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But don't waste your time saving with it. You'll save there for months, and when you withdraw, they won't give you the promised interest.

Mind you. They have free withdrawal days. But even when you withdraw on one of those days, they still won't give you the interest. You'l get back only your saved funds.

Low-key scamming! Just using the promise of interest to make people keep their funds with them.

MaxInDHouse:
Evil is what the society agreed upon as EVIL.
Each religion can later determine what they can term as evil on their own but you can't say someone or a group is evil as long as they're operating within the bounds of the laws in the human society!

Oga, i no get your power. I only called your attention to the full statement - "it is not right to use the bible to do evil". You initially picked only the first part (it is not right to use the bible); and you were beating a straw man (even saying why someone will say JWs should not use the bible)
However you choose to argue. continue. It does not change the fact that it is not right to use the bible or any other holy book to do evil. Whether it is the JWs, catholics, other christian groups, muslims, or other non-christian religious group, it is not right to use some holy verses to do evil.

MaxInDHouse:
So i disagree with you on this and i repeat that Boko Haram are killing people up and down because they feel you people are evil based on their own Interpretation of God's word not what the society at large agreed upon as EVIL!

Honestly, sometimes i struggle to follow you. Who's disputing this with you? Are the activities of the Boko Haram guys not widely condemned as evil.
The Boko Haram guys read verses in their holy book, and based on their unique interpretation of these verses they certain take action. These action causes the death and displacement of many so the society see these actions as evil.

The JWs read certain verses in their holy book, and based on their unique interpretations of these verses they take certain actions. These actions cause death and tearing apart of families, so some see these actions as evil.

MaxInDHouse:
The rules within a group is no EVIL to anyone outside the GROUP so whatever rules JWs are upholding within is not the business of anyone outside the GROUP as long as adherents aren't forced to abide by the rules!

Read about the Jonestown massacre of 1978 and you will understand why sometimes the activities of a religious organizations is the business of those outside the group. Over 900 deaths could have been avoided that fateful day (Nov 18, 1978).

MaxInDHouse:
Secondly if you're now talking about family breakups then you have to blame our Master, Lord and King (Jesus Christ) these are his own words:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance, against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household., He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake, shall find it" Matthew 10:34-39

Please blame this man for the breakups in the families as a result of FAITH, people who love him have a wonderful possession that's uncommon! 2Thessalonians 3:2

I said it earlier that you'll attempt to fling out verses to support the KILLINGS and HURTING of people.
Oga, it is not the verses that are the problem, but your unique interpretations of those verses.

For example: no bible portion says "dont subscribe to a blood transfusion". However, the Jws uniquely interpret som verses to outlaw blood transfusion. Remember, it was the same way they uniquely interpret verses to outlaw vaccination and organ transplant.

If anyone interprets verses in supposed holy books to foster tearing apart family, discourage medical care, etc that person is perpetrating evil.

MaxInDHouse:
Saying someone or a group is using the Bible to do evil is tantamount to saying "you are using God's name wrongly" that's what Boko Haram are fighting for!

Your reasoning eh! e tie wrapper

don't go through this mental gymnastics to defend wetin no follow. It is not right to use the bible or any other holy book to perpetrate evil. That is a VALID statement. You can then proceed with arguing that JWs do not use the bible to perpetrate evil.

It is your efforts to poke holes in that valid statement that is tantamount to saying Boko Harams are right. This is because the Boko Haram use verses in their holy book as support for their activities.
Remember, the statement is not "do not use the bible (or any other supposed holy book)". It is "do not use the bible (or any other supposed holy book) to do evil".

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever anyone is using the Bible to teach is no man's business unless they're KILLING or HURTING people.

You are right on this. However:
KILLING people: one can point to the number of persons that have actually died because of the JW's radical medical directives (from d days of outlawing organ transplant and vaccinations to these days of outlawing blood transfusion).
HURTING people: one can point to the number of families that have been strained and torn apart because of the JWs family invasive directives (from the days of outlawing pre-intimacy and MouthAction between husband and wives, to these days of having forcing members to completely shun disfellowshipped ones and see them as dead)

Yes, you'll be quick to fling out verses in the bible to support these KILLING AND HURTING of people. Yet you'll wonder why someone ask if it is proper to continue using the bible to do evil.

Pere all over White again, but white's cool personality shines

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly why Boko Haram are killing people up and down!
You're not supposed to tell people saying so and so person shouldn't use the Bible, that's my point. You can say "this or that person is wrong" then substantiate with reasoning but outrightly saying someone is not supposed to use the Bible is tantamount to standing in God's position!

MaxInDHouse... did you really read that post. Or you are here to simply just pick on a post (without reading through) and then throw attacks?

Is it not better they stop using the Bible to do evil

Is this statement the same as "is it not better to use the bible?"

You mustn't be a christian, any sane person, will agree that it is not right to use the bible (or any supposed holy book for that matter), to do evil.
What you should attack or defend is that you are not using the bible to do evil. Rather, you are attacking a straw man

EFULEFU1:
They will come here to vandalise me because I am exposing them

You really think you are exposing them?

You asked why JWs hate Jesus. It is the for same reason(s) you hate Mohammed, Krishna, etc.

The JW beliefs do not call for them to rever Jesus the way your beliefs do.
Remember, your beliefs also do not call for you to rever Mohammed the way the beliefs of some do.

At the end of the day, it comes down to ones beliefs.

many people will say "No, never marry an atheist". Reason? what value will the atheist partner teach your kids.
somehow, these people think a religious person = good values, and that an atheist = bad values.
Fact: values has nothing to do with your faith.

using the "values" narrative is simply coming from a pace of ignorance. Some religious persons can be embodiment of goodness while others can be just "trash", so it goes with atheist.

Going back to your question, can you marry an atheist?
I'll ask can you marry someone who prefers rice, if your preference is beans?

If you'll hate that your partner likes rice and not the beans that you like, do not marry a rice-person.
If you'll try to suppress your partner's like for rice, and force your like for beans, do not marry that person.
if you will see your partner as wrong for his/her rice preference, then do not marry that person

In the same vein,
if you will hate that your partner's unbelief, do not marry that person
if you will try to suppress your partner's unbelief and force your beliefs, do not marry that person.
if you will see your partner as wrong for his/her unbelief, do not marry that person.

If there's mutual respect for each other and each others' "beliefs", and you both create room for each other to express your beliefs/ unbelief, and no one represents his/her belief as superior and the others' as inferior... there is no reason why you two can't be a happy couple.

No, i'm not spewing theories. I talk from a place of experience. I have a happy home (Atheist + Christian); we've been married for 7 years; we have a lovely daughter. Yes, she knows very much about mummy's heavenly father called God. She also knows that Daddy does not believe there is a sky daddy.
she's just not taught that mummy is wrong or right, or that daddy is wrong or right. She understands that Daddy likes beans, and mummy likes rice, but it doesnt mean either of them wrong. She doesnt even like rice or beans, but prefer yam and eggs. Will the fact that her preference is different make her wrong/ foolish? No.

Bubu is bst graduating student of Cow Management

i laugh in swahili

these words mad o

Never enter an interview with fear

I'm still looking for the lost period. I've checked under the bed, it is not there?

MrOmor:
Cows will always trend in this country.

When Buhari studied Cow Management, what do you expect?
See where it is revealed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpi7O6sYYGs

Hahahaha... definitely the video of the year

Now I understand our Oga's affinity for cows

Really funny. Lolzzzz

The hardship no be here

You've clearly got it wrong. My Lord Jesus is neither ignorant nor stupid. Actually, He is the wisdom and power of God.

Sorry, I sincerely didn't mean to tear into your Lord and Saviour.
However:
If I do not know the season of oranges, and I am disappointed at not seeing a ripe orange fruit on an orange tree, then I am ignorant.
If I know the season of oranges, and i am disappointed at not seeing a ripe orange fruit on an orange tree when it is not the season of oranges, then i am a stupid person.
If I understand how orange seasons work, but i'm still vexed with the tree for not having a ripe orange fruit for me when off-season, and I order that it be chopped down, then I am abusing my powers.

A research online stated that fig trees generally go dormant and drop (or shed) their leaves when they are outside their season. But the fig tree in Mark 11 had lots of leaves, outside its season, giving a false impression (in short, deception) that there might be fruits on it, whereas there was none

Yes, fig trees shed leaves, like all trees do. However, this does not mean that trees are without leaves when off season. A simple look into fig tree life cycle (or that of any other tree for that matter) makes this clear.

This "having leaves = false impression" narrative is just a lame attempt to justify a jesus' action in that account. It's a case of "it is jesus, he cannot be wrong. If he cursed the tree, no matter how crazy it appears to us, he must be right".

Don't go into the "the tree tried to deceive jesus" narrative. It's laughable.

People (christians especially) relate this story of jesus cursing the fig tree as the prime example of there being power in words.

However, when i look at the story, i see something else. The lesson that jumps out to me is that jesus was either ignorant and stupid, or a power-drunk.
Jesus approached a fig tree and seeing that there were not fruits on it, he proceeded to curse the tree. the verse makes it clear that it was not the season for fruits. If jesus expected to see fruit in a fig tree when it is not the season for figs, then he was ignorant or stupid.
If he did know that it is not the season for figs, but still went ahead to curse the tree, then he is just a power drunk who abused his power.

Who else has watched this short video?
What's your take on this "power in spoken words" claim?

Do JWs teach "lies"?
No.

JWs call their belief "the truth". Does that make them the truth?
No.

Is there a contradiction here?
No

When looking at the beliefs of another group, the part of that group's beliefs that agree with yours, you will call truth; and the part of that group's beliefs that differ from yours, you will call lies. If you do not belief in a fiery hell, you'll not call the JW "hell" teaching lies; but if you believe in a fiery hell, you'll call the JW hell teaching "lies".

Thus, what one person will call JW lies are simply JW's beliefs that differ from that person' beliefs. Know that this will be different from person to person.
So in reality, OP, with the question of this thread, you are only looking at the JWs teachings with your own unique teachings. It's a case of unique teachings and interpretations against unique teachings and interpretations.

I reserve my comment

Adult Babies are all over d place

....this is definitely for d laughs

...chai. lady meets the wrong person

Sonnobax15:

Na wa oh

Na big wa.....

where are those legends.

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eomajeh:
e choke.

so since she has been calling you Baboon or is it Oloriburuku

yes o

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The JWs responding here unashamedly say suicide bombing is no different from their position of laying down their lives instead of taking a blood transfusion.


At least we now understand why the Russian Govt is taking action against the JW.
Just as any sane govt will do all it can to stop a suicide bomber from unleashing its terror on others, in Russia, a govt is simply seeking to protect its citizens, even if it is from themselves.

However, whether the way the govt is going about it is right is another discussion entirely

MaxInDHouse:
Of course they are.
Perhaps you don't know that God sees their hearts and knew that they surely died with faith that there's a God that will reward them!

Well know today that without such kind of fearless faith you can never please the true God! Hebrews 11:6

Paul was ready to lay down his life both when he was killing Christians and when he himself became a Christian. How do you think Stephen who prayed for Paul while been killed by Paul {Act 7:57-60} will feel when he finally see the same Paul at Jesus' feet in heaven?

They will both rejoice that they're both of the same sort only misinformation that set them against each other. They were both people of FAITH! 2Thessalonians 3:2

wow! here's someone who rationalizes suicide bombings!

should you really sink this low to defend your radical position?

.... Oga at the top is now the butt of jokes everywhere

in the mean time, Oga at the Top don japa

e choke.

so since she has been calling you Baboon or is it Oloriburuku

dappa71:
I’ve told you already that your beer parlor conspiracies have no hold on Jehovah‘s Witnesses. Proverbs 14:15

So we are not faithless people unlike many people today, we know if we lose our lives obeying Jehovah’s command, he will favour us with a resurrection in the new world. John 12:25, Acts 24:15
That’s the reason why we stand firmly on Acts 15:29. No leave, no transfer!

You're very right that It is very brave to be ready to face death for a cause.

That will mean that the about 900 Jonestown victims who died that fateful day should be celebrated as not being faithless. they did what whatever god they reverenced wanted, knowing that the god will bless them later.
The suicide bombers around the world should be celebrated as not being faithless. they are doing what their god wants, knowing that the god will bless them later.

Remain faithful sir/ madam