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kokaneprodigy:
Wait let me ask Ifa.

Ask spy360 instead. He get firsthand info

CapitalCee:
Dont mind him.That Europa League that MKHITARYAN beasted. Newly promoted Rashford scored winners in Quaterfinals and Semifinals. MATA and Mkhi did the job on Rostov. Ibrahimovic put St ettiene to the sword. And beasted the group stage. Pogba only scored that futitious goal in the final mkhi settled it. So tell me how pogba gave us Europa

Lol be calming down

SyIvalord:
Lol. Are you pulling my legs or something? What did Pogba do enroute our Europa league win that is worth remembering? Or is it because he was juggling ball over the head of Celta Vigo players?

He beast/scored in the final?

KingAlabi:
That means I don't fancy him

No be say Lindelof good sha

Oh

GloryIsaac:
Solskjær: "We have lost a couple [of players to injury], so that is Bailly and Lingard who also didn’t travel."

Lmao this Bailly na scammer

Expert17:
89M player?

Europa league only

No Maguire, no Bailly

SyIvalord:
If Bruno leaves Man United today, he will be remembered for saving our season and dragging us to a top 3 finish last season.

If Pogba leaves Man United today, what will he be remembered for?

Europa league?

patrickmuf:
I also thought CB was a priority position so when I see people mention here that we have over 6 CBs, I just laugh...Apart from Maguand Lindelof, I don't trust any other option we have at CB not for their playing abilities but their ability to stay fit.

No Maguire, Bailly, Greenwood and to a lesser extent Cavani (understandable)...Tuanzebe - Lindelof - Shaw...SMOG!

When we say we have 6 CB, it doesn't mean they're all good. It just means that we need to get some of them out of the club

afrodoc2:
Cavani training with the boys.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4jHfRFAK1w

Even for training Fred dey bè

Nezzjnr:
� #mufc travelling squad to face PSG: de Gea, Henderson, Wan-Bissaka, Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe, Lindelöf, Shaw, Telles, Williams, Pogba, McTominay, Bruno, Fred, Matić, van de Beek, Pellistri, James, Mata, Rashford, Martial and Ighalo. #udlatest [MEN]

Baily didn't travel? Na wa o

KingAlabi:
I don't know, is he ?

You didn't include him in your lineup

GloryIsaac:
Fred is the most energetic midfielder we have apart from Bruno. Matic can sit there, but will he be able to curtail the highly-mobile PSG midfield?

Pogba fits in on the left-side of the midfield, and he has to work. It's high time things stop getting switched just to find a way to accommodate him.

It's either Pogba or Fred for that position. We have to choose one.

GloryIsaac:
Afrodoc's 3-5-2 is the best on paper for the PSG match.

Telles isn't that good defensively, so using him in a 4-2-3-1 formation against Mbappe isn't advisable.

It's better having Rashford and Martial upfront, while Telles and AWB play as the wing-backs. Most attacks will come from Telles, while Bruno roams as the play-maker, Pogba plays as the Box-to-Box midfielder and Fred hassles the central PSG attackers always.

Fred can't sit there o, especially beside Pogba. Na disaster

KingAlabi:
Who go start for us against PSG

If ole were to play his desired 4231
I hope to see

Henderson(I am being biased )

Bissaka.........lindelof......Maguire.....telles

.......... Fred.......VDB
Bruno......

Greenwood......Cavani ..........black Ronaldo

Is baily injured?

odizeey:
After all he long sentences. I'm waiting for this answer.

Lmao this thing be like film trick. Just imagine the long sentences to say what I just said in one line

I remember us discussing our starting eleven when football resumed in June. Most wanted Pogba straight into the starting 11 which I was against. Though I acknowledge that he's one of the most talented in the squad, talent is just not enough. Unless we play a 352 or 433, Pogba can't fit into this team. He will give us a couple of good runs, but as long as he plays from deep without very mobile and aggressive DM and defenders, he will always put the team under pressure. In fact the Fred we're accusing of putting the team under pressure, he hasn't done half of Pogba's

timay:
Oga make Una dead this fallacies of OGS giving players new contract because it's a lie. The only "Fringe players " OGS gave new contract is Mata (2yrs) and recently Matic (3yrs). The likes of Lingard and Jones were not his doing, abeg let us stop pedling this nonsense lies, and continue recycling it, thinking if you repeat it long enough it will become true. That shit started as a banter, and now because it's been around long enough, some people are now looking at it as being true.

Phil Jones especially was given a new contract in February 2019, barely over a month when Ole came and was an interim coach. Contract negotiation does not happen in a month it would have been going on wey before then, meaning OGS was definitely not responsible for that. As an interim manager, he has no power to do such when you don't know if they will permanent your deal.
So please let's stop this nonsense narrative. It has been circulated for long and people with short memory are now seeing it as being true

So he offered some fringe players new contracts?

Starkizito:
Ole doesn't rate ighalo or it was a tactical set-up.

Why didn't he start him against NEW.

Ighalo will be gone by January.

TrebleChamp:
So you believe United will offer Pogba a new improved contract with his disaster class performance, or Pogba will accept a paycut to sign a new contract? You guys are very funny walahi. Even as stupid as OGS seem, he won't make such mistake. Pogba will either leave if any club want him or leave on a free in 2022.

Uhm was it not OGS that gave some of these fringe players new contracts?

nitrogen:
My issue with Utd fans. I just dont know why we like doing this. It's not fair!

It's really unfortunate. We should be able to differentiate between the roles of our players on the pitch. In that Fred role, we need an energetic somebody that can keep the ball simple and running, and keep up with the opponent pace. If Pogba is able to do this, we won't be having problems in our team at all, especially against smaller teams.

Joezinho:
You score an own goal and you give away stupid free kicks it's the manager's fault.

See narratives. Una for tell man utd players not to spread yansh na ..

You all can now come outta your she'll and spew trash as usual. We still have ole to deal with but nope.. Let's discuss mou.

Na you still carry mou talk come o

Lmao Mourinho drew this game? Defense has gone to the dogs. We don't have defenders anymore

Leyqute:
Apart from that Jogba is freaking slow and sluggish. And have you seen the sheer number of passes he has been misplacing?

That's not the usual Pogba. He's off form, doesn't mean he can't recover

afrodoc2:
We don't play those formations. We play a 4-2-3-1. Unless you want us to switch formations just for him when he is on the field. And as a midfielder the roles often overlap. He is the only midfielder i know of that must play in exactly a kind of role or else he can't perform.

Let me tell you the truth about Pogba. In all those teams you mentioned he was not the best player or the most important player but just part of a system that worked. That is the secret to "unlocking" him at Man Utd.

We initially made the mistake of building the team around him and making him the main man rather than just buying good midfielders and slotting him in to play a role. He is not built for that. Make him a system player like at Juve and France and you will see the best out of him.

I agree with this. The team can't be built around him. I think they were trying to build the team around him because of how much he was bought. That was a mistake.

Meanwhile, I have always hated that 4231 formation even in my FM days

afrodoc2:
You brought up the details so please you can tell me who was 10 in those teams.

You stated that he has never played 10, meanwhile I never mentioned anything about 10. I checked up where he has been most effective and I realized the pattern.

afrodoc2:
Pogba was not a 10 as a youth player, he wasn’t a 10 in Juve, he does not play as a 10 for France.

When he was used as a 10 for a short period under JM he struggled to get involved in games and people said he had to be played in a deeper role so that he can influence games.

Now you are saying he should be moved back again to 10?

In Juve, he had Marchiso and Vidal playing beside him in the midfield or Marchiso and Khedira in midfield beside him. In the world cup winning squad, he had Kante and Matuidi. Who was the 10 among these players?

CapitalCee:
Teams have figured him out, he is poor defensively do teams just load that his position with balls, giving him more defensive work to do, he is now more concerned about his defensive duties now. With VVD getting injured now, he will be on a long thing. TAA has been on my fantasy team, he has consistently disappointed me. I will sell him eventually

Even his set peices are off. At this point, he doesn't offer much defensively or offensively

CapitalCee:
Which role is Jogba suited for? He has been played in every single midfield position, snd with several midfielders, some bought specifically for him, in all he failed to do anything significant. All the midfielders we signed could not unlock Pogba, his mates like Mata, Bruno, Mctoms, Herrera etc excel in different midfield positions. Yesterday Bruno went to the Left wing immediately James went out and pogba and VDB entered and had a hand in all 3 goals scored after that, Mata played from the right too and excelled. But for Jogba we are still looking for the best position for him since 4 years now, he is 27 now and doesn't want to have sense. Even Havertz and Mount that are much younger than him have been played in variety of midfield positions by Lampard and still excel, but for the foo.l we still need to use almighty formula and schrodinger equation to figure out the best position to play him and best players to unlock him with. If not that Ole is another I.diot on his own right, that Virus would have been booted out long ago. V

Pogba will be much better with less defensive work. Two solid CDM behind him will bring out the best in him. He shouldn't be playing from deep unless the team is playing defensive football

olabode89:
The inability to play line breaking passes by some of our midfielders is why we have difficulty with breaking down teams. True, Fred provides energy in the midfield but he over commits when trying to intersect passes and he usually comes up short thereby needed much time to recover and putting more pressure on the team.

If he does not improve of these aspects of his game he should be phased out of the team.

Stats should never be the main factor when accessing a player, you mentioned that he was dribbled twice. Why dribble him when he will over extend while trying to cut out a pass but fail to do so thereby falling out of position.

Lindelof, Tom, Fred, Mata, AWB and Bruno were all dribbled. Is it only Fred that's putting pressure on the team or all these ones too? Same Fred that has more recoveries and successful tackles is who you're saying "over extend and fail to cut out a pass"?

He has been phased out already sef. We should get used to our snail midfield.

olabode89:
This is one of the drawbacks of judging a players performance by stats alone. Fred had an okay game but most of his passes were sideways and non-line breaking passes. Most of the time he tried a line breaking pass it was misplaced.

Did you not see how poor his shots were? Did you also not see how he is always over committing himself when tackling thereby making it easy for opponents to glide pass him. He needs to improve his passing range if he wants to last at United.

Fred job is to keep the ball moving. He's not going to give you goals or through balls. What he's going to give you is the energy to keep our midfield on top. I can point to many other midfielders in that role in other top teams. He made a total of 3 shots of which 2 were off targets. Should we look at how many of Bruno's shots were off targets? Before that particular Fred shot, Bruno just hit a shot very high but you didn't say anything. The moment Fred hit his own off target, lamentations started.

Hopefully very soon, you all will appreciate that energy in the midfield. Someone that is available to hassle opponents and try to cut them off. He was dribbled a total of 2 times, Tom once. But you're saying it like he was beaten throughout the game while Tom was winning the balls back. Go and check their ball recovery stats.

I hope OGS puts Fred on the bench till the end of the season so that we can lament over a slow midfield that can't keep up with the opponent pace.

By the way, looks like something is wrong with Arnold at LFC. We don't see all those spam crosses again. He's taken more defensive role. In fact it was Henderson I was seeing down that wing most of the time