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garfield1:
https://www.thecable.ng/frank-ibezim-beats-ararume-sworn-in-as-imo-north-senator

He should go there are Do what he was elected there to do

Friendly fire

The war rages on.

Proper probing should be done.

Our men cannot continue to die due to all this friendly fire

NAF probes several soldiers killed in Borno airstrikes, attack:



The Nigerian Air Force has commenced an investigation into the reported killing of soldiers in airstrikes.

Over 20 soldiers were allegedly slain when a NAF fighter jet responding to attacks on a military camp by Boko Haram insurgents bombed the camp based on a wrong coordinate.

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Scores of insurgents had attacked the military camp in Mainok during which over seven soldiers, including an officer, lost their lives.

But TheCable reported that many soldiers were also killed by airstrikes carried out by the NAF jet.

Reacting to the report on Monday, the NAF spokesman, Edward Gabkwet, an air commodore, said the incident was under investigation.

In a tweet on the official NAF Twitter handle, he said, “The attention of the @NigAirForce has been drawn to reports alleging “How NAF killed over 20 Nigerian Army personnel by accident in airstrike” at Mainok which is about 55km to Maiduguri.”


33 soldiers killed in Mainok attack – Sources

About 33 soldiers were on Sunday killed in the Mainok attack by members of the Islamic State West Africa Province terrorists group.

The soldiers, including a lieutenant colonel, were killed while the insurgents attacked the military base located in the town, about 60km to Maiduguri.

The lieutenant colonel was one the commanders operating along Auno-Jakana-Mainok-Benisheik axis of the Maiduguri-Damaturu road.

The insurgents, who wore military camouflage and drove into the town in 16 gun trucks, six mine-resistant vehicles, headed straight to the military base and started shooting at the soldiers.

Appeared to have been taken unawares, the soldiers fled their base for safety.

According to sources in Mainok, the insurgents also burnt down the police station, shops and houses in the town.

“The insurgents came in around 1:30pm and started shooting sporadically before heading to the military base, where they destroyed the sandbag at the entrance of the base. At the base, they killed over 10 soldiers, who were fleeing to safety,” one of the sources, Lawan Tuja, told The PUNCH.

Tuja stated that the soldiers, who had put in spirited effort in fighting the insurgents, were overpowered by the insurgents because of the superior firepower at that their (insurgents) disposal.

“We saw the terrorists when they drove in. The troops of the Nigerian Army tried to contain them by fighting them for over one hour.

“The Air Force support came afterwards and unfortunately targetted the Nigerian troops instead of the insurgents, resulting in the death of over 20 soldiers.

“Gun trucks belonging to the Nigerian Army were burnt down too by the air support,” Tuja added.

Another resident, Modu Abba, said majority of the villagers ran in different directions into the bushes while many others, including him, left the town for Maiduguri for safety.

Insurgents seize Yobe town

Also, four days since their invasion of Geidam town in Yobe State, the insurgents are still in firm control of the town despite army’s claim that the insurgents had been repelled.

The Inspector General of Police, Usman Alkali Baba is from Geidam.

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According to local sources, the villagers fled the town and found their way to neighbouring communities where they are taking refuge.

Anwar Anas, an indigene of Geidam revealed to The PUNCH that the village had been deserted by residents except the aged and other sick people who could not escape from the attack.

“My parents are in that town. Anybody that tells you that the attack was repelled is lying. They have remained in the town since they came some four days back.

“The problem with Geidam is that majority of the youths in the town are members of the terrorist group. They are part and parcel of the terror group. They know the town so well than the military and they know all the hideouts,” Anas said.

A top source within the security formation operating in Yobe State revealed to The PUNCH that the military was planning to bomb Geidam town because of the complex nature of the counter-insurgency fight in the town.

“I don’t want to contradict the statement by the military but the insurgents are still in Geidam. They are busy burning buildings and looting shops and food stores.

“I am aware too that the military is planning to bomb the town since the insurgents are making it difficult for the army to enter the town due largely to the involvement of the youths and other adults of Geidam town,” the source added.

One officer, five soldiers, several terrorists killed in Mainok – Army

However, the Army spokesman, Brig. Gen. Mohammed Yerima, disclosed in a statement in Abuja on Monday that the terrorists in Mainok (Borno) were held by the gallant troops of 156 Task Force Battalion until the arrival of reinforcement teams from 7 Division, Special Army Super Camp Ngamdu and Army Super Camp 4, Benesheik.

The statement indicated that troops of Operation Lafiya Dole deployed in Mainok, on Sunday came under multi-directional attacks from Boko Haram/ISWAP terrorists.

It added that during the ensuing gun battle, scores of insurgents were killed while an officer and five soldiers paid the supreme price.

The statement further indicated that five soldiers were also injured during the attack on the army camp in the town.

Borno community panics as B’Haram launches fresh attack on Gwoza

In another development, information available indicates that Gwoza town in Gwoza Local Government Area of Borno State is under heavy attack by Boko Haram fighters.

The attack is coming barely 24 hours after the attack on Mainok town that resulted in the death of over 30 soldiers.

Though there are no details of the attack, this incident in Gwoza is the second in two months, just as indigenes of the community were said to be in a panic mode during the attack

During the last attack on Gwoza, the insurgents were neutralized by the troops, while several fighting equipments were recovered from them.

Zulum condoles with dead soldiers’ families

Meanwhile, the Borno State Governor, Prof. Babagana Zulum, has condoled with the families of soldiers, who died at the weekend during a battle with Boko Haram/ISWAP insurgents in Mainok, a town along Maiduguri-Damaturu highway.

Zulum, in a statement on Monday by his spokesman, Malam Isa Gusau, described the fallen soldiers as heroes, who died protecting the people of Borno and defending Nigeria’s sovereignty.


https://punchng.com/naf-probes-several-soldiers-killed-in-borno-airstrikes-attack/

A High Court in Akwa-Ibom State, on Thursday, sentenced a Nigerian professor, Peter Ogban, to three years in prison, for election fraud.

The court, which found Mr Ogban guilty of fraudulent manipulation of election results, publishing and announcing of false results, also asked the professor to pay N100,000 fine.

Mr Ogban, a professor of soil science, University of Calabar, and a returning officer in the 2019 general elections in Akwa Ibom North-West District, was charged for manipulating the election results of two local government areas – Oruk Anam and Etim Ekpo.

In a previous court session, Mr Ogban had told the court how the results of the election were falsified to give the All Progressives Congress (APC) an unfair advantage over its main rival, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).

For instance, some 5,000 fake votes were added to the APC’s score in Oruk Anam, in the election.

Godswill Akpabio, the Minister of Niger Delta Affairs, was the APC candidate in the election. He was seeking a return to the Senate, after he defected from the PDP.

The PDP candidate, Chris Ekpenyong, a former deputy governor in Akwa Ibom State, defeated Mr Akpabio in the election, which was gripped by pockets of violence.

Mr Ogban was prosecuted by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) in the landmark case.

The university lecturer, before his sentencing, pleaded for mercy from the judge, Augustine Odokwo.

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Justice Odokwo, who described the case as a novel one, told the lecturer that there was not much he could do other than to let the law take its course.

He said the prosecution was able to prove its case against Mr Ogban, beyond any reasonable doubt.

Ignatius Uduk, a professor of Human Kinetics in the Department of Physical and Health Education, University of Uyo, has also been charged for election fraud in Akwa Ibom State.


He is accused of unlawful generation of election results in favour of PDP in Essien Udim State Constituency election in 2019 and lying under oath.

Mr Uduk was remanded in custody in December after the court issued a warrant of arrest on him.

This is the first time INEC is prosecuting professors for electoral fraud.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/451132-nigerian-professor-jailed-for-election-fraud.html

fergie001:
Sammy07 ejimatic dansuqi kahal29....Please I need you guys to come tell me if this country is still one of constitutionality with this Party in Government?

The IGP is still observing body language.

I gues a northerner on the way tp replace him

fergie001:
I just wonder.....I am just so annoyed at the man, and I think he didn't do a bad job as IGP but with this stunt....it is crazy.

Must he be told to handover to the next person?

Probably still observing somebody's body language

fergie001:
I just wonder.....I am just so annoyed at the man, and I think he didn't do a bad job as IGP but with this stunt....it is crazy.

Must he be told to handover to the next person?

Nigeria and seattight syndrome

ninocia18:
Good evening sir.
1. The Rapture is the prophesied sudden removal of Christian believers from the Earth. 1Thess.4.16 - For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves.
1Thess.4.17 - Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever.
The Rapture is the sudden taking-away of the saints who stayed steadfast to their faith despite the tests and challenges that came with the reign of the antichrist.
Rev.14.12 - Let this encourage God's holy people to endure persecution patiently and remain firm to the end, obeying his commands and trusting in Jesus."
Rev.14.13 - And I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Write this down: Blessed are those who die in the Lord from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, they are blessed indeed, for they will rest from all their toils and trials; for their good deeds follow them!"
Rev.14.14 - Then I saw the Son of Man sitting on a white cloud. He had a gold crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand.
Rev.14.15 - Then an angel came from the Temple and called out in a loud voice to the one sitting on the cloud, "Use the sickle, for the time has come for you to harvest; the crop is ripe on the earth."
Rev.14.16 - So the one sitting on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the whole earth was harvested.
Rev.14.20 - And the grapes were trodden in the winepress outside the city, and blood flowed from the winepress in a stream about 180 miles long and as high as a horse's bridle.

2. The second coming of Christ will happen after the Rapture and after the 7 bowels of God's wrath is poured in the earth after which Jesus will return with the victorious saints and then rule on earth for a thousand years. This is the millennial reign of Christ. During this time, the devil won't be in b the system cuz he'll be bounded and thrown into the bottomless pit for a thousand years.
Rev.20.1 - Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev.20.2 - He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;
Rev.20.3 - and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
Rev.20.4 - And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Rev.20.5 - But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev.20.6 - Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Notice the difference between Rapture and the second coming. 1Thess.4.17 - Then, together with them, *"we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air"* and remain with him forever. In Rapture, Christ won't enter the earth. We'll meet him in the skies and then go to heaven. Then, we'll have the marriage supper and then the 7 bowls of God's wrath will be poured on the earth. But the second coming of Christ is Jesus coming to earth but not as a Lamb that taketh the sins of the world but as a Lion that has come to rule with an iron rod. With him will be the victorious saints who meet the requirements as mentioned in the Scriptures above.
3&4 are covered in the 2nd answer. I'd advice you read the books of Revelations for further insight.
Thank you sir.

Now from the analysis above

Which period does the Great tribulation falls into

obonujoker:
Matthew 24:29-31
A. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

B. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

C. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

From what Jesus said in those verses.

1. Great tribulation (Antichrist)

2. Second coming of the Lord

3. Rapture.

If you still want to argue, We all agree that at the rapture, there must be trumpet sound, and the voice of the Lord, right??

Look at what st Paul said

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

So from Matthew 24: 30 and 1 Thess 4:16 that the Lord himself shall descend, and then the rapture of the saints shall occurs.

Matthew 24:29... Shows that it's after the tribulation of those days, and Paul corroborated Jesus Christ in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


So you can see that Christians will be around when the Antichrist comes.... The ANTICHRIST is not coming to persecute immediately, remember that, he would be around to deceive, but when the true children of God refuse to worship him, that's when the great persecution starts....

1 Thessalonians 4: 16 talks about the rapture MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR

2. Acts 1: 11
SHALL COME IN LIKE MANNER (second coming)

Can you see the difference

obonujoker:
Not my analysis....it's what the Bible stated...I gave verses by Jesus Christ...

Second coming is different from rapture, but rapture cannot happen until the second coming... Jesus Christ himself will descend from heaven with a shout of the voice of an archangel and the Trump of God... This then will herald the rapture!!

Paul explained it in 1 Thess 4:16

Revelation says and he shall reign forever and ever.

Hes is coming with all the sainst at his second coming for his millennial reign

obonujoker:
Not my analysis....it's what the Bible stated...I gave verses by Jesus Christ...

Second coming is different from rapture, but rapture cannot happen until the second coming... Jesus Christ himself will descend from heaven with a shout of the voice of an archangel and the Trump of God... This then will herald the rapture!!

Paul explained it in 1 Thess 4:16

What will christ do at the rapture.

What will christ doo at the second coming coming

Read luke 16
LUKE 21

revelation 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 for exposition pm Rapture and great tirbulation. Then Revelation 11 for Christ second coming and His millenial Reign

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obonujoker:
1. Rapture is taking away the saints(both dead and alive at the time) by the Lord Jesus Christ

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


2. Christ second coming is to destroy the Antichrist, his false prophet and to reign a thousand years on Earth with his Saints.


3. I will use 4 to answer 3.


4. Timeline of the event according to the Lord Jesus Christ .

Matthew 24:29-31
A. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

B. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

C. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

From what Jesus said in those verses.

1. Great tribulation (Antichrist)

2. Second coming of the Lord

3. Rapture.

This means the rapture will happen at the second coming of Christ.

Except you want to say Jesus doesn't know what he's saying, or are you saying He would come three times?

However what has the Bible said about Jesus Christ coming?

Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.



1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

As you can see in Thessalonians that Paul has said no rapture, until the Antichrist is revealed as per the bolded.

From your analysis You're saying the rapture and second coming are the same.

Totally wrong.

Do you now see where you got it wrong

Let ne go further.

1. Who are those qualified for the rapture
2. Who are those qualified for the second coming
3. Who are those that shall hear the sound at the rapture

Image123:
At the FIRST coming, Jesus came and stayed on earth. At the SECOND coming, Jesus will come and stay on earth. There is no staying on earth in the rapture.

At Rapture not everg eyes shall see him.

That is why one will be taken and the other left as described in Luke 16

23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.

24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.

26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

32 Remember Lot's wife.

33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

obonujoker:
Show us your Bible scriptures to validate your erroneous teachings.... Read that Revelation well and see tribulation of the saints by the Antichrist is before the rapture of the saints by the Lord Jesus.

Or are you saying Christ doesn't know what he was saying in Matthew 24:31?

When is the time of the gentile Christ was refering to in Luke 21: 24

Luke 21:24
shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

damocool:
I think the problem is difficulty in differentiating rapture and second coming of christ.

Exactly

obonujoker:
Show us where in the Bible there is rapture saints and tribulation saints??

Or did Jesus, Daniel, John the Beloved, or even the angels lie??

See what the angels in Acts chapter 1 said about Jesus coming....

Acts 1:10-11
And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

So has Jesus come already that we don't know, or will he come two times?

Can You Please answer.

1. What is rapture

2. What is christ second coming.

3. What happened at the 2 event

4. What is the timeline of the 2 event

obonujoker:
Engineer....there is a difference between the persecution of the Antichrist, and the wrath of God.

When the Antichrist comes, Christians will be around. The Antichrist comes with deception first, before tribulation

When God begins to punish those on Earth, Christians won't be here.... Many would have been matyred, but would be resurrected at the rapture with those still alive...

Can You Please answer.

1. What is rapture

2. What is christ second coming.

3. What happened at the 2 event

4. What is the timeline of the 2 event

ninocia18:
Good day sir. I just saw your write up and first of all, I want to thank you for the awareness.
But please, I want to point out that the rapture will happen after the great tribulation nor before it. We will all witness the unveiling of the antichrist, the massive falling away of believers, the unveiling of the mark and the Great distress that will mark the 3and half years of what's is called The Jacob's Trouble. And the bible says so:
2Thess.2.1 - Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,
2Thess.2.2 - not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
2Thess.2.3 - Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
2Thess.2.4 - who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
2Thess.2.5 - Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?(NKJV)

2Thess.2.1 - And now, brothers and sisters, let us tell you about the coming again of our Lord Jesus Christ and how we will be gathered together to meet him.
2Thess.2.2 - Please don't be so easily shaken and troubled by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Even if they claim to have had a vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us, don't believe them.
2Thess.2.3 - Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction.
2Thess.2.4 - He will exalt himself and defy every god there is and tear down every object of adoration and worship. He will position himself in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.
2Thess.2.5 - Don't you remember that I told you this when I was with you?(NLT)
For further understanding, *please read, the vision of Daniel in Daniel 11, Matt 24 and Mk 13.*

The earlier the church accept the words of Jesus and like the wise virgins begin to get extra oil through fasting, praying, word study and obedience and service to him, the better for us. The foolish virgins are the ones who thought he'd come sooner than expected. Hence, didn't think it was relevant to get extra oil. That is why alot of people will backslid. Cuz they will feel disappointed that rapture should have happened before the unveiling of the antichrist and they weren't prepared for what will proceed his coming. So much hardship will make them receive the mark and let me say and I quote the words of Jesus, "once you receive that mark, you are doomed forever. There's no repentance from it and that is why hardship and seduction will be rampant." That is why alot of believers are and will rally against the church and the body of Christ and that is why he will find alot of Christians who will blindly follow him.

I really hope this will help alot of people especially believers. For those who want to really understand the endtime events and how it will unfold, I have tapes and messages that will give you more insight and how to prepare yourself for what is coming because the bible says that even in all that tumult, they that know their God shall wax strong and do exploits. The book of Revelations wasn't written to scare us but to tell us about the future and to also arm us with wisdom and strategies to own and rule even in the midst of our enemies. Chat me up on this number :09031867874.
Thank you.

Can You Please answer.

1. What is rapture

2. What is christ second coming.

3. What happened at the 2 event

4. What is the timeline of the 2 event

obonujoker:
Engineer....there is a difference between the persecution of the Antichrist, and the wrath of God.

When the Antichrist comes, Christians will be around. The Antichrist comes with deception first, before tribulation

When God begins to punish those on Earth, Christians won't be here.... Many would have been matyred, but would be resurrected at the rapture with those still alive...

Can You Please answer.

1. What is rapture

2. What is christ second coming.

3. What happened at the 2 event

4. What is the timeline of the 2 event

Roseey0:
Yes some people will be given the privilege to not see tribulation.

But tribulation is inevitable for most Christians. That's what tests your stance in Christ.

Go and read about the apostles and how they died before following Christ.
Your glory will be for eternity.

I hope you're not confusing this verse with great tribulation.

2 Timothy 3:12

12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

If you're doing so. Its not correct.

Persecution is different from great tribulation

Christian will experience persecution and trial but not great tribulation

Roseey0:
Yes some people will be given the privilege to not see tribulation.

But tribulation is inevitable for most Christians. That's what tests your stance in Christ.

Go and read about the apostles and how they died before following Christ.
Your glory will be for eternity.

Great tribulation is not meant for the saints.

Dont get confused with the word. Christian persecution is not the same as the great tribulation

True saings of God will

jesusjnr2020:
The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation?

This is a topic that appears to be generating a lot of hot debates among Christians presently. I don't think there's much doubt about the rapture taking place, because that's generally agreed upon by Christians to be a certainty. But the bone of contention was when exactly it would take place, if before or after the great tribulation.

I must admit though that this topic is one that I'm not well informed about, because It's not been an area of interest to me. Anyone of them was good enough for me because I was made by Jesus to be prepared at all times for all kinds of situation just as the apostles.

Luke 12:35-40 (KJV)

Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.
Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.
And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Hence i'm not really concerned if the rapture takes place before or after the great tribulation, because I'm always ready as my loins are girded about and my light is always burning as the Master had instructed. And I believe that ought to be the same for every one of His followers.

However last year I got a rapture dream for the first time in my life. That was sometime in June. Since then I have had two more and one great tribulation dream. The most recent being the rapture dream I just had a few days ago.

It gave me the impression gave that the end was very near, hence people needed to be warned about this so that they can repent and be ready for the rapture.

So although such information may not be of much significance to me, there were yet those who need to aware of such. therefore being God's servant, i was meant to warn them about what was imminent, which explains the rapture dreams I've been receiving.

And that's what I've been doing since. Although repentance has always been a key part of my message, now it's become even more urgent because it seems there's not much time left going by the timing and frequency of the endtime dreams.

For more details on those rapture and great tribulation dreams, you can go to this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6386851/just-woke-up-third-rapture#98508258

I must also admit though, that because of the rapture and tribulation dreams I was now more informed about the rapture than I used to be beforehand, that I intended to share my view about it. However when I realized that i was still not informed enough to give a definite position on that subject, I had to suspend my initial plans, so as not to mislead others.

Therefore it's only when i'm ready for that, i would do so, although as things stand now, I'm more inclined to the position of tribulation before rapture, and that I believe is a safer position to be in the meantime, that may yet change along the way.

But for those who are completely sure of when the rapture would take place, this is an opportunity to convince those of us who aren't if the rapture would take place before or after the great tribulation.

As I said earlier though, regardless, the most important thing is for us to be ready at all times for all possible scenarios as Jesus instructed us to be.

God bless.

It's a mystery

Read the bible with understanding.

Don't just pick on verse of the scripture

Compare scriptures together line by line precept upon precept

emmayoc:
Please we need to be careful not to mislead people with wrong believes and doctrines not supported by the word of God. This question is often asked those who say rapture before tribulations and I also asked u. Pls show me just one verse, only one verse in the Bible that tells u it's rapture first. U can't never see that.

But Bible states categorically that it's tribulations first then rapture take place. There are many scriptures in the Gospel, Epistle and book of Revelation. I will only show u two references in which Jesus our Lord Himself said in

Matthew 24:29-31:
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

2 Thessalonians 2:2-3
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Please I will emphasize again very strongly. Let your argument and beliefs be based on God's word which is the standard by which all matters are judged. Thanks

Read revelation 1 to the end.

You cannot compare the troubles, pains described in matthew 24 with what will happen during the great tribulation.

Is the seal upon the world

Read your bible very well please

jesusjnr2020:
The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation?

This is a topic that appears to be generating a lot of hot debates among Christians presently. I don't think there's much doubt about the rapture taking place, because that's generally agreed upon by Christians to be a certainty. But the bone of contention was when exactly it would take place, if before or after the great tribulation.

I must admit though that this topic is one that I'm not well informed about, because It's not been an area of interest to me. Anyone of them was good enough for me because I was made by Jesus to be prepared at all times for all kinds of situation just as the apostles.

Luke 12:35-40 (KJV)

Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.
Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.
And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Hence i'm not really concerned if the rapture takes place before or after the great tribulation, because I'm always ready as my loins are girded about and my light is always burning as the Master had instructed. And I believe that ought to be the same for every one of His followers.

However last year I got a rapture dream for the first time in my life. That was sometime in June. Since then I have had two more and one great tribulation dream. The most recent being the rapture dream I just had a few days ago.

It gave me the impression gave that the end was very near, hence people needed to be warned about this so that they can repent and be ready for the rapture.

So although such information may not be of much significance to me, there were yet those who need to aware of such. therefore being God's servant, i was meant to warn them about what was imminent, which explains the rapture dreams I've been receiving.

And that's what I've been doing since. Although repentance has always been a key part of my message, now it's become even more urgent because it seems there's not much time left going by the timing and frequency of the endtime dreams.

For more details on those rapture and great tribulation dreams, you can go to this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6386851/just-woke-up-third-rapture#98508258

I must also admit though, that because of the rapture and tribulation dreams I was now more informed about the rapture than I used to be beforehand, that I intended to share my view about it. However when I realized that i was still not informed enough to give a definite position on that subject, I had to suspend my initial plans, so as not to mislead others.

Therefore it's only when i'm ready for that, i would do so, although as things stand now, I'm more inclined to the position of tribulation before rapture, and that I believe is a safer position to be in the meantime, that may yet change along the way.

But for those who are completely sure of when the rapture would take place, this is an opportunity to convince those of us who aren't if the rapture would take place before or after the great tribulation.

As I said earlier though, regardless, the most important thing is for us to be ready at all times for all possible scenarios as Jesus instructed us to be.

God bless.

Rapturr before great tribulation


In Gods calender the next programmr now is
1. The Rapture of the Saints
2. The Great Tribulation which is divided into 2 segment of 3 1/2 weeks (years)

We have rapture saints
There will be tribulation saints also

fergie001:
They have.

Yes that is expected.

UI is fighting 2 front.

1. Protecting their name

2. Supporting one of their alumni

kahal29:
Twitter Account of today's proceedings in court

This twitter account is more or less like APC WhatsApp twitter update.

Check all the handles on the WhatsApp page they all send the same update.

What kind of update is this

fergie001:
Wait fess Biko, make I go check something for my UI Certificate fess

Abeg check am well hoooo

Indispensable85:
My fears are the supreme court. Those guys can come up with something or anything to sack anybody provided the cabal wants it so. Corrupt judiciary!

Yhe supreme court has learnt their lesson from the previous Judgments and that is tne reason why they are not ready to entertain any attempt to resurrect any of the case

fergie001:
Not really.
This one went cold in June 2020.

Like trying to resurrect a two year old dead body

fergie001:
The worst thing is that APC PW3 (Professor Emmanuel Balogun) even said it that the document was longer than A4 and when photocopied will leave some details out.

I was asking myself if he wasn't told what to say before he came to Court.

Probably, maybe he was not privy to what they write about his witness statements


UI came prepared

The witness tendered three different versions of a Bachelor of Arts degree belonging to another student, which the school photocopied in A3, A4 and A5 papers, to buttress the point.

With no reduction to the size.

fergie001:
Recte Sapere Fons.



We need new case this 2021 jareh.

The case still dey hot naaaa

By the way; UI just gave Obaseki another lifeline

LibertyRep:
Since UI has authenticated the certificate, the case is as good as over.

But then, whoever made the photocopy didn't try at all. There's always a way of reducing the size of a larger document to fit into A4 now.

APC will still come again disputing the Size