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achorladey:
I notice am too, Paul who is inspired to write will be thrown under the bus to save the head and face of their GODS not inspired

He wanted to use that as escape route.

He cannot answer the question the reason he said he doesn't care about your interpretation to denigrate the importance of your point. He forgot you were not even interpreting anything but only reading and citing the bible in plain words

Very pathetic of them.

Na liars and manipulators dem be. Once they know you are familiar with their lies and manipulations they will do everything to ignore you. The same tactics they use when they are on the street preaching. Any house they know the household is familiar with their antics they will mark that house and inform all those in the group to ignore and avoid going there

Their was a thread I saw yesterday where MaxinDhouse claimed he only believe along his leaders but not instructed by them.

I would have comment on it but I was banned by antibot.

But look at this screenshot and see where he claimed their leaders only told them 1914 was Jesus presence and they believed.

Maynman:
The person speaking in tongue is speaking a human language that has constructs.
In the church of corinth where paul or whatever was talking to them about speaking in tongue, the corinth church members speaks greek, if a speaker comes and speak a foreign language to them they won't understand unless there is an interpreter like paul said.

So you can't point out single verse....

Maynman:
As stated in New Testament.

Speaking in Tongues, Greek word γλῶσσα (glōssa \GLOHSS sah\) is used 49 times in the Greek New Testament. By far, the most prominent use of the word is in 1 Corinthians, where it is found 21 times. The next closest competitors are Revelation (8 times) and Acts (6 times), each of which is more than the 5 times it is found in all four Gospels combined.

Then point out where speaking in tongues was done in the Bible in a language understand by human apart from that Acts 2.

Janosky:
Which chapter and verse of the Bible in your head?

1 Corin 14:20

Rom 16:19

Psalm 127:4

All these say Babies are INNOCENT, God's Heritage and Rewards.


And Christ seal it up with Luke 18 that "The kingdom of God belongs to such as this (Children)"

The kingdom of God can't belong to ENEMIES OF JEHOVAH.

Which one in your head to proof Babies are God's enemies?

JaNosense!

cornelboy:
So why don't you keep what you know to yourself

Just as you and your deluded brothers keep what you all know to yourself.

Hypocrite!

achorladey:
Denying their GODS and Bible sef follow join the matter

You can even imagine when he first said "That was Paul talking...."

Funny how he couldn't even answer the next question

Janosky:
Emusan LYING WAILER does NOT believe Psalms 21:8,10.

I do believe it to the core!

But I didn't see where it is written that Babies are God's enemies.

Oga, Print Psalms 21:8,10 into your brain.

And you embedded 1 Corin 14:20 in that empty skull of yours.

Psalms 21:8,10
"You will capture all your enemies.

Your strong right hand will seize all who hate you.

10You will wipe their children from the face of the earth;
they will never have descendants."

This is about adults not CHILDREN/BABIES.

JaNosense when will you receive sense?

1 Corin 14:20 plainly said CHILDREN ARE INNOCENT and BELIEVERS should be LIKE THEM WHEN IT COMES TO EVIL.

Janosky:
According to your Bible, are children sinless?

Yes CHILDREN ARE INNOCENT 1 Corin 14:20

Emusan MUMU WAILER does NOT know the difference between sin & crime

Good! That's why I said you need Bible study

So you agree that Children don't commit CRIME.

JaNosense the worshiper of the lying 8 old men in Warwick.

Janosky:
"ALL have sinned & through one man death spread to all men because they have ALL sinned, says the holy scriptures.

You need Bible study on this just tell me.

Don't be shy

According to Emusan Bible in his head, babies live forever. D

BABIES are innocent says the Holy scripture

Janosense are INNOCENT people GUILTY?

Janosky:
Psalms 21:8,10
"You will capture all your enemies.

Your strong right hand will seize all who hate you.


10You will wipe their children from the face of the earth;
they will never have descendants"

Go & tear am komot from your Bible, Psalms 21:8,10.
Ephesians 2:3 & Romans 3:23 dey your Bible?
Emusan LYING faithless miscreant.

I didn't see children are enemies of God here.

Can you point it out?

JaNosense worshiper of the lying 8 old men in Warwick

Janosky:
"ALL have sinned", says their own Bible

And your own Bible says Babies are INNOCENT, God's Heritage and Rewards.

These faithless miscreants no agree.

Worshippers of the lying 8 old men in Warwick no gree

cornelboy:
Na by force
Go and teach your family and church members

My family and church members already know that Babies are INNOCENT, God's Heritage and Rewards.

Do you know Babies aren't God's Enemies?

cornelboy:
Whatever makes you sleep at night

Babies are INNOCENT, God's Heritage & Rewards. From God's Word.

No where Bible ever says "CHILDREN ARE GOD'S ENEMIES."

Janosky:
Emusan LIAR, Faithless miscreant PROVEN himself.

"ALL have sinned" ,says that Bible you refuse to believe.

Just tell me you need Bible study on that.

JaNosense

Babies ARE INNOCENT, true or false?

Maynman:
Speaking in Tongues as stated in new testament is a known human language
And for the church in corinth.
https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1974/03/ecstatic-utterance-or-foreign-languages

AS STATED IN Acts on Pentecost day you mean.

Maynman:
Another name for speaking in tongues is Esctatic Utterances.

So how does this invalidate my post?

cornelboy:
Lol Paul was the one talking there. He's was admonishing them to do no evil.

So that verse is not from God, right?

It doesn't matter whether we are babies or not. We have all sinned and fall short of God's glory.

Babies have not SINNED that's why they ARE INNOCENT.

Until we are reconciled to God through Jesus Christ, we would remain God's enemies.

This excluded Babies if not Christ can't say people need to be like children for God's kingdom.

I don't care what your interpretation is

Not my interpretation but showing you "What The Bible really teaches"

Maynman:
Spirit*

Good!

cornelboy:
Okay

Here is the Bible verse where God says Babies are INNOCENT.

"Brothers, do not become young children in your understanding,+ but be young children as to badness;+ and become full-grown in your understanding." 1 Corin 14:20 - NWT

Notice the plus sign in from of the @underlined, it's a reference to another verse which is Romans 16:19 "Your obedience has come to the notice of all, and so I rejoice over you. But I want you to be wise as to what is good, but innocent as to what is evil."

Having established that.

See how another translation puts it "Dear brothers and sisters, don’t be childish in your understanding of these things. Be innocent as babies when it comes to evil, but be mature in understanding matters of this kind." 1 Corin 14:20 - NLT

Reason why Christ says God's Kingdom are for people who are like CHILDREN.

Babies are innocent, God's heritage and rewards.

Stop following man made doctrine.

DoWhatThouWilt:
Prakashakazakama, loboshazakaprapra.

This is not what they speak, stop lying!

Does that make sense to you?

Whatever they say doesn't make sense to me just as more than 7,000 language speakers all over the world will speak and never make sense to me.

Is that how God spoke to people in the Bible whenever he wanted to convey a message to them?

Yet you'll be claiming you know what speaking in tongues is.

Why do you religious fanatics like thinking like someone under the influence of a drug?

If you've never been under that influence, you won't know how it fills like.
Well I don't do that.

God gave you people brain to think yet you people lack discernment and keep twisting scripture in favour of your false thinking.

You can even say you're the only one with brain.

There are over 7,000 languages in the World.

How many do you understand and can speak?

prashalogomamamashakabazakakakaka...

This is your own writing not what they actually say.

that was how God spoke to his prophets right? okay o.

Go and understand the meaning of speaking in tongues.

Maynman:
You said same thing, the coherent languages that these people will speak will be selected by these spirits. The "language" there was talking about known languages not gibberish.
https://www.nairaland.com/7794656/ecstatic-utterances
These books were written in greek, to better understand it, you can try go back there.

I never said SPIRITS stop lying against me.

DoWhatThouWilt:
So the holy spirit is responsible for causing people in different churches that teach different doctrines to speak in a similar gibberish way like this:

prapra
prashakablamaliboshakakaka

How do you know it's gibberish?

DoWhatThouWilt:
So from what you typed above, the

praprarararararararshashshshshkakjkajajakajajajjablobalalalalalalalal....

that we hear today in over 40,000 different denominations under Christianity with different doctrines and believes is from God's holy spirit, right?

Bruh! I'll have whatever it is you're smoking

Are you the Holy Spirit?

The most misconceptions about this your post is that you couldn't distinguish between speaking in tongues to pass message to the church and speaking in tongues to communicate personally with God.

The day you will be able to distinguish between these two is the day you'll understand.

joewychampion:
The word tongue does not mean a strange, non-human sound or utterance.

This negate what Apostle Paul says about Tongues.

Since the Bible testifies that authentic speaking in tongues involves speaking a real, knowable language

It's evident you don't understand that scene at Pentecost.

You people will concentrate on just what the languages the people spoke but not what Holy Spirit did.

The Acts 2:4 says "The Holy Spirit took control of everyone, and they began speaking whatever languages the Spirit let them speak."

Notice @underlined, the Holy Spirit chooses to let them SPEAK IN THAT ARRANGEMENT. Which is what the Holy Spirit wants to achieve at that time.

then the fact that the modern-day practice of "speaking in tongues" involves uttering gibberish or chanting repetitive sounds is clear evidence it is a manmade attempt to imitate a work of God and not a genuine movement of the Spirit.

Are you the Holy Spirit who enable people to speak THESE UNKNOWN LANGUAGES before you can conclude to call it gibberish?

Apostle Paul says "If you speak languages that others don't know, God will understand what you are saying, though no one else will know what you mean. You will be talking about mysteries that only the Spirit understands."

So going by your twisted statement, how come someone will speak and still NO ONE ELSE will UNDERSTAND but ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL UNDERSTAND?

Myer:
If you don't mind me asking, what do you have against my mentioning the word Trinity?

I don't have anything against you talking about Trinity but my main concern is staying within the corridor of POV. Going out of POV is derailing your own thread.

If you want to discuss Trinity, it's either you create a thread about it or come clear on it during the discussion on a thread.

Myer:
If the bible is about God and Man and Trinity is an explanation of God and Man, do you still not see where this is going?

You're the only one who knows what is moving and where it's going.

The word Trinity was not mentioned by you or Max but it was the basis or your argument about Jehovah (God the Father) and Jesus (God the Son).

If I never mentioned Trinity, then how can it be the basis of my discussion?

I simply quote what the Bible says, Max made his own claim which I asked him to simply provide a Bible verse to support his claim.

So you ended up bringing what was never part of my discussion and try to force it in my mouth is what I don't understand here.

Was this thread about Trinity? No!

Did I mention anything like Trinity? No!

So, why must you bring Trinity into this discussion?

Myer:
That there's a lacuna in your understanding of the Trinity. When you understand it better you will understand my point and every other thing in the bible will make more sense.

When Trinity was never the point of discussion!

When I never mentioned anything like Trinity!

Yet you can say "...there's a lacuna in your understanding of the Trinity."

Something must be wrong somewhere....

Myer:
Ok. Exactly my point.

Which point?

advocatejare:
Cowardice MaxInDHouse Army deserter, you’ve run away from answering my questions

I hope you’re not subjecting your wife to mental torture like Russell your useless founder did to his wife

He claimed he stop His wife from commenting on Nairaland religion section even though it was his wife who introduced him to Nairaland.

Looking at some post from the moniker he claimed his wife uses on Nairaland which he also uses when his account suspended or banned, one can see that his wife is not brainwashed like him and far more intelligent than him.

Check the attached pics below

Sand2022:
Almost all christian sect claim Jesus founded their religion, including JWs. We all know it's a claim. Don't blame the JWs, what else do you expect?

You're wrong here!

Most Christians denominations never claimed Jesus is the founder of their denominations but Jesus CHRIST is the Founder of Christianity and He CALLED THEM to work for Him (even though some are lying).

JWs made that spurious claim for their selfish reasons. After claiming the name CHRISTIANITY has been polluted, bastardized and of Satan which is the reason why Jehovah gave them a new name (Jehovah Witness) they'll still hide under pretence and called themselves Christians to suit certain agenda.

Myer:
And I replied that every thing is hinged on our understanding of Trinity.

Was this thread about Trinity? No!

Did I made any point that links to Trinity? No!

There are some understanding of scriptures we can't really get until we have a deeper understanding of the Trinity of God and Man.

Of what point does this address my point when I never talk about Trinity?

You created this thread and no where Trinity appears on it.