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weedtaker:
False, Stones was an exceptional “Ball Playing cb” his defensive game though was average at best and he was rightfully dropped.. and was labeled a flop then..

Man ironed his deficiencies and fought his way up the pecking order, He earned it.

No shortcut like “because he was the most expensive CB, he must play”

Shaw’s story is similar to John stones, Fvcking Brendan Williams was keeping him out of the team, he had to rediscover himself and work his way back to the starting XI.

Maguire on the hand has played the most minutes of any outfield player in the league since making his debut.

If he plays nonsense, he starts.

his hand is broken, he starts.

he just came out from prison, he starts.

Pray tell.. how’s Maguire’s case similar to that of stones and Shaw? He’s very much similar to LVG’s “My captain must play” Wayne Rooney.

With John stones you know he can play with ball at his feet. even then people were still not convinced with his defensive side of the game and it showed on his first season with Man city.

Shaw was a speed star and even earned himself a place in the PL team of the season playing for Southampton.

Maguire isn’t known to be a genius ball playing Cb that was just a narrative the press and propaganda created and millions swallowed it,

he only knew how to move with the ball and was dominant in air, that’s what he was good at, and we are seeing it here in Man United.

defensively he’s average, people always say he’s good defensively but that’s just to make themselves feel good about the 80millions.

He’s average and the fee we paid for him is comedy level.

He’s 26-27.. what you are seeing now is his prime.

Stones was exceptional what? After one season? If he wasn't English, we won't even be hearing his name like that. Please there was nothing exceptional about Stones.

At bold, those two statements contradict themselves. How are you comfortable with the ball and can move with it and play passes without being a very good ball playing CB? What's there to do again?

weedtaker:
Ruben Dias giving me Nemanja Vidić vibes.


Stones turnaround is unreal similar to Luke Shaw’s.

The same way you can't see Maguire qualities was how Stones was being abused back then. Luke Shaw faced similar thing. Keep at it, you will sing something else tomorrow

weedtaker:
look at Thiago Silva at Chelsea, despite his age. You just know straight up that he is quality. No talk of needing a fast CB partner or wingbacks overlapping.

He came in and took command, no time for shalaye

Took command of what? Were they not shipping goals until a new manager was brought in to improve the defense, playing a 3 man defense with 2 DM?

These English commentators are hilarious. They never fail to mention Stones when talking about City's defense. It's almost like they're trying to market him or something

KingAlabi:
Not confident, but I want us to beat them.

OK

Oasis007:
4 goals Difference? Our fringe Players should be able to hold out nau.

Until it happens and we're back to abusing Ole and the players here

KingAlabi:
Have we conceded 4 goals away this season?

I have watched football too long to know nothing is impossible

KingAlabi:
Making sure Liverpool end up in the Europa league.

And you're so confident that we're going to beat them?

KingAlabi:
Against Liverpool?

And when he has a 4 goals lead against Roma?

Of what importance is this match?

Oasis007:
Maybe Ole sees the second Leg as a Walkover, and an opportunity to play fringe players.

We should be very careful there sha. It's not over as far as I'm concerned

Oasis007:
Lineup

I expected Ole to rest some of these players for the return leg against Roma

Mrviktor:
He can work on his long range passing.
That's the only area he lacks.

He's too safe like cleverly..

He needs to make himself available more to receive the ball from deep too

SyIvalord:
Afrodoc2, we have always complained that Fred and Mctominay are poor at progressive passing and we want them to be replaced by Ndidi or Bissouma. But the graph below shows that we may be mistaken? What do you think about this?

Fred and McTominay may not be good enough, but the graph shows that Bissouma or Ndidi may not be the answer.

Agenda

KingAlabi:
I didn't say he does it often na.

I rest my case jare.

I'm saying you should check again na. More than few went to the stands. Meanwhile the other players don't have any ball going to the stand

KingAlabi:
Fews that went to the stands, some to the opponent and one assist in an FA QF.

Lmao what's this? Only few went to the stands? Should be more than that

KingAlabi:
I didn't say he isn't good at passing, but when he misses a pass, it hardly ever ends well, don't get defensive jare.

How many of those misses that hardly ever end well can you remember that off the top of your head?

Leyqute:
I don’t. I blame him for his gaffes, it’s just that they are fatal and glaring. No professional footballer should be making those types of mistakes that often.

His teammates don’t trust him with the ball in certain circumstances. They hesitate before they pass to him, cept for Cavani and Greenwood.

Tell me how that isn’t a baggage on the team.

He makes those type of mistakes often? Lol nothing do you

His teammates doesn't trust him with the ball, yet he has one of the highest touches every match day. Is he stealing the ball off their legs or what?

KingAlabi:
The issue is that **1 out of every 27 passes Fred misses, that pass can be very frustrating, it either he gives an assist or passes to someone in the stands.

All in all, Fred na important part of our team jare.

Yet his pass accuracy is one of the best in the team? Another Fred dey the team?

Leyqute:
Took the words right out of my mouth.

Eph12

I wasn't trying to convince you. You already blame him for everything

chidexxy007:
Big Myth.

How did the attack/team score over 105 goals already this season?

For now they're the easy target whenever the team is not playing well. Bruno gives a wrong hurried pass, it's McFred that's limiting the attack. Rashford or Greenwood runs into traffic, McFred is limiting the attack. Pogba is dispossessed, McFred is limiting the attack.

People complain that Fred can't pass, or passes backward or sideways every time. I would say they don't watch our game but come to NL to read comments and make their own conclusion. Fred that's always wanting to move the ball forward. The only issue I have with Fred is that he allows himself to be beaten too easily. But if it's pass, he does well for the team by moving the ball forward every time, unless there's no option there

Oasis007:


Dem dey vomit am?...... LMFAO!

We dey force the vomit out that year so we can drink more

nitrogen:


E don be for this thread. Una don enter one chance!

I just dey scroll pass fast

BikeMan:
Oh yayyyy! You won the 7th team in Italy, you should easily dispatch Madrid.

You want us to do your work for you?

elampiro:
People don't see how much Fred and McTominay are doing in that midfield which helps the defence and allows our forwards to focus on attack

Pogba on free role because of those two. People that don't know ball. If you're not now scoring, no matter what you do, you're probably not good enough

elampiro:
Don't mind them. The agenda people no know ball.

Illimitable has been limited tonight.

Bars

BARAJ92:
You expect him to start Van de beek that has not prove himself to be worthy. Ole does not trust Mcfred that much, hence both of them were duly bench throughout end of last season when they could have added fresh leg, even at the beginning of this season, both of them were bench. It was only after the bad start to the season, he gave them the opportunity and since then our result improve.

Nope it wasn't that Ole didn't trust them much. People suggested/insisted that he doesn't need them and they were not good enough. It wasn't until he almost lost out on everything before he got his sense back. If he follow some of our mouth here, we will be in a much worse situation by now

Oasis007:


How una dey drink more than a Bottle of Beer sef. Where una dey store am for Body?

Vomit?

GloryIsaac:
True, but it’s better winning from the onset rather than the usual comebacks.

Roma got overconfident and began playing a high line after scoring lucky goals.

People never learn lol

chrisley024:
Nah! it's done. My concern is them bottling it in the final

But that will still be progress na

CapitalCee:
Which kain calm down, this Roma team is rubbish, being flogged by the likes of Cagliari and co. Play that kind of first versus a decent team and there wont be a way back.

We were not bad in the first half. Roma scored from their only 2 chances I think. They didn't even trouble DDG in both half except the goals

BikeMan:
Weedtaker said his team can beat all the UCL semifinalists. Mumu scummy. Beat the 7th place in the Serie A at Old Trafford first.

You be pig? You just dey enter mud anyhow my guy

Illimitable:
2 away goals is no pressure?

Nope because we can easily score our own 2 away goals