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Janosky:
John 17:3,in Emusan's Bible is Jesus Christ the One true God?

Before you jump in like kangaroo.

Do you agree that Jesus is A MIGHTY GOD?

Psalms 82:6, did Jehovah call his sons FALSE gods?

Emusan is TWISTING the holy scriptures.

So His son is A TRUE GOD.

cornelboy:
Lol na you dé ask whether Jesus be false God or not.

You admitted that Jesus is A MIGHTY GOD.

A mighty God can't be just anyhow God.

So since you're claiming ONLY THE FATHER IS THE TRUE GOD, doesn't that need to ask IF A MIGHTY GOD IS A FALSE GOD OR NOT?

Paul and Jesus already stated that the Father is the one true God.

And you also AGREED THAT Jesus is A MIGHTY GOD.

Does that mean He is A false God?

That doesn't mean Jesus or the gods in heaven are false Gods.

They are!

Or do you agree that, since JWs always claiming that they're the ONLY TRUE CHRISTIAN then it means MANY CHURCHES TODAY AREN'T FALSE?

I love this tight corner

cornelboy:
Lol. Those churches you could vouch for, do they believe and teach the trinity doctrine?

Do Jesus or the early church believe or teach the trinity doctrine?

JWs don't believe in the trinity just like the early church. What do you think?

Your answer doesn't matter. I'm just trying to make a point.

But Russell believed Jesus is God and need to be worshipped.

So that means Russell is a pagan which the same Jesus work with and directed

cornelboy:
It's not about what I said, it's about how you answered the question I asked you earlier.

Which question?

But did you answer any of my questions?

If you refer to those people that God himself called Gods as false Gods

No! It's not me who referred to them as False Gods but the same chapter says so.

based on the verse where Jesus said only the Father is the true God, definitely you're implying that Jesus is a false God too.

No! You lack simple comprehension.

The Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD.

JWs is the ONLY TRUE CHRISTIAN.

If the Father is the Only true God then it means THERE'S NO ANOTHER TRUE GOD.and the rest ever CALLED GODS ARE FALSE just as there's NO ANOTHER TRUE CHRISTIAN apart from JWs as other parading themselves as CHRISTIANS ARE FALSE.

Very simple.

I know you're ashamed to call Jesus a FALSE God and you can't call Him A TRUE GOD either.

itsene:
Atiku should just go away.

Yet you're deceiving yourself that Nigeria will be great.

Bluntemperor:
This Atiku has lost bearing!
Which one Certificate do you have? Dubai own or which one?
You see,Nigerians didn't make mistake for not choosing your Party - PDP
Is this not a sour loser?

So because Atiku doesn't have any certificate (which is even a lie) then anybody can be your president even if the person is a fraudster & criminal?

cornelboy:
I didn't see that.
Jesus is a false God too in that case

This is what I want to hear

So why taking you so long before?

A false God created you and Michael then

cornelboy:
You haven't stop lying.

Lying

I've said yes! They are all FALSE GOD.

If you have answered that, you wouldn't be asking me this.

Since I said They are false Gods.

Do you then agree Jesus is a false God.

garykoeman:
So u are saying WAEC certificate format of 1979 is the same as 2023

You won't be given 2023 certificate but the same copy of what was issued to you in 1979.

Do you understand now?

Or you want to tell me that WAEC doesn't have the COPY OF CERTIFICATE of those who wrote WAEC in 1979?

tolue42:
I don't have una time for now

You don't need to but I know you will soon call me IPOB.

But try to claim you lost your WAEC certificate and go to WAEC for another one, then check if WAEC will reissue another one or give you photocopy of the one with them.

BabaO2:
Nothing there.
Only 3 months health science diploma certificate

And you still say "NOTHING THERE"

BabaO2:
But atiku what and where is your own certificate?
Proudly mention it for all to know

Get his INEC form and challenge his documents.

tolue42:
Can you listen to yourself?

Because my school issued my certificate twice, one for me in 2010 , and another one for someone else in 2015, but the graduation dates don't tally, is that supposed to be my fault or the school clerk that made the mistake?

Abeg remove sentiment from your mind and use your God giving brain to think logically. Thanks.

It's evident that you people are really dull.

Your school can't REISSUE another certificate.

Your school supposed to have A COPY of your original certificate in which if a request of it is needed they'll only get the copy and duplicate it and give it to the person (Even when the real owner lost the one given to him/her).

In fact, many people still doubt copy of certificate from a school, reason why they demand for TRANSCRIPT to back it up.

Yet the transcript provided by CSU still no match the identity of the certificate with Tinubu.

You people can defend even Devil but know that one day you'll stand before your maker to give account.

cornelboy:
Are those people he called Gods false gods?

I've answered that many times.

So is Jesus "A Mighty GOD" a false God?

MaxInDHouse:
The post he quoted was for you but i'm not here to exchange words with him.

Who asked you?

So read carefully.

Charles Taze Russell isn't the founder of the group that's why most of the things he knew in his days has been corrected by the founder himself: Jesus Christ.

@advocatejare read this part carefully and compare it to his next statement.

Can you see how he claimed Jesus corrected what Russell KNEW IN HIS DAYS?

The key point is KNEW.

But that was a deception.

Russell believed all what He taught was not any human origin but FROM Jesus Himself.

So in other words, Jesus was correcting Himself.

Charles and many others who were making thorough research about how to IDENTIFY true Christianity were working with Jesus who was invisibly directing them to all the amendments they were making but it was a gradual process

Then look at the @underlined.

His first claimed was "WHAT RUSSELL KNEW were corrected by Jesus" but here the same Jesus was working WITH and DIRECTING the same Russell to identify TRUE CHRISTIANITY.

How can Jesus be working with and directing, and still later REJECTED ALL WHAT HE DID WITH RUSSELL?

So Jesus acknowledged him even though Russell as an imperfect human has limited knowledge of the truth but himself and most of his colleagues were willing to accept whatever correction the founder of Christianity is making!

Look at this part again and see where the deception creeps in.

"Jesus still acknowledged RUSSELL" after misleading many into wrong teachings.

They'll try to distance Russell of being the founder for wrong teachings but at the same time welcome Russell as one of the saints ruling with Jesus in heaven

advocatejare:
MaxInDHouse please come and tell me that this is not true.

Thanks Emusan for this exposé

You expect him to come

In case you don't know, all those things he claimed Russell taught which are later wrong were the things Russell believed to have come from Jesus Himself.

Russell started using the phrase "Faithful and discreet slaves" but guess what this phrase actually mean.

Check the attached screenshot below.

cornelboy:
There's only God who's the Father.

But you said Jesus is A Mighty GOD.

Why are you confusing yourself?

God himself called humans Gods.

because they are false Gods

Are those people he called Gods false gods?

Yes!

So is Jesus A False God or not?

Since you agreed that Jesus is A Mighty GOD.

cornelboy:
Jesus himself said the Father is "the only true God" and Paul said 'the one God'.

And you said "Jesus is A Mighty GOD" which means Jesus is a FALSE GOD

I know if I asked you now, is JWs the ONLY TRUE CHRISTIAN on Earth today?

Your answer will be Yes!

Then if I ask you, are other Churches FALSE Christians?

You won't doubt to say yes! because you know if there's ANYTHING that is "ONLY TRUE" then whatever attached to it will always be FALSE.
So I know the reason why you're tight in one corner to say Jesus is a false God

I didn't say it.

But you said Jesus is A Mighty GOD.

So is Jesus a false God?

cornelboy:
The Father is the one God. 1 Cor 8:6

Now he has removed "ONLY TRUE" from it

Do you believe the Bible or not?

The same Bible says Jesus is God.

Do you believe Jesus is a FALSE GOD or not?

This is the question you've been dodging since

cornelboy:
Lol.
Why don't use convince him that not all religions are cults or at least stay neutral on the thread.

Clown and hypocrite.

When did you become the director who tells people what to do with their free time on Nairaland?

Courz:
Exactly. Charles Taze Russell was the Faithful and discreet Slave and now they believe he is in Heaven with Jesus. They even claim that they receive messages from him and his fellow Anointed people who have died. Yet, they are denying him as their founder in public.

You are right. It isn't confusion. It's deception to deceive gullible people who don't research this Cult like cornelboy.

That's it!

The other day, the one I use to refer to as JaNosense in trying to deceive people said "bearing Jehovah name (Jehovah Witness) is a prerequisite for salvation"

And I then asked him, was Russell bear that name before becoming part of those anointed ones ruling with Jesus Christ in heaven?

He couldn't answer the simple question but was dancing around until he finally said "Am I the God of Russell to have known how Russell will be judged?" to the extend that he even quoted Exo 33:19 where God told Moses that He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy. Indirectly, saying that God will have mercy on Russell for not bearing His name but it was the same God who made bearing of His name a prerequisite for salvation according to him.

You see, he doesn't want to reject Russell being part of the anointed ones ruling with Jesus in heaven when he (Russell didn't bear God's name - which means he (Russell) was not saved) but he still believe that BEARING GOD'S NAME is a prerequisite for salvation.

Only people Satan have taken over their hearts with deceptions can be pulling out all these shamelessly statements without showing remorse.

cornelboy:
Lol. You're a clown 🤡
You're supporting curse that tagged all religions as cult.
You don't have to stoop so low just to slander the JWs.
The JWs are doing far better than your church.

If you understand my post to be a support of anybody, then you are the clown here.

cornelboy:
Lol.
The Father is the one true almighty God.

Then all the rest are FALSE GODS including Jesus.

Jesus is his son.

And A Mighty GOD.

Courz:
Very confused people. Did the name Jehovah's Witness start after Russell or before Russell? Hahahaha. JW, Cult of contradictions! 😀 They don't know what they are doing in that their Kingdom Hall. Watchtower just pour all sorts of nonsense in that their heads every week.

Not that they are really confused but it's deceptions.

They want you to believe that Jehovah Witness organisation isn't what was established by man but by Jehovah Himself which is the reason you see them trying to fit everyone even from Abel into that name.

And on the other hands, they know the atrocities committed by the so called founder and try to distance themselves from him, which leads to another deceptions of the name was FOUNDED later after the death of Russell who isn't up to the standard of the scripture that Christ can consider to take up the assignment of feeding Christ sheep's.

But in all in all, Russell still found his way to heaven to be among those ruling with Jesus.

If Russell does not qualify to be the founder, why was he qualified to be among those who rule in heaven with Jesus?

You'll wait for the answer tired

preciousee17:

The whole argument tire me sef... Ever since I was waiting, everyone is just jumping up and down

That's their nature!

The same Russell came up with the doctrine of Jesus returned invisibly to this planet Earth in 1914 which is the core doctrine of JWs till today. If anything happened and JWs stop using the date 1914 the whole organisation will crumble within few days.

Dtruthspeaker:
Hey! Do you see the legendary and classic jw twist and dodging?

The liar don twist am to "the name"

Meanwhile, op talk say

1. if you found a company and name it ABC and your successor renames it DEF, does that make your successor the founder of the company?

But huncle twister don dodge am!

You didn't even decode the lying liar JWs here.

He claimed the name (Jehovah Witness) was FOUNDED 15 years after Russell but the same lying liar JWs will still claim that there has ALWAYS BEEN JEHOVAH WITNESS even before Jesus was born.

preciousee17:
Y'all are evidently looking for who to attack, both JWs and non...

I'm a He, not She.

I'm here hoping to see some big game
Y'all are refusing to respond appropriately and are blocking further interrogation by requesting our Churches, I come up and ask them to reply their churches so this argument can continue already, and i lead the way. Y'all are trying to attack me?

You don't know him very well.

You see how he was so quick to paint Russell as a bad person but believe me, he's doing that just to defend JWs here.

He is so much believe that the same Russell is part of 144,000 saints ruling with Jesus in heaven now.

So how can a man you painted in so much bad light could still be part of ruling class of Jesus in heaven?

You will see his mouth jumping around again.

Courz:
There is even confusion amongst the JWs in this thread. Cornelboy says Jehovah is their founder but their website says it is Jesus. Which is it?

These people are confused. 🙁

That boy was deceived by JWs, he knows the truth, reason you will see them correcting most of his understanding about the Bible and be brainwashing him about JW doctrines.

MaxInDHouse:
FOUNDER

The word founder means someone who found or established something.
Therefore before we can say someone is the founder of a group their believes and teachings must be established by him or her.

The name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" was FOUNDED 15 years after the death of Russell in line with Isaiah 43:10.

Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching from house to house and door to door just as Jesus of Nazareth commanded his disciples @ Matthew 10:11-13 this Russell never did nor taught all his life.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't celebrate birthdays, Christmas and Easter because all these stem from pagan traditions but Russell celebrated all these till his death in 1916.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't attach religious titles like Pastor, Prophet etc to their names but Russell was known as PASTOR Russell until his death.

Jehovah's Witnesses don't use symbols like cross or others in their worship but Russell used the Cross in his time.

From the above analysis it's evident that Charles Taze Russell can't be rightly called the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization.

So who is the founder of this group?

Let's consider what the Bible say first to know the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses then compare to what Jesus of Nazareth taught perhaps there's any correlation because they always claim everything they practice is in accord with Jesus' teachings could it be that Jesus is actually the founder of this group?

To be continued...

He did all these yet you still believe he's among the 144,000 saints ruling with Jesus in your heaven directing the same organisation who aren't doing all the above listed atrocities

cornelboy:
In that case, Jesus is a false God also.

That's from your logic.

At least you can't DENY that you said "JESUS IS A MIGHTY GOD"

So, if the Father is the ONLY true God, any other God should be FALSE GOD.

He was never called the one true God.

If there is ONE TRUE GOD then there can't be ANOTHER TRUE GOD.

Since you agree that Jesus is A Mighty GOD, then is He a false?

Only the Father is the one true God.
John 17:3 and 1 Cor 8:6

Then rest of Gods should be FALSE GOD, isn't it?

The Father is the Almighty.

Are you saying the Father isn't A Mighty GOD?

Yes go and ask God in prayers for proper understanding of the Bible or you can ask those that wrote the Bible in their graves.

Have you done the same?

LordReed:
I don't even understand what you are saying and I am asking you question but you are acting condescending for no reason, yet you want me to disprove your statement. LMAO!

You're asking me a question yet you don't understand!

My statement is very simple.

Evolution isn't fact, Variation is!

cornelboy:
You will have to ask God himself if Jesus and others gods are false.

Time to ask God Himself

If God himself could call men Gods, does that mean that those men he called Gods were false Gods?

Yes they are all false Gods because they are never The true God.

So if Jesus is A Mighty GOD then, it's either He is also a FALSE GOD or The True God.

And don't forget, The Father is also A MIGHTY GOD.

Jesus is not the "word" in God mouth. Besides God's word is not plural. God speaks multiple "words".

But Jesus is the Word of God, true or false?