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Media in the mainstream in West really ridiculous.

After brainwashing people and then poll was conducted about who's to blame for the war?

Hamas: 46%

Israel: 6%

And tonight they said Israel "proved" that militants fired rockets from densely populated area. Who is to blame for Palestinian deaths?

Hamas: Yes

Israel: No

And then the last poll seems to contradict 1st and 2nd results. They asked Americans if US is sincere peace-broker and should involve in ME crisis?

YES ->6%
NO ->59%
Media can be very stupid

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@ Betathings, pay them no mind. They are jealous. That's what it's. Most of these non-muslim folks on NL refused to condemn Israel terrorism in Gaza including pseudo-Muslim, Usermane. Did you read his hate comment up there?. He preaches hate to cure "hate". They will never be satisfied. The unbelievers have lost (all) hope. They are so annoying. What they dont understand is that their action makes them unpopular. I dont want to have much direct confrontation with them.

Looks like e-bo-la infected their usernames is the reason they behave like @$$ (donkey). Bottom line it is hate that blinds their reasoning faculty. Neither Vedaxcool nor other Muslims owe them explanation. They are vindictive extremists.

Disgusting people

@tbaba, you see, shaitan is powerful but has neither wisdom nor salvation. I guess you can spot that below your Op, isn't?

Rilwayne001: Can you please provide a link from where you got it from?

or were you the one that took the picture yourself

they are liars. pay them no mind. as you can see people ignore him and the other guy petergwu. hate is deep in their heart. the picture probaby has nothing to do with this fabricrated story. shoebat and Geller are their mentors. This guys are known for posting odd stories.

Bolivian President Evo Morales declared Israel a "terrorist state," Wednesday, because of the ongoing offensive in the Gaza Strip.

Israeli citizens will now be required to obtain a visa before traveling to Bolivia. Previously, under a 1972 agreement, which Morales denounced for being "signed under a dictatorial regime," Israelis could travel freely into Bolivia without having to obtain a visa, according to La Razón.

Israel is now considered a "group 3" country, meaning visa applications must be reviewed by the National Migration Administration.

"In other words we are declaring (Israel) a terrorist state," Página Siete reported Morales as saying.

"Israel does not respect the principles or purposes of the United Nations charter nor the Universal Declaration of Human Rights," Morales said, according to Página Siete.

Morales, an admirer of the late Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez's Bolivarian socialism, broke off diplomatic relations with the Jewish state in 2009, and has renounced Israel's treatment of Palestinians "a genocide."

South America is a popular destination for young Israelis.

Other South American countries, including Brazil, Chile, Ecuador and Peru, have recalled their ambassadors from Israel in protest over the fighting in Gaza.

Source:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/07/30/bolivia-israel-terrorist-state/13384989/




July 16, 2014
COUNTERPUNCH: Israel A State Terrorists
[size=20pt]Israeli State Terrorism in Gaza[/size]

Source:http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/07/16/israeli-state-terrorism-in-gaza/

Posted: 08/31/2014 8:30 pm EDT

By Jeffrey Heller

JERUSALEM, Aug 31 (Reuters) - Israel announced on Sunday a land appropriation in the occupied West Bank that an anti-settlement group termed the biggest in 30 years, drawing Palestinian condemnation and a U.S. rebuke.

Some 400 hectares (988 acres) in the Etzion Jewish settlement bloc near Bethlehem were declared "state land, on the instructions of the political echelon" by the military-run Civil Administration.

"We urge the government of Israel to reverse this decision," a State Department official said in Washington, calling the move "counterproductive" to efforts to achieve a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians.

Israel Radio said the step was taken in response to the kidnapping and killing of three Jewish teens by Hamas militants in the area in June.

Tensions stoked by the incident quickly spread to Israel's border with Gaza, which is controlled by Hamas, and the two sides engaged in a seven-week war that ended on Tuesday with an Egyptian-brokered ceasefire.

The notice published on Sunday by the Israeli military gave no reason for the land appropriation decision.

Peace Now, which opposes Israeli settlement activities in the West Bank, territory the Palestinians seek for a state, said the appropriation was meant to turn a site where 10 families now live adjacent to a Jewish seminary into a permanent settlement.

Construction of a major settlement at the location, known as "Gevaot", has been mooted by Israel since 2000. Last year, the government invited bids for the building of 1,000 housing units at the site.

Peace Now said the land seizure was the largest announced by Israel in the West Bank since the 1980s and that anyone with ownership claims had 45 days to appeal. A local Palestinian mayor said Palestinians owned the tracts and harvested olive trees on them.

Israel has come under intense international criticism over its settlement activities, which most countries regard as illegal under international law and a major obstacle to the creation of a viable Palestinian state in any future peace deal.

Nabil Abu Rdainah, a spokesman for Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, called on Israel to cancel the appropriation. "This decision will lead to more instability. This will only inflame the situation after the war in Gaza," Abu Rdainah said.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu broke off U.S.-brokered peace talks with Abbas in April after the Palestinian leader reached a reconciliation deal with Hamas, the Islamist movement that dominates the Gaza Strip.

In a series of remarks after an open-ended ceasefire halted the Gaza war, Netanyahu repeated his position that Abbas would have to sever his alliance with Hamas for a peace process with Israel to resume.

The administration of President Barack Obama, who has been at odds with Netanyahu over settlements since taking office in 2009, pushed back against the land decision. It was the latest point of contention between Washington and its top Middle East ally Israel, which also differ over Iran nuclear talks.

"We have long made clear our opposition to continued settlement activity," said the State Department official, who declined to be identified.

"This announcement, like every other settlement announcement Israel makes, planning step they approve and construction tender they issue, is counterproductive to Israel's stated goal of a negotiated two-state solution with the Palestinians," the official said.

After the collapse of the last round of U.S.-brokered peace talks, U.S. officials cited settlement construction as one of the main reasons for the breakdown, while also faulting the Palestinians for signing a series of international treaties and conventions.

Israel has said construction at Gevaot would not constitute the establishment of a new settlement because the site is officially designated a neighborhood of an existing one, Alon Shvut, several km (miles) down the road.

Some 500,000 Israelis live among 2.4 million Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, territory that the Jewish state captured in the 1967 Middle East war. (Reporting by Jeffrey Heller in Jerusalem, Matt Spetalnick in Washington and Ali Sawafta in Ramallah; Editing by Mark Heinrich and Andrea Ricci)
Source:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/31/israel-west-bank_n_5745498.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

usermane: you have a problem with critics or reformists.

[s]It is you who have been picking my words out of context.[/s]

And calling on your ummah against me. So?

Fella, i used to be an orthodox muslim, not so hardcore but often taking steps to keep the "sunnah" untill my life too a drastic turn last year.
Fella, if being a muslim or keeping the sunnah entails:

[s]1. Killing apostates and blasphemers.
2. Seeking intercession of Muhammad.
3. Freely preaching 'Islam' in Secular states while prohibiting preaching of other faiths in Sharia states.
4. Barring mixed gender relations while condoning marriages of Grandpas to prepubscent girls.
5. And so many baseless and anti Quranic doctrines, philosophies or ideals that have bound most muslims in self righteous backwardness;[/s]

Fella, if you don't know me now, you might never do. Remember, based on certain criteria, i still term myself as "muslim" except that am no longer orthodox anymore.

Sorry, my post was not meant for you. but since you chose to reply, i will be brief. I intended to detail but changed my mind.

You already broke my heart. I have tested you but you failed. At this point, it's safe to say frosbel is better than you. If i want to have a friend with someone or people(online or offline), i test them with Palestinian plights to see how they react. You failed. So why should i talk to you. I do not fraternize with anyone who support rogue State. It's haram to make friendly ties with fasiq. And since you dont recognize oppression in the Holy Land, what's the point of talking to you. Like i said, i was going to detail everything i know about you, how you got it wrong and what you need to do but you sure have problems but you perceived it not.

Your #1 solution is METHODOLOGY. You lack that. That's why you go on loose rant. When i notice changes in you i will respond appropriately.

@ peteregwu your threads like this have no credibility. Remember this thread you open i am still waiting for your proof. You kept silent. https://www.nairaland.com/1824808/german-leftist-muslim-chant-gas

You and your "chosen people" you dont know what you getting into. Many thigns you do against your own Bible teachings. You support this murderous race and you will be big for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Evi2kizVSE&index=109&list=WL

And why are you complaining about isis which was created by judeo-christian zionists alliance. Isis is bluffing anyways, it will do noting against his masters. It was created for a purpose. It's a bogus caliphate. You probably won't respond to this too. Onus on you.

u have problems with what he said but u have no problems with israel killing people, am i right ? Anyway bible agrees with him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Evi2kizVSE

Episode 1: never knew i could have cheerios with whipped cream. Only have it with milk. Will try it now. Cute baby girl right there

Episode 2: everywhere in this age. Sad

Episode 3: got me laughing yet, true.

Episode 5: reminds me dropping off my cousin's wife at work in '04 in Mt. Pocono. Was tired. It was a sloppy blvd. Has red light but man, i didn't see. it snowed already and slippery. Bro, i drove right in the middle of snow (off the street) with car upside down. All passing cars stopped. "are u okay?". "u need help?" "u want cops to come help u?". Am okay thanks but no thanks. I got out like Schwarzenegger walking out of hot crunchy transparent surface.

Episode 6: so when are u getting married (tbaba).

Finally, i really like Mr. Omar Sulaimon. Listened to his speech on zina months ago. I give him thumb up. Wow his mom was young. Janna firdau inshallah ameen. All these are recent.

tijjanioyan: go &die

Please tune down here. You don't need this. Have Adhab pls. frosbel didn't say anything offensive. And pls stop replying unbridled intruders. thanks

Kalaada: Well atleast these Christians leaders are trying to save lives, with their "quack doctrine" and if they are 419 they will get rich and spend it to help their possies and relatives, this is very different in comparison to their Muslim colleagues whose "quack doctrine" is to blow up themselves and kill innocent civilians with the hope of inheriting 72 big eyed virgins in paradise,

Oponu

TheBigUrban2: Tell me more....where did you get your phd in mind reading?

hahaha bro, I'm blessed

Chai, fellas came to see the thread but disappointed upon arrival.

@urban, thanks if you do. Damn if you don't. Vedaxcool provided you evidence so what more do you want?. should I start pounding over you that your condemnation of Israel was not enough?. despite showing you proofs you still looking for way to find fault. your reaction proves that you have problems with Muslims and Arabs. So enough. if you have problem with those terrorists, vex your anger on their western judeo- Christian backers and sponsors supplying them weapons and money. This is no conspiracy. open your eyes and get a life. We have no biz with terrorists

OP, the thing is Qur'an is right. it says the people of the Book ( Jews and Christians) will not be pleased with us until we follow their way( religion). As you can see TheBigUrban guy. They will never be satisfied. same thing with usermane guy. Anyways it's good you create this thread maybe they can see it. But fools will always be fools.

Honestly event that took place 14 yrs ago is old. They should be condemning current one which is Israel terrorist acts in Gaza but no they found excuses. They believe that Muslims cannot be victims and they deserve any negative treatments. Indeed Israel bombing of Gaza and her crazy behavior is described as angering God. Blind Christians supporting Israel's cause are described as those who gone astray. Exactly.

We see clearly how they ( Christians majority) refused to condemn Israel's actions. History records that now. when table turns don't lament. See how peaceful Muslims rule Makkah and Medina compare to islam 3rd holiest site which is being ruled by judeo- Christian Zionists alliance. See the difference?. Refer to my signature.

No Muslim govt/country bombing non Muslim country. They need to please kindly show us if there is any. Am not talking about groups killing both Muslims and non Muslims. Those are western backed. Anyways the day Zionists go down lizard hole, they will take these Christians supporters with them.

jokinexcel: even if my father is the one trying to kill me and I have the opportunity to kill him , I will do it. You guys forgot that it is the hamas/palestinians that attacked israel first by killing three israeli students and isreal is only retaliating and fighting in self defense.

Evidence please. We have no official investigation report of your boloney. Besides, if 3 Israelis were" kidnapped and killed" , it happened in West Bank not Gaza. Since Israel claims to be only democracy in ME, then it must do investigation before bombing people. This is war crime.

As for you op, don't even think for one second you can convince Christians especially Nigerians. They don't mind twisting Bible to justify their support for rogue state. They cant even differentiate btw ancient Israel from this modern day Judeo-Christian Zionist alliance.

Op, fact must be told. The fact that the crisis is btw strong and weak, it's also btw believers vs keferi. Only believers who inherited Abraham legacy and practice righteous conduct are entitled to Holy Land. God Almighty destroyed ancient Israel because of their gross violations of these conditions and were banned from claiming the land as their own. The ban is still in effect. It's up to Christians to learn and amend their stands on this issue before it's too late. Otherwise, they will go down lizard hole with Zionists. Christians of today are spiritually blind. I don't like chatting with them anymore after seeing their actions and reactions on Gaza issue. Most of them fall in the category of sura Maida ayah 51 except few. You can see their posts and responses on NL. Onus on them

VivaLaFrans: I think Hamas is the cause of all these. But, why is every nation afraid of Israel? They can attack Israel and defeat the small nation, but it seems they are scared of God's wrath.

Onus on you if you think Palestinians started this. Anyways, it's not about countries afraid of Israel or God's wrath. It's about strategic predicament. I have no time explaining anything to you. Go and study ilm Akhir zamman or Islamic eschatology. You will get the clear picture of the situation. Your questions like why West backs Israel good or bad, why Arab nations cant defend their fellow palestinian arabs etc. This are detailed in eschatology.

Op and other muslims who may be commenting on this thread, i urge you to please ignore derange people intruding this thread. Talking to or responding to them will daramatically drag you down to their low level. Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMRns4ViuEY

Interesting simple approach isn't?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZIzRB1T8ug&index=104&list=WL

PastorAIO: Palestinians did not struck anything. 3 jewish kids got missing and they were found dead. Then without any proof that it was any palestinians that killed the kids the Israelis started bombarding Palestine. Even if it was a palestinian, could it have been a lone palestinian mass murderer, or even an israeli murderer? Why would the entire palestinian people have to suffer like that?

It is barbaric what Israel is doing. They should first do a thorough investigation into the death of those kids. Are they trying to say that if an israeli kid should trip and hurt himself today, 1000 palestinians my die for that tomorrow?

I know you are christian. But you think other christians here ready to share your view?. You can correct them a million times they would still support Israel for better for worse. They even go as far as twisting the Bible to justfy their support. What you said here is opinion of many muslims and other non muslims alike. Yet, folks who support israel still trying to convince us that Israel is the only democracy. Oh i get it. I guess the true definition of demmocracy is what israel just showed the world.

Besides, "kidnapping" and "murdering" of those 3 Israelis (if at all it's true), took place in Fatah controlled region, West bank. So what's other region, Gaza had to do with it?. These chrisitans who support Israel havent done their homework very well. The truth is they support Israel regardless bcuz it's mentioned in their Bible as "chosen people".I cant imagine Black people still dump in 21st century.

Annyways, here is a link of interview from CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/03/world/meast/hamas-meshaal-interview/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

It's okay. I study akhir zamman related ahadith in most cases. They say a lot about current world events. I think it is good to know them. We need to do away with outdated ahadith like "awon alfa wa so pe" .

I think Ahadith about Najd are in the book of fitan (plural of fitna). Sunna Abu Dawud too. Anyways, ahadith that always emphasize taqwa are #1. Taqwa is begining of wisdom.

Op seems obsessed with Akhir zaman ahadith. Thats good though. Very necessary. Anyways, let me drop these.

He (saw) said (among the Signs of Last Age) is you will see "bare-footed shepherds competing with one another in construction of highrise buildings"

"Women will dress yet n/a/k/ed"

"People will have sexual intercourse in public like donkey"

In Sunnah Abu Dawud:

"(At that time i:e Last Age), when Jerusalem is flourishing Medina will be in desolation. When Medina is in desolation, there will be Malhama(big war). After Malhama, there will be conquest of Constantinople. After the conquest of Constantinople, there will be appearance of Dajjal"

Transliteration reads like this:

"Ummurana Bayt li maqsid wa kharabu Yathrib. Kharabu Yathrib kuruj li malhama. Kuruj malhama fatuitul konstantiniyyah fatuitul konstantiniyyah kuruju Dajjal"

Just typing these off the book. You may have to double check. Check out for Ahadith on Najd, very interesting too.

tbaba1234: ^ Huge joke, I don't think they should be given any publicity.

tbaba1234: ^ Huge joke, I don't think they should be given any publicity.

Bros, even though they are minority, never underestimate them. They have big guys promoting their cause. They irritate me a lot. Same in Canada and Ulama over there relunctantly condemned them (women leading prayer) alongside men for fear of being Iabelled something. I would imagine you have watched youtube videos of these women and homos muslims. It's real. Imam would say they are not ready to practice Sunnah. Remember they have been around for while. They gaining publicity gradually. Most Muslims wont give them publicity but media will.

They just trying hard to dilute the religion. The same "progressive muslim" who 4yrs ago stood by Bloomberg to increase spying efforts on us after CAIR withdrew their official support. If they dont see nothing wrong being Gay what else they cant do. Dont be suprised in the near future if 9ja drops anti-homo Bill. They use these folks to counter such measure.

Nurse Cassie & Her Muslim Patient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pWdCOFomnA&index=86&list=WL

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/03/progressive-american-muslims-_n_5645344.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

Another sad reality isn't?. who says this is not Last Age.

It's no longer news that there are gullible, unbridle people out there hell bent on twisting verses of Quran for their own selfish interest. Example of these people are Pamela Geller, Walid Shoebat etc. And you if you investigate these people, you will notice there is usually financial gains behind it. They are the kind of people the media want. They are also attention seekers.

Just sad that this kind of people are emerging in nigeria as well. But i am not suprised altogether. Next time op needs to do his findings. The world in now global village. Information are easily accessible. There is no excuse not to get oneself educated.

It's usually common to see muslims not twisting or qouting Bible out of context. That's very silly. We dont gain anything from that.

golpen: usermane

He's a confused fellow. Tricky, trying to be smart guy. I was taking my time to study exactly what he's really up to. I just came across this thread where i notice his post saying he detest the tag "Muslim". But in Sura Hajj vs 78 Allah named us Muslims. He sounds like one of those ibn Shaitan. Clearly from his latest activities, he has problem with Muslims, Arabs, Arabic Quran etc

@Tbaba, this is for you. I read your 2012 posts. I think the thread was initiated by LagosShia but I didnt get to finish it before i lost it. You said you believe in 1-State solution where both sides live side by side. How do you think this should work out?. What exactly do you mean by that?. I disagree with that. But let me read your strategy first before i comment further. I am in support of 2-State solution with each 100% independent. Let me stop here. Please do reply. Thanks