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iamL:
I don't engage apostates.

But you just did

MaxInDHouse:
Ọ̀DẸ̀ ÒPÒNÚ OLÓDO!

See all the attributes of JWs in one statement!

Whether you like it or not the truth must be spoken to free innocent people from your stupid traditions. John 8:32

Just the way we're freeing people from your demonic organization.

So you can continue starving yourselves,

You haven't proven where fasting equate starving.

At least we've tutor you on that with indisputable fact from your organization that Christians aren't forbidden of fasting.

Jesus never starved himself whenever there's food around

But Jesus had power to provide food in the wilderness yet He didn't.

that's why people who have kept a close watch on him could say:

“John’s disciples fast frequently and offer supplications, and so do those of the Pharisees, but yours eat and drink.” John 5:33

Firstly, this is John 5:33 “You have sent to John and he has testified to the truth."

You can see you never know those verses you do cite, simply you know your brainwashed brothers won't bother to check.

Lastly,
What was Jesus respond to them when that statement above came?

joyandfaith:
Misinformation. Accepting financial help from any individual or organisation is personal responsibility. It is not part of JW doctrine.
We don't have the details and social media sensation may not provide accurate picture.

It's so funny how you JWs are trying to shift the blame on this girl.

Question for this hypocritical JWs!

Can you as a person accept any gift from Catholic that your organization has always depicted as "Harlot of Jerusalem" "Babylonian the great"?

MaxInDHouse:
My friend it's all a cooked up tale!

Waoooooooo

Despite the fact that this issue has started since last year.

Wait, it's a cooked up tale because it's about JWs but if it's another denominations will it be a cooked up tale?

You created a thread about how Redeemed Church was interrupted in USA from a story you read on facebook the same thing like this one, it's not a cooked up tale to you.

Well people can see how hypocritical you JWs can be.

This thread says alot about that.

See testimonies of different people up and down

Final note, why are you JWs so heartless like this? See how you people trying to shift the blame on the girl.

Question for JWs,

Can you accept anything from the group that your organization has so depicted as "Babylonian the great" "harlot of Jerusalem" e.t.c?

This thread truly exposes you JWs cunning attitude.

Janosky:
Guy , you are over dull. (Screenshot proof).

At least your GB are still dull more than me

When the four children (in your example) "PASS IT" (that sliced or peeled orange ) from one person to another,are they shared, or distribute it?

Carry out this simple practice before you come here to spew another thrash.

When Okocha pass the ball to another player, has he distributed it?

Another one from engaging in what Jehovah hates

Why using what Jehovah hates as example?

This shows you're too addicted to football

Meanwhile, what happened at the night Jesus carried out that act, it is EDIBLE something not just object.

The instructions is to SHARE among themselves which means they must partake everyone of them.

Whatever you distribute, share/divide, you circulate

At least the lexicon you posted didn't include that, no wonder you have to rush to another screenshot

Las Las your NWT is a dubious one fabricated to suit your demonic doctrines.

MaxInDHouse:
Well if you must know the fasting my own God demanded has nothing to do with whether you eat or not.

A word from educated illiterate!

There's only one meaning to fasting both from scripture and dictionary which is abstinence from food.

Any other meaning you give it it's from your deluded brain.

That's what i wanted to TEACH the OP but since he feels like taking side with you guys i have to let him be.

But the OP ventually taught you.

You let him be but still jumping around

The fact remains none of you can explain why you must starve yourselves for your god!

We're knocked that into your empty skull many times.

You people just makes God's word a mess with your traditions, instead of providing a logical reason why you need starving yourself for your god all you're after is:

We did it pain you that we make mess of God's word? Is He your God?

What is this attachment by force?

Na so we read am and na so dem tok am, we no suppose wak wen we dey fast!

Imagine the same person who claimed JWs don't have any say on what their GB says, can make a statement like this.

Truly, you have no iota of shame.

MaxInDHouse:
Well Jesus ruled out STARVING oneself when you're not keeping your fasting to yourself but expecting others to notice and feel it just as the OP is insinuating.

That's not what the OP says you're the one misinterpreting it.

At least we know FASTING is Biblical.

Whatever you do with your body whether you eat or not should be between you and your God, nobody should hear or know about it.

Yet people know about Jesus' fasting, people know when the Apostles fasted. How come?

Like achorlade rightly said: "you'll soon change month"

The initial point you're trying to make here is that fasting is equivalent to STARVING but as we can see, fasting isn't starving.

Failure to keep it between you and your God alone then it's just like STARVING YOURSELF! Matthew 6:16-18

All these is after you've been exposed.

Fasting is different from STARVING and many early Christians fasted.

So stop twisting mouth.

MaxInDHouse:
Oh! That one?
Well i don't read his comments because he is not normal from my point of view.

Of course, we know as only JWs people are the normal people

So he quoted where God's organization said "a Christian is NOT COMMANDED to fast neither is he prohibited to do so"

You should ask your organization not achorlade, your organization has proved that you're lying and Bible is true as many early Christians fasted.

then why not ask him how a Christian should prove that what he's doing makes sense when someone wants to know his reasons for starving himself.

Irrelevant! It's evident that you don't know what you're talking about on this thread the two screenshots shows that Christians can fast and fasting isn't STARVING.

Remember JWs are to PREACH and TEACH so that we can give logical response to anybody who demands for a reason why we do some things! 2Peter 1:5

That's your Own Cup of tea not what the scripture says about FASTING.

It's to know the basic electronic components and their functions.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=109138932][/quote]As usual you won't hit the nail at the right place.

The two screenshots attached by @achorlades already exposed your lying mouth.

If your organization can say: "Hence, Christians are not commanded to fast nor were they prohibited to do so" we all know you're just lying on your own will not according to your one line of thought

MaxInDHouse:
No wonder Cain killed Abel!

So instead of working on your own it's another person's race that's your problem.
May Jehovah will protect us from people having Cain's mentality!

We understand Mr

achorladey:
Na him way of twisting grammar to suit his ideology

Sometimes you need to show am evidence from his taskmasters and those controlling him in order for him to either DENY, ADMIT or LIE.

Nairaland GB is busted again

achorladey:
This line you have been repeating has failed repeatedly. When Emusan raised point above your numerous post spilling into 22000 in total within +/- 3 years

Emusan is still pegged at +/-6000 post rottennaija post is +/- 10,000[/b]mine +/- 5000. If we were to be in a race of spreading INSANITIES AND MADNESS all over nairaland for these past years you will be SECOND to NO OTHER

Adding all our post altogether is still no match to the JWs Nairaland GB post to even make the matter worst when compare with the years we've spent on Nairaland.

@color that was heavy blow

Janosky:
When you share your Christmas card, do you PASS IT from yourself to your friend?

When Emusan distribute Christmas food, does he PASS IT from yourself to others?
Emusan stupidity is very luminous

Yet the dictionary you cited never included "PASS IT" as synonymous to share/distribute/divide

Practical application of it!

Case 1: Call like 3-4 children give them orange and asked them to "PASS IT from one another" watch how they'll do it.

Case 2: Then give the same children the same orange and ask them to SHARE/DIVIDE

In the first case, the fact here is that the children will pass it among themselves as if they are playing with it while in the second case, they will look for sharp object to cut according to their number.

Anyways, I know you lack basic understanding of English language and thank Jehovah that your organization deprived you of formal education.

tollyboy5:
I've noticed alot of doctrine practise by christian came from paul's teaching who was not a deciple . He went too extreme with his teaching.
I believe people follow his teaching ignorantly

All what Paul taught are backed by all what Christ Jesus taught.

Janosky:

@ Luke 22:17
Greek 1266 dia merizo
= distribute/divide/share
Rott WAILER & Emusan LIENUS in sifia pains

At least we have seen the meaning in Greek, how come this same meaning is missing in your translation?

NWT “Take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves"

From the Greek you posted distribute/divide/share how come this was changed to "PASS IT" by NWT?

It's evident you're lost in your own lies.

Janosky:
1 Samuel 3:20 & Isaiah 43:10,21.(ASV)
Samuel is a JEHOVAH'S witness .
Mr LIENUS keep on WAILING

I know that's why all JWs are false prophets

1 Samuel 16:6 Screenshots
Prophet Samuel said :
"Surely, Eliab is Jehovah's anointed one"
1 Samuel 16:7, God corrected Samuel.
Yes !

Only if you can sense your ignorance.

God corrected Samuel, and it's the same God that told Samuel that Eliab is anointed one

All these JWs false prophets self

@ 1 Corinthians 13:9,12, call Paul's phone number and ask him.

So Paul has phone number

Paul's knowledge of scripture is not perfect.

But does what he write inspired or not?

His writings were inspired, but you have no proof he never made mistakes in his speech or address to fellow believers

@color - is my main point! So does his writings contain errors or mistakes?

Since I have no proof then we can conclude he didn't, or do you have a proof he did?

Is Everything Paul did recorded in the holy scriptures?
No !

Attacking strawman!

The writings of Paul and watchtower are in comparison here.

Paul was inspired so his writings contained no error or mistakes.

Watchtower was inspired but there are many errors or mistakes.

Peter's response shows his confidence of divine backing or over confidence , however error prone his reasoning turned out to be.

You're just adding divine backing to further confusing yourself.

Divine backing means it's directly from God.

Can God say something and won't come to pass?

Is Hebrew 559 aw.mar "thought" ?
1 Samuel 16:6 , Screenshots evidence.
"Samuel said"
Hebrew 559 aw.mar @ Genesis 1:3,6,9.
"God said...."
Emusan Stop LYING

Now jump to Hebrew

Your Trinity mentors were ashamed to see the solid evidence of Samuel's FALSE prediction @1Samuel 16:6

At least you're the first Scholar I'll see who will claim Samuel made prediction on that verse.

But it's evident the reason why it has to be because you must rope other biblical characters in your lies.

1 Samuel 16:6,Emusan LIENUS says las las prophet Samuel the Jehovah's witness is a false prophet.
Emusan DECEIVING himself

Everybody knows you're the very one who say Samuel made FALSE PREDICTION

1 Samuel 3:20 & Isaiah 43:10, Samuel is Jehovah's witness, chosen by JEHOVAH God.

Yes and never made false prophecies like your lying 8 old men.

Emusan GIBBERISH

Mr Gebbrish Weldon on oooo

achorladey:
Here still the same MaxInDHouse as captured in the screenshots below

And Mr is claiming new light

MaxInDHouse:
Chai see stupidity torí Ọlọ́run!

He'll soon claim a new light for this too

You said something about my past, i instantly tender an APOLOGY to prove that i no more hold such opinion.

because I know it's hypocrisy that leads you to that, besides you didn't offend me in the first place because I know you in and out.

Now you want to compare that to the proof i brought out to help you see that the people you're forming alliance with no longer believe in God's word.

@color - where did I form alliance with anybody? See another lie.

When i brought out the evidence did the guy say he no longer holds such opinion?

Yes he did just as you claimed a new light for your hypocrisy.

Have you seen any of his posts that proves he now believe God's word?

That's not my problem, my point is you can dig up on someone's past when you're claiming you don't dwell in the past.

See Emusan, your intense hatred for God's people will never yield anything good.

Emotional blackmail at work, I'm used to it

You're saying someone should accept your God when the person debunking that same God is right there beside you saying your God doesn't exist!

Where did I say you should ACCEPT MY GOD?

You mean the person you dug up his past is at my side

Haba! Why not help your friend next to you first before thinking of Jehovah's Witnesses who already declared their own God is totally different from yours?

You must be living in my hood to have known he is next to me.

Just the same JWs can't help their friends but busy disturbing The true followers of Christ.

Janosky:
Lu 22:17 is in Rottennaija head but not in the Bible

The Screenshots & lexicon of Luke 22:17 proven Your st√pidity is luminous.

Greek 1266 dia merizo
= distribute/divide/share


Bible > Luke > Chapter 22 > Verse 17

New American Standard Bible
And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; [NWT:“Take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves

NASB 1995
And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; [NWT:“Take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves

NASB 1977
And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; [NWT:“Take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves

Amplified Bible
And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; [NWT:“Take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves

Christian Standard Bible
Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks, he said, “Take this and share it among yourselves. [NWT:“Take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Then He took a cup, and after giving thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves. [NWT:“Take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves
Rott WAILER continue WAILING

It's just so shameful how you pride in your ignorance!

Despite the fact that you brought different translations and lexicon yet you couldn't see how NWT differs from all of them.

I've placed NWT side by side of the translations you run to, see for yourself how they both mean the same thing.

MaxInDHouse:
God's children don't dwell on the past, once they learn new things they yield immediately.

So you just learnt not to be hypocrite this year

I'm sorry for whatever i did wrong in the past so if you want to engage me in a discussion try to stop living in the past and think of the present and future.
Ìgbà ò lọ bí òréré, ayé ò lọ bí ọ̀pá ìbọn!

This is the same hypocrisy I do talk about.

But you can go back to another person's past by digging up a post he made five years ago (2016) but here you are claiming you don't deal with past.

You see, this your cunning life won't help you unless you totally surrender to the Lordship of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Janosky:
This Mr LIENUS eehnn !!!!
Mr LIAR, Prophet Samuel's prediction was Eliab is God's anointed one,1 Samuel 16:6.
In other words, Eliab is the anointed (meaning "chosen" by God.
Stop deceiving yourself,Mr LIENUS. ;

Thou Samuel never claimed God is the who instructed him to choose Eliab then according to you.

Which means both Samuel and JWs are false prophets.

Then this thread is dead on arrival.

Emusan LIENUS,why do you DECEIVE yourself?
1 Samuel 3:20, Prophet Samuel , JEHOVAH's prophet called by the true God made the FALSE prediction of 1 Samuel 16:6.
Face that bitter truth in your Bible

Olodo that didn't even know different between when God speak and when human used their perception.

Samuel used his human perception reason while God corrected him. Even the verse made this clear "6 When they arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and thought, “Surely the Lord’s anointed stands here before the Lord.”

Mumu post,go ask Jesusjnr, your fellow Trinity slave. Peruse his thread[/b]
Writing is a practice, a work you do, a doing.
1 Corinthians 13:9,12 Did Paul ever tell you, Emusan he ABSOLUTELY KNOWS everything?

You haven't answered my question!

Did what Paul write contained error or mistakes?

Did the Bible give Emusan the record of everything Paul did in his lifetime?

No because Bible wasn't about Paul but God used him to pen down His word which contains no error or mistakes that's why you consider Paul's writings as INSPIRED.

Did Peter know that Matthew 26:31 is holy scriptures?
Yes !
Yet, @ Matthew 26:35, would the disciples believe their prediction was what you term "just human perceptions" ?
No !
Recall what Peter told Jesus earlier: "be kind to yourself,Lord. Nothing go happen!"
Peter was confident of divine backing.
But Jesus knew better.

This is your own assumption, if Peter was confident with divine backing at least Jesus will commend him just as Jesus did when the same Peter said Jesus is the Son of God.

For Jesus to rebuke him means that's not what God says but just Peter own perception which is not a prophecy.

1 Samuel 3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:16.
Deal with the bitter truth in your Bible.

I've given you Bible study on that

Yes,
In the same manner, the failed prediction of 1 Samuel 16:6 & Matthew 26:35,deal with it.

Samuel "THOUGHT" get that into your empty skull.

Romans 15:4, learn that lesson and move on.
Stop WAILING upandan over split milk.

Las Las JWs are false prophets which Deu 16:22 addressed.

So this thread that makes it looks like they aren't is dead on arrival. Our God the great YAHWEH has instructed us not to listen to such prophet.

Janosky:
1 Samuel 16:6 , Samuel prophecy: This Eliab is Jehovah's anointed one.

I know you're dull but I'll continue to lecture you on Bible study.

First, that's not a prophecy but Samuel own perception which God rejected.

Samuel didn't claim God is the one who instructed him to choose Eliab.

1 Samuel 16:7, JEHOVAH rejects Eliab.
Samuel gave false prediction (the same allegation by Emusan against JWs).
Emusan, according to 1 Samuel 16:6-7, Samuel a FALSE prophet?
Is Jehovah using him?
Yes!
Is Jehovah using JWs ?
Yes!

Did Samuel claim God is the one who instructed him to choose Eliab? No!

My post you quoted, it was clearly stated by WTBTS that "The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men, nor is it published according to the whims of men. No man's opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Those who oppose The Watchtower are not capable of discerning the truth that God is giving to the children of his organization, and this is the very strongest proof that such opposers are not of God's organization." Watchtower 1931 Nov 1 p.327

So if watchtower publications aren't a product of any man which is means it's Jehovah works, then why containing errors and failed predictions?

"God has been using imperfect human"
From the mouth of Emusan

Yes! I boldly say that but their works never contained error which is the reason you and your lying organization trust Bible as unerring inspired work of God in the first place.

Romans 3:23 & Romans7:21-25 is Paul perfect?
Is all the sins of Paul written down in your Bible?

Did what Paul write contained any mistake or errors?

This is a simple question.

Matthew 26:31-35
Jesus Predicts Peter’s Denial
31 Then Jesus told them, “This very night you will all fall away on account of me,for it is written:

“‘I will strike the shepherd,
and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’

32 But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee.”

33 Peter replied, “Even if all fall away on account of you, I never will.”

34 “Truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “this very night, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times."


35 But Peter declared, “Even if I have to die with you,I will never disown you.” And all the other disciples said the same."

Emusan, did the predictions of Jesus disciples come true?

Like the disciples, like Paul, like JWs.
Emusan will continue to beat about the bush.

You can't stop displaying your ignorance.

Peter never claimed God told him what he said it's from Him.

Lemme lecture you again by rephrase that portion you quoted.

31 Then Jesus told them, “This very night you will all fall away on account of me,for it is written:

“‘I will strike the shepherd,
and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’

32 But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee.”
33 Peter replied, “Even if all fall away on account of you, I never will [because Jehovah told me].”
34 “Truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, [even if Jehovah told you] “this very night, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times."
35 But Peter declared, “Even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you [this is what Jehovah made me to understand]” And all the other disciples said the same."

As you can see, this is just their OWN HUMAN PERCEPTIONS not divinely giving.

Compare to your organization who still claimed no human opinion is expressed in watchtower but still contained errors and wrong predictions.

1. Bible isn't a product of human mind = inspired = No error/mistakes
2. Watchtower isn't a product of human opinions but solely Jehovah = wrong predictions /mistakes

Bible has a message for you and your organization

You will know, because if the Lord says something will happen, it will happen. And if it doesn’t, you will know that the prophet was falsely claiming to speak for the Lord. Don’t be afraid of any prophet whose message doesn’t come from the Lord. Deu 18:22 CEV

The reason why your organization wants to deny be a prophet which is the reason for this thread is because of this verse and the failed predictions in Jehovah name.

MaxInDHouse:
That is why you need to have a rethink about what you did yesterday, what you're doing now and what you want to do tomorrow.

Hypocrite! But you aware my post is about when I first joined Nairaland before you spew that rubbish that day....

I realized that it's wrong trying to catch fun when others are taking it really serious SO I CHANGED. Act 2:37-38

Damage control.... Don't worry internet never forget!

At least you can't deny this your glaring hypocrisy.

That's what the light does to people {Proverbs 4:18} it's not about what people did in the past but what they choose to do after knowing better!

Hypocrite! See where he wants to hide his hypocrisy.

New light your organization has always used to deceive you.

DappaD:
What even shocks me the most is that even after the members of that church have heard all these nonsense spewed from their leaders, they’d still prefer to stick by them because they are not Christ’s lost sheep who are willing to worship God in spirit and truth. John 4:23-24

After all the nonsense, lies & failed prophecies you have heard about your 8 lying old men, do you still stick by them? Hypocrite!

Easy to see the small log of wood in another but failed to see the bigger log in their own eyes.

Janosky:
Did JWs claim TO BE PERFECT ?
Capital NO!

God has been using imperfect human

Romans 3:23 includes all JWs/ Paul.

How does this contribute to the post?

1 Corinthians 13:9,12, Paul has "partial knowledge," does Paul know everything?
Capital NO!

But did what Paul write contained any mistake or error?

JWs have " partial knowledge" like Paul.

Yet you accept all Paul's writings as inspired and free from errors.

Can you say the same about JWs?

1 Corinthians 13:9,12, Paul himself has said it all.

But does any Paul's writings contain error?

I know you can't answer Yes/No, rather beating around the bush.

Emusan continue DECEIVING yourself

We know you Mr dey deceive yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
I often read comments on NL before my wife taught me how to join and participate in the ongoing discussions

No wonder you failed woefully with that moniker

if anyone read my first few comments (Maximus69) you will notice that i only came to catch some fun.

Now this is the hypocrisy I do talk about.

In one of our conversation here, where I made mention about how I joined Nairaland just to catch fun and I can remember vividly how you raised your voice high that how can people be talking about their gods/God but I only join a forum to catch fun.

So what you accused me of doing is what you actually did.

Your hypocrisy is bigger than WTBTS headquarter.

Janosky:
Emusan LIENUS, Continue WAILING upandan and type GIBBERISH.

1 Chronicles 17:2-4, Emusan go and delete Prophet Nathan's false message from your Bible.

1 Samuel 16:6, go and delete Prophet Samuel's FALSE prediction from your Bible.

In other words, WTBTS are prophets and they have many false predictions!

That's wonderful.

MaxInDHouse:
You don't KNOW, why not bear your username for real?

Why do you want him to use his username?

Below is a post from the man in question, read for yourself and answer if he's still useful for Jesus to anyone, any group or anywhere he may go! John 6:66-68

@color - The man in question according to knowmore56 is Dr. Rolf Furuli, are you saying Dr. Furuli is a Nairalander

achorladey:
Abi oooo all na HUMAN GOVERNMENT and we know according to the teachings of that religious group all human government are bad and they suffer their SUBJECTS in one form or the other.

When the man was defending them they merry and revel and when he decides to scrutinize them he belongs straight to SONS OF DISOBEDIENCE

@color - that is the hypocrisy I do talk about.

Those 8 lying men aren't human anyway but angels that's why they're not part of human government

KNOWMORE56:
"Today, the eight men of the Governing Body functions as a government for JW with unlimited power. They have the power over the doctrines, the assets, and the money, and their words and decisions cannot be questioned. This is a situation that violates a number of Bible principles."

Yet they are the same people accusing other religious bodies of the same thing...

their ordeals is still warming up...it has not started!

Yet you'll hear JWs saying something like "human government has failed..."

I'll be like, those 8 lying men are they not also HUMAN GOVERNMENT?

Janosky:
Emusan is not a student of the Bible.

Yet I'm always ditching you and your elders Bible study

Jealousy is not good for his wellbeing

Jealously of hypocrisy you mean

You are very daft.

Thanks but my posts on this forum have proven otherwise.

Emusan,is the name Jesus @ Isaiah 9:6?
Your time starts now!

Janosky:
Where did you , Emusan see the name 'Jesus' @Isaiah9:6?

Mr dey deceive yourself and high comprehension has done it again!

No screenshot since the question has been asked, which means Geneva Bible, Jewish Bible, Washington Post, Google has failed you

All I asked for, is where Jesus was called Micheal in the Bible? And so far, you're still unable to provide just single verse.

About Isaiah 9:6 Jesus was not mentioned there but I can give you numerous verses where Jesus was called SON.

Can you see the difference?