usermane: We can tell from the hadith that Abu Bakr fought these people not because they were literally attacking the state, but because they did not pay him zakat. Abu Bakr interpreted Hadith #4 as legally binding even post Muhammad, he interpreted refusal to pay zakat as apostasy, he deemed the apostates as polytheists and he marched his army against them. If he fought the 'apostates' for their crimes, he would have mentioned this to Umar in the above hadith.
See this line, it is bcus at that time, not paying zakat, which is major tenet of islam is tantamount to major crime (polytheism). By my calculation, there are at least 52 different verses in the Quran where Allah speaks of obligatory ZAKAT unless you don't believe in those ayat which include but not limited to Q2:3, @2:43, Q2:83, Q2:110, Q2:177, Q2:196 etc
Now, in modern day western world Tax is their major tenet. I already illustrated US for you before. If you are a green card holder and you qualify for citizenship, at the time of filing, one major thing that authority will look at for consideration after crime history is your federal tax filing. If you didnt file your tax in the last 5 yrs of your permanent residence, or you missed a year, you will never be granted citizenship until you file it. And you will pay penalty.
If you are citizen and you evade tax, you are going to jail. Take Wesley Snipe and many other Americans as a case study. Also each year, there are about 3000 Americans who renounced their citizenship and relocate to another country due to Tax burden.
Also, if you are illegal immigrant or non-immigrant who intend to change status, and you have been living in the US for years, and lucky enough to have your change of status considered, the major thing they look for in your application is TAX. They wanna see if you paid taxes all these yrs you have been living in the country. If you didnt pay, you risk being denied and deported bcus you are not useful to them. Same thing may apply to green card holder as well if care is not taken.
Now, this shows important of Tax in the USA just as much as it is important in islam. From islam and Western perspectives, essence of paying taxes is pretty much the same. In islam, it is meant to alleviate poverty. In the USA, it is meant to take care of basic amenities. From the tax you pay is used to take care of elderly and disabled. Use for provide citizens needs. If you park your car on the street of NY, it means tax is paid on it but if it is not, by the time you return to your car, ticket agent would have fined you up to $100. Because this Zakat is no longer paid in Nigeria by the rich is the reason you have many poor people in the country and no one hold them accountable.
So you can see punishment you get in the West for missing or refusing to pay tax. Even though it is not incline towards religion, it is basically painful punishment if you are deported because of tax, which means you don't deserve to live in the country for refusing to pay your tax just like you dont deserve to live in the time of Abu Bakr(ra). Abu Bakr would have spared them if they agreed to pay just like US would spare you if you make payment arrangement. If you dont, you get deported or jailed. Understand?.
Now as we speak, anyone who buys a home in America (may be NY as least), there is 9/11 terrorism tax added to your mortgage. You dont believe?. Do your research. You have no option. it is added automatically. They may have exceptions but fact is, they charge you this tax. You cant tell them otherwise.
Sammyimpostor: I think you need brain transfusion. For the fact that I said Muslims are bad doesn't mean all of them are bad. I'm not contradicting myself, I'm just telling you that you are one of those terrorist Muslim out there.
Besides, you have contradicted yourself. You said Muslims are bad but at the same time you grew up with most Muslim populated area and they are good people.
Guess what?. When you make up your mind let me know. You sound like a sick man.
Sammyimpostor: You call this hate when Muslims are the ones hating themselves. I'm waiting for you to prove me wrong on everything i have said. I you guys will always divert the topic once these issues going on in Islamic countries is brought onboard. Saudi Arabia and Iran have never agreed with each other yet they are all Islamic countries. Tomorrow Friday, you will hear Sunni Muslim bombing Shiat mosque, no wonder boko boys are attacking any mosque (I'm waiting for you to tell me they are sponsored by Christians because shekau is a bishop). Less i forget, a hausa muslim will never pray in a mosque where the imam is a Yoruba man because he sees him as a lesser muslim. The most war torn countries in the world are Islamic countries, e.g Afghanistan, Syria, iran, iraq, to mention but few. But this can't be said of countries that has no Islamic background like Sweden, Finland, Australia, Brazil, Scotland e.t.c.
I just remembered this, two years ago some Syrian refugees were looking for asylum in Saudi Arabia but they were rejected and in twinkle of an eye Australia took them in.
There is a thread on the front page about an Afghan national that Swedish authority rejected his stay and in the process of deporting him he broke and started crying like a baby because he doesn't want to go back to kabul and currently he is being reconsidered.
But let me conclude with this, it is not all Muslims that are heartless and inconsiderate, i grew up in 98% Muslim populated area and I can categorically tell you that I have met a lot of good Muslims out there that have helped me in several areas, I'm sorry to say you are not one of those good Muslims. But
Sammyimpostor: [s]Interesting, a fanatic like you will see the truth but will pretend not to see it. So you want to tell me it was Bauchi Christians that killed themselves because a Christian President had just been elected in 2011 Why Igbo didn't kill themselves in the east Muslims are the problem in this world, that is why a shiat Muslims will kill a Sunni in Afghanistan, go to Syria is it Christian against Christian? Over 100 people were silently murdered in Zaria and Zakzaky has been castrated since then not minding how his people were gruesomely killed. Until Izallah and Darika start leaving in peace then you guys have not started.[/s]
For your information, those pictures you shared are photo shopped (that's how you share lies every where and your gullible followers will follow like rams) The new carrier is called "Nigeria Air" not Nigeria Airways. You see how you have been fooling yourself? In the same way everything you have said here are nothing but lies.
You must be pained right now. Remove the clog from your eyes and see beyond hate
Sammyimpostor: Looking for Muslim Governor in Benue and, Plateau and Taraba is like looking for Muslim Governor in Abia or River State because Christian are the majority.
When you talk about tolerance i think Christians are much better. After the 2011 general election many Christians lost their lives in Minna and especially Bauchi where NCCF lodge was burnt down a several Corp Members killed, just because a Christian President was elected, fast forward to 2015 general election, was a single soul killed in the South? absolutely No because Christian are just too accommodating.
In South-West Muslim religion is known as "Imole" which simply means "Knowledge of force"
Let me remind you why terrorism exist in Islam And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter... and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah.
— Quran 2:191
Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
— Quran 2:190
Who needs your superstory?. You failed to spot media lies about Fulanis. So how the heck you want me to believe it was Muslims who killed in 2011?.
Liar!!!
Help yourself. This is Buhari restoring Nigeria while you hate. Those pastors and evil politicians know Buhari is doing good but they aren't happy because he blocked their illegal means of making money.
The First Church in Nigeria was built in 1842, some say 1898 (Google it)
BUT
1.The first Mosque was built in Ọyọ-Ile in 1550 A.D. (Google it)
2.The most recognized in history is the Great Mosque of Kano built in 1582. The great mosque was built for Muhammad Rumfa in the 15th century and was moved to a new site by Muhammad Zaki in 1582.
However, history has it that mosques were built in
Iwo town in 1655 followed by
Iṣẹyin, in 1760;
Lagos, 1774;
Ṣaki, 1790;
and Oṣogbo, 1889.
The bottom line is whether 1550 or 1582, Islam has been in existence in Nigeria for almost three centuries before the coming of Christianity.
The British came and forced their religion on our forefathers which led to lots of them changing their names and becoming Christians.
Next time CAN talks about Islamization of Nigeria, please educate them.! Islam did not just start. It has been there. If we did not islamize anyone all these years is it now because Buhari is president.
Why is CAN even screaming islamization now that for the first time a pastor is in the villa as vice president? There was never an Imam who became Governor. In benue we had a Catholic priest as governor. In taraba we had a reverend both in Northern Nigeria. Now we have a pastor as vice President.
Please let religious bodies sow the seeds of peaceful coexistence not disharmony and needless suspicion. QED!!!!
The First Church in Nigeria was built in 1842, some say 1898 (Google it)
BUT
1.The first Mosque was built in Ọyọ-Ile in 1550 A.D. (Google it)
2.The most recognized in history is the Great Mosque of Kano built in 1582. The great mosque was built for Muhammad Rumfa in the 15th century and was moved to a new site by Muhammad Zaki in 1582.
However, history has it that mosques were built in
Iwo town in 1655 followed by
Iṣẹyin, in 1760;
Lagos, 1774;
Ṣaki, 1790;
and Oṣogbo, 1889.
The bottom line is whether 1550 or 1582, Islam has been in existence in Nigeria for almost three centuries before the coming of Christianity.
The British came and forced their religion on our forefathers which led to lots of them changing their names and becoming Christians.
Next time CAN talks about Islamization of Nigeria, please educate them.! Islam did not just start. It has been there. If we did not islamize anyone all these years is it now because Buhari is president.
Why is CAN even screaming islamization now that for the first time a pastor is in the villa as vice president? There was never an Imam who became Governor. In benue we had a Catholic priest as governor. In taraba we had a reverend both in Northern Nigeria. Now we have a pastor as vice President.
Please let religious bodies sow the seeds of peaceful coexistence not disharmony and needless suspicion. QED!!!!
Ejimagift: Thank God Muric and we Muslims have been vindicated once more. This is coming from the farmers themselves who knows cattle herders from inception are only armed with kettle and stick to guide their herds. I wont be surprised if these killings were sponsored by some Christian groups just to paint this administration in bad light. Every time crocodile tears from Christians just to demonize Fulanis and Muslims. It's unfair how low we have descended as a nation. Christians were said to be training 300 mercenaries in Israel. If those ones start killings, Muslims will be blamed. Let's give cattle herders land in all states to avoid clashes, Christians will say no. What do these people really want
I said these before:
Empiree: I am afraid that Nigerians are falling to media propaganda and disintegrating the country into full blown civil war. None of these folks on the internet have met with fulanis in person to verify authenticity of media claims.
Nigeria media, just like their India counterparts are drum beating lyrics of war by constantly creating fear and hatred amongst the people. Personally this is not new to me. It is been 11yrs now that I knew about this was coming.
Empiree: Nigerians are their own worst problems. This issue of ranch i have contributed my little on it. Majority of Yoruba and Igbo are against it. Now foreigners are coming to take over. When i suggested the land should be used for ranching reserve, they think i was stupid just bcus of their irrational hatred for the Fulanis.
Now, since they can not utilize what they have, foreigners will take advantage of it. Yoruba and Igbo floated the idea of the so called Fulani colony just bcus they are Fulani. But you see some of them here praising the same initiative by Oyinbo people. By the time Oyinbo establish large ranches across the country, these idiots will become slaves working for them on their own soil.
I am really tired of the way Nigerians think. They are clouded by religion when it comes to Fulani. So if you ask me if this is a good development?. Yes, it is bcus it improves economy, eradicates open grazing and brings about sanity in the community. On the other hand, it is NO bcus i rather have Nigerian citizens to take this initiative themselves. But the way they think is very troubling. You need to go through my comments on this issue on NL platform for my submissions. I am afraid that nigerians are setting themselves up for second hand citizenship on their own soil.
And I will not blame Buhari if his administration makes this deal with Oyinbo and they have their ranches set up across the country, not just the north bcus open grazing is all over the country. You too said this is a "good development". Is it a good development also when Fulani proposed setting up ranches across the country?. Why do Nigerians have to wait for Oyinbo to tell them what to do and how to do it?. It is pathetic. It further proves that Africans can't rule themselves as some suggested. But i dont believe that. I believe religion, tribalism and ego clouded their sense of reasoning.
Hold your media responsible. They are controlled by the Christian terrorists who have infiltrated every sector in Nigeria with their CAN of WORMS.
Nigerian Christians headed by CAN of WORMS are terrorists. Don't believe the media anymore. Now they are using that b!tch musician to lead propaganda in the case of Leah Sharibu.
As Sheikh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory (ra) said:
Islam had been in Yorubaland long before Christianity but it was victimized by enemies of Islam (the British Christian and Nigerian christian terrorists and Ajayi Powder)
Ejimagift: Thank God Muric and we Muslims have been vindicated once more. This is coming from the farmers themselves who knows cattle herders from inception are only armed with kettle and stick to guide their herds. I wont be surprised if these killings were sponsored by some Christian groups just to paint this administration in bad light. Every time crocodile tears from Christians just to demonize Fulanis and Muslims. It's unfair how low we have descended as a nation. Christians were said to be training 300 mercenaries in Israel. If those ones start killings, Muslims will be blamed. Let's give cattle herders land in all states to avoid clashes, Christians will say no. What do these people really want
I said these before:
Empiree: I am afraid that Nigerians are falling to media propaganda and disintegrating the country into full blown civil war. None of these folks on the internet have met with fulanis in person to verify authenticity of media claims.
Nigeria media, just like their India counterparts are drum beating lyrics of war by constantly creating fear and hatred amongst the people. Personally this is not new to me. It is been 11yrs now that I knew about this was coming.
Empiree: Nigerians are their own worst problems. This issue of ranch i have contributed my little on it. Majority of Yoruba and Igbo are against it. Now foreigners are coming to take over. When i suggested the land should be used for ranching reserve, they think i was stupid just bcus of their irrational hatred for the Fulanis.
Now, since they can not utilize what they have, foreigners will take advantage of it. Yoruba and Igbo floated the idea of the so called Fulani colony just bcus they are Fulani. But you see some of them here praising the same initiative by Oyinbo people. By the time Oyinbo establish large ranches across the country, these idiots will become slaves working for them on their own soil.
I am really tired of the way Nigerians think. They are clouded by religion when it comes to Fulani. So if you ask me if this is a good development?. Yes, it is bcus it improves economy, eradicates open grazing and brings about sanity in the community. On the other hand, it is NO bcus i rather have Nigerian citizens to take this initiative themselves. But the way they think is very troubling. You need to go through my comments on this issue on NL platform for my submissions. I am afraid that nigerians are setting themselves up for second hand citizenship on their own soil.
And I will not blame Buhari if his administration makes this deal with Oyinbo and they have their ranches set up across the country, not just the north bcus open grazing is all over the country. You too said this is a "good development". Is it a good development also when Fulani proposed setting up ranches across the country?. Why do Nigerians have to wait for Oyinbo to tell them what to do and how to do it?. It is pathetic. It further proves that Africans can't rule themselves as some suggested. But i dont believe that. I believe religion, tribalism and ego clouded their sense of reasoning.
Hold your media responsible. They are controlled by the Christian terrorists who have infiltrated every sector in Nigeria with their CAN of WORMS.
Nigerian Christians headed by CAN of WORMS are terrorists. Don't believe the media anymore. Now they are using that b!tch musician to lead propaganda in the case of Leah Sharibu.
I'm glad this thread is not flooded because folks aren't fools. We know when a captive or so called captive is being used as political tool and a tool to insult Islam.
Your pastors are busy defrauding Church members to give up their land in exchange for good health of their children. Some of your pastors claimed to have miracles and they speak to God. Why not use all these powers to rescue the poor girl?. Why blame Buhari and Islam instead of using your fake power?.
Abeg, this is not a news but emotional trash. Let Adeboye lead you to rescue her now.
seguno2: Point of correction, his unsustainable spendthrift lifestyle makes no sense. Thank me later.
Regardless, his entitlement MUST be paid. Don't forget the vow "The labour of our heroes past shall NEVER be in vain,"
As for his spendthrift lifestyle, that's his personal business not the govt. Govt needs to do thier part. If he gets paid monthly and on time and then still complain, then, your argument about his lifestyle is valid. So no, i am not thanking you
Humchi: During the year of 2015, 2016 & 2017, there were low distribution of electricity in most areas of nigeria..
You are too blind to see how nigeria works. It is during the time of election, you see improvement.
I am just wondering why power appears stable during election and unstable outside election?. If it is stable during election, why is it difficult to maintain the stability throughout the year?. Is it politics they are playing or they simply don't have enough resources to accomplish this task?.
We still need deflation, naira strength against dollar, electricity in many places, jobs, and security.
From what we expected this govt, they have done below par.
All local, state and federal govts can do these if they want to except @highlighted. See highlighted part, no govt in nigeria can fix that. You will eat dirts to do that. It is out of your control. Not even your new president, if any, can do that UNLESS he or she concedes or give up certain things in exchange.
Otherwise, you gonna have to deal with dollar strength. Remember it used to be 86 naira to 1$ in the later 90s and early 2000. Nigeria had better be a good school boy to maintain 350 to 1 else, you go see another big jump to 500
Humchi: i have been sitting on the fence whenever this issue of fulani ranching of a thing..
I would rather want the fulanis have this ranching than foreigners.
That has been my point.
what do you think of those guys' comment especially the guy named "officialapcnig" who claimed he sold his land to Dutch and prefers to sell his family land to them rather than Fulani?
tintingz: We can't travel at speed of light and there are consequences like time dilation.
If we're able to travel at speed of light, the biological world must have already been millions-billions years after or cease to exist when coming back, it's better to just stick to the magical flying donkey part, that make more ridiculous sense.
I have told you this thread isn't for you.
How do the angels and Jinns travel?. Oops, I forgot you don't believe in their existence
notice where she said his (saw) travel is a blink of getting up from bed or chair and sitting back down while the bed is still warm. This was described exactly like this by sheikh Aboto. It means time stopped for him considering events that took place during isra/miraj which means he travelled to another world of space and time.
Long hours of travel means nothing in that world of space and time compared to our biological time. It is equivalent to how Angels and Jinns travel. Long distance has no meaning to them.
tintingz: So a great prophet hallucinated. No wonder we read so many imaginary stories in the scriptures like riding on a flying creature to the most high.
This guy is on Codeine this early morning. The same Fulani people that has been responsible for the slaughter of so many villages and humans, including babies still in the womb are the ones that wants Peace, right?
I never knew stuuuupiidiiity was hereditary in speech and thought process.
Swear this were perpetrated by the fulani or you simply believe the unstable media?
How many western countries do you see herding cows and cattles?
Doesn't that imply that they all have cattle ranches to manage their live stocks?
If there were ranches in the first place, would there have been clashes of herdsmen and farmers ?
No one can identify the herdsmen involved in the killings and it's not possible to arrest all herdsmen ... It's also not possible to take their source of livelihood and the country's main source of meat and milk...
The best and only solution is creating cattle ranches but people like you with fish brains will keep shouting like a new born baby who knows nothing about this world
You think those id!ot want peace?. No they dont. They just want to marginalize Fulani people
Yes, sell them your land, id!ot. So it takes European to come over before you know what to do with the land when in fact, we have local readily and willing to officiate cattle ranches, but you prefer to have EU in nigeria to recolonise you?. you are seriously suffering from inferiority complex
OfficialAPCNig: My extended family controls over 14 hectars of land that is very close to two rivers and an access road, I will rather sell to the Dutch for ranching purpose than to lease an inch to Fulani terrorists.
I cannot shout.
How many villages have Oyinbo set up around their businesses aboki?
Shed blood, no ranching land for terrorists. If you need it, go to sambisa.
Now read this awesome comment
dasparrow: Europeans and Americans never come to Africa for the good of the African people. They come for their own selfish gain. If Europeans really want Africans to prosper, they would allow Africans to choose which ethnic groups they would like to share a country with. Europeans and Americans gain from Africa's dysfunction, always pretending to help when they're actually busy laughing behind your backs.
^^ Dont mind the guys, they allowed politics, religion, ego and tribalism to cloud thier judgment. Let them go ahead and sell the land to EU. In 20yrs time, they will be slave and their children will curse them in thier graves.