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Professor Fatima! Where have you been? FatimaMK: |
There are still several UK schools offering admissions at the moment. Don't restrict yourself to only the University of Liverpool unless you are a Liverpool fan. Lol BNW1: |
OK! Why not consider Christian Christian ticket then? A Muslim president have been ruling for the past 7 years and you still want to slap Muslim Muslim ticket on the faces on Nigerians. So the current massive religious and ethnic divisions brought about by APC is not enough abi? Kolework Sir! powerfulguy: |
Agreed! MaxInDHouse: |
The argument is needless bro. Why? Simply because we are saying the same thing but in different ways. Can anyone even practice tithing fully without the Levitical priesthood or Jerusalem temple or Tabernacle in Shiloh? The answer is no! So that's why I stated if anyone wants to practice it, it must be done based on the scriptural requirement. But this is practically difficult if not totally impossible currently. The modern day Jews knows this very well and that's why they don't pay any tithe today. What they normally do is to contribute to the support of their synagogues but not tithe is involved. MaxInDHouse: |
As far as I know it in the Bible that I have read read back to back for several years by the grace of GOD, I believe tithe is not commanded for Christians at all but whoever want to still insist on practicing it must do so in the exact way it was commanded unlike what prosperity preachers are doing. MaxInDHouse: |
Not at all. Even for UK too, it is still the same. However, the advantage of UK is that your wife can work full time. nkechinyere41: |
Good points. One cogent thing I have observed among some of our people ( usually followers of prosperity preachers) is this. When the matters of the scriptures are honestly and humbly being asked , they sometimes tend to resort to emotional, sentimental , psychological or aggressive responses rather than focusing on dissecting the word in order to edify the listener. Please, anyone that is doing this should know this is not a Christlike attitude. In every instances of life, a true Christian must reflect the behavior and character of Christ who commanded us to be gentle as a dove but wise as a serpent. Anyone one that is issuing threats, curses, insults and derogatory language is not representing Christ well even if you are trying to defend the church. Let's not grieve the Holy Spirit through ungodly attitudes. Let's humbly learn from this. May GOD bless and help His people. OkCornel: |
Thanks Sir. May GOD have mercy on our people. I pray their eyes are open to see the honest but bitter truth! Dtruthspeaker: |
May GOD bless whoever posted this. toyinaremu: |
Another major area in which prosperity preachers are making serious error in the matter of tithe is what they actually do with the gathered tithes. TITHE IS NOT FOR: 1. Tithe should not be used to build your personal empire 2. Tithe should not be used to acquire wealth and riches 3. Tithe should not be diverted outside the church to start business ventures 4. Tithe should not be used to buy mansions and private jets 5. Tithe should not be used for building glamorous cathedrals, auditoriums etc 5. In conclusion , even if you must collect tithes , it should strictly be used to do what the scriptures stipulates . Anything outside of this amounts to disobedience, heresy and greed. |
May GOD bless you for telling the truth with simplicity and honesty! OkCornel: |
Brilliant advice indeed! Does this apply to Canada too? I mean ban on the spouse's partner from working while the spouse is working. babey543: |
Bro, quickly go and apply now if you have not yet done so before it's too late. It's a must to apply ahead unless you want to defer your admission till later. PTDF only give sponsorship supports . They don't give admission offers. Cafanchan: |
If UK or FGM areas is explicitly stated on the award letter, then obviously you can not use it as a proof of funds for your US admissions or visa application. Ajoself: |
I agree too. Larrysung: |
The answer to this have been given by the Apostles of JESUS since about 2000 years ago in Jerusalem according to the book of Acts 15 where some of Jewish Christians were insisting that gentile converts obey the law of Moses ( circumcision). Remember circumsion is even more important to the Jews and Isrealites than tithe. Without circumcision, you are not even part of the commonwealth of Israel. You are simply an outcast and your offerings and tithes will be like a taboo. This shows the gravity of Circumcision to a typical Jew. The conclusion of the elders(Apostles) on this matter can be found in Acts 15:20 which states: " Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. " Tithes was not even included. If Circumsision that was even be considered a weightier matter of the Old Testament Law can be suspended , then why would a Tithe not be ? The summary of this 4 requirements is simply sanctification , purity or holiness. These were the only aspect of the old testament law that transcend to the new testament because a believer is required to be holy at all times in addition to Love toward GOD and fellow man(which is the greatest commandedment. Math 22:36- 40) . Sexual immorality and idolarory can defile a Christian . My personal belief on tithe is this. It is not compulsory in the New Testament based on what we can see on the Scriptures and not human psycology, philosophy or tradition of men being imposed on believers these days. However, a Christian should be encouraged (not compelled or threatened with fear) to give tithes out of love to support the Gospel. However it should be given to missionaries, full time ministers, widows, orphans, the poor and any vulnerable people in the society . It should not be given to prosperity preachers who are accumulating the money into their bank accounts to build their empire and support their lavish lifestyle. This is a doctrine of mammon. The old Testament High Priests or Levites didn't live such lifestyle at all. Neither did the Apostles in the New Testament era accumulate wealth or proceeds from people for their personal gain. They simply shared it out to members of their Christian community to help them. Yet, people were willing and eager to give freely to them. Steep: |
Last year, I did some personal research on the doctrine of tithe too. One of the questions that came to my mind was this? "Do modern day Israelites called Jews or Israelis still pay tithe? " . I was perhaps surprised with the result I got online. I read that Jews today don't pay tithe at all at least for now. The reason they gave is because there are no Levites or priests in the modern era working in the temple since even the temple itself have been destroyed since about than 2000 years ago. If you visit Jerusalem today, it is a Mosque that is reportedly built on top of the old site foundation of the former Temple. The Levites were supposed to be full time helpers to the priests in the matters of the temple. The priests themselves were Levites too chosen from the family of Aaron - Moses elder brother. The requirement that permitted Levites to collect tithes was because unlike other Israelites, they were not given large expanse of land to practice agriculture. Hence, other Israelites were commanded to share their farm produce with them to support them in the ministry(temple service) in the form of 10 percent. Today, that system doesn't operate anymore in Israel of the Middle East or among Jews anywhere else in the world. Also, even during the Old Testament and New Testament era, prophets who were the ideal men of GOD that time never collected tithes from people. No where did Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel etc collect tithe from anyone. Why? Because they were not Levites nor priest ! Simple! But they were allowed to collect freewill gifts from people. This is the normal standard that even the new testament Apostles followed too. 2 Cor 9:6 . Math 10:18 . Pastors, Prophets, Evangelist, Teachers and Apostles are not Levites or Priests! No where did Jesus command them to collect it. What Jesus told His disciples about gifts and offering can be found in Math 10:42 " And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.” This is what is called freewill offering or gift. It should be done generously without compulsion or cajoling unlike what most prosperity preachers are doing these days. If GOD truly call anyone into the ministry, GOD Himself will provide support for his upkeep by raising divine helpers for the servant. Most prosperity preachers usually cite Mal 3: 8-12. But that verses were addressed to the same Jews who are supposed to be paying the Levitical tithes to the Priests and Levites and those tithes were agricultural produce and not money. That's why Malachi said " Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat (food) in mine house " . It was not money. Remember, even money existed as a means trade or currency, yet Levites and Priests were never commanded to collect money as tithes. Another place that many tithing pastor usually cite is Math 23:23 where our Lord JESUS said " Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. ". Yet, that scripture was addressed not to JESUS disciples but the Pharisees and teachers of the Law(Old testament) . Please people of GOD, the matter of tithe or any old testament argument has been concluded by the Apostles in Acts 15 already when some of the Christians were insisting that gentile converts obey the law of Moses ( circumcision). Remember circumcision is even more important to the Jews and Israelites than tithe. Without circumcision, you are not even part of the commonwealth of Israel. You are simply an outcast and your offerings and tithes will be like a taboo. This shows the gravity of Circumcision to a typical Jew. The conclusion of the elders(Apostles) on this matter can be found in Acts 15:20 which states: " Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. " Tithes was not even included. If Circumcision that was even be considered a weightier matter of the Old Testament Law can be suspended , then why would a Tithe not be ? The summary of this 4 requirements is simply sanctification , purity or holiness. These were the only aspect of the old testament law that transcend to the new testament because a believer is required to be holy at all times in addition to Love toward GOD and fellow man(which is the greatest commandment. Math 22:36- 40) . Sexual immorality and idolatry can defile a Christian . My personal belief on tithe is this. It is not compulsory in the New Testament based on what we can see on the Scriptures and not human psychology, philosophy or tradition of men being imposed on believers these days. However, a Christian may be encouraged (not compelled or threatened with fear) to give tithes out of love to support the Gospel. However it should be given to missionaries, full time ministers, widows, orphans, the poor and any vulnerable people in the society . It should not be given to prosperity preachers who are accumulating the money into their bank accounts to build their empire and support their lavish lifestyle. This is a doctrine of mammon. The old Testament High Priests or Levites didn't live such lifestyle at all. Neither did the Apostles in the New Testament era accumulate wealth or proceeds from people for their personal gain. They simply shared it out to members of their Christian community to help them. Yet, people were willing and eager to give freely to them. |
Published By: Ademola Adegbamigbe (PUNCH NEWSPAPER) 5th July, 2022 Like Creflo Dollar, the American preacher, several Nigerian pastors also do not believe or preach tithing, unlike other Pentecostals who make tithing one of their cardinal doctrines. One of them is Pastor Sam Adeyemi, founder and president of Daystar Christian Center. His position is that God did not tell anybody to pay tithe. If you are paying it, it is because you chose to do it, it is not compulsory, he said. On Sunday, 25 February 2022, he told his congregation: “People should not give out of fear.” As reported by Church Times, Adeyemi said he personally took interest in the tithe debate, did a lot of studies and concluded that God is not angry with anybody that does not pay tithe nor is the person under any form of curse. “I have been following the tithe debate. I discovered that it has been an age-long debate and it will be on for a long time. “My first observation is that church people are behaving as if we own the word tithe. We don’t own the word. It is an English word. I want to say clearly that tithe, as practised under the law of Moses, has expired. The death and resurrection of Jesus have put paid to it. It has expired.” “All the requirements of the law were satisfied under Christ” adding however that “It is a gamble to say Jesus never paid tithe. The fact that it was not written that Jesus paid tithe does not mean he did not do it. I can also claim that Jesus did not go to the toilet because it is not written. Eighteen years of his life were not recorded in the Bible. When he was born his parents satisfied the requirements of the law. John 21v25 says there are many things he did that were not recorded. Jesus did not say it was wrong to pay tithe in his day.” Adeyemi noted further: “The law of the spirit of life in Christ has made us free. Romans 8 tells us that we are free. No Christian should feel guilty for not paying tithe. There is nothing you can add to what Jesus did to be qualified before God. When Jesus said it is finished it was finished. Gal 3v13 says Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law. A Christian is not cursed because he or she did not pay tithe. A Christian should not give out of fear. A Christian should give out of love. We are free from guilt, from fear. We are in a dispensation of grace.” Another preacher who is in the same boat with Dollar is Nigerian born Pastor Sunday Adelaja, founder and president of The Embassy of the Blessed Kingdom of for all Nations with his headquarters in Ukraine. He said he does not collect Tithe from his member because it is not Biblical. He argued, “Matthew 23v23 is not addressed to the followers of Jesus. He was talking to the Pharisee. And he was not asking them to pay money tithe. He was saying they pay tithe of mint, dill and cumin, not money tithe. “There is no place in the scripture where money is paid as tithe. The only place where money is allowed is in Deut. 14v22-28 where the Lord says the people can exchange their tithe for money in case the products they are carrying are too heavy for them and that they should eventually use the money to buy what they like and eat. That is the only place where tithe is mentioned in connection to money.” Adelaja explained, “I don’t believe tithing is commanded in the New Testament. We are under no obligation to pay tithe. Nobody should force you to pay tithe. But on your own, you pay out of love.” There is also Pastor Femi Aribisala, the fellowship coordinator of Healing Wings, a pentecostal Christian fellowship. An article published in Daily Post, entitled “Every Pastor who collects tithes is a thief, argued: “As far as many pastors are concerned, the most important scripture of all is not to be found in the word of Jesus. Neither is it even in the New Testament. That scripture says: “‘Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house, and try me now in this,’ says the LORD of hosts, ‘If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it.’” (Malachi 3:10). “Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for keeping part instead of the whole law. (Matthew 23:23). That is what tithe-collecting pastors do today. “If we insist our congregants must pay tithes, we must also insist that they keep the rest of the law. James says: “Whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.” (James 2:10). Therefore, if we insist on tithing, we should also refrain from eating pork. We should stone adulterers, execute homosexuals, kill Sabbath violators and restore blood sacrifices”, Aribisala wrote. Dollars caused a stir this week when he admitted that he had all the while been preaching heresy about tithes. His new position now is that the concept belonged to the Old Testament, not the New Dispensation. In one of his Sunday ministrations, titled, “The Great Misunderstanding” he cited Romans 6: 14 to argue that Christians now live under grace and not the laws of the Old Testament. Romans 6: 14: “For sin shall not have dominion over you; for ye are not under the law, but under the grace” You are under grace not under laws, he noted. Tithe-collecting pastors counter this by maintaining the payment of tithes pre-dated by the law. Abraham is cited as the cardinal example of someone who paid tithes before the promulgation of the Law of Moses, as did Jacob, his grandson. However, such arguments are disingenuous. This scripture is drummed repeatedly into Christians on Sundays. However, the only time Jesus mentioned tithing in scripture, he pointed out that it was not a weighty matter of the law. (Matthew 23:23). Hebrews says people only receive tithes “according to the law.” (Hebrews 7:5). It then insists tithing (and everything else under the law) has been annulled: “The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless.” (Hebrews 7:18-19). Nevertheless, mercenary pastors continue to insist on the payment of tithes. Before the law, tithing was at best an example but not a commandment. Moreover, pastors fail to mention that Abraham only tithed once in his lifetime. When he did, he did not even tithe his own money: he tithed the spoils of war. He gave ten per cent of the plunder he took when he rescued Lot to Melchisedec, king of Salem. But then he did not even keep the rest but returned it (all ninety per cent) to the king of Sodom.” Also, Pastor Gabriel Uka, founder and president of Praise Assembly argued that tithing is not for new testament believers. Pastor John Wada is not left out. The founder and president of Jesus Deliverance Ministries does not collect a tithe from his members. He argued also that tithing had ended in the Old testament. They all echo the position of Daddy Freeze, a social critic who, in a past post on Instagram, argued: “Tithing is a sinful practice that carries a curse for Christians. There is no scriptural record of Non-Jewish Christians paying tithes”. Source: Punch Newspaper. https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2022/07/05/3-nigerian-pastors-united-against-tithing-like-creflo-dollar/
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Last year's delay was most likely due to Covid19 spillover. amdx21: |
I think he was referring to undergraduate admissions and not post graduate's. Some years back, even Unilag used to require it in addition to UME score. perrychemical: |
Hmmm. But you made A's in your Maths, English and Geography I suppose? Mrhenry007: |
No! I was referring to the experienced (current or former) PTDF scholar's explanation on the candidates who are already studying as PhD students elsewhere in US/Europe before getting PTDF scholarship. These categories are the ones they were likely referring to as being offered partial scholarships since they must have already gotten some form of funding elsewhere already. tolaade1960: |
This is the meaning of the flat foot you were diagnosed of FalseProphet1:
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Please , let's not discourage anyone asking questions as pertinent answers may be helpful for others too . Nevertheless, I have this question too. Is it true that despite the minimum O-level requirements being the 5 credits (including Maths and English listed on the PTDF website), during actual grading, once the candidate meets this aforementioned requirements, the highest grades in all related subjects would be picked irrespective of Maths and English?
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I think it may depend on the scenario. For instance, the scholar may be given partial funding as indicated by some experienced people here. Otherwise, the slot might be transferred to the next candidate in the ranking. jlomz: |
Since you mentioned that they were for the 2020/2021 session, I guess those candidates got better offers in the US admissions. Don't forget US schools usually offer full funding for PhDs and some select MSc programs. Many candidates competing for PTDF are equally trying other scholarship options in the US, Canada etc. In such cases, the candidates will most likely opt for the US school rather than the UK's. jlomz: |
The 2022 award list has not been released yet, hence, the Whatsapp group is likely not existing for now. Perhaps by July it will be created . oyins4gunners: |
Thanks for the info. It seems about 95% of the successful candidates are basically chosen from STEM fields. btsnm: |
Why not try and appy for a related course offered by the school as long as it's within computing. If the admission has closed, u can try other universities in the UK recognised by PTDF. Some admissions are still open till October. omokudu: |
It does not matter for now. omokudu: |
Seems both of you are related for you to have known and even seen his name on the list. Wishing you guys and all of everyone of us the best by GOD's grace. ExpertNLer: |


