₦airaland Forum

Beremx:
That's a government that has her people at heart. What has the Nigerian government done to help Nigerians whose shops are locked up in Ghana?


Absolutely nothing!!

or those whose goods are spoilt at the border? No prenotice about the closure.

Do you really know what you wrote? That Nigeria should exit ECOWAS? OK
(1) if Nigeria exit that means our Nigerian goods that are of high demand in west Africa such as electric wire, water tanks, cement, iron rod, glass, electrical gargets, eggs, shoes etc will not enjoy the ETLS benefit so it will be declared as imports and high duty paid.
(2) that means if a Nigerian wants to travel to Senegal or Benin he will apply for Visa
(3) those Nigerians in these ECOWAS will be illegal migrants and if deported do you have a job for them? Instead of you to challenge the government to provide good roads and electricity so that we can be like the rest of west Africa. My dear Nigerian road is the worst among all the west Africa road even light too yet we claim African power

Angelfrost:
Both of them are distinct and not mutually inclusive... However, both can be done concurrently.

Enabling businesses to grow will not happen overnight. It is a long term process...

Let me reiterate this sir, Border closure is not merely to help the rice sector (imposing high import duties can make the price go up, and push consumers to local products, without need to close borders). Border closure is more encompassing and far-reaching: Influx of weapons to insurgents, smuggling of contrabands and evasion of taxes, etc.

At the end, it's all geared towards our collective national and economic safety.

it's difficult to smuggle weapons at the border but easier at the port because port doesn't have scanning machine instead they do physical examination. Goods that passes the border are dutiable just like the port with the same fee depending on the content or country of original. You haven't met me nor know me but if you have to believe please make out time to visit these places. There are things I can't say online. Also yardua has increased the duty of rice in the past to 120% from 35% but didn't work. Do you know how many check points are there from the borders to the city? Compare that to the port? Please get your fact

Angelfrost:
Brother, with all due respect, you are taking a very shallow and dim view of this border closure issue.

The border situation is just an aspect of a holistic approach to sanitize immigration, trans-border trade, quell smuggling, and directly/indirectly improve profits of local manufacturers of the same products we have been bringing in from other nations...

Great change begins with small changes... I have done my research, you should do yours. Most farmers are smiling as at today, local industries are generating more dividends with high likelihood of expanding soon, with consequent increase in employment... The people largely frazzled by all these are those who largely indulge in trans-border trade (Mostly smugglers).

All these are economic steps, with more soon to follow... The country is now generating more from taxes... Corruption in the downstream sector, including oil bunkering is largely reduced... Once the economic team takes the bold step to fully deregulate the downstream sector, and remove subsidy, huge tons of revenue will be generated...

Reforms in the power, labour, infrastructure sectors will be implemented too... I know I sound dreamy, but what else is there sir??! Get depressed and disillusioned??! Nah... The way forward is to look within and make internal changes, not constantly looking abroad!!!

companies and farmers making profit with high price of goods and constant purchasing power? In scale of preference, between closing the border to help rice sector and providing enabling environment for businesses to grow which comes first? And which one will employ more in Long and short run? Which one will reduce the pain of the citizens in long and short run? I hope my questions aren't shallow?

Angelfrost:
You are right... But, what do you want over 30 million business people to do (Most into small and medium scale business)??!... The least we can do in the face of these daunting challenges is patronize them fully, if not solely. Not everyone has the wherewithal to relocate... in other words, those doing business outside here are terribly small compared to those slugging it out here.

Nigeria, good or bad, is all over 100 million people have...

is closing the border the solution to our problems? Do you know that if electricity and good roads are provided and loans for business minds it will generate employments more than what rice can provide for us.

Angelfrost:
If push comes to shove, the growth of Nigeria local industry is a bigger priority than how well Nigerian owned businesses fare beyond these shores... It's quite simple sir.

can you boast that government policy has been fair to local businesses ? No electricity to help business instead its the final consumer who pays the high cost of goods, no good road to transport goods from point to point, do we have insurance cover for our goods. What of health Care? If you have been to these west Africa countries you will know that Nigeria is the worst place to do businesses. our production cost is highest because of no constant power ,different taxes from local, state and federal government,

ManirBK:
Why will you sell it, why not loan it to us to be paid monthly or as the case maybe, or mortgage it to us. The so called big men will hijack it now and turn it to their own mistchew

mortgage in Nigeria? Do we have a system for mortgage in Nigeria? How many Nigerian has insurance cover? How many Nigerian can predict or plan with his next 5 years income with this crazy government policies that can distroy business and sack of workers are high

SamOyovwi:
It is an opportunity for us here. We've thrown billions to these small Africans countries

do you people think of those doing legitimate business at the border? Do you know there are destinations that has no port? How do those doing business with such destination cope? Do you know that these are tax and duty payers? My clients lost ginger due for export to Mali worth #24m at the border because of the closure. Do you know the agony these people who collect loans from banks go through because of the damages this closure has caused? Some have an LPO to export seseme seed and other perishables to non sea countries. My dear the agony is endless.

Angelfrost:
Let me get this right... You want the few Nigerians outside to flourish at the expense of the millions more toiling in Nigeria??!... Smh.

Has Nigeria not gotten to the level where she should be exporting more, and importing far less??!... Let's be less self-centered and more patriotic.

your point?

efighter:
Are you into smuggling of contraband goods and hard drugs or human trafficking? Those are the people suffering.

so those doing legitimate business at the border like the clearing agents, poultry farmers whose eggs are mostly purchased by the beninious are happy? Those who export goods to countries like Chad, Niger, Mali and bukinafaso should use the sea port? Please always get your fact

Pavarottii:
Makinde not like that... I believe this Kia are cheaper than innoson... He is only trying to cut cost

buy Nigeria grow Nigeria is the slogan whichout any clause

ZZ22:
bro no need bringing Innoson here, weather he buys or doesn't buy from from him Innoson will still thrive.

but they can force us to buy local rice? Is this not a capital flight? Who is fooling who?

Asquare84:
dont mind them did the border closure include export from nigerian

yea it does

Advancedman:
Pls get education

please explain. Nigerchin, stroex tank, eleganza are some of the few companies who have customers in all the west Africa.

Some of the guys from neighbouring countries who buy goods from nigeria will look for another alternative. It is not good for business. This will affect traders in nigeria who supply goods to these guys who come from these countries.

LAGOS – As the impact of the closure of Nigerian land borders continues to bite, more than 98 firms operating in the country have relocated to other countries in West Africa in the past three weeks, while others have lost millions of naira and are near collapse.

Comrade Saviour Iche, the national president of the Association of Micro-Entrepreneurs of Nigeria (AMEN), made the disclosure while speaking at a press conference in Lagos at the weekend.

He stated the said the companies moved to other countries because of the negative impact the border closure was having on their businesses, adding that many others will follow suit if the situation persist.

He said that operating environment in other countries in west Africa are better, adding that governments of other countries offer incentives and support to entrepreneurs.

He said the closure of the borders has had some positive effect like increased revenue for the government, but argued that the negative impact was greater on the general economy.

According to him, there are many Nigerian businesses that export their goods and services across Nigerian borders, adding that most of these companies are losing millions of naira on a daily basis.

Iche disclosed that many of them have reduced their operations and their number of workers, adding that if the situation continues, many of them will close shop soon.

https://www.independent.ng/border-closure-98-firms-relocate-others-lose-millions/?fbclid=IwAR3mTW7Mb8pnzStjx9YU89kEBHEV2CR3fgq6YYyJ63tv7aD2i6WBCH75e7A

babythug:
Let it be!


You all should keep reaching out to ensure the communication lines don’t completely shut off!
But beyond exchanging pleasantries and generally cordial stuff let him be.

If we ask for his side of things, he will surely have something to say in his defence.

It can sometimes be overwhelming when the entire family is looking up to one child or sibling for finances but it is what it is!

The rest of you focus on making even more success of what you currently have!

do you know the joy in helping your families? I used to reason the way you talked until I realized that wealth is not the amount you have but the no of people you helped. In the long run these people will become your security and prayer warrior. We are our parents living testimony

Tolumiide:
Best decision ever from any civilian government in Nigeria. A smart Nigerian should look at how to take advantage of this opportunity and grow.

smart Nigerian? Without loan to fulfil his or her idea?

Dozzywest:
primarily those worst hit are local farmers and traders within other sub saharan Africa. As long as we remain independent in the literally sense of it and producing what we consume here. The main objective is to encourage domestic production, and I think that the agricultural sector and SMEs are key areas to be looked into. Buhari and his economic advisers should be religious enough to carry us all along with these plans.

how many new manufacturer can access loan to start business?

Olominira:
We'll actually force it . This is not 1900.

how are we going to force it?

Olominira:
This is nothing compares to what enter through the border.

the Benin security is so tight that goods like ammunition will be difficult to pass through their border. Confirm from their custom or police.

Olominira:
Yes, I'm agreeing with you again. Do you know that, the weapons in the hands of criminals passed through those borders? The border closure is the solution to the bolded because Nigeria do not manufacture weapons.

do you know that the politicians were the ones who gave these criminals weapons during election. Most of these weapons come through the port https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://punchng.com/seized-arms-cargo-clearing-drags-at-apapa-port/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiO_6LF-aLlAhUlQEEAHfpTAJ4QFjAAegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw2mKf1JhHRZzL2FYEFubGsm&ampcf=1 also https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://punchng.com/seized-arms-cargo-clearing-drags-at-apapa-port/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiO_6LF-aLlAhUlQEEAHfpTAJ4QFjAAegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw2mKf1JhHRZzL2FYEFubGsm&ampcf=1also these politicians license to guns and they give it out to their thugs who won't return it back

Olominira:
The border closure would get manufacturers that are relocating from Nigeria to Ghana to have a second thought. You're leaving Nigeria for Ghana, at the same time targeting Nigerian markets. Ghana and other neighbors are actually more favoured to benefit from the African Continental Free Trade Agreement where companies would be setting up their offices and factories in neighboring countries with Nigeria markets in minds. A development that would further increase unemployment in the country, as well as cause many young Nigerians to emigrate to these small countries and become slaves.

I can see that the Buhari economic group has seen this coming. Now, the FG needs to up her games in electricity, roads, good business policy and others. Nigeria shouldn't sell her rights in west Africa to any country, small time they'd be mocking the country for loosing factories to countries that are not up to one state despite the huge population and economy.

you can't force a horse to drink water. Let your government fix power, road,security and governance then see the magic fall into place.

buhariguy:
They should give it away freely instead to allow it waste away

you can even go near the goods because their are seal on the goods which can't be broken except by the Benin custom (ECOWAS law on transit)

ordbrandco:
lol its obvious you guys are bad at economics. The very reason they left is the same thing Nigeria, is doing, bad business practice and high cost of doing business cos your country cannot provide the enabling environment. It will only make companies site in other nations cos its evident Nigeria is not stable and unpredictable

thanks jare, a country that can't boast of constant power, good road networks, constitent policy is closing border against small county that has good road, constant power, security. Why can't government if truly serious ban generator importation so that they too will sleep and work in darkness to fix our light problem which will boost our economy than this border closure

RedCreme21:
To tell the truth, this is a drastic action the govt undertook. With all the fake and substandard products of nigeria on the market...
Before this border closure benefits start manifesting, it would take several years.

several years? Will the masses still be alive to enjoy it? Which government policies have we enjoyed in the long run? OBJ forced cassava inside flour and the price never remain the same if when the flour mills couldn't get cassava enough. GSM yes good but the charges is the highest among all the countries I have been to even when our minimum wage is the lowest. VISION 2020 is it still realistic knowing well that next year is 2020, HOUSING FOR ALL how many Nigerian has occupy government houses?

Some of the traders whose goods have rotten away at the border are also the ones who have lost their love ones and properties to onitcha fire explosion. God where is your face? # prayforonitcha

seankafor:
these boys has been resting in Nigeria shoulders al these years. All they do is bad mouth and talk bullcraps.
At least this has exposed the fact that it's high time they put some respeck on the boss name.

So you I'll rather the continuation of mass influx of smugglers and illegal goods? At the detriment of the country's economy?

which illegal goods apart from the ruce, frozen foods and cooking oil in jerry can? What of those who export to west Africa? What's of those who import from non seaport countries? Do you think Nigeria can live alone without his neighbours? When armed robbers came to attack Seme border about three years ago do you know the role Benin army and police played? No country can survive alone

9jahotblog:
hmmmm they have no clue on any channel they will follow. Everything is blocked.

the right channel he meant is sea port and I asked him how will he export or import goods from Mali or Burkina Faso to Nigeria

seankafor:
I thought they said we ain't shiit?

I thought they said they can overrun nigeria ?

I thought they said they can invade us?

These lil african infants ain't got respeck for their giants.

Put some respect on our name bitc'ches.

Since the border closure, no one has retaliated so hard, I thought by now they must have gone bazark on nigeria.

Ghana,Togo,Benin,Cameroun..now yall can see you ain't worth all the talks and chest beats..

Fvck how it turns out..the border remains closed..

I am sorry to say this you talk as if your parent still feed you. You will know what retaliation means by the time companies in Ikeja like muoka foam, storex tank, vono foam, nigerchin wire, iron companies, computer village start to downsize because their goods too can't cross the border. Just wait for some weeks you will understand that their is no minor economy

Chepos1:
Let them follow the right Chanel then.

did they tell you what they are carrying is CB? My client lost ginger worth 18m going to Mali. Please where is the right channel to export 30 tonnes of goods from Nigeria to Mali?

Just as those who said the high price of rice will come down, the tax rate too will come down or communication charges will come down in future