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Leyqute:
100% agree. But you know there are several moving variables.

The same Conte that won the league in Italy with Napoli and Chelsea in England was sacked by Tottenham without winning a spoon.

Like you said, there are levels to this stuff.

Please remind me why they sacked Conte at Tottenham again

Trevor012:
700million in 3 seasons na paracetamol lmao. Klopp spent ten years at Liverpool and his total spending was 900million. Una nor really dey think sha. Na United board wey dey pamper managers with too much money I blame.

One of the players that was bought is Bruno who your grandma is better than. You no wise like that

odizeey:
So Conte need players to compete?

Thought he would do with what he has

The story never clear sha

Conte brought in 8 new players? Easy with the lies on Conte o. He doesn't need new players to fix a team please

Jamiuokolaa:
The "Committed" Ragnick wanted to combine the consultancy role at Man utd with the Austrian Job and rightly had to leave. Besides, nothing on his CV suggests that he would have become the "messiah" you are trying to portray him as...

The point here still remains - if we are blaming players/recruitment as the issue plaguing the club for years, it means we should have even stuck with the useless Moyes and probably other coaches that followed while trying to address the problem.

You cant be saying it's a player/recruitment thing and still found cursing previous managers who "suffered" under the same recruitment palava that you are attempting to use as an excuse for Amorim's woeful performance at the club

It is impossible to combine both roles or you're just looking for talk? Consultant o, not full time employment. I don't even think consultancy was initially what was agreed but for argument sake.

For the last time, ETH was part of what you're referring to as the player/recruitment thing. He demanded and took over that role himself. He can't be excused.

Oasis007:


......una dey try sha. They won't listen and understand, no matter the explanations. They are one-way traffic - sack Amorim, hire a new Manager and the Club will start winning trophies left and right. LOL!

Omo me sef don tire

Jamiuokolaa:
If the purported root cause of the club woes is "bad recruitment over the years", how can you turn around to blame a manager that "became aware" of this issue and decided to take control of his destiny by targeting players he has worked with in the past?

Its not ETH's fault, Ole's fault and even Moyes fault then!

#Theyshouldhavestayed

Couldn't he demand the right people to be in place before taking the job? We had Ragnick, who was shouting from the rooftop about how bad it was, but ETH came in and said he didn't want him around. He didn't want someone questioning his transfer targets. You can't rewrite history

Jamiuokolaa:
He did his best under those circumstances so he can't be faulted.

According to you, the recruitment has been rubbish even before he joined so you cant blame him for taking his destiny into his hands

Are we talking about the same person who demanded full responsibility for players' recruitment?

Jamiuokolaa:
It's not dancing around - its being consistent

If we are saying the managers are not the problem and it's the players, then ETH even gets the most pass because he literally had to combine other people's job (recruitment) with his own.

If the player recruiters were doing their job well, ETH wouldn't have taken recruitment upon himself.

So ETH instead of doing the right thing decided to do the recruitment himself and failed, then landed us in a much hotter mess is who you're being consistent about?

Jamiuokolaa:
It wasn't ETH's fault - he isn't a recruiter

It is the fault of those that failed to recruit the right players and thats why ETH had to be doing their job

Since we are now in the mode of "manager isn't to blame"...let's keep up the same energy

No we are not in that mode. I'm not interested in dancing around. It's not productive

Jamiuokolaa:
But you agreed ETH should have been sacked yet you say the managers are not the problem

I am confused

ETH who spent one full year pursuing his former players and even sanctioned that ridiculous Mount deal? Please

Jamiuokolaa:
So i ask again, if you could go back in time, would you have retained Moyes since it has been "proven" that he wasnt the problem?

I don't need to go back in time. I'll grab Sean Dyche today if its possible

Jamiuokolaa:
Okay so what is this "problem staring us in the face"?

We have mentioned it here many times

Leyqute:
Before ETH, Ole finished 2nd and remains the only manager to have consecutive top 4 finishes. Before him was Mourinho, who performed even better, I’d say.

Hindsight is 2020, but the fact remains:

Man United’s continuous drop over the years whilst firing managers is evidence enough that the problem is not managers alone.

The club needs to create the right atmosphere for anyone coming in, players included. Let them do their job and give them the best equipments and atmosphere to do it.

The quality of the team has been dropping every year until last year where we had a good transfer window with the purchase of Maz, Delight, Yoro, and Heaven. I'm not convinced on Ugarte yet but he could still come good. Our major problem is our inability to score goals which is affecting the other areas of the team. We need at least 2-3 immediate starters there. Then midfield and WB can do with some new additions.

Jamiuokolaa:
Does it mean the club shouldn't have sacked ETH?

No it doesn't mean that

Leyqute:
Rinse and repeat.

Some still believe the problem is 3 at the back when we’ve been woeful wirh 4 defenders as well.

It was very obvious that we were heading in this direction since two years ago

Bombblacks:
None of our previous managers finished in 16th, none of our previous managers had 12losses in 25league games, none of our previous managers finished below 8th even with lesser players.

Our previous managers were finishing top 2 and even top 4 which was the bare minimum. This is our worst league finish in 50years. Keep on ignoring the problem staring at your face.

The last manager before Amorim finished top 4, then 8, then was sacked at 12 or so. You notice the progress right? Yeah keep on ignoring the problem staring at your face

patrickmuf:
Finally, I can see the back of this torrid season...

Whatever the club does, we should go after players who are confident in tight spaces and do not treat a football like a bomb. We need to sign at least 3 technicians who can also put in the work.

Our play is just too lethargic, it's a shame that several managers after, our players still don't approach a game with the intensity modern football demands. Check all the successful teams of recent years; they play with a good level of intensity, and they cover a lot of ground.

Let them continue to change managers and not fix the real issues, na here we go dey

patrickmuf:
My biggest fear.

Normally, whether we win or not there should be a clear direction for the club for next season. Drastic actions needs to be taken after this kind of season.

So what next for the club and the transfer window?

Leyqute:
It’s over jare. I don’t think these guys have enough bite or conviction to score 2.

There's still plenty to play for

Leyqute:
Poor, low-quality final. United have more possession and control but most of it is timid and they’ve hardly troubled their opponent. Spurs look more lethal when they have the ball.

That's how the team has been playing for some time now in the league na

odizeey:
I hope he reaches that height he's supposed to.

I'm happy for him. He should keep it up

Jamiuokolaa:
If Amorim's woeful performance is now the standard, issue dey o

If Sean Dyche fails trevor grandma is on standby. No worry

Gucciboy:
Don't let Antonio conte hear you. Chelsea and inter Milan have won league titles with 343 formation.

I don hear o

Trevor012:
At least sean dyche won't have us in 16th position like your fraud. Thunder will fire you

Tell your grandma to warm up o

odizeey:
Greenwood is on joint top scorer in ligue 1

He's doing well.

It was this morning I saw this update. I didn't even know he was doing this well

Jamiuokolaa:
Him being used as an analogy is to buttress how poorly Amorim has performed so far..nothing else

Abeg make una die this Sean Dyche matter o before it becomes a reality

It can't be worse than Amorim na . I don't see the issue o

larride:
3-4-3 is never the problem.

It's just not a worthy formation for a big club like Manchester United. If we had been playing 442 like Sean Dyche the new darling said, we would have been in top 6.

maik99:
The squad is not relegation standard
The Chelsea team we played yesterday is not head and shoulders above our team

Did it look like they were head and shoulders above us yesterday?

everton4life:
Newcastle won it

Yeah I remember now. Against LFC

everton4life:
Nope, that was united.



2017
Premier league: Chelsea

FA cup: Arsenal

Carling cup: United

Europa league: United

I meant this year