were created but out of ignorance they came up with different mythologies.

The quoted verses are self explanatory. Why you failed to understand them is beyond me

plainbibletruth:
Jesus said: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me."
That is the way to life.

This means during is time, and to his people (Israelites) not Nigerians

Moses was also the truth, the way and he saved his people (Exodus 14:1-4). He was a savior in his time

Noah was also savior of his people in his time. He was the truth and the leader at the time {Hebrews 11:7}

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them."

"No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also." (1 John 2:22).

These are strong definite statements that require your thoughtful response.

There are many sons of God in the Bible. Adam is son God Luke 3:38. There are many sons and daughters of God in the Bible. Right now we have 7 billion children of God [John 1:12]

hummm

All you have to do is to prove this.

Empiree:
. At the time of this post, New York is 3PM and it is sunshine outside while Saudi is 10PM. That's 7 hrs difference. It is sunset at 7:30PM in New York and 2:30AM in Saudi. Obviously there isnt sun around that time. So where is sun at that moment? Bcus at some point, most likely the entire countries would be at night simultaneously with hrs differences. Where is the sun at that moment? That's really my point though.

Remember entire African continent is at night at the time described above, and EU too.

We all know that when sunset in a region it is sunrise elsewhere. But I say this is not the case all the time. My post above is a case study. Europe and Africa only have 6-7 hrs diff max, which means at some point they are both in the dark. Same applies to America and Asia The only exception I see is the unhabitable island of Howland and very few other island with longest time zones like Kiribati etc

Greyworld:
You dont embezzle a nations wealth and live... its an abormination.

This is what Nigeria needs to enforce and stop hiding behind democracy.

Once they start doing this, accused politicians won't come to court in wheelchair or stretcher. You need tough laws to survive in Nigeria

tintingz:
I don't believe in spirit/soul, the brain is responsible for our conciousness,

your brain means nothing without a soul. Because soul leaves the body is the reason you dead and transited another another realm and your body is laying down lifelessly.

Science have observed the stages of pre-birth in the womb, what your Quran cannot state.

Quran doesn't state?. This is laughable. Read on the stages


(Quran: Surah AI-Mu’minun,23:Ayat 12–14).



"We (Allah) created man from a quintessence of clay.

We then placed him as a nutfah (drop) in a place of settlement, firmly fixed,

then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech like structure),

and then We changed the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed like substance),

then We made out of that mudghah, izam (skeleton,bones),

then We clothed the bones with lahm (muscles,flesh)

then We caused him to grow and come in being and attain the definitive (human)form. So, blessed be God, the best to create.

At the beginning of this ayah briefed us our pre-existence. So if we arrange these stages chronologically we might come up with something like this:


** Nutfah amshaj (drop that is mixed) this stage covers the period from fertilization to implantation. This stage is further divided into: (present day germinal stage): Khalq, Taqdir, Harth.



** Takhleeq (present day embryonic): this stage extends from the beginning of the 3rd week until the end of the 8th week and covers the developmental events. This stage is further divided into: Alaqah (leech-like), Mudghah (somites), Izam (skeleton) and Laham (muscles).



** Nash”ah: (Growth) [present day Foetal stage] During this period the shaping and modelling are active,the external appearance develops in such a way that foetus becomes recognizably human.It lasts till the completion of pregnancy.It is further divided into: An-nashaa-Khalaqakha (from 9–26wks) and Al Hadana-al Rahamiya (from 26 wks to full term). This could be an apt way of classifying the various stages of human development.




Does man not remember that We created him before, while he was nothing? (19:67)

tintingz:
In pre-birth you exist in a physical place(the womb) what happens before that is unknown, the brain is everything, ones the brain is gone then you go unconcious like oblivion, the brain is the state of your conciousness!
Spirit/soul whatever that is, are just some mythical concept that has no basis of evidence.

The invisible place or imaginary place doesn't exist until proven, you don't know where you are before you exist, you're only assuming things without evidences.

I don't know where I was before I exist and it's not of my concern, I've no reason to believe there's an imaginary place where I was, no evidence pointing to that, it's when we are living we started reading different superstitions about afterlife.

Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators? (52:35)

Meaning, you came out of clay. Clay is physical, and this was the beginning of man.


You notice Quran speaks of pre-existence at the beginning of the Ayah before you finally arrive in the physical womb. Just because science doesn't know that or doesn't teach you doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This is subject of ilm-ghayb. So you and scientists can speak for yourselves {that you don't know about pre-existence of man}. Don't say "we don't know". You don't know.

[s]The Quran and every other religious books are filled with ancient superstitions, mythologies, why should a logical person take those serious, like believing in flying donkey or sticks turn to snakes?[/s]

tintingz:
In pre-birth you exist in a physical place(the womb) what happens before that is unknown,

Good. Now, you need to draw curtain bcus you don't know beyond this. We have knowledge of pre-birth and you no longer have the right to demand for physical evidence.

the brain is everything, ones the brain is gone then you go unconcious like oblivion, the brain is the state of your conciousness!
Spirit/soul whatever that is, are just some mythical concept that has no basis of evidence.

I am not taking you serious. You have said you have no knowledge of pre-birth. It is laughable that you said there is no spirit/soul. If you have no soul/spirit(ruh), you wont be typing and using computer right now.

The invisible place or imaginary place doesn't exist until proven, you don't know where you are before you exist, you're only assuming things without evidences.

what does the science teaches you about pre-birth?. You have problem buddy.

I don't know where I was before I exist and it's not of my concern, I've no reason to believe there's an imaginary place where I was, no evidence pointing to that, it's when we are living we started reading different superstitions about afterlife.

Why not just be agnostic in that position, it doesn't hurt, does it?

Stick to what you know. Quran teaches that if you dont know ask those who know.

^^^


**MODIFIED**

tintingz:
How does this relates to the imaginary place we're talking about? We don't remember our pre-birth because our brain hasn't fully developed then.

Before you exist, before becoming a sperm or in any physical place where were you?


Womb is a physical place, before you exist as a physical form, where were you or your soul/spirit or whatever it is?

If you don't remember pre-birth, that pretty sums up why you don't know Afterlife. Yet you recognize pre-birth?. How did you know there was life pre-birth or you just suddenly landed in the womb without due process?.


Before you were lump of flesh in the womb, you were sperm. That was life. Before you were sperm you were pretty much invisible yet you were living another life in that state somewhere invisible until you developed and became physical in the womb. You had been living invisibly before your sperm was dropped.

You have also been living in the womb before you were congealed. All these were invisible. You had been living also before your spirit was infused in your body in the womb. Maybe you should tell us your version of where were you before you physically formed in the womb?.

If you don't know where you were, and science couldn't tell you about your existence those times, then you need to listen here. The same way you existed before your physical presence in the womb, is the same way you have no physical knowledge of Afterlife until you get there.



Here is the radical process if you wish to perform this experiment to prove Afterlife.

Simply ascend to the top of a very highrise building, the higher the better.

Leap from the top floor and fall to the ground.


Evaluate The Evidence: If you wake up and your smashed body is perfectly restored, you have found clear evidence for an afterlife.

If falling through the air is the last thing your brain ever registers, you can be pretty sure there is no afterlife.

Unfortunately, you won’t be alive to tell anyone about it.