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This needs to be revived. I feel more need to be learn from ikupakuti. |
AhluSunnah:You will be right on the condition that you provide Divinely revealed book that Sufis follow other than Quran |
AhluSunnah:Talk is cheap. You are yet to answer what is sufism?. Since you dont know it, then, dont you think you are wasting your time?. Sufism is not a sect. |
AhluSunnah:smh...see why you dont understand sufism? You didnt grasp my allegorical and figurative expression and you want to accuse sufis?. See why i am not taking u seriously?. |
AhluSunnah:This is like telling muslims to learn what Islam is from Jews ![]() |
AhluSunnah:You are still gasping on defnition of tarbiya and you want me to start with you?. Your jabata said it is kufr and i just gave u definition of it but obviously you realized it not what your sheikh said it is. So i rather push you aside for now until you get it right |
AhluSunnah:Dont get too excited. Op is my target not you. Your case is different. If i start with you now you will seize to follow jabata really quick. Your case is, you do not differentiate Sunnah. There are types of sunnat. If i start with you now, you will realize that you dont follow sunnah either. Every sunnah has adhab and wisdom before implementation. You follow zero adhab and lack proper methodology of applying sunnah. |
Really dont like engaging you guys cus y'all boring. However, there is a need to reason with AhluSunnah guy on one condition. He is saying that you are guilty of the very same thing you accused sufis of i:e "sheikh said". Thats exactly what op just did. I certainly do not agree with either of you. You the salafis are fond of saying you need evidence from "kitab and sunnah". You accept ijtihad when and when it pleases you. So if you want to stick to Quran and sunnah only, then you need to prove to AhluSunnah guy from Quran and sunnah where Allah or His messanger(saw) divided bid'a?. You believe bid'a is not divided btw good and bad but at the same time you believe bid'a is divided btw worldly and religious matters. In that case, you need to provide evidence for this. This is what AhluSunnah guy is saying. He makes sense enough but i simply dont agree with him. You deserve a guy like that bcus you salafis have made takfir of bida and kufr of sufis on several occasions. So Allah in His finite wisdom brought fought someone [AhluSunnah] who would inflict pains on you for disrespecting awliya Allah. So you should do justice by providing evidence from kitab and sunnah ONLY to refute AhluSunnah guy. "You" in my context refers to Op and his foot soldiers. When Sufis also claim that bid'a is divided btw good(hassanat) and bad, you rejected it. This is why this brother is also rejecting you. What goes around comes around.Sufis even provided evidence leading to Sahaba and tab'in and tab'in tab'in but you turned them down. Let me give and examples: it is known that rosullahi(SAW) used to drink with his right hand. He used to sit before drinking. Since these are considered religious matters (bcus many of you have said to follow sunnah by eating with right hand and sitting before drinking), therefore, this is not worldly matter. In that case, should a muslim does otherwise is considered bidi'a from your perspective. Just like trouser above the ankle. This is why i have said time and again that there is no difference btw you and Jabata. The only "evidence" you have for dividing bidi'a is sheikh Uthaymin said, Sheikh Albany said, Shekih Bin Baz said etc. Your evidences do not even traced back to aslaf you claimed to follow. So this is the reason the guy keeps saying you follow sheikh and he is very correct. In that case, you have absolutely no right to accuse sufi murid when they also quote their shuyukh. Hope you understand my point? |
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This is why Alfas said if you want to make dua (prayer), invoke God with your mother's name. Never your father's bcus only woman know who's father of her children. God will sort it out on that Day. Many men are taking care of someone else's children without knowing. You notice when someone visits babalawo or ifa priest, they are always asked to provide mother's name. In the West, any or most application forms you fill out like green card, job, even online dating site, banking etc, they ask for mother's name or mother's maiden name. They know what they are doing. |
LadunaI:LOL ![]() |
Thought this was another fire incident in Hawaii tower yesterday. |
AhluSunnah: refute definition of tarbiya from Quran and sunnah point of view |
AhluSunnah:Allah is the teacher of nabi(saw) and nabi(saw) was the teacher of sahaba. Perhaps you have yet to read enough books. Rosul(saw) did tarbiya for sayyidina Ali(ra). If you understand definition of tarbiya, everything else is simple AhluSunnah:what type of Question is this?.Question itself is inappropriate ![]() |
inagbe1:Dont worry, i will fix him eventually if he would lower his ego. Let's see how it goes. He is a true definition of dogmatism and indoctrination |
AhluSunnah:Mr. Sarumi LOL...dont let albaqir come trash him for you. I listened to him before and he was once refuted by Sufi ustaz. So you dont even know what taribiya is?. I see. I heard from jabata too asked for what is tarbiya. He said taribiya is kufr. You people have a long way to go faah. Anyways, `Tarbiyah` is an Arabic word that means development, increase, growth, and loftiness. In Islam it means the development and the training of people in various aspects. At Al-Hijrah Tarbiyah refers to the systematic development and training of our pupils in the light of Islamic teachings. It is a continuous and comprehensive process of developing all aspects of our pupils’ character and personality, i.e. spiritual, intellectual, moral, social and physical aspects. The real aim of Tarbiyah is to develop Taqwa and to put all members of Al-Hijrah school on the path of constant self purification, self-correction and self-development and instill in them the passion for truth, righteousness, justice and respect for others. The focus of Tarbiyah is to train pupils who are distinguished, strive for excellence, are self-motivated, conduct a balance life, live in peace with themselves and their environment, be equipped with the necessary knowledge, understanding, and skills to make difference in the society by taking an active role in the reform process that seeks to make the betterment of our community, our country and the entire world. The full impact of Tarbiyah is truly realized when parents, pupils, staff and other stakeholders all work cohesively together. "Verily! Allah will not change the good condition of a people as long as they do not change their state of goodness themselves." [Qur'an Ra'd 13:11] Now this is ESSENCE of "tarbiya". It is like working hard on yourself everyday to improve yourself or your status before Allah. Now how is this "kufr" as your Jabata wants you to believe? |
^^^ Too late to believe that. Your actions proved otherwise, sorry. ![]() |
They know the truth isn't. |
AhluSunnah:Well, clearly, you know little to nothing of islam. Sufism is not a separate religion and I am not here to define it. # Since you claim to be "student of knowledge", up to you to do your research. Thats what good student does. # Pending the time you will find the definition, i advice you to shut up for good in this matter of deen. # By the time you find out, you will realize Jababata misguides you. # You will have to eventually make istighfar in thousands for making takfir of kufr on awliya Allah and sufi shuyukh.. |
AhluSunnah:So all your gra gra...you can humble yourself at last?. This is 12 minutes video. Help yourself with simple and precise definition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie4YV0PTQ50 |
tintingz:OMG, i have forgotten you are no longer a muslim. Dont know why i am engaging you ![]() |
AbuUbayy1:None ![]() |
tintingz:Shari'a is divided into 2 (simply put). Laws that are Divinely ordained by Allah in the Quran. These are unchangeable. Others that are not found in Qur'an like public indecency (drinking) or public urination for instance, it is up to state. This is matter of ijtihad but still considered part of Shari'a. This changes overtime, from time to time and from nation to nation. And there are bunch in ahadith too. Up to them to apply it. People deserve tough laws to call their brains to order. Sorry |
Alennsar:Oh well, we have got to a point where facts be told, sorry. |
Rilwayne001:It depends on background. Lots of Yoruba movies I watched encouraged me more to cook by myself ![]() Ayele o Ibosi oooo ![]() Plus i am too health conscious. |
AhluSunnah:What is sufism?. This is like 4th time i am asking and you said nothing. When you did say something, shows that you have zero knowledge of islam altogether. Not even salafis here would not agree with your definition of sufism unless they want to act foolishly. Unless and until you understand what sufism is, i cant help you. I will continue to play along with your brain ![]() |
Rilwayne001:I do most of the cooking actually cus i am just too used to cooking from childhood. |
Rilwayne001:I like kitchen. no one can cook for me except myself and momma. |
AhluSunnah:help yourself https://www.nairaland.com/3616951/soofeeyahs-dislike-knowledge |
AhluSunnah:This is Abdul Qadri Jilani a Qudiriya tariqa same as his successor ibn Tayimmiyah (ki olohun ba wa ke won). He's keferi too?. Ikupakuti I de gbadun this kid ![]()
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AhluSunnah:And you think you know about Tijani and you dont know Jilani?. You are a joke. Google is your friend now. When you read about him on google, kindly return here to tell us something |
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