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Politics › Re: Obaseki In Meeting With Secondus, Wike, Tambuwal, Others by engineerboat(m): 8:40pm On Jun 17, 2020
AntonVince:
Enough of the intrigues Obaseki.
Make hay while the sun shines lest your supporters get disenchanted.

Meanwhile, I still can't stop laughing after seeing the pix below.
Politics is indeed the biggest biz in Nigeria.
cheesy cheesy
This is actually fake.

This was NANs executive presenting award to Adam's Adam's oshiomole in 2000
Politics › BREAKING: Appeal Court Suspends Oshiomole As APC National Chairman by engineerboat(op): 7:51pm On Jun 16, 2020
Appeal Court suspends Oshiomole as APC National chairman

A court of Appeal in Abuja has upheld the suspension of Adams Oshiomole as the National Chairman of the All Progressives Congress, APC.

On Tuesday, a 3-man panel led by the President of the court of appeal, Justice Monica Dongban-Mensem announced that that Oshiomole’s appeal to his suspension is ‘Unmeritorious’. The judgement is coming a few hours after Edo state governor, Godwin Obaseki and his deputy, Philip Shuaibu resigned from the party.

POLITICS NIGERIA earlier reported that an FCT high court granted an application filed by some members of the Edo state APC suspending Oshiomole from office on March 4th.

It will be recalled that Obaseki was disqualified from contesting the party’s primaries by a screening committee over discrepancies in his HSC and NYSC certificate.

It is largely believed that his disqualification was influenced by Oshiomole, who is his predecessor in office. Both politicians have been at loggerheads for some time now.

https://politicsnigeria.com/breaking-appeal-court-suspends-oshiomole-as-apc-national-chairman

Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 11:24pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
My guy they depicted the culture and dresses of women of ancient times!

So you let's see those who used to dress the way your Pastors are demanding? cheesy
Can you talk about women of old Paul was referencing without the mother of faith Sarah

Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 11:17pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
My guy they depicted the culture and dresses of women of ancient times!

So you let's see those who used to dress the way your Pastors are demanding? cheesy
Can you talk about women of faith and old and not talk about Deborah.

Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 11:15pm On Jun 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
You see what I mean? Nothing about her dressing at all.

That is all we are told she did, as far as her appearance was concerned.
How does an harlot dress
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 11:15pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
My guy they depicted the culture and dresses of women of ancient times!

So you let's see those who used to dress the way your Pastors are demanding? cheesy
A great woman of faith

Hannah

Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 11:07pm On Jun 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Did you know that nothing of what is detailed in the Bible Jezebel's informs us of how the woman even dressed? undecided undecided

I bet you had a copy of the book, my book of Bible stories, as a child to inform your mind of what to think of Jezebel... undecided
2 king 9
22 And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many? 23 And Joram turned his hands, and fled, and said to Ahaziah, There is treachery, O Ahaziah. 24 And Jehu drew a bow with his full strength, and smote Jehoram between his arms, and the arrow went out at his heart, and he sunk down in his chariot. 25 Then said Jehu to Bidkar his captain, Take up, and cast him in the portion of the field of Naboth the Jezreelite: for remember how that, when I and thou rode together after Ahab his father, the Lord laid this burden upon him; 26 Surely I have seen yesterday the blood of Naboth, and the blood of his sons, saith the Lord; and I will requite thee in this plat, saith the Lord. Now therefore take and cast him into the plat of ground, according to the word of the Lord. 27 But when Ahaziah the king of Judah saw this, he fled by the way of the garden house. And Jehu followed after him, and said, Smite him also in the chariot. And they did so at the going up to Gur, which is by Ibleam. And he fled to Megiddo, and died there. 28 And his servants carried him in a chariot to Jerusalem, and buried him in his sepulchre with his fathers in the city of David. 29 And in the eleventh year of Joram the son of Ahab began Ahaziah to reign over Judah. 30 And when Jehu was come to Jezreel, Jezebel heard of it; and she painted her face, and tired her head, and looked out at a window. 31 And as Jehu entered in at the gate, she said, Had Zimri peace, who slew his master? 32 And he lifted up his face to the window, and said, Who is on my side? who? And there looked out to him two or three eunuchs. 33 And he said, Throw her down. So they threw her down: and some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall, and on the horses: and he trode her under foot. 34 And when he was come in, he did eat and drink, and said, Go, see now this cursed woman, and bury her: for she is a king’s daughter.
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:50pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
Show me wear women of old dress like mourners the way your Pastors are demanding today?
Clap for yourself.

You better not let all this celebrity sue you for libel.
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:47pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
Jesus never said anything was wrong in the way women of his time adorn themselves Sir! cheesy

Paul wrote a letter to Timothy to help the women in the first century Christian congregation to know that they must remain in subjection to their husbands NOT becoming arrogant all because of the things they're putting on!

Note how he said this at 1Timothy 2:12, women are not permitted to speak in the congregation, because they must remain submissive to the men! 1Corinthians 11:3
Before verse 12 there was verse 9

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:45pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
Jesus made Paul an Apostle for the nations, so if you don't believe (trust) in Paul's admonition, Jesus don't know you!

The letter Paul wrote simply means faithful women must not depend on their outward appearance, they must remain submissive to their husbands.

Most women often look down on their husbands because such men can't afford all the things Paul mentioned, so they are not keeping the faith if they should disrespect their husbands because their husbands can't afford all that.
So Paul is not saying any of those things is sin because faithful women of old put on all those things! smiley
Show me a woman of old that wear

See through cloth.

Show body cloth

Skimpy cloth.


Can you show me those women of old on those dresses
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:43pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
Jesus made Paul an Apostle for the nations, so if you don't believe (trust) in Paul's admonition, Jesus don't know you!

The letter Paul wrote simply means faithful women must not depend on their outward appearance, they must remain submissive to their husbands.

Most women often look down on their husbands because such men can't afford all the things Paul mentioned, so they are not keeping the faith if they should disrespect their husbands because their husbands can't afford all that.
So Paul is not saying any of those things is sin because faithful women of old put on all those things! smiley
Is that also part of Jesus message as well, as acclaimed by both of you.

Let's I forget Paul teaching were aliens to you both
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:41pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
You can't do that without following the examples set by God's people of ancient times, what Kumuyi and his cohorts are doing now is called man-made doctrines and traditions NOT God's way!
So we can follow ancient men.

Where those ancient men of old Jesus teaching according to both of you


Jezebel was also an ancient woman and a good example for people like you
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:39pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
My guy Rebecca (Isaac's wife) wear bracelets and nose ring, are you saying she's not a woman of faith? Genesis 24:30
Hoo so Genesis was part of Jesus teaching you both claimed to be following.

Do you see where you're shooting yourself in the leg

Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:34pm On Jun 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
You misconstrued what Paul said in that verse.
But I chose to focus on Jesus Christ as I said because after all, Jesus Christ is our one and only TEACHER, or is He not? undecided
And Paul was called By Jesus to go and do what
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:33pm On Jun 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
There is society and then there is that which Jesus has called on you to do. So, which one is your focus? The traditions and rules of men that embody societal beliefs OR the commandments of Jesus Christ, the one whom you have devoted your life to?

Note: That Jesus explained why you cannot have both. grin
The way of bringing men to the right way of life is the message of Jesus
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:14pm On Jun 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Those are not the commandments of Jesus Christ... those are Paul's words which you misconstrue.

But I would rather we focus on the words of Jesus Christ, the one who we follow and whose commandments we are called to obey. So, where does Jesus Christ tell you that it matters what women wear and that it is indeed your place to tell a woman how to dress? undecided
And it's not part of the bible right?

But because it's not supporting your ommpdest dressing activism right
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:13pm On Jun 08, 2020
Maximus69:
Kumuyi pikin them! cheesy

What concerns a Christian in how someone
NOT your mother,
NOT your wife,
NOT your sister,
NOT your daughter
Choose to dress herself? cheesy
Our societal wellbeing is a collaboration of all.

Every house has its rule.

You can't tell him what to do.

It's better you say because you're not allowed to wear your See-through cloth to the church that's why you suddenly become advocates of Those who dress immodestly should not be counselled to dress properly
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 10:01pm On Jun 08, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Why can't she?
Is it your place to tell her how to dress? If your answer is yes, please show us where in the Bible Jesus Christ, the Son of God, tells you this? undecided undecided
2:8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. - 1 Timothy 2:8-10
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 9:49pm On Jun 08, 2020
Proximo73:
it's not about kumuyi or what is happening in deeper life, It's about the mindset of the African people spurn by a faulty African traditional beliefs with regards to the way women should dress.
It's true that some women do not dress modestly, but that shouldn't be a problem.
Churches like deeper life who see women dressing immodestly as a problem are sending wrong signal to the society.
A woman who dressed immodestly is raped the next thing people will ask is, why did she dress that way?
They begin to blame her rather than blaming the rapist.
Why must a woman dress immodestly and indecently
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 9:45pm On Jun 08, 2020
Proximo73:
you made a very valid point my brother
no, I won't!
Not just only kumuyi but virtually all the Nigerian pastors.
They have been promoting faulty African traditions in their churches in the form of doctrines grin

A woman will wear short skirt to church they will prevent her from entering church saying she will seduce men or cause rape.
But a man put on short knicker to church he is holy
Have you seen any man wearing short sneaker to kumuyi church.
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 9:35pm On Jun 08, 2020
Proximo73:
nothing!

I also wish that rapists should also see that nothing is also wrong for women not to dress like deeper life and allow them to be
Has any rapist tells you that because Pastor Kumuyi teach people, that's the reason they rape their victims
Christianity Etc › Re: Kumuyi Also Contributed To The Rape Mentality In Our Society by engineerboat(m): 9:32pm On Jun 08, 2020
Proximo73:
I know a lot of people will come out to crucify me for saying this truth but i have to say it.
The teachings and methods of the likes of pastor kumuyi have contributed to rape mentality among men in our society. Actually, the faulty mentality came from the African traditional beliefs that positioned women to be inferior before men by telling women that there must be a particular way you dress as a woman for you to avoid being raped or sexually harassed, that is the same thing kumuyi replicated as a law in his deeper life church.

Though pastor kumuyi in his mind had good intentions for his doctrines which he may thought that it was one of the measures to curtail rape in the society, he teaches that women should not dress to expose certain parts of their body like their legs by putting on skirts that should not be shorter beyond their knees, and tops that should cover their upper regions up to their necks, arms with long sleeves and baggy appearance without being fitted, that dressing this way will make the lady not to miss rapture at the end.

The question is, at the long run does these kind of dressing among women curtail rape in our society?
The answer is absolutely no!

Now, most men who raped women when you ask them why did you do it? One excuse they will give is, they did it because their victim did not cover their body as the likes of kumuyi and the African tradition teaches
Is it compulsory to write anything at all
Politics › Court Refuses To Grant Forfeiture Of Saraki’s Ikoyi Houses by engineerboat(op): 4:58pm On Jun 08, 2020
Court declines to make forfeiture order on Saraki's properties permanent

A Federal High Court sitting in Lagos, Monday, declined to make permanent, the interim order it made forfeiting former Senate President, Senator Bukola Saraki’s properties in Lagos to the Federal Government.

The interim order was made at the instance of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC.

The EFCC had through its counsel, Nnaemeka Omewa, prayed the court to make permanent, the order forfeiting Senator Saraki’s properties at No. 17 and 17B Macdonald Street, Ikoyi, Lagos.

The EFCC had contended that the properties were acquired illegally with funds belonging to Kwara State Government.

However, Senator Saraki through his counsel, Kehinde Ogunwumiju, SAN, raised a preliminary objection in opposition to the suit.

The application was argued on March 5, 2020, and the court adjourned for ruling.

In his ruling, yesterday, trial judge, Justice Hassan Liman held that the court has jurisdiction to entertain the suit.

The court further held that the evidence before the court was to the effect that the properties in issue were acquired by Senator Saraki with a loan from a bank (Name withheld) and not with illegal or unlawful funds or funds belonging to Kwara State Government.

The court further held that there was no evidence before the court linking the loan repayments made by Senator Saraki to funds belonging to Kwara State Government, therefore, there was no basis for ordering the forfeiture of the properties.

The court held that in view of the inconsistencies and contradictions in the affidavits deposed to and relied upon by EFCC, it could not make a forfeiture order in favour of EFCC, hence, the proper course of action would be to order the witnesses of the EFCC to give oral evidence for the purpose of clarifying the said contradictions.

The court accordingly adjourned further hearing in the matter to September 29, 2020, for EFCC to call its witnesses.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/06/court-declines-to-make-forfeiture-order-on-sarakis-properties-permanent/

Politics › Re: BREAKING: Court Restrains APC From Conducting Primaries In Edo by engineerboat(m): 4:40pm On Jun 08, 2020
shosky1794:
Did anybody even bother to click the link provided? It doesn't exist
Hmmm

Different content
Politics › BREAKING: Court Halts APC Primary In Edo by engineerboat(op): 4:11pm On Jun 08, 2020
BREAKING: Court Halts APC Primary In Edo


The Federal High Court sitting in Benin City, Edo State, has stopped the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) from conducting its Governorship election.

The court on Monday granted an order restraining the APC and its national chairman, Adams Oshiomhole from conducting any primary election in Edo State.

The APC was set to conduct a primary ahead of the state governorship election in September.

https://blisteringnews.com/2020/06/08/breaking-court-halts-apc-primary-in-edo/

Politics › Re: Edo 2020: Will APC Ever Learn by engineerboat(op): 4:35pm On Jun 06, 2020
bamidelee:
PDP chairman, face your cursed party abeg.
BTW, who released you? I tot you crossed to the other realm after 2019 election with salamrushdie, pachukwudi44 et al.
RIP to them.
Let me keep the comment till that time.
Politics › Re: Edo 2020: Will APC Ever Learn by engineerboat(op): 3:29pm On Jun 06, 2020
Pro, anti-Obaseki Edo APC leaders at loggerheads over June 22 primary, consensus candidature

Politics › Edo 2020: Will APC Ever Learn by engineerboat(op): 3:28pm On Jun 06, 2020
Will APC ever learn?

The question keeps ringing.

The imbroglio going on concerning the Party Preparation towards Edo and Ondo Governorship Election is going towards the direction of Zamfara, Rivers and Bayelsa Election.

It was the same infighting that caused the Party to lose out in the aforementioned states.

The Party is gradually moving in that direction in the forthcoming election in ondo and edo state.

Various Cour cases are flying up and down.

Various court injunction are already been instituted.

Infighting and lack of doing the right thing at the right time.

High handedness.

All this are what contributed to the party abysmal performance and resultant effect in the aforementioned state.

The question once again.

Will APC ever learn?

Nairalanders over to you.

Cc. Lalasticlala
Politics › Re: Court Rules In Favour Of Inec’s Decision To Deregister Political Party by engineerboat(op):
yyba:
PDP should be number 1 on INEC de register list of political parties. grin
Go and write it there now.
Politics › Court Rules In Favour Of Inec’s Decision To Deregister Political Party by engineerboat(op): 12:51pm On Jun 06, 2020
Court rules in favour of INEC’s decision to deregister political party

The Federal High Court in Abuja has held that the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) possesses the power to deregister political parties.

In a judgment on Friday, Justice Taiwo Taiwo said INEC is empowered under the constitution to de-register political parties that failed to meet provisions of Section 225(a) of the constitution.

The judgment was delivered following a suit filed by Hope Democratic Party (HDP) which queried the recent decision by INEC to deregister it and some other political parties.

This is a second judgement in relation to INEC’s power to deregister parties. Justice Taiwo had, in May, also ruled in favour of INEC after the National Unity Party (NUP) asked the court to declare that INEC had no power under section 225A of the constitution “to de-register the plaintiff as a political party or any other political party.

De-registering

On February 6, 2020, INEC took the nation by surprise by deregistering 74 out of the 91 registered parties that participated in the 2019 general elections. Only 18 parties are currently left on INEC’s register.

The commission said its decision followed a comparative review and court-ordered re-run elections arising from litigations on political parties in the last elections.

It said the political parties performed poorly and failed to win at least one political seat in the last general elections. INEC also said the parties breached the requirement for registration of political parties under section 225 of the Nigerian constitution.

In defence, some of the affected parties kicked against INEC’s action, insisting that it acted illegally.

Separate suits were thus filed in court by the aggrieved parties.


Ruling

On Friday, Justice Taiwo dismissed the HDP’s suit, saying the party provided no evidence that it met the criteria for it not to be de-registered.

The judge said HDP fell short of the requirements under Section 225(a) of the constitution, and that the party also failed to convince the court that INEC’s decision to de-register it, as a political party, was unlawful.

He said since it is a legal principle that he who asserts must prove, the plaintiff was under the obligation to prove that INEC acted unconstitutionally by de-registering it as a political party.

He noted that the plaintiff did not only fail to prove its case, “the case of the plaintiff is weak and as such, it cannot be granted the reliefs sought.

“The plaintiff has the onus to prove its case, but has failed to show to the court that it met the requirements of Section 225(a) of the Constitution.


“The plaintiff ought to give particulars of malice when it alleged that it was de-registered out of malice. The court is not a father Christmas to grant reliefs that have not been sought.”


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/396325-court-rules-in-favour-of-inecs-decision-to-deregister-political-party.html

Politics › Re: Bayelsa Deputy Governor Storms Tribunal: Denies Opportunity Of Testifying by engineerboat(op): 6:00pm On Jun 04, 2020
There was a twist on Thursday when the candidate of the Liberation Movement (LM) in the November 16, 2019 governorship election in Bayelsa, Vijah Opuama turned around and told the state governorship election petition tribunal sitting in Abuja that he no longer needs the deputy governor of the state, Senator Lawrence Oborawharievwo Ewhrudjakpo to testify for him as a witness before the tribunal.
Politics › Bayelsa Deputy Governor Storms Tribunal: Denies Opportunity Of Testifying by engineerboat(op): 6:00pm On Jun 04, 2020
Senator Lawrence Oborawharievwo Ewhrudjakpo
Alleged certificate forgery: Bayelsa deputy governor storms tribunal
• Denies opportunity of testifying


There was a twist on Thursday when the candidate of the Liberation Movement (LM) in the November 16, 2019 governorship election in Bayelsa, Vijah Opuama turned around and told the state governorship election petition tribunal sitting in Abuja that he no longer needs the deputy governor of the state, Senator Lawrence Oborawharievwo Ewhrudjakpo to testify for him as a witness before the tribunal.

Opuama, through his counsel, PIus Dande Pius, is challenging Ewhrudjakpo’s qualification to stand in the Bayelsa State governorship election, on the ground that the deputy governor submitted a forged exemption certificate to the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) before the election.


The tribunal had, in a subpoena on Tuesday ordered the state’s deputy governor to appear before it on Thursday to produce the original copy of his disputed certificate, following an application to that effect by the petitioner.

In response to the subpoena, the deputy governor appeared at the tribunal and instead of calling on him to give his evidence, Pius, petitioner’s counsel informed the court that there was no longer need for the evidence of Ewhrudjakpo (the deputy governor), who is the fourth respondent in the matter.


The deputy governor, who said he was ready to show to the court the original copy of his exemption certificate as issued to him by the National Youths Service Corps (NYSC), said he never forged nor fake any of his certificates.

Another petitioner’s witness is presently giving evidence before the tribunal with several documents being tendered through him.

https://www.tribuneonlineng.com/alleged-certificate-forgery-bayelsa-deputy-governor-storms-tribunal/

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