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nwabekeyi:
lol, how come fruits are not sandy?
Is this really a point?

Yes , it is. That is perfection from a Perfect Creator.

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purem:
@enilove your claim is absurd in every sense

If you claim that a supernatural force is behind the cause of all existence then what/who is behind the force?

For him to create all this then he must have a creator

You are wrong.
Everything you can think of was created but GOD was not created and that is why He is the Almighty Creator.

johnydon22:
So your argument basically is hinting that complexity must have a causality?

correct?

Let me put it in the right sentence for you , " there is no creation without a Creator except God.

johnydon22:
why?

The clothes you are putting on , your shoes , TV , the house you live were made by someone . Why do think that the universe, as complex and perfect as it is was not the handwork of someone?

Take for example the fruits of various kinds and their sweetness . How do they come about their sweetness , from the soil or from the sky. Can science derive sweetness from the soil ?

Also , how come the fruits are never sandy , despite the facts that they are products of the soil ?

There is a Creator that made all these things.

God exists.

Realcash224:
a recent video which has gone viral on social media, general overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) disclosed that anyone who does not pay his or her tithe will not make heaven. Following this video, Daddy Freeze shared it on his Instagram handle and once again stated his disappointment in the man of God. He also seized the opportunity to ask if the man of God in his right senses.
He shared the video with the caption:
Daddy Freeze in his lengthy message on his YouTube channel, revolted saying enough of the deceit. He however opened the scriptures to back his claim. Watch video below:
1:06:10
Make Heaven if you don ’ t pay tithe .
JOIN US TODAY, AS I TEACH THIS IN 30 MINUTES, LIVE ON YOUTUBE.COM/DADDYFREEZETEACHES "FIVE REASONS WHY ADEBOYE WONT MAKE HEAVEN" – THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO HIS TEACHING THAT SURFACED YESTERDAY. JOIN US AN BE FULL OF KNOWLEDGE!
A POST SHARED BY FRZ (@DADD...
“IS THIS FOR REAL? IF IT IS, ARE THIS MAN’S SENSES STILL IN HIS CUSTODY? IS THIS HOW HARD THIS TITHING ISSUE IS BITING THEM? DO I SENSE DESPERATION? PHILIPPIANS 3:19 NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION; THEIR DESTINY IS DESTRUCTION, THEIR GOD IS THEIR BELLY, AND THEIR GLORY IS IN THEIR SHAME. THEIR MIND IS SET ON EARTHLY THINGS. HIS SON CAME OUT THE OTHER DAY AND SAID TITHING HAS INCREASED, DOES IT LOOK TO YOU LIKE IT HAS?
HOW DARE HE CURSE PEOPLE WITH HELL? LET ME SHOW HIM THE BIBLE TODAY AND TEACH HIM THAT TITHING IS WHAT ENSURES PEOPLE OF HELL! JESUS SAID LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF, YET THEY DISOBEY JESUS BY BUILDING SCHOOLS THEIR NEIGHBORS CAN’T ATTEND, OFTEN WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS CONTRIBUTION.
HOW CAN YOU DISOBEY JESUS AND TELL ME TO OBEY MALACHI? MARK 12:31 NIV THE SECOND IS THIS: ‘LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ THERE IS NO COMMANDMENT GREATER THAN THESE. TITHING IS THE LAW AND TEACHERS OF THE LAW ARE GOING TO HELL ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE READ IT! CHRISTIANITY DESERVES AN APOLOGY FOR THIS UNSCRIPTURAL DOCTRINES AND TEACHING.
LET ME TELL YOU GUYS THE REAL TRUTH, TITHING IS AN UNPROFITABLE VENTURE BECAUSE IT IS THE LAW AND IT BRINGS CURSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DON’T OBEY THE ENTIRE LAW! FRZ #FREETHESHEEPLE.”

This Daddy freeze has no respect for his elders , which is the spirit of the end times.

There is no doubt that Pastor Adeboye is as old as his father , can he ask his father if he is in his right sense of mind? This means he is not a christian. Even if we assume he is a christian , who made him a judge over Pastor Adeboye?
Has the God that called Pastor Adeboye not powerful enough to purnish him ?

The Bible says in :

Matthew 7:1-5 KJV
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
[2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
[4] Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? [5] Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

What is the stand of Jesus on tithe and the Laws ?

Luke 11:42 KJV
But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: THESE OUGHT YE TO HAVE DONE, AND NOT TO LEAVE THE OTHER UNDONE.

Jesus said , of curse , you should pay the tithe but should not have left the other parts undone. Which are justice , love etc.



Matthew 5:18-20 KJV
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Jesus himself said we must keep the laws. I did not write it.
He also said we should be more righteous than the Pharisees .
The Pharisees do pay their tithes.
He said we should not break the laws and teach people to do the same.


I know why some people still listen to Daddy freeze :

2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves TEACHERS, having itching ears;
[4] And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

removetheturban:
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more.

Now, if all the good people went to heaven, will they pass away with the old heaven?

Which heaven were you told that you would go to?

You don't know the scriptures.
The heaven that is going to pass away is the heaven over the earth and not the heaven where God dwell :

Genesis 1:16-17 KJV
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. [17] And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

Deuteronomy 10:14 KJV
Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the Lord's thy God, the earth also , with all that therein is .

2 Chronicles 6:18 KJV
But will God in very deed dwell with men on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house which I have built!

Psalm 115:16 KJV
The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's : but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

The saints are going to heaven where God dwells until the earth and its heaven be destroyed. The heaven of heavens shall remain.

Auki:
Life, birds, me, you and all was created by the creator of the Heavens and Earth. I mean one God, the forgiven the merciful.

I agree with you, it is God that created the birds , the heavens and the earth.
In the Quran , Surah 5:110 and 3: 49 , Jesus Christ took a clay , breathed into it and it became a living bird and it flew, is Jesus not God then ?

The Israelites had been worshipping One God for over 2, 500 years ever b4 the Arabs started talking about one God .

The problem with you Muslims is lack of spiritual knowledge .
Just as we will all say there is ONE PRESIDENT in Nigeria and can be said to be RIGHT and also WRONG , so it is in the spiritual.
The vice president is also a PRESIDENT and has POWER and can represent Nigerian at home and abroad , likewise it is spiritually . It does not mean we have TWO PRESIDENT OR THREE PRESIDENT. It is still one , but it will be wrong to say the vice is not a president, The vice is a president but second in command. The President can send him to represent him and people must honour him , as long as he and the president are united or ONE.

Jesus is the Son of God . The Son of God is God in all ramifications.
It is lack of spiritual knowledge to say God cannot have a Son because He does not have a wife. All the angels in heaven were created by God without a wife , why then do we doubt His power to have a Son ?

B4 Jesus came to show himself and died for us , he had been showing himself to the prophets of old in the Bible, like Abraham and Moses. The Bible had recorded his identity as a child of God b4 he came to die for us.

Proverbs 8:22-36 KJV
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
[23] I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
[24] When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
[25] Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
[26] While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
[27] When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
[28] When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
[29] When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
[30] Then I was by him, as one brought up with him : and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
[31] Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
[32] Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
[33] Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not. [34] Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
[35] For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord .
[36] But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

Isaiah 7:14 KJV
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

John 8:51-59 KJV
Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
[52] Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. [53] Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
[54] Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
[55] Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. [56] Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it , and was glad.
[57] Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
[58] Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
[59] Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Pls take your time and read the above scriptures .

Auki:
Anybody that believe and obey God, before, during and after Jesus will surely find mercy from their Lord. Worship only one God without partner.

God that destroyed pharaoh, Noah's people is the same God of today. No change in His requirements.

The idea that Jesus share or even own some of your creator sovereignty is stupendous blasphemy and utmost wrong. Worshipping Jesus as God, Son of God or part of triune God is sure ticket to Hell.

Be more concerns with your salvation.

That is what you were taught .

Who can create and give life other than God?

Who created the birds of the air ?

I need your answer , if you are sure of what you posted.

bingbagbo:
And there shall be no more curse, but [b]the throne of God and of the Lamb [/b]shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him (Revelations 22:3)

“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”(Revelations 22:12-13)

16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”(Revelations 22 :16)


21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all.[m] Amen.(Revelations 22 :21)


WHO GIVES GRACE BUT GOD? THE GRACE OF JESUS, CHECK FROM YOUR BIBLE. REPENT JESUS CHRIST IS GOD ALMIGHTY.

Are you calling Jesus Christ a liar?

John 14:28 KJV
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Mark 9:37 KJV
Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.

Luke 10:16 KJV
He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.

John 5:23 KJV
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

John 5:37-38 KJV
And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. [38] And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

Mark 16:19 KJV
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

onyerhuku:
Gud day, i recently heard some persons in my street arguing about eternity and someone asked what will happen to those who died before Jesus Christ came into this world that didn't hear or knew him? Where will they spend their eternity? As a Christian, the bible said in John 14:6 "i am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except by me". So those persons living in places that haven't heard of Christ and died or those that have died before Christ came without hearing or knowing him, are they automatically condemned or there is any hope for them?

Those that died b4 Jesus came will be judged according to their deeds .
And those who did not hear the gospel will also be judged according to what they did.

You might say, " but they did not know what is sinful and what is not ' , the Bible says in :
Romans 2:11-16 KJV
For there is no respect of persons with God.
[12] For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
[13] (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
[14] For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
[15] Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
[16] In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.



John 5:24-29 KJV
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
[25] Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
[26] For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
[27] And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
[28] Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
[29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


1 Peter 3:19-20 KJV
By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; [20] Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.


1 Peter 4:5-6 KJV
Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
[6] For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

Ephesians 4:8-9 KJV
Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
[9] (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

removetheturban:
Do they all stem from one?
Who is that one?

God the Father.

chidexco:
HAPPY SUNDAY NAIRALANDERS...

Many of us believe that a man is made up of SPIRIT, SOUL AND BODY. But i am one of the people that believe that the soul of a man is the same thing as the spirit of that man.
So if you are among those that believe they are different(ie they are three in number) so tell me what is the difference between the soul of a man and the spirit of that man.

Spirit and soul are not the same.

Man is a tripartite or triplex being. The creation of man is divided into or comprises of 3 parts.

The Body ..,. created from dust
The spirit..... gotten from God. This also the breath of life.
The soul....... which is the human being living in a body and empowered by the spirit living inside the body.

Genesis 2:7 KJV
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



Genesis 41:8 KJV
And it came to pass in the morning that his SPIRIT was troubled; and he sent and called for all the magicians of Egypt, and all the wise men thereof: and Pharaoh told them his dream; but there was none that could interpret them unto Pharaoh.

THE SPIRIT WAS TROUBLED AND NOT THE SOUL.

Genesis 41:38 KJV
And Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is , a man in whom the SPIRIT of God is ?

A COMPLETE OR NORMAL HUMAN MUST HAVE THE Spirit of GOD.

Leviticus 19:31 KJV
Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.

A MAN CAN HAVE ANOTHER SPIRIT DIFF FROM THE SPIRIT OF GOD .

Leviticus 20:6 KJV
And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.

The above dererentiates between the SPIRIT and SOUL . "The SOUL that turneth after the familiar SPIRIT", not the spirit that turneth after familiar spirit.

It is either you have the Spirit of God or the spirit of the devil .

Below you can see that the SOUL, SPIRIT AND BODY are differentiated :

1 Thessalonians 5:23 KJV
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 4:12 KJV
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Martinez19:
I opened this thread to point out the truth about a particular tactic that many churches, particularly MFM, are fond of.

You are saying what you don't know. There are Thousands of churches b4 MFM that could have used such tactics if it could work.

Do you think you are wiser than millions of the members of MFM , who can tell you categorically that God of MFM is not imaginary but real ?

Seeing is believing , I am a testifier that God is real.

If you have the time , go to MFM prayer city , along Ibadan Express way , on any Monday morning . You will see at least 1000 people who are there for deliverance, go to where those with mental problems are , Identify them and go back on Thursday to confirm their state of mind .
You don't need to stay there throughout the week. Go on Monday morning to identify those with problems and go back on Thursday morning to see whether God is real or not.
Very simple. You can then come here and talk from your own experience.

The church has no business with telling the govt where chibok girls are kept and so on. Religion is not politics.

Nutase:
Why can't you guys leave the church alone and mind your business? You're just drinking panadol for another mans headache.

They are agents of darkness.

Why are they not against the Muslim or Book Haram who kidnapped Leah Shuab?
All the rituals , kidnappings , rape and other social menaces are there that should be condemned, but they want to join that agent of Darkness ,Daddy fresh, to destroy Christianity .

After all , the churches are not forcing anyone .

CuteMadridista:
Is OP wrong about MFM's tactics? if you answer yes to that then set OP aright rather than quoting irrelevant verses

I don't need to correct him.

You should ask yourself what the Op intent was for opening the thread.

It is an agent of darkness that derives joy in pulling down the church of God.

If you are a better christian , go out there and help the lost souls and not post things that would discredit the churches and increase souls going to hell.

Don't forget :

Matthew 12:35-36 KJV
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
[36] But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Stop doing the work of the devil for the devil.

removetheturban:
I have tried to help you with this, bro. You should learn.
You need to know that time has changed. Look up the meaning of obsolete and match your finding with your calendar. You are in two separate epochs. You need to be fully initiated into this new age.
He is risen=She is taken
compare the two and ask yourself if your analysis above is correct.
Does 'she is taken' mean that she took herself without a help?

Welcome to grammar 101

It is a pity , your type will claim to be a graduate , isn't it ?

"she is taken " & "he is taken " are alike but not "he is risen".

This is secondary school level English grammar .

Is it not funny to say " welcome to grammar 101 to your lecturer , who had gone past that level more than 20 years ago?

For the last time , I will explain this again.

Matthew 14:1-2 KJV
At that time Herod the tetrarch heard of the fame of Jesus,
[2] And said unto his servants, This is John the Baptist; he is risen from the dead; and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him.

Matthew 28:5-7 KJV
And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
[6] He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.
[7] And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you.

The word ' rise ' is a transitive verb. It means to get up with one's own effort without d help of somebody else.

Jesus rose from the dead by his power .He told his disciples this in :

John 10:15-18 KJV
As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
[16] And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
[17] Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
[18] No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

That power to lay down his life and take it up again is what is described above as "he is risen". It is not the same as "he is raised".

The 3 forms of the verb "rise" are ; ' rise' , rose, and 'risen'.
Ex.
The sun rises in d morng ( present tense )
He "rose " from his bed ( past tense )
The sky is bright because the sun is "risen"( Present perfect ).

The word "raised"is an intransitive verb which means to lift or elevate. The verb must have a complement. Like the example you gave , " she was raised " . It means someone complemented her effort to get upright.

The forms are , raised / raised /raised.
Ex.
At times d coy "raises" the prices of essential goods....PRESENT TENSE.

The govt has " raised " d price of petrol......PAST TENSE.

In summary , Jesus resurrected himself and was not ressurected and was the reason the Bible says " he is risen" and not " he is raised ".

Raised and rise are different verbs with diff. meanings.

That is final from me on this issue .

sirusX:
We should learn to accommodate and sacrifice for others

Although the act of blocking the street is really a problem, but I don't think the prayer lasts for a long time

Is it not lawlessness to block roads because you want to pray?

That is the problem with this satanic religion.
They are lawless. How can you block the road for more than 30 minutes because you want to pray ?

If Christians should be doing same on Sundays , would it not create frictions and inconveniences to the community?

removetheturban:
I hear you.
"Is' is widely known as the verb "to be". Yes, there is a verb to be in "he is risen" and it is "is" which serves as an auxiliary verb.
Another example is "she is taken".
Because you have failed to grasp that you are not in touch with the truth. The examples in my comments are to guide you to better understanding.
You seem to be correct yet stuck in a mud of confusion. I posted a verse from a modern English Bible but you insisted that 'the scripture is wrong' and rather posted a verse from KJV in Shakespearean English. Now, you are the same one having difficulties in understanding. You are using a Shakespearean English Bible and at the same time contending with new English grammar. Either must go for you to move on, your first-rate knowledge of English grammar or your Shakespearean Bible.
Me: The Lord Was Raised Up!
You: He is risen
You need to settle to see the intricate fact shown to you. What is the difference to you?

Are you saying that the sentence " he is raised " is not diff from the sentence "he is risen" ?

He is raised means he is helped to rise.
He is risen means he rose by himself without help.

There is no need to continue with this thread.

salvation101:
That it doesn't appeal to your reasoning doesn't make it wrong. You quoted where Jesus said in Rev 3:21 that he is set on his father's throne or you also do not believe that?
Stephen saw Jesus standing by that throne (not on a different throne) , the Bible also said Jesus is seated on the right side of God, did it mention dat it was on a different throne. U are looking at a spiritual mystery tru a carnal lens and you expect it would make perfect sense to you. The bible is clear that Jesus and the father shared glory

The should always endeavour to read people comment .

In Revelation 3:21 , the Bible did not say Jesus sits ON the throne but sits in the throne ...

Revelation 3:21 KJV
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

I am asking you again, are we ,also, going to sit with Jesus on the throne ? Since the above reads " sit with me in my throne ?

Jesus said he was sent by God.
He also said the Father is greater than him ( Jesus)
He called God the Father his God.
He said he does not know when the trumpet will sound.
The Bible says we cannot see God and Moses and Abraham saw God.

This is another evidence :

Proverbs 8:22-36 KJV
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
[23] I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
[24] When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
[25] Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
[26] While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
[27] When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
[28] When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
[29] When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
[30] Then I was by him, as one brought up with him : and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
[31] Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
[32] Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
[33] Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
[34] Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
[35] For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord .
[36] But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

John 13:16 KJV
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.


John 14:28 KJV
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Matthew 21:36-40 KJV
Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. [37] But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. [38] But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. [39] And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him . [40] When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?

salvation101:
interesting.. I see u r trying to reason with ur carnal understanding of wat a throne is but time space and matter doesn't restrict the realm we are talking about

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and eve

The one sitting upon the throne in this case was the lamb or is God also the lamb?

I am surprised . This scripture is very clear :

Revelation 5:13 KJV
And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.


There are two personalities being worshipped here ; the One sitting on the throne and the Lamb .

Did you not read this ?

Revelation 5:1-6 KJV
And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
[2] And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
[3] And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. [4] And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
[5] And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
[6] And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

You can choose to disregard what is written and believe what you like , but the above points are enough to show you that God is higher than Jesus,
Jesus said God is higher than him and called Him His God.

All these are in the Bible.

Samuelgr8:
Hello LS,

Please help me post my story. You can use any name but not my name please.

I am married to a man from Middle belt in Nigeria. We met at work,we work in the same company. Its almost three years of marriage now and I am pregnant with my second baby. My husband’s elder brother came to stay with us when he was briefly deployed to Lagos. He is in the police force,I dont want to mention his rank but he is a senior officer.

This my husband’s brother began to display certain behavior that I am not comfortable with. He will just come inside my bedroom without knocking. He does anything he likes without asking. He said,in their culture ,that men are free to see any woman in the family as their wife. So if he chose to sleep with me,he has a right to do so. I thought he was joking but my husband confirmed it. I told him that can never happen with me. My husband said something unbelievable,that he has ..........

https://livelystones.com.ng/my-husbands-family-and-their-twisted-culture-of-adultery/

A culture is nothing but a way of behaviour or ways of life of a particular set of people or society.
If their beliefs or traditions contradicts the commandments of God , you have the right to reject it .

You will account for how you use your body , which is the temple of the Holy Spirit , before God. Your husband will not stand to defend you.

This is what the Bible says as per your case :

Leviticus 18:1-6,16 KJV
And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
[2] Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the Lord your God.
[3] After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances.
[4] Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the Lord your God.
[5] Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the Lord .
[6] None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their unclothedness: I am the Lord .
[16] Thou shalt not uncover the unclothedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's unclothedness.

Jesus said :

Matthew 5:16-20 KJV
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

The Pharisees don't sleep with their brother's wife and Jesus told us that OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS SHOULD EVEN BE HIGHER THAN THOSE OF THE PHARISEES.

God is able to fight your battles for you, just commit your family into the hands of God and don't agree with their HELL culture .
Let your husband know that you are not going to do it. Then go on fasting and prayers.

May God help you to overcome, in Jesus name.

salvation101:
how did you miss that bolded part? It is stated there that Jesus and the father sit on the same throne. The throne of God is also the throne of Jesus. In the visions of Ezekiel where he saw the throne of God, he only saw one throne. There aren't multiple thrones cos it is a shared glory and little wonder cos its a mystery. Even in the ark of covenant wch moses built according to the vision God showed him as a representation of the way it was in heaven, there is only one throne wch is called the mercy seat

You err.

Two kings cannot sit on the same throne.

Are we all going to share the same throne or sit on the same throne with Jesus ?
Moreover , the scripture did not say ON his throne but IN his throne. Which means in God's palace or Jesus' palace.

Revelation 3:21 KJV
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

This should assist us further :

Revelation 5:1-9 KJV
And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
[2] And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
3] And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
[4] And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
[5] And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
[6] And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
[7] And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
[8] And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
[9] And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

The lamb that came to take the scroll is Jesus Christ our Saviour and our God.

The throne is described here below :

Revelation 4:2-11 KJV
And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
[3] And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
[4] And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
[5] And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. [6] And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
[7] And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
[8] And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him ; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
[9] And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
[10] The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
[11] Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

The ONE sitting on the throne is God the Father.

salvation101:
good. And what kingdom was being referred to cos i see u r trying to water it down. Wat scepter and kingdom is referred to here? Is it a lesser kingdom to dat ur big G is God over?

It not about watering down but about fact.

The kingdom is the kingdom of God the Father.
In God's Kingdom , Jesus has a throne and God the Father has His throne which is higher than that of the Son :

Revelation 3:20-21 KJV
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
[21] To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

salvation101:
how about where God called Jesus God in Heb 1:8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom

There is a difference between calling someone a God and calling someone MY GOD.

God called idols or falling angels/demons "gods". It is the Bible that identifies which one is small letter 'g' or capital letter 'G'.

God calls we His children 'gods '.
Psalm 82:6 KJV
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

God promoted Moses to the level of god for Pharaoh :

Exodus 7:1 KJV
And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

My point is , the fact that God calls someone "god' or 'God' does not mean the person or the idols are greater than God Himself.
Jesus Christ is our God and our Creator but not God to his Father nor His Creator.

It is God the Father that is God of all and Jesus Christ Lord of all and not Lord over his Father,

Philadelphia:
Your words in bold are outrageously incorrect. Here's what the Bible said about Jesus' equality with the Father Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Is it the words of the Lord you will accept or the words of man like you?

Jesus said :

John 14:28 KJV
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.


God the Father is not GREATER AND HIGHER than the Son. Jesus confirmed this , as seen above.

Jesus called God the Father his God in :
Revelation 3:12 KJV
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

removetheturban:
Everything I posted is a verse from the Bible.
No, because he called his father his God and father while the father called him his son and never his God.
Jesus said that he came to do the will of his God and father and not his will while the father.
Jesus said that his father sent him forth and the Bible said that the Jesus is God's BEGOTTEN son.
Jesus referred to his father as THE ONLY TRUE GOD while he referred to himself as the one sent forth.
Jesus is the firstborn of all creation but the father has no beginning.
They are both titles. Lord is master/Sir while God is Mighty One or Strong One.
I am delighted that you posted it. Look intently at the two prepositions and the knowledge will be revealed to you. "Of"(which is supposed to be "from" if you check other translations and the Greek) indicates the origin or originator of all things while "by" is a medium through which all things came to be.
I agree with you and Jesus was also created because he is the firstborn of all creation. Jesus proclaimed that a husband and a wife are one.
Jesus also said that we will be one JUST AS he and his father are one.
I am sure that the above makes a sense to you. Can you see the meaning of oneness through Jesus' words?
Beautiful! But doesn't this discredit the doctrine of the Holy Spirit being a third member of a trinity? You will have to get around this verse to prove the trinity. Such a hard task it will be.
Anyway, if we go by this translation, there will also be a shakeup in many other verses in your own Bible because the Greek word used there is Theos and it is also the same word used to describe Satan. So, you might have another hard time convincing anyone when the word pops up on Satan.
The correct translation is "the word was a god"

You don't understand the scriptures :
Revelation 1:8-11,17-18 KJV
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[9] I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[10] I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
[11] Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
[17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
[18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Jesus is God the Son , the Alpha and Omega , the Almighty .

Even the Jews understood what it means to be "one" with God:

John 10:30-39 KJV
I and my Father are one.
[31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. [32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? [33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
[37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
[38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. [39] Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

removetheturban:
to help you achieved a firm grasp of the truth, scripture means a "writing" or "document". If you had talked about translation, you would have been understood but you are talking about the scripture and you feel that you are referring to a verse or excerpt. The scripture is actually a collection of books. The Bible is made up of the Hebrew and Greek scriptures. Each scripture has many books and each book has one or many chapters.
Therefore, saying that my quote is wrong and yours is right means that you discredit the Bible translation that I posted.
Luke 24:34 who said: “For a fact the Lord was raised up, and he appeared to Simon!” NWT
I am glad that you have a first-rate knowledge of English grammar, to begin with. Nonetheless, you must have missed out on the opportunity to use it practically in your explanation above because you omitted the auxiliary verb and dwelled on the main verb. That slider is what you need to understand that the auxiliary has a fundamental function in that sentence. "He is risen" is a present perfect tense. Like I told you, the use of the verb 'to be' as an auxiliary before the main verb takes the action away from the subject.
We are forsaken
She is taken
He is risen
It is broken
But he says that all power(according to your Bible, the KJV) was GIVEN unto him. If Jesus doesn't equate himself to God, why do you? Your illustration of the Lion given birth is confusing. Is Jesus the Lion who gave birth to God?
But the KJV from which you have been quoting used "power" in place of authority. What should we do about that?
Which did Jesus receive from God authority or Power?

The Bible comprises of many scriptures , that is , many written words of God. The Luke 24:34 is part of the scriptures . That was why I told you the scripture you quoted was wrong.

What auxiliary verb is there in " he is risen" ? Did you see the verb " to be " in " he is risen ".

Go back and read my previous post. Why should a simple and direct sentence be so difficult for you ?

" He is raised " is not the same as " he is risen" , period.
I don't post just for posting sake.

If you don't understand that " he is risen " means "Jesus is risen" , that is left to you.
"Jesus is raised" is not the same as "Jesus is risen" , which is a present perfect tense.

Op, from the beginning of this thread, till now ,you have been trying to twist words to suit your purpose, which is very wrong.

You asked whether Jesus was resurrected by God or Jesus resurrected himself by quoting Luke 24:34. You claimed that the written words there is " for a fact the Lord is raised up ".

The Luke 24:34 is not the scripture but the location of the scripture. The written words " for a fact the Lord....." is the scripture. This was what I said was wrong and it has nothing to do with translation since you are not quoting from the Greek or Hebrew version. You only chose to twist the grammatical context.

The right scripture is this :

Luke 24:34 KJV
Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.

You are claiming that the sentence "the Lord is risen " means action was carried on the subject . This shows you have problems with English grammar or you are just trying to twist things to have your way.

The verb : 'rise' means to get up with one's own effort without the help of somebody else.
The verb does not have an object , as you claimed .

The 3 forms of ' rise ' are :
Rise ..... Present tense,
Rose ..... Past tense,
Risen....... Perfect tense.

The sun rises in the morning......PRESENT TENSE.
My father rose to attend to me ....PAST TENSE.
The sky is bright because d sun has risen...... Present perfect tense.

The verb "rise" is an intransitive verb while the verb "raise" is a transitive verb.

The verb "raise" means to cause or help to rise to a standing position.


From my explanation above, the scripture you quoted saying Jesus was "raised " is not the same with " Jesus is "risen", as written in KJV.

Jesus is not deceiving anyone. He says "he is one with his Father". He calls God his "God" and "Father" in the Bible. Jesus does not equate himself with God , the Father.
You cannot say because a lion was given birth to make it less powerful . Jesus Christ has the power like God the Father.
He can create and destroy just like the Father.

Lastly, Jesus said all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to him by God the Father . There is a difference between Authority and Power.
Authority is like "right to do something's" ,"warrant", "command" , "ground".
Authority without power is useless .
God gave Jesus His consent to do as he wants in heaven , on earth and underneath the earth. He has power to punish and pardon.

Think on the below:


John 10:29-38 KJV
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
[30] I and my Father are one.
[31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
[32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? [33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
[37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
[38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Mark 2:4-12 KJV
And when they could not come nigh unto him for the press, they uncovered the roof where he was: and when they had broken it up, they let down the bed wherein the sick of the palsy lay.
[5] When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.
[6] But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
[7] Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?
[8] And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts?
[9] Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?
[10] But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
[11] I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.
[12] And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.

removetheturban:
Trinitarians reject the idea that Jesus was created, yet 4 different Bible writers tell us he was.

(Proverbs 8:22) “22 Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago.”

(Micah 5:2) “ 2 And you, O Bethʹle·hem Ephʹra·thah, The one too little to be among the thousands of Judah, From you will come out for me the one to be ruler in Israel, Whose origin is from ancient times, from the days of long ago.”

(Colossians 1:15) “15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;”

(Revelation 3:14) “14 “To the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ceʹa write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God:”

Trinitarians reject the idea that Jesus has and still has a God, whom he worships.

(Matthew 27:45, 46) “45 From the sixth hour on, a darkness fell over all the land until the ninth hour. 46 About the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice, saying: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?””

(As a man prior to his death)

(John 20:17) “17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’””

(After his resurrection, but prior to ascension)

(Revelation 3:2) “2 Become watchful, and strengthen the things remaining that were ready to die, for I have not found your works fully performed before my God.”

(After his ascension, and after being glorified)

Trinitarians reject the idea that Jesus didn't believe he was God nor equal to God.

(John 5:19) “19 Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing.. . .”

(John 7:16, 17) “. . .“What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him who sent me. 17 If anyone desires to do His will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or I speak of my own originality.”

(John 10:36) “36 do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?”

(John 17:3) “3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.”

The apostle John didn't believe Jesus was God.

(Revelation 1:6) “6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father. . .”

Paul didn't believe Jesus was God.

(1 Corinthians 8:5, 6) “. . .just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him;. . .”

(2 Corinthians 1:3) “3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of tender mercies and the God of all comfort,”

The apostle Peter didn't believe Jesus was God.

(1 Peter 1:3) “3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,”

My prayer for trinitarians is the same prayer as Paul.

Ephesians 1:17 (NRSV) 17 I pray that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation as you come to know him,

Until trinitarians understand and apply this verse, they will never have wisdom of who the only true God is.

All you posted above are true but half truth.

Let me ask you some questions . Is Jesus not God like his Father?
What is the difference between LORD AND GOD.
Why did you decide not to give the complete scriptures of 1Cor.8 : 5-6.

1 Corinthians 8:5-6 KJV
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
[6] But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

There is no doubt that God the Father is greater that Jesus but Jesus and God are one .
Jesus does only things that pleases his Father and that is why they are said to be "one".
God ,the Father, is God to our Lord Jesus Christ and Jesus is God to everything here on earth and in heaven.
There is nothing that was created that was not created by God, the Father, and his Son , Jesus Christ.


John 1:1-3 KJV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.