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achorladey:
Imagine him defending his bull dung thinking outside the box only to come back and tell us that...



When we say they worship their GODS housed in Warwick abi na Walkill they will say no.

Very pathetic.

They must find a way to defend those lying 8 old men.

Even when the same old men told them that "Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food."

cornelboy:
That's what I believe.

Good

But never force your belief on the true God and his word again.

cornelboy:
No where says babies are God's friends or innocent. Show me the verse and I won't say anything again.

Just say yes so that all of us won't say anything again.

Your religious leaders say "YOUR BABY(BABIES) IS/ARE ENEMY/ENEMIES OF GOD, do you agree?

cornelboy:
My last words Emusan on the matter.

And your last word still no hold any water.

Babies are not God's friends or innocent that was why God didn't spare them in the flood, amalek and Sodom/Gomorrah destruction.

But Bible says "CHILDREN ARE GOD'S HERITAGE AND THE FRUIT OF WOMB IS GOD'S REWARDS"

Well ALL JWS CHILDREN are God's enemies just tell your lying 8 old men that not ALL CHILDREN ARE GOD'S ENEMIES.

MINE are God's heritage and a rewards.

Just as nowhere outrightly says babies are God's enemies, no verses also says they are God's friends or righteous.

If not because you're an idiot (yes I can boldly say this) if no verse says Babies are God's enemies or God's friends, why are you trying to force "BABIES ARE JEHOVAH ENEMIES" INTO BIBLE?

You've been argued as if you know where God outrightly declared Babies to be His enemies.

There's a verse where God declared Children as His Heritage and rewards yet you have to defend GB just because the say WHAT IS NOT IN THE BIBLE. ISN'T THAT FOOLISHNESS?

We can only reason from the scripture.

At least you agreed that "NO VERSE SAYS BABIES ARE GOD'S ENEMIES".

Any reason you do outside that is YOUR INTERPRETATION NOT GOD'S WORD and you're not wiser than God who never made such statement.

God's word is clear, "CHILDREN ARE GOD'S HERITAGE AND THE FRUIT OF WOMB IS HIS REWARDS".

I'm praying that you'll be alive when New Light will come from your gods so that you can see how foolish you are that you once defend this obvious lie against God's word.

cornelboy:
Show me verses that says "babies are God's friends"

So no verse says children are God's enemies

But there is a verse that says "Children are my Heritage and the fruit of the womb is my REWARDS" PS 127:3

cornelboy:
When JWs see some new light in the Bible, they would quickly adjust their beliefs to conform with the Bible. It's their interpretation that changes.

Who gave the INTERPRETATION in the first place?

JWs claimed EVERY INTERPRETATION is GUIDED BY JESUS, Holy Spirit, and Jehovah.

Are you saying ALL THE OLD INTERPRETATIONS are just a mere human philosophy about the scripture and not directly from Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit?

This is how you'll know you're being deceived.

A lot of human ideas have been established in Christianity as doctrines after the extinction of the early church.

So does the OLD INTERPRETATIONS of GB are human ideas or from Jehovah?

JWs are here restoring pure doctrines as it were in the early church.

You haven't settled the real issue, the OLD INTERPRETATIONS, whose ideas?

cornelboy:
Even the child of an ifa priest and babalawo na God's heritage and reward

Na you talk am oooo

But God says "Children are my Heritage and the fruit of the womb is my REWARDS" PS 127:3

Where is the verse that says Children are God's enemies?

cornelboy:
Even babies that will later become prostitutes, gangster, armed robber, antichrist, apostates etc Abi

Children are God's heritage and His reward

Bring the verse where God says Children are my enemies.

God killed his rewards in the flood but saved animals. Okay.

Na you talk am, add the Bible verse

Aemmyjah:
Dpoisonouspeaker

Bible foretold that people will teach twisted teachings

Isn't exactly what your religious leaders are teaching?

By even claiming a NEW LIGHT when Paul says in Eph 4:14 "Then we will no longer be immature like children. We won’t be tossed and blown about by every wind of new teaching. We will not be influenced when people try to trick us with lies so clever they sound like the truth."

cornelboy:
Are all babies God's friends?

Children are my Heritage says the Lord and the fruit of the Womb are my REWARDS! Ps 127:3

cornelboy:
Okay God killed his heritage during the flood, in Sodom, amalek and Egypt. I understand.

The Creator can do whatever He likes with His creations.

So far so good you haven't provided a single verse where God says ALL BABIES ARE HIS ENEMIES.

Rather the True God and the Creator says Children are His heritage. Ps 127:3

cornelboy:
In a nutshell God didn't save the babies.
The reason is simply that they were not innocent. Since they belong to wicked and unrighteous parents, God viewed them as wicked and unrighteous too and destroyed them together.
It happened in Sodom and Amalek too.

You're not the first to make this point.

@bold does that then mean ALL BABIES are enemies of Jehovah? This is the POV.

Remember that's what your religious leaders say.

While God says "CHILDREN ARE THE HERITAGE OF THE LORD"

Stop defending the doctrine of those who believe they can make doctrinal error despite being inspired.

cornelboy:
You are saying God is not powerful enough to do that no wahala.

I didn't say so.

God is powerful to do unimaginable things yet He told Noah to construct ship.

So don't get it twisted

He didn't save any of them at all

It will be unjust to the just God to save few and left the other.

Don't worry babies are God's friends but God still killed them wotoporously.

God says "Children are His heritage"

Give me a verse where God says Children are His enemies.

MaxInDHouse:
Ask him what years?
Àbí you've forgotten our new light again?

So the old lights were from Satan or what do you mean?

So what if this new light became old light in few years time, it means this (new) old light didn't come from Jehovah and Jesus?

The truth is that you people can defend your GB when it's obvious they are against Bible.

See those Bible verses quoted in the magazine, who helped them to interpret those Bible?

Remember your GB claimed "Jehovah has already shown them what a verse mean ahead"

So there was a time JWs taught that children aren't enemies of Jehovah but now a new light has come that children are enemies of Jehovah.

cornelboy:
Two different stories here.
God wasn't planning to destroy Egypt but just the firstborn as a warning to Pharaoh and Egypt.

It was different during the flood, God was destroying everything. If babies were innocent or God's friends, God would have preserved them.

How will God preserve MILLIONS OF BABIES?

So you know what it takes to cater for Babies?

God said CHILDREN ARE HIS HERITAGE. Ps 127:3.

If they are His enemies, such statement won't come.

I know you'll agree with your 8 lying old men in Warwick than to agree with God.

MaxInDHouse:
Now Moses case don different!

So this is the only thing you could point out.

I know you won't touch the part of your GB claiming JESUS AND Jehovah HELPED THEM in BIBLE interpretation

I said Moses and your GB is different!

I didn't say Moses case is different.

MOSES never claimed God gave him instructions which later became ERROR.

MaxInDHouse:
You need to understand something very clear!

When it's obvious that you're the one who doesn't understand yourself.

The instructions God gave Moses was what he should pen down as RULES

What is the point of Jesus and Jehovah making PERFECT INTERPRETATION OF THE SCRIPTURE to GB when the interpretation still contains error?

Or Did Jesus and Jehovah give GB any instructions?

but when it comes to LEADERSHIP that's when Moses made mistakes and don't forget that to lead God's people he was also trying to INTERPRET the laws to the best of his ability.

So did Jesus and Jehovah help GB to interpret any Bible verse?

The same applies to the GOVERNING BODY today, we have the Bible which is like the laws God gave Moses so it's the application that they do make mistakes just as Moses did.

So the GB are lying that Jesus and Jehovah HELPED them when it comes to Bible interpretation?

So Moses made mistakes in applying God's word even though it was him God used to pen it down the one and only person who perfectly got the application of God's law is Jesus that's why he is called God's Son!

Even though that's not actually happened but Moses and your GB are different case.

Your GB lied that Jesus and Jehovah HELPED THEM CONCERNING BIBLE INTERPRETATION.

No matter how you spin it, you can't claimed to be INSPIRED and still have ERRORS.

cornelboy:
But God could cater for all the animals in the air and on land.

Yes! And don't tell me you believe catering for children and animals are the same

He couldn't cater for innocent babies.
F.cking hilarious.

Do you know what it takes to cater for babies?

But it's not hilarious to you when God killed ALL THE FIRST Born in Egypt and decided to leave the evil people

cornelboy:
Na you been dé dodge question na

I never!

So answer this

Did what Peter and the rest teach perfect or not?

cornelboy:
Oya wetin be the why wey é get

God acts as He wishes according to His best knowledge.

Even humanly speaking, everyone knows Noah alone with few adults can't cater for the nursing and caring of thousands or millions of Babies inside that ship.

But I'm not expecting you to see it this way but follow those who claimed Children are God's enemies without Bible support.

I'll rather go with God Himself who says "Children are His heritage and happy is the man who filled his quiver with them"

cornelboy:
You just like to dé chuk your proboscis everywhere.

That is why you keep dodging my questions to save face

cornelboy:
An answer for an answer. I have already answered you that babies are God's enemies that was why God destroyed them in the flood.
Am I right or wrong?

Answer that and we will move to the next question

Children are God's heritage Psalm 127:3

God killed all first born in Egypt and leave the adults who are actually tormenting His children. E get why

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you only need to study our book (Bible) with us there's no need sitting on the fence because it won't help you.

All servants of God throughout history were chosen by God to lead His people but none is infallible except Jesus of Nazareth.

So what does that teaches us?

God has given those men His Holy Spirit to help them make wise decisions but due to their imperfect condition they sometimes make mistakes.

Therefore what will help sincere observers to know that God is the one behind them?

Jesus said "By their FRUITS"

So if they're meeting up with God's will then there's no reason to doubt the fact that God is working with them.

When Jesus was here flesh and blood working with his disciples they made lots of mistakes and he continued to correct them so after he left them the holy spirit took over yet they're still making mistakes because they are imperfect humans.

But don't think God will take it lightly with anyone who stands against them despite their imperfection "whatever they bind on earth has been bound in heaven and whatever they loosen on earth has been loosened in heaven! Matthew 16:18-19

They are chosen to lead God's people in the endtime so whoever is dwelling on their mistakes will have serious issues with the same God who said:

"Face-to-face I speak to him, openly, not by riddles; and the appearance of Jehovah is what he sees. Why, then, did you not fear to speak against my servant, against Moses?” numbers 12:8

Ọmọ Moses committed lots of mistakes o!
He even did what made God say he will not lead his people into the promised land.

Yet whoever raises his or her voice against Moses Jehovah will deal seriously with such a person.

For your information that's why Jesus likens the Governing Body to Moses! Luke 16:29-31

You have not answered him.

Let's see it this way.

Moses isn't perfect but received PERFECT INSTRUCTIONS from God.

So has MOSES ever giving instructions from God to the Israelites which is IMPERFECT?

That was the question you've been dodging since not this story story!

cornelboy:
You're all boys?

because he showed you that children are God's heritage according to PS 127:3 bah

cornelboy:
Including your babies too if you have any.

NO! I'm not their subjects and I'm under the control of the one who says "Children are the heritage of the Lord!

So mine are God's heritage and not his enemies.

Answer the question thrown to you, won't you?

Do you answer the ones thrown to you?

oteneaaron:
😂😂😂

For your reference:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVvdu1DsHxs

And the funny thing is how they rose up that day to actually defend that truly ALL BABIES ARE JEHOVAH ENEMIES.

only for that JaNosense to craw behind them and created a thread on how one can FAST AND PRAY to get (fruit of the womb) ENEMIES OF JEHOVAH

cornelboy:
If I have already answered, why did you ask again

My question again was

WERE THE THINGS THEY TAUGHT PERFECT OR NOT?

Which you've been turning a blind eyes to since

cornelboy:
I'm just saying you don't know what we were discussing before you put your proboscis, sorry mouth. Only some animals use proboscis.

I know stop the lies or are people discussing in a language other than English?

Stop lying

cornelboy:
Were the babies in Noah's day that were destroyed God's friends or God's enemies?
Just explain why God destroyed them

Your religious leaders SAID ALL BABIES.

Including your children (if you have any)

cornelboy:
They were imperfect and the GB are imperfect too. It's the human nature.

I said I agreed!

But did what they TEACH perfect or imperfect?

What else do you want

What I want is about THEIR TEACHINGS.

Everyone knows human aren't perfect and God has been using this imperfect Human to do His works including PEN DOWN HIS PERFECT WORD.

So, did what Peter and the rest TEACH perfect or not?

cornelboy:
Kola and I are having a discussion. Don't interfere.

So why did you interfere in people's discussion too?

cornelboy:
I don't need to answer you too.
Naso life be. 50-50

But you already answered!

By saying Paul and the rest are imperfect

Were you sleeping or under influence of something when you did that?

So the next question is awaiting you...