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MaxInDHouse:
Do you criticize masqueraders and witches in their coven practicing their religion?

We should ask you whether WTBTS has ever critized Muslims, masqueraders, witches, Atheists e.t.c

Till thy kingdom come, that number 5 will never see the light of the day

Let me add this as number 6 from @achorladey

Can JWs use the bible only to tell me Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B. C. E. accurately?

Rosement:
Wow, they are less than 1%

1% is even high, they are not even up to 0.5%

Just 100 years of fruitless efforts in Nigeria.

And Jesus Christ said "Any branch that abides in me, the same shall have more FRUITS..."

achorladey:
They have +/- over 400,000 members and they admit that they suffer in terms of growth of membership in Nigeria and some other African countries last year.

No wonder GB can't invest huge million of dollars in Africa Halls

cornelboy:

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[color=#000000]You de even talk about common sense, common sense no tell you say the Trinity wey you de carry for head na some people form am in other to promote unity in Christianity and all that.

Do you also know that the 1914 belief you carry for head like gala was once someone idea about the second coming of Christ.

Or you thought 1914 was Russell's initial idea?

Go and read the Epistles and Acts and see how the apostles understand the relationship between Jesus and his Father.

The same Apostles told us that Jesus is God and uncreated.

You de copy and paste article here.

Are you exempted?

What effort have you made to study the Bible and pick out the truth?

Just imagine Jws that never study Bible on his own asking another person this question.

Instead you go around depending on others people's opinion.

So all the watchtower and awake publications you depend on are all your OWN opinions

[color=#990000]Acts of the Apostles 17:11
[11]And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.

Moment of truth: How many times have you done like the Berea people by questioning all watchtower teachings from the scripture?

Hypocrite! But instead you will defend the organization rather than standing for the truth of God's word.

Barristter07:
The highlighted - Failure to Carry out a responsibility , is a Decision. Which makes it a Choice.

It's not a decision but inhumane which is what the law addressed.

It's the duty of parents to cater for children, but a Parent can decide not to, that's a choice

This is evident that you don't understand the law you're reference since. For any parents to fail to perform his/her responsibility is inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Again, the law isn't about choice rather about responsibility that is upon us.

Do I have to school you ?

I'm the one schooling you don't forget.

[s]Choice definition:

Essential Meaning of choice
1: the act of choosing : the act of picking or deciding between two or more possibilities - Mariam webster[/s]

Irrelevant here.

The possibilities here are either to carry it out, or not to. Some decide not to and go there way, he decides to

He didn't decide but sees it as his responsibility. You don't decide to do things for yourself rather you take responsibility of things for yourself which is the contrast between the law.

It's funny, you had to be taught this.

It's funny, you refuse to learn this simple analysis.

When he lied openly instead of him to hide his face in shame, he'll be parading in his ignorance.

MaxInDHouse:
OK so you think it's about what happened in the past, shey?

No it's about your lie which was busted.

Well Peter and some of the Apostles had wives and children but they regretted having all of that when they have to leave everything behind as they must become BORN AGAIN! Matthew 19:27 compare to 18:18-23

Another unbiblical statement.

So don't think a BORN AGAIN brother of Christ have anything to do with families except those who are of the house of faith! Matthew 12:45-50

See ignorance.

When in the first place, you don't know when you're born again according to your demonic organization.

Now do you think any of them have children that they keep as their achievements like your pastors who taught you that you must bear children before been called successful in the faith?

So it's pastors that taught people to have children it's not God who commanded man to multiply anymore

Very soon it will be Pastors that created human being

Barristter07:
It's not the responsibility of the first two persons that turn a blind eye?

It's their responsibility but FAILED to carry it out.

So you can what the law is all about now.

This are people to whom the Love your neighbor law are given.

Yes because the law is about carrying out our responsibility not by choice.

It is your responsibility to take care of yourself not by CHOICE which is what the law picture after

Freewill is exercised where there are multiple choices.

This isn't about freewill Mr.

Can the Samaritan choose to act otherwise of he so wills ? Yes.

Yes he can which means the Samaritan sees it not as HIS RESPONSIBILITY

You are the lost person here. Seems you don't have any point anymore, hence the nitpicking on a word.

Yet I'm schooling you about simple story that even a nursery pupil knows.

You could have said 100% , are you scared ?! Baseless assumption. Arguing from a false premise.

No wonder you couldn't answer my question in a simplest form.

Go and ask them one by one, Each person will tell you when they were moved at anytime to help their fellow humans irrespective of religion ,race, or Ethnic group.

Yet you can't provide just one single instances where such happened

If any of them fail to do so to others, you are free to counsel him or her. Have done that to Different persons. It's useless blowing a trumpet here.

You don't know that JWs have coconut head, the way this girl refused help from Catholic body is the way they will discard your counsel simply because your 8 gods in Warwick have infused in their head not to listen to unbelievers.

MaxInDHouse:
So out of 8 persons in the body you talked about 1, doesn't that show you that having children makes no sense to born again CHRISTIANS who believe in leaving everything on earth and going to heaven?
Do you now see why they're not accumulating material possessions as they don't see anyone to inherit it unlike your pastors who says they will make heaven yet they want to have everything on planet earth?

But you said NONE having children....

Oh sorry, I forgot you have problem with English.

MaxInDHouse:
For your information NONE of our leaders (Governing Body) have children because Jesus, Paul, and many other faithful BORN AGAIN brothers of Christ never thought of children!

Just look at this lying liar JWs!

@Cornelboy can you see the reason why I said your brother do lie openly on public forum?

achorladey:
They can rope anybody including God into their mistakes to save their face.

Jesus did not guarantee their religious leaders will provide perfect spiritual food.

Jesus must answer for the crime of dishing out poisons through this im
8 slaves that will kill many in the future.

Funny thing is, the same miscalculation is the one they uphold as the truth today

cornelboy:
The bible gave what they use for the calculation. But it certainly not from prophecy if you read the history well.

Yet it ended up to be a miscalculation!

That means, the information Bible gave was wrong!

cornelboy:
Well anyone could make mistake out of overzealousness just like Saul (Paul) who persecuted the church of God.

It's good to loom well before you leap.

So you agreed that those date pop out by your founder Charles Taze Russell predecessors are mistakes out of overzealousness not that they actually read it from Bible nor being told by Jehovah.

Yet they attached it to Jehovah as they are directed by Him.

cornelboy:
Where is the lie?

He lied that WTBTS never RESTRICTS anyone from blood transfusion.

When taking blood transfusion can lead to your disfellowsip.

Barristter07:
Are you aware there are people that do not love themselves? Your world view is very narrow.

Many battle with self esteem issues, this one's need to put in efforts to love who they are. Sometimes it requires the assistance of friends and family.

Then this story and the second golden commandment isn't for them.

The commandment is "Love your neighbor as yourself"

When I use " Choose " , only a fault finder who doesn't care about Understanding would have a problem with it.

You're still wrong, "choose" isn't applicable here but the commandment is a mandatory.

The Samaritan exercised his Freewill. Where there is freewill, there is freedom of choice. And this choice is a good one

Another ignorance of the scripture!

The Samaritan isn't exercising his freewill but sees that as his responsibility.

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You like boycotting question.

Your reply to my hasn't addressed the reason you quoted me in the first place.

This girl died doing what 99.9% of JWs will do including you Barristter07 so stretching and confusing yourself with the story of Samaritan won't work.

Lastly, you still turn a blind eye to this challenge "Which is what the Catholic did in case of this girl but can you give us example where JWs ever rendered help to none JWs?"

MaxInDHouse:
Chai see rumour carrier!

Well it's your trouble!

Your organization signed the rumors

The trouble is in you who can't take blood transfusion while your fellow JWs in Bulgaria can

Dp

MaxInDHouse:
The government of Bulgaria was misinformed that JWs are restricting their members not to accept blood transfusion and military services.

Can you just shut your dirty mouth?

They were misinformed yet your organization signed paper.

If they were misinformed, what is the need of signing any agreement?

Delegates were sent to confirm that it's not the organization that's forcing the faith on anyone, documents were given for them to sign and they did.

The irony of this is that, you can't see how shameless you're with this statement.

So it's people that are forcing your belief on them.

I guess it's the people who will disfellowsip themselves

So it means those words found in the Bible book of Act 15:29 will disappear shey?

With your organization it can disappear

Walahi talahi you guys needs to see a doctor because i just don't understand why you're all agitating over the beliefs of a group whereas they're not forcing their beliefs on you!

Only if you can see the absurdity in your post then you'll know you're the very one who needs to visit the nearest hospital and get blood asap

MaxInDHouse:
That's why i'm sorry for you!

Why are you taking PANADOL on top of another person's headache nah?

Now the emotional blackmail has started.

In the document between your organization and Bulgaria government, they were addressed as "Christian Association of Jehovah witness"

Are you people part of Christian Association or just a deceptive tactics to register your organization?

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So you know it's about BELIEF not FORCE!

Olodo buruku....

If it's a personal choice, how can one still be disfellowsip because of blood transfusion?

MaxInDHouse:
Go there and confirm not just carry rumours on your head!

We know it must be a rumour

I guess, you travel to USA to confirm the story of RCCG you created a thread for

I know if possible for you to delete that thread because of your hypocrisy you'll have done that since.

Devil himself will be so disappointed in you the way you're disappointing him.

achorladey:
I don tell am to always proofread his post before posting.

This forum as dem dey talk for local beer parlour wey dey area...... Nairaland no be MaxInDHouse mate


Blood policy becomes restriction and personal conscience at the same instant.

When you'll even realize that the title of this thread is "Are Jehovah witness right about their belief AGAINST blood transfusion?"

The audacity to lie openly without shame is what is so baffle me most.

MaxInDHouse:
Pẹ̀lẹ́ Emusan!

Where exactly is paining you

MaxInDHouse:
Go to Bulgaria and transfuse blood on JWs nah!

You're surprised that your brothers and sisters in Bulgaria do tranfuse blood

You never see anything

MaxInDHouse:
You are so quick to swallow rumors hook line and sinker!

Pot calling kettle black!

The NO Blood Card speaks when we are in comma but once our brothers understood the system in that place necessary arrangements will be provided for true believers who wants to live by Bible principles.

Can you see how confused your are?

Just because your brothers and sisters in Bulgaria are allowed to do blood transfusion.

Believe it or not no real JW will opt for blood transfusion or military services, we will rather die than go against what Jesus commanded!

Yet you said, the organization never restricts anyone from doing it.

All these are happening simply because you've been brainwashed beyond measure to defend anymore organization rather than standing for the Word of God.

Nelidee:
Really? So why are certain no blood cards given to you people while your brothers and sisters in Bulgaria don't even have such cards?

Why are witnesses here shunned for taking blood meanwhile the ones in Bulgaria take blood like taking vitamins?

He is just an hypocrite like normal JWs.

If you didn't bring that point, he won't change tune. He's point as being that the BIBLE AGAINST BLOOD TRANSFUSION.

It's like saying Bible is against fornication but leave members to their choice if they can fornicate or not.

That's their double standard life

MaxInDHouse:
You missed the import of what you are saying Sir!

No member of the organization is restricted from taking blood transfusion or joining the military services, it's each person that's standing on what he or she believes! 2Corinthians 1:24

So don't be deceived the JWs in Bulgaria will neither accept blood transfusion nor join military services.
Not because anyone is restricting them but it's due to their FAITH in God's word!

@acholadey come and see something.

If blood transfusion is a personal thing why didn't OP say so?

What is the essence of this thread in the first place?

When you know Las Las that your 8 old lying men in Warwick are deceiving you that blood transfusion is not biblical but allow your brother and sister in Bulgaria to do it, now it's no member of the organization is restricted from blood transfusion.

If blood transfusion isn't biblical (which means it's not of Jehovah) and the organization still makes it a PERSONAL thing, isn't that a great confusion?

achorladey:
Me I am here to play AYO olopon

He didn't know we are expert in Ayo olopon

You no dey catch fun again like you said earlier on this thread?

He didn't know it'll get to this level, you know their initial innocent face but when they jam really situation their true colors will be exposed.

cornelboy:
Let's stop playing games bro.
Luke 11:18 [18]You say I am empowered by Satan. But if Satan is divided and fighting against himself, how can his kingdom survive?

That means Catholics isn't empowered by Satan because they are not divided and fighting against themselves.

God is the opposite of Satan. How can Satan be promoting God's Truth?

You're still asking this when you're the very person who claimed Catholics (who is Satan representative) was in position of God's word for many years.

Can you see that you're confusing yourself?

God preserved the bible His inspired words not God.

You're confused! Your radiator needs cooling

cornelboy:
The content and the truths of the Bible was not written by Catholics or Martin Luther, grow up bro. I think we are all adult. You should rather focus on proclaiming God's Truth.

If he's not proclaiming God's truth, how will you meet him here?

I'm not here to play chess game

No chess game on Nairaland in the first place

cornelboy:
He didn't claim that it was prophecy from Jehovah. But rather a prediction from the time bible gave.

Which means he only used his human mind to interpret that BIBLE TIME, right?

So why did you bring Paul into this?

achorladey:
See the thought process. He wants to start lying on top the head of Paul, e go soon rope Peter join am. Just like their members does here saying Nathan, Samuel prophesied or predicted in a false manner

That's how they always look for Biblical example to back their lies.

That's why they like to use the word PREDICTION when it's God who inspired people and when God did this, it's called PROPHECY, it's only human that made predictions.