johnydon22: [size=3pt]Hahahahaha bursted are we? I love it when i engage muslims they make unfounded assertions only to dabble into unrelated world salads the next minute when bursted. 99% of muslims are against pedo huh then facts were provided and my nigga bolted.
Anybody trying to justify pedo, reveres a pedo prophet and tries to rationalize pedophilia by dubbing it a lesser perversion that homosexuality is a very sick mind.
steered this thread to the premise it shouldn't have been in the first place where people tackle issues that are of harmful effect on the world and leave other adults alone.
Take quick trip to www.google.com and check "pedophilia" and "Child marriage" since you badly need a definition.[/i][/b]
And then everyone clearly without any fog see the SICK MIND that potentially lurks within waiting to be set loose. . Common bring it!!!
You have no problem with an adult man having sexual relationship with a child who is not of deciding age in fact you revere one of these men and see him as a role model.
But you have a problem with what two adults who are of age of deciding and reason, decides to do with them selves..
Just take a good look at your life
Aaaaaw i quite enjoyed this night particularly this thread.
But seriously i wonder how you lot keep a straight face knowing you all sheepishly follow a man who was a pedophile.... tell me how you guys could keep up with that?
Anyway its obvious who got a life here I am my own man, i have an independent reason and moral basis based on my own ideas and mine alone.
But you? you basically base and revolve your life around a dead old arab man who had a huge appetite for sexual relationships even to the extent of screwing a little child.
Now who needs to get a life between us [/size]
You just trying to make a case where there is none. I feel sorry for you man. You talk about pedo like it's something most muslims encourage. I knew from the way you talked initially you have ulterior motives. I know how atheists think. It's sickening. What's the percentage of muslims who marry "underage child". Can you give that answer?
johnydon22: [size=3pt]Lmao. . i clearly have no ulterior motives just allergic to preposterous hypocrisy where someone tries to justify pedophilia and thinks he has the right to condemn homosexuals.
Just take a look at the utterances of a sane human who thinks Pedophilia is a less crime than homosexuality in order to shield the pedophilic founder of his religion.
Pedophilia is a far more major problem than homosexuality, it subjects little girls to unwarranted sexual relationships at a very tender age. such sick perversion can only be a trade mark of sick minds.
I started by giving you the first and main example which is Muhammed who married a child of 6.
I can paint this thread black and white with pictures of Islamic child marriage...here
Now you have resorted to lies, Mmhm quite a pity that this cheap lie goes evidently contrary to what we witness everyday, to the facts.
I[size=3pt]n fact that you think like this shows you have a better moral basis than Muhammed because going by this you should be among the % who disagree but sadly your prophet agrees and in fact practised it.
You are literally following the ideologies of a man you have a far better moral basis than...Pity. It is a very major issue and i want your hypocritical self to leave people who are not hurting anyone alone to live their lives and focus on addressing harmful issues like Pedophilia and child marriage.
But sadly you find it a good trait because it defines the very fabrics of your religion.[/size]
You see, you proved me right everytime you are so quick to mount bunch of links to proof your point. I tried to let you understand I am not in favor of pedo....I made that clear already. You have completely derailed this thread. Your problem now is you are unable to define what exactly is "underage marriage". If i want to go crazy with you, i can also say pedo see nothing wrong with them being so. Now, you need to get a life seriously
Lmao, my discussion at first with you was "if it was right to murder homosexuals"
Pedophilia is much more problem to the world as a dangerous form of sexual perversion and so i need islamic hypocrites like you to first condemn this abuse on young innocent girls and leave adults who decide to have sex with themselves alone.
Its not just child marriage, it is called pedophilia and a typical example is when an almost 60years old man marries a 9year old, do i need give any more definition than that example?
The fact remains Muhammed was a pedophile but yet you revere him and the at the same time cry foul at people who are adults deciding to have sex with themselves.
Such hypocrisy is severe!!!
It is obvious you have ulterior motives now. I dont know how pedo is major problem compare to homosick. What's percentage of muslims who married "underage girls"......you have refused to give one. Instead you referenced a report you not even sure of. Your case is dismissed.
99.99% muslims will disagree with underage marriage. You keep talking about it like it's a big issue where there is none. SMH.
Muhammed is the first i will be calling out for consorting with a 9year old, you obviously see nothing wrong in this pervertic sexual lunacy that is why you revere muhammed.
Pedophilia in what ever form it appears is a huge problem to the world whether it is in the west or as propagated and encouraged by Islam through the marriage of it's hero Muhammed.
Now we are talking. I remember engaging a man in a bar for uttering that sex with little girls are the best
i can proudly say am among the people who tweeted insults on senator yerima when he proposed legalization of child marriage in Nigeria.
Am pretty sure NLs are reading this seeing as a sane human is trying to justify pedophilia under the guise of they have husbands.
Why subject a little girl to the wriggles of marriage at a tender age when she should be in the caring arms of her parents, why introduce children to the stupendous effects that comes with pregnancy and child bearing.
And a sick mind is here trying to justify it by saying they are married?
In the western states you mentioned sex with minors attract jail terms but here i have a muslim who is proud to endorse sick ideas of marrying off little girls in other to defence the sexual perversion endorsed by his religion
Am starting to realize just how sick Islam can make a mind.
I can tell it pains you a lot for referencing our prophet(SAW). The issue has been dealt with numerous times here. You refused to define "child marriage" before you jumped on bandwagon. This thread is not about child marriage. Dont derail.....please
That simply is your business. I can never and will never conform to such hypocrisy as dabbling into other people's business why neglecting the problems staring you in the face.
Gays do not in any way affect you or hurt anybody just like you do not hurt or affect any body by choosing to have sex with a girl.
Why don't you speak more against pedophilia as seen in Islam, such sexual abuse and pervertion is far more evil and bad than two adults choosing to sleep with themselves.
I am an Atheist, you are a muslim. I expect nothing from you though just simply hope you don't join the Boom club
How do you define @blue?. How many muslim men marry so called underage girls?. That's really complex issue and another subject entirely. So dont derail.
Dont pretend you dont see underage girls in the West as young as 12-17 pregnant and no husbands but "baby fathers". Then you got bunch of single mothers. They are somewhat lucky becus they live in wealthy society. Imagine those single moms live in Nija?. It's in the West you will see 30yr old grandma. Guarantee she did not marry. She's single mom. Bunch of them. But at least the so called underage you accused (if properly put in the right context), have husbands. Their children are legit. But reverse is the case in the West. Bunch of bastards they have.
Again you are still trying to lay out your own ideologies on people. Gays will soon start speaking against heterosexuality and begging you to have a rethink and become a homo.
Who told you they are not happy with their lives, gays are ok with their lives just as much as you are with yours if they are not they won't be homos and the same time clamoring to be recognized.
Like i keep saying, You have no right what so ever to stipulate your own ideas of morals of which you expect others to conform to. Live your own life and do what makes you happy as long as you hurt nobody and leave homosexuals to live their own lives and do what makes them happy as long as they hurt no one.
Making people become better persons does not involve discrimination or killing them (like muslims do)
The only thing that can help this world is treating others with love and with my little understanding of that emotion; Love is not discrimination, judgemental or obedient conformity or wrath.
Love is acceptance, tolerance, kindness and compassion towards others unbound by any distinctions [/b]
You are being overprotective, buddy. I really did not expect anything less from you as Atheist.
MrOlai: @johnydon22. Honestly, the least you can do to help gays is to speak against homosexuality. Perhaps, some of them might have a rethink, come back to there senses and live normal life like every other normal person. As a matter of fact, majority of them are not happy with their lives! So, please, if you cannot help them in that little that way, then, don't compound their problems by encouraging them.
johnydon22: I stand against death penalty for any offence except willful murder.
Death penalty is a relic of ancient idiocy and barbarism and is totally unjust when it is spelled out on individuals who do not hurt or kill anyone.
I have never and will never being okay with such injustice in what ever guise it may come from be it in the judiciary or religious because we are in a democratic world.
I do not support countries like Cameroon that spells out death penalties for people who do not kill or hurt anyone, such judgement is extreme and unfitting of the crime.
In Nigeria gays are imprisoned for 14years, In America they have rights just like every other person.
Since the judiciary determines the severity of an action like you have agreed, why not then stick out your religious views on the actions of the citizens of a state and let the judicial arm enforce their laws as stipulated by the constitution.
Like i mentioned above it doesn't make sense to me either because i am straight.
My only problem is for you to leave others to their own lives and live yours. Homos hurt or kill nobody any more than you hurt or kill anyone as a heterosexual.
You and i love pvssys, good for us. Nothing gives us the right to impose our own idea of sexual relationships on others. .
Okay, would you agree if a country or naija for that matter changes the law to put to death such offense?. I dont support jungle justice. I support judicial process. Say for instance Cameron imposes death penalty on them, will that be problem for you?
johnydon22: The same you gave me a monkey morality analogy. . .Just imagine how you shot yourself on the leg.
I wonder how you people keep a straight face when exhibiting this type of psychological callowness...
Calm down. You dont seem to get it. Do you?. It's only hadith. It most likely needs interpretation. Nairaland guy that quoted the hadith simply interpreted it to mean the prophet(SAW) applied human Law on animal but he doesnt understand it. However, further studies of the hadith seems to indicate that there is more it. I wish i can find the hadith. It seems to be taking about a dream or some sort.
So does it make sense to you when you compared Human and Animal in this sense?. MrOlai said it all earlier actually.
And heterosexual sex is excluded from diseases? We all know diseases affect every aspect of sexual orientation be it heterosexual or homosexual.
You are still finding cheap defence to cover up your unfounded dabble into the sexual choice of others literally trying to force down your own idea of decency on others because so says your religion at the same still do not want to pay mind to things that are of great threat to the world e.g: Radical Islam.
Please let me remind you again, you are still avoiding the question i asked this is the fourth time i am going to repeat it.
Is it right to kill two consenting adults males or two adult females because they choose to have sex with themselves?
I watched the video before. The same way world of human got messed up in this Last Age, animals are affected too by same Age. Not all of them are homo. Only if you can read animal behaviour, you will realize that decent ones want to get rid of these ones. Believe me.
There is hadith misquoted by true2god a while back where male and female unrelated monkeys committed "illegal intercourse". Although it's not about gay. It's about adultery where a male monkey sneaked in female, took her out in the midnight and slept with her. Her husband found out and the next morning, all monkeys gathered the adulterous monkeys and stoned them.
My point is animal also reason. Lion may not get that kind of punishment or may not even reason that way cus he's the king of the jungle.
To answer your question, it's only govt that has the right to punish gay if it's against law of the land. My understanding is that is a punishable offense in naija but I will not support. jungle justice. If penal code says they should be killed so be it.
I hate to see two stinking phat ¥ss doing sh*t together. Makes no sense.
There are 7billion people in this planet and only a small fraction of them have homosexual sex drive.
Your parents are heterosexual because they are born that way, same other people are born homosexuals.
I myself is strongly against homosexuality not because i find it bad (they are not harming or killing anyone) rather i am against it simply because i am a born heterosexual and so i find homosexual relationships disgusting to me because it contradicts my sexual orientation
But there are others born gay and just like i find homosexuality disgusting they also find heterosexual disgusting.
Why should i try to impose my own idea of sexual relationship on another people to the extent of killing them...
What i find to be wrong is hurting other people in fact let us not always paint things mildly radical islam is far more disgusting, dangerous and harmful than homosexual relationships so i see no reason why you should be dabbling into the affairs of people that are not hurting anyone but ignoring the ones who are maiming, destroying and killing the planet and people.
I am still trying to understand why it is ok for you to kill people because of their sexual drive.
Are you not in your show of religious franchise forcing others to conform to your own religious ideas of decency?.
Let me repeat my question again...
Is it right to kill two consenting adults males or two adult females because they choose to have sex with themselves?
You still have not answered that question sir, please answer [/b]
Lies. ...no one born Gay. There is absolutely no proof for such a silly thing. Those that promote homosexual are only trying hard to prove it's natural. No scientific evidence to back their claim.
Its biggest implication so far is strange disease that emerged from it.
Albaqir has yet to respond to succession issue raised by Sheik Adam in the video posted above. Still waiting. I got another details from this Sheik in the video below. Kindly take your time and watch. Let me know if you have objection.
johnydon22: Is it right to kill two consenting adults because they decided to have sex with themselves ...?
I am an atheist and you are a muslim
We would weigh my idea of right and wrong in contrast to yours and we will let people reading this to decide who among the two of us don't know or have a sound view of what is right or wrong.
Dont get it twisted dear brother. I know how Atheists think. They are in different world and I respect that. But here, let's put religion aside for a second and use common sense.
Pay close attention @bolded. You made it sound like MALE & FEMALE consenting adults whereas it is not. If both my parents were to marry and sleep with same sex I wont be here today talking to you. Same applies to you. Can you at least agree to this simple logic?
zainabxel: So for instance if a man is raped by a gay person, both the culprit and the victim should be killed, now in what part of your mind isn't that a babaric rule?
@bolded, that's enough counterclaim.
Rape Is Not Consent. Here we talking about 2 consenting adults doing the thing.
Your hard work and focus paid off in the end. It was like a joke 9 months ago when you started. Nothing is wonderful than being in your own home and not worry about rent or landlord knocking on your door.
Once again, congratulations. I truly appreciate when people heed advise for good.
Brother, op, kindly breakdown long article next time for readable eyes. If possible, be colorful and also highlights crucial areas. That I love reading.
Naturally, whether you are muslim, Christian, jew etc. If someone asks where is God?. We all look up. That's natural instinct.
But to say He's up there sitting on something literally just very silly. Anyways, I understood albaqir's view. To me, the difference here is rather 'mode of expression' (phraseology).
A friend just sent this to me on whatsapp moments ago. We are truly living in the Last Age.
INNALILLAHI WA INNA ILAIHI RAJIUN. This is a picture of some people from Libya that created their own Ka'aba were they will be Worshipping. My Dear Brothers and Sisters in Islam this to tell you that the World have come to an End. Please Because of Allah (S W T) if you Read please forward it. May Almighty Allah protect Us from the Evil of Our time.From Mijinyawa Ali.
^ I understand. It's very stressful indeed. It's very true that in the thirst of seeking knowldge you encounter deep differences.
Truth is, we can't help it. It's prophecy at work. Just do your thing and avoid name calling of others. You can keep seeking knowledge without getting yourself worked up; so long as you dont involve yourself in sectarian rubbish, you should be fine. Islam is the ONLY Way. Always remember that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Five Muslim Countries Where Gay Is Legal by Empiree: 4:51am On Sep 19, 2015
I am my own man, i have an independent reason and moral basis based on my own ideas and mine alone.
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