₦airaland Forum

mira4u:
I thought they were all shouting 'we want CHANGE'. Oya now, see the change. Nigerians always attaching sentiment to politics, instead of truth, fairness and transparency. Smh

Nigerians are quite sentimental agreed, but concerning the bolded you surely can't be implying that Jonathan stood for "truth, fairness and transparency"
If he did, he would definitely still be the president today

voltron:
Guvnooor Abmode in his Clubbing attire returning from club 57 or Cave after a hard-days job at work Omo Jaiye jaiye

lmao!! "wicked" comment

donhils:
Do you know you shouldn't be talking mainly about mtn breaking rules. If you are given a stone to throw first if you haven't ever broken any rule before, would you? Have you kept all the comments of God? Cos to me you don't seem to have kept the part that says love your neighbor as thyself.

In that case we shouldn't even bother having rules at all since no human can keep God's commandments.
Any company can do whatever it likes however it likes whenever it likes with no repercussion.
Great. Absolutely great.

mbulela:
you did not follow my argument.
My views on the fine is well documented here.
I am simply addressing the hate for MTN being justified because of xenophobic attacks in SA.

The fine is justified because they broke the rule and not for any other reason.

My point about the xenophobic attacks is that Nigerians should not be sympathetic or emotional about this fine because if South African were in Nigeria's shoes, they would not. Let us all stick by the rules. Eod.

donhils:
In that case, you don't know how it all started. Former President, Olusegun Obasanjo literally begged Vodacom to come and do business in Nigeria and they told him straight to his face that Nigeria couldn't afford telephone. He met other companies also and they declined. MTN agreed to do what others considered impossible and did it. After they had succeeded and reported huge profits (good or bad) others started coming. So to me, they came to help. That's why I so much love MTN's latest advert on TV ( when they said it was impossible we were there, when no one gave them a chance we were there.......and finally they wrapped it up by saying at MTN we believe that Nigeria's future holds even more promise than our past). My God, that is love for Nigeria.

So has MTN been giving subscribers free calls, data and text? NO
Has MTN been making money for as long as they've been in Nigeria? YES

MTN would never have come to Nigeria or even stayed after they did if they wouldn't make SIGNIFICANT PROFIT. It is a business and the purpose is to make profit, any other reason is by the side. Companies have existed and done business in worse terrains as long as they are making a profit so please MTN did not help anyone.

The Advertising manager must be doing a great job for their adverts to appeal to emotions but advert or no advert, MTN is a profit-making venture which flouted rules it was aware of, basically showing disdain for its host country and that should not be tolerated.

MYMINDER:
Make points with logic and not emotion.

Was the fine computation known before now to all telecommunications providers? Yes! Did MTN violate? Yes! Should MTN pay the fine (that the penalty was known way in advance of transgression?) Yes!

SA did not approve any license for any Nigerian bank. Is that not Draconian? Nigerian banks moved on and life continued.

The 5.2m active subscribers that had unregistered sim cards on the MTN network is too much!

Thank you. I don't under the sentimentalism being displayed on this thread. MTN should PAY UP. End of story. If they had not broken the rules which as you rightly pointed out they KNEW IN ADVANCE no one would be hounding them.
Era of companies doing what they like in Nigeria and getting away with it has to end.

mbulela:
How is this related to the issue at hand?
I struggle to understand the hatred for MTN.
What have they done to attract this hatred?

And what does a fine have to do with hatred for MTN? They broke the rules, they should pay up. Simple!
After all if they had kept the rules no one would be breathing down their neck.

oribi:
YOUR INTELLIGENT AND I APPRECIATE YOU

Thank you. I see your point and appreciate your views even if different from mine.

oribi:
BECAUSE NCC SAID SO?

Yes.
If you have any other information we the public don't know, please disclose.

oribi:
YES IT IS A BUSINESS AGREED BUT AT LEAST THEY EMPLOY NIGERIANS AND PUT MEAL ON MANY TABLES IN NIGERIA

I understand where you are coming from but this short term approach never ever pays in the long run. If we continue using the excuse of they employ Nigerians so therefore let them get away with what they like, the nation will NOT progress. Although it is painful, this just has to be done and in the long term is in the best interest of the country.

oribi:
I FEEL FOR MTN NOT BECAUSE I HAVE AN AFFILIATION WITH MTN BUT BECAUSE NCC IS BIASED AND THAT FINE IS OUTRAGEOUS.[b]SO ONLY MTN NIGERIA VIOLATED THE LAW?[/b]IF MTN HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING FOR NIGERIA AT LEAST NIGERIANS ARE EMPLOYED BY MTN

Yes. It was ONLY MTN that violated the law. Other telecomms companies had deactivated the sim cards as they should have done.

kingviny:
S/HE who laffs when a stranger is being frustrated in his country should not cry when same fate befalls his/her relations abroad.

Who will fine PHCN for poor power supply ?

who will fine NNPC for oil importation rackets ?

who will fine Dangote Cement for not complying to the FG's directive to reduce cement cost ?

who will fine the oil marketers who constantly cause fuel scarcity thereby causing hardship on Nigeria ?

who will fine the President for failled promises and for failling to constitute his cabinet asap when the new Canadian PM did his
within the week he took oath of office thereby hitting the ground running on policy formulation and execution.

e.t.c

Even if MTN had violated your rules should you use a sledge hammer to kill a mouse? N1trillion! for a socially responsible company like MTN is too much. It will kill that company and it will also send wrong signals with respect to FDI. N100 Billion max is still ok to effect your corrective punishment without hurting the economic eco-system of that telecom giant!

When they decide to sack half of their Nigerian employees and they automate their jobs ( this is technology age ) what do you think would happen to the families that would be affected? so much for tackling un-employment! now, influx to the labour market will increase. At worst, MTN share holders would loose some monies but for Nigerian families connected to MTN, they would loose their means of livelihood.

NIGERIA ... THINK!

So for the sake of a few, we should give MTN a pass right?
I don't understand this sympathy towards MTN, when South Africans were attacking Nigerians barely how many months ago, did South Africans show any sympathy to Nigeria?

Please let us stick to the game. MTN broke the rules and should pay the price end of story.

donhils:
Since the announcement of this fine on MTN, many Nigerians have rejoiced and danced over it. But set prejudice aside, what wrong has MTN really done to anybody? I'll answer that, None. MTN is and will still remain the all round best network provider here in Nigeria until Glo that is supposed to be the leader (having that indigenous edge) steps up to the responsibility. So why all the hates? Let's talk about NCC for a bit, what exactly were they thinking slamming such huge amounts on a company that's here to help? Has NCC lived up to its responsibilities? All networks being nuisance to the customers thru unsolicited texts and calls, stealing from the unsuspecting public. Have they moved to stop all these nonsense? What is NCC doing to improve the quality of services? Have they looked into the exorbitant rates of data in the industry? What have they done to better the lives of Nigerians? After MTN have paid 1.4trillion, then what next? What is the spirit behind this fine? And Nigeirans are rejoicing.

MTN is not here to help anyone, they are here to make money simple.
Other points you made I agree with, particularly the quality of service and rates.

DelGardo:
The vice president of Nigeria is traditionally in charge of the economy.

The economy under Jonathan was in tatters because Jona had no clue and Sambo was a ghost worker.

Osinbajo, on the other hand, seems to have a good grip on things. Long may it continue.

Change is here.

Hahahaha

wunmi2odun:
Come oo... How come it was 4 months from the start and then you got fired again in another 2 months after you said you worked 4 months I smell lies

Make una sha dey lie small small

He said he got the job about 4 months ago, so for example start of July 2015
He lost it two months later i.e. end of August

He has gotten a new job now, meaning he was out of a job for about 2 months plus: Sept, and October.

So what exactly is not believable about this?

Gumsu Abacha = Daughter of a big time thief and evil man

IzonOwei:
THE BOLDED IS WRONG...I HOPE YOU DO KNOW THE COMMUNITIES CAN MAKE SHELL RUN FOR THERE MONEY...I GUESS YOURE NOT A NIGER DELTAN TO MAKE SUCH BOLDED STATEMENT...

I GOT AN INFORMATION BRO...AND I AM NOT CONSOLING MYSELF...I ONLY CAN MAKE LIFE MISERABLE FOR SHELL IN BAYELSA FROM MY COMMUNITY THATS ALL..SO CAN YOU STOP BLABBING??...

If you make life miserable for Shell and they pack up and leave, who loses at the end of the day? Both the company and the community will lose, so don't make it seem like it is just the company that will lose.

HopeAtHand:
I know of some SWesterners that were employed by Shell last week.i agree we are all Nigerians but those of us from oil bearing communities feel the brunt whenever their is fault with their pipelines or instruments and should be duly employed. This biased recruitment trend doesnt seem like it will abate soon..

Very pathetic.

It doesn't work that way.
I believe a number of the IOCs have quotas for the South South region already, to call their recruitment biased simply because they employed "SWesterners" is wrong. At the end of the day, it is all about getting qualified hands who will deliver results and if the qualified hand happens to be a non-South South person then why not? Merit should trump tribalism. Plus as I mentioned already, there are quotas in place.

Is there anyone left not corrupt in Nigeria?!

demandtruth:
have you suddenly become a wailer?

Ambode is the governor; deal with that ooooo
he's not the police.

all these are as a result of the thugs used by pdp that have now
become redundant; opc inclusive

Ambode is not the police but it is his JOB to ensure security of lives and properties in the state he governs!

Can Ambode wake up already?! Which kind of olodo governor is this for goodness sake

Space bookers, where art thou?!

Do most people do anything else in Nigeria these days besides sexing around? Jeez. Productive time that should be used to think up business ideas and progress their lives is spent sleeping around.

OP, follow your conscience. There is a reason we have one.

eblazer:
The truth be told our universities don't provide the ample opportunity to be full blown graduate ,but the fact still remains you cant attribute you failures to any person accept you...

very true, the good thing though is the internet / online world has made knowledge easily accessible. Graduates do not have an excuse any longer to be sub-par

obaobirin:
Where are the wailing wailers ...biko come collect mic..

lmao!! they should remember to "drop the mic" afterwards

I can't stop laughing, so because the UK has a Shadow cabinet, Nigeria too wants to follow and copy. Hope they know what is involved and required not just simply naming names.

Richy4:
I did for 2hours or so before the prefect told the guy that that was enough.

Wow, that's serious!

espionagesavvy:
When I was in ss3 I tried to beat an ss2 girl who was insolent towards me. The kind beat wey this girl give me eh, there whole class erupted into cheers as this girl pummeled me. Wetin pain me na say na small girl, around 15 then.. after that day i felt like committing suicide.

2. The day I slapped an ss2 boy, and their whole class pursue me to my class to fight me.

3. In primary school when I shit for body, I was naked in the bathroom where my teachers dey clean me up and my whole female class mates came to help including my crush.. I almost die.

4. The day I was sleeping during sunday service in school and when awoken forgot to tuck my shirt in. I was asked to remove my short and I told my principal then that I wasn't wearing singlet and boxers, he gave me the microphone to say it before the whole students, I was in ss2, the female boarders come dey call me dangling cos my principal said I was not wearing boxers and dangling the tin around.

5. I was making out with a female students and the night watchman caught us, we were asked to call our parent..

Oh my goodness, sooo funny, particularly no 1 and 4

Richy4:
Mine was not a move. I got punished for nothing


he was like hmmmmm!!! that was a second offence disobeying a senior student. so are you telling me you are too big to kneel down?

he started creating a scene in the hostel. so all his mates gathered around us to know what went wrong.by then I was still in the dark because i did not know what i did. he told them that he walked passed me with my babe on our way to the hostel and i did not greet him. that he even greeted us and we did not answer him. I remembered that my mouth was opened on those terrible lies.

The rest of the seniors were really angry. they said i deserved to be given a maximum punishment. in fact all ss2 student should come outside of their rooms that our ego was getting too much. luckily the senior prefect intervened as all SS2 was not punished. I was just the only one that was asked to use tea spoons to transfer water from one full bucket to the other empty one

when I asked the girl if she has had any thing to do with that senior, she said he wanted to befriend her and she turned him down. she was really apologetic.

Sorry for sharing this here. the memory just came rushing back.

wicked punishment
That transfer would take hours to finish, chai

adebrain:
Would do just that in a bit.

Okay, thanks!

Such a touching story. May God reward her, such a kind soul, particularly in Nigeria where it is each man for his own.

Would be good if you could pick a random stock and do a quick analysis using the criteria you just explained.