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Nobody555:
1 Corinthians 8:6
[6]But for us,
There is one God, the Father,
    by whom all things were created,
    and for whom we live.
And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created,
    and through whom we live.

As I colored that part hope you can see it very well?

That means the Father isn't Lord too

You mean you were Bible student and later turned Apostate.

No! It means I'm a Bible student who always giving you people Bible study.

Maybe you don't know Jesus go still drop all en power to God and become a subject under God the Father. God will rule over all!
1 Corinthians 15:24-28

Only if you understand that verse very well, then you won't know it's about Trinity.

Some things might be a mystery but when it comes to God's person, no be mystery.

So Jesus was lying when He said "...NO ONE TRULY KNOWS THE FATHER EXCEPT THE SON, and no one truly knows the Son except the Father"

I know you never thought of that verse before

God is one person.

Then the scripture is lying because the early Christians CALLED ON JESUS NAME 1 Corinthians 1:2, Father, Jesus & Holy Spirit are three witnesses 1 John 5:7

Thomas called Jesus My Lord and My God

Trinity is men's idea!

Just as theocracy is men's idea

It's invalid cos it doesn't conform with the Bible.

Yet it was the same Bible you read where the early Christians called upon Jesus' name, it was the same Bible you read that Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one

Are you sure you read Bible by yourself?

MaxInDHouse:
It's not about your prayers but the true God makes things go well for everyone!

"so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous
" Matthew 5:45
That's why armed robbers, hired killers, ritualists, terrorists do receive the good things of life like riches and fruit of the womb. So if you're telling them that God is against their prayers they'll look down on you because they feel their prayers were answered!

I can see your the same line of thought

cornelboy:
I don't care which god you worship. Jehovah God doesn't answer unbelievers or insincere prayers.

Can you see how confused you are?

This is my statement you responded to "So Jehovah can answer my prayer when I'm not JWs"

You said "God answers anyone that prays to him according to his will."

Now you're claiming that Jehovah doesn't answer unbelievers.

Now your "ANYONE" has suddenly has limitation

MaxInDHouse:
Your hot temper can't change anything here my friend!

I know when your lies are being busted.

Do trinitarians support WARS?
YES!

How many wars have you witnessed being fought by Trinitarian?

Do they kill fellow trinitarians during WARS?
YES!

Yet you can't provide just one single evidence.

Do Jehovah's Witnesses support WARS?
NO!

Yes JWs support war they even pray for US in WWII to win

You didn't know that shey

Do Jehovah's Witnesses kill anyone during WARS?
NO!

But in all this, there's no war so why not hide your face in shame for claiming they KILLED each other....

So solve the rest yourself!

Nothing to solve here, your claimed is that they are KILLING each other but only to turn back and started imagine WAR in your head.

But at Armageddon your god will use weapons against people defending JWs

cornelboy:
God answers anyone that prays to him according to his will.

But you hold the belief that I'm not worshipping the same God with you, so how come I can pray to the same God that I don't worship?

cornelboy:
. If animal's blood could be so important to God, how much more a person's blood.

Leviticus 17:10-12,14
[10]“And if any native Israelite or foreigner living among you eats or drinks blood in any form, I will turn against that person and cut him off from the community of your people,

[11]for the life of the body is in its blood. I have given you the blood on the altar to purify you, making you right with the lord. It is the blood, given in exchange for a life, that makes purification possible.

[12]That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood—neither you nor the foreigners living among you.’
[14]The life of every creature is in its blood. That is why I have said to the people of Israel, ‘You must never eat or drink blood, for the life of any creature is in its blood.’ So whoever consumes blood will be cut off from the community.

Abi humans are not creatures?
Verse 11 no show you say blood sacred?

Funny enough you can't do without eating blood from animals you killed. So if eating or drinking of blood is the way you interpreted it then, you're not obeying that law.

Thou my post you quoted above is how your brother internationally add his own word into God's word.

Which you never addressed

MaxInDHouse:
You and your billions of trinitarians are taught to defend your nations

Lying liar!

See how he's changing mouth.

But your first statement shows this KILLING HAS STARTED and ALWAYS TAKING PLACE

"2billion that members do carry weapons to kill one another due to politics and racism!"

and yet you don't know that you're a dead meat in the hands of your fellow trinitarian from another country when WAR broke out!

So when war broke out, only Trinitarian will face Trinitarian while JWs will be busy with their roaming around

Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you o!

But there's no WAR now so which means No Trinitarians carry weapons to kill each other.

Always lying for your god

nans24:
Bro, I say the guy na real clown. I read his posts in the blood thread. Very embarrassing... He had to lie that they don't restrict people when the Bulgaria case was presented. One of their overseers is a good friend of mine. If I show him the post were he said they don't restrict, he will behave like max and say the guy is not really a witness. They love denying.

Not only denying but very hypocritical people.

Look at one of the questions in OP, it's about criticizing Catholic for excommunicate then the same goes ahead to adopt excommunicate doctrine from the pagan practice body

achorladey:
Another diversion loading, he should come and tell us they gather in the name of JEHOVAH or else na serious

You'll see how he'll try to prove to us that gathering together in Jesus name is to gather together in Jehovah' name

But if you ask him, is Jesus the same as Jehovah, he'll answer No!

MaxInDHouse:
Human thinking is that each person can connect to God without a group setting but Jesus said:

"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.” Matthew 18:20

So you can only pray alone for your personal needs {Matthew 6:6} but when it comes to WORSHIP you must join a group!

Even though there's nothing like GROUP in that verse you quoted but there's a point to make there.

The color should have been in that "in my NAME" do you gather together in Jesus name?

Like I said, the tactics to divert from the main point is setting in.

You must answer those questions

MaxInDHouse:
That trinitarians do participate in WARS so there's no way they can fight for their countries without killing their fellow trinitarians during battle!

So it's now "IN WARS"

Do you even know what you're saying?

I said show me where "2billion that members do carry weapons to kill one another due to politics and racism!"

Why are you afraid of this?

MaxInDHouse:
I know you're ready to argue blindly even when everyone knows that what you're saying is lie.

He has started his line of arguing blindly

What did I say that is lie?

That you should show me where "2billion that members do carry weapons to kill one another due to politics and racism!"

No single member of JW is a soldier because we love our neighbours and we won't like any politician to create enmity between us.

But member of JWs will rush to the same soldier for protection

Why can't they run to unarmed civilians

But yours will carry weapons saying they want to defend their country and in the process aim at their fellow believers from other nations.

Your claimed at first is that the "2billion that members do carry weapons to kill one another due to politics and racism!"

So it doesn't need to be country to country if 2billion people are with weapons killing each other. In fact, you can show us your neighbor who has killed his/her fellow Trinitarian.

You can continue deceiving yourself!

We know who is deceiving and lying liar here.

If members of Trinity are killing themselves, by now the world population will have reduced drastically but the despite the atrocity your brother in Islam are committing against the followers of Christ, we're still waxing stronger and better than JWs. That's why we're fulfilling Jesus statement of "if we abide in Him, we will have MORE FRUITS"

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
So keep yours while i keep mine!

That's what I was saying, tactics to divert from the main point.

MaxInDHouse:
Your so called trinitarians from another country will carry weapons and kill you even it's your so called men of God that will bless the weapons for you and your fellow believer to kill one another due to racism and politics!

Just your figment of imagination

show us where you see their members carrying weapons and started to kill one another....

Always lying for your god

MaxInDHouse:
The billion dollars question that no Apostate or enemy of truth can dare! John 6:68

The questions on the OP is 5 + @achorlade own, that means the questions no JWs or ignorant of the truth can dare answer are trillion dollars questions

MaxInDHouse:
2billion that members do carry weapons to kill one another due to politics and racism!

show us where you see their members carrying weapons and started to kill one another....

I know you'll enter another ghost mode now.

Unlike the 8.7 millions that has vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again forever.

But the 8.7 million will quickly call those who carry weapons for their protection

QUALITY that's unique not just QUANTITY that you can't even say a single thing about what your so called trinity family will do to you in the face of RACISM or POLITICS! John 17:22

Now it's about quality and not quantity whereas you're the very one who started with quantity in this forum by telling us how Jehovah is increasing your number every year

Nobody555:
Since when i was in my early teens, i have been finding it hard to comprehend and believe the Trinity.

That means you're too dull from your early days which still reflecting in you now.

I'm often told that I need to believe God as mystery. So i wonder, how can I know or walk with a mystery God?

If you're a student of the scripture, you'd have known that God is far beyond our human understanding which is called MYSTERY.

To think you know ALL about God makes you also God.

See how Jesus Himself put the mystery of God “My Father has entrusted everything to me. No one truly knows the Son except the Father, and no one truly knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”

As you can see here that, it's only what God wants man to know about Him that He revealed.

I also wonder if the the disciples and the early church understand God as three persons in one God or one God in three persons or just one singular God, a person?

Very well that's why we have:
1. The inspired word of God through John in 1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

2. "To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours:" 1 Corin 1:2
3. Many early Christians writers acknowledge Jesus and Holy Spirit as God yet worship one God.

MaxInDHouse:
This is why we mildly deal with you people as you're zealous but without accurate knowledge! Romans 10:2-3

So you mean Jesus was praying, begging and bowing to himself in order to be faithful all to himself, shey?

After you've been silent, the next thing you'll do is to find an escape route

And you'll be claiming you understand Trinity

MaxInDHouse:
With the NWT we have gone throughout the world to convert millions and made them disciples zealously preaching and industrious teaching God's word in their neighbourhood! Matthew 28:19-20

With the NWT we have erased hatred from their hearts so that they no longer see their neighbours as enemies that deserves to die but prospective inhabitants of God's kingdom. Matthew 5:43-48

With the NWT we have taught them never to raise weapons against anyone in the name of racism or politics, so they've vowed never to go to war anymore! Isaiah 2:2-4

With the NWT we have trained them to be obedient to the rulers so when others are agitating or protesting against the government whether they call it peaceful or violent protests JWs will not participate! John 17:14-16

With the NWT we have taught them to love their fellow believers exactly the same way Jesus loves them, so throughout the world everyone use to say about Jehovah's Witnesses "they love their members" John 13:34-35

Can you present any good result of your TRINITY? Matthew 7:16-18 compare to James 2:18-26

Imagine, you started with lies only to jump on this

Did New World appear in anywhere in the Bible?

Trinity has more than 2billion followers, isn't that a good result?

MaxInDHouse:
Any better performing group?

Tactics to divert from the main point

We understand

Janosky:
No mind that guy, Emusan.
Ask him why 1 Samuel 16:6 is in his own Bible?

He should not mind me yet you couldn't answer my question but only to bring irrelevant verse up.

So Russell uses 1 Samuel 16:6 to miscalculated the day bah

Janosky:
Matthew 5:20, John 13:35,Acts 3:13 & Acts 15:14-17.
The biblical standard of Jehovah's servants
@Matthew 5:20, John 13:35,Acts 3:13 & Acts 15:14-17.presents them as the "better performing group", the people chosen to bear Jehovah's name.

Even you know that if we search your perverted NWT from now till you'll receive sense, you can't find the word "better performing group" there.

So why citing different verses where such word never existed?

Well, that's JWs abracadabra

Pray to JEHOVAH, ask for His holy spirit to open your eyes of understanding, because you have none.

So Jehovah can answer my prayer when I'm not JWs

Can you see how deluded you are.

Janosky:
Acts 15:28-29 the command "Abstain from blood" restricts every servant of Jehovah from putting another person's blood into your body in the same manner that Ephesians 4:28 restricts every servant of Jehovah from stealing.

Acts 15:28-29 never limited the blood to ONLY PERSON'S BLOOD but since you know you can't do without eating blood from animals you have to add "PERSON'S BLOOD"

Dubious JWs

1 John 5:3, Emusan who wrote it in your Bible?

Russell and his pagan team

Are you willing to obey God's command?

Yes! Are you obeying God's commandment?

Emusan continue DECEIVING yourself.

We know you Mr continue to deceive yourself

My post always giving you sleepless night

Janosky:
John 20:17 is the true Christianity of Jesus Christ.
Emusan, did Jesus Christ worship 3 persons?
Did Jesus Christ worship your 3 deities?

Never make any coherent sentences in his life.

Go reflect on John 20:17 the reference scripture of the true Christianity of Jesus Christ.

The way you always reflecting on my post. That's a good job for you.

Emusan, @ Matthew 5:11 & Matthew 24:9, did Jesus Christ refer to 3 persons worshippers?

You added worshippers but Jesus refers to 3 PERSONS, true or false?

The answer is very luminous- to JEHOVAH'S servants

Yet no straight answer

Barristter07:
@Red to see something as your responsibility requires a conscious thought about it. That's Decision, a choice.

You can give it any meaning you want but that's not decision or choice.

Taking responsibility is what the story all about.

While trying to play around. You said the highlighted.

Now to the highlighted, Were those you described as "inhumane" created that way not to take responsibility or they choose to be inhumane ?

Now shifting goal post

What they did is called inhumane, in fact you don't call such a parent.

Janosky:
1 Samuel 16:6
When Jesse and his sons arrived, Samuel noticed Jesse's oldest son, Eliab. "He has to be the one the LORD has chosen," Samuel said to himself."

According to Samuel,is Eliab the Lord's chosen?

Eliab isn't the chosen one, reason why God corrected Samuel.

Now, where did God correct Russell.

Yet despite the numerous predictions, 1914 is still your key days

MaxInDHouse:
After condemning the Jewish religious system Jesus was preaching and teaching in all his territories and then he presented the better performing group:


"While he was yet speaking to the crowds, his mother and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to him. So someone said to him: “Look! Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.” In reply he said to the one who spoke to him: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother" Matthew 12:46-50

See jargons

This was your initial point

"What Christ and true Christians does is present a better performing group after the criticism."

So was Jesus criticize anybody in above scripture? That's how you'll know jargon.

What else do you think Jesus meant when he extended his hands towards those sharing the same line of thought with him?

The scripture is self explanatory.

Only a lying liar JWs like you will attach different meanings to it.

MaxInDHouse:
You are a pagan if you don't know what is wrong with the sects claiming Christians but having doctrines contradicting that of your own.

That means, you're also a pagan like Russell and his pagan team because WTBTS also claimed to be Christians with contradictory teachings.

That's what Jesus did.

That's not what Jesus did

So are you ready to practice true Christianity?

Are you Jesus to have known who is practicing TRUE CHRISTIANITY?

Jesus said his followers will be persecuted not because they're going gently o but because they're speaking against false religions claiming believers in their God! Matthew 24:9

This is Matt 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me"

This was said by Jesus also in Matt 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me."

Where in those verses didn't you see Jesus said people will be persecuted because of speaking against false religions claiming believers?

The spirit of your father the devil is really working well in you

MaxInDHouse:
So tell her that Christ CRITICIZED religionists carrying the Bible, therefore if she's against criticism then she's against the Christ.

It's evident you don't understand her post which I'm not surprised because I know you lack simple comprehension.

What Christ and true Christians does is present a better performing group after the criticism.

Where did Christ present better performing group?

But condemning criticism is UNCHRISTIAN!

We all know this is number one attribute of JWs.

cornelboy:
I don't mean truth in this sense

In what sense do you mean?

Who's greater Jesus or his Father?

And I honor Jesus Christ THE SAME WAY I honor the Father just like Jesus taught.

I don't believe in 3 Gods!

And who believe in 3 Gods

MaxInDHouse:
I thought Jesus is the Christ, he never said a word against, Greeks worshiping Zeus nor Romans worshiping Jupiter,

And you want her to criticize masqueraders and witches

he only criticize those handling the scriptures of his God without producing fine fruit!

So witches and masqueraders are the one handling God's word

So tell me the name of your church and the FRUIT you're producing!

I've told you before let me remind you again, until you can tell me the name of the church of Peter, Paul, James I'll tell you mine.

Quote properly next time.

cornelboy:
Lol what's your religion and what's the truth?

My religion is Christianity and the truth is Jesus Christ.

I worship only the one true God in one person just like Jesus taught.

And I honor Jesus Christ THE SAME WAY I honor the Father just like Jesus taught.

Have you ever seen where the Bible say "God the son" or "God the Holy spirit"? Only GOD the Father is scriptural.

Have you ever seen where the Bible says Theocracy or Kingdom Hall, only church is scriptural.