₦airaland Forum

ivandragon:
kindly see my post to the other chap.


the price of diesel in PH is different from further inland & the same will be applicable to PMS when fully deregulated.

that's my simple point & I don't think it is ambiguous...

yes but thats life,where I am at the moment the price of fuel difers from street to street, market forces determines waht they sell.

9jakohai:
OK here is crude

1982:32.38 USD

1983: 29.04

(Bubu takes over in 1983 on December 31)

1984: 28

1985 27

(Bubu is overthrown on August 27, 1985)

1986:13.53

(IBB brings in SAP)

1987: 17.73

1989:17.31

1990: 22.36

Gulf war breaks out)

1991: 18.62.

All costs in USD per barrel.

(The economy was bad from 1982...and got worse by 86)

Do you now see the reason I was asking if you was born 1983 from the list you can see Oil was never as high as in the PMB Era but IBB done much better than PMB, IM not hating jst stating facts, he (PMB) even admited he dont know how to make money!

ivandragon:
I have answered him.


its pretty obvious you chaps don't do business or make use of diesel...

Bross I do,my Biz are based in PH,I Use a Diesel powered gen .

Saintp:
Bros, you are saying a piece of bunkum. If as a major shareholder of a dying company and i hire you to resuscitate it, will you face the board and be giving them these bulshit excuse or would you just tender your resignation before they fire you?

The bullshit you wrote is exactly why Nigeria owned companies don't survive except ones managed by foreigners because we only know how to compare failure with failure.

Look at Nigeria as a dying company before buhari came in, he claimed he knew the problems of the company and can stop the slide and make it better. We did not beg him to come and save the country, he fought to lead to country after several attempts and you stand before us to create excuses for failure to the extent of bringing up past failure to exonerate his failure?
Do you think Nigeria is all about APC and PDP, wailers and Zombies? Is that what matters to you?
If I am your HR manager, I'll sack you immediately, you will be a weak link to any team because you don't even have a mindset to succeed.
I repeat, there is no excuse for failure and it doesn't matter if the people before you have failed.

well said.The way 4ward for nigeria is to cut cost, we can cope,Cut cost of governance, everyone does it

9jakohai:
I was around then ! Very young, but very much around!

Cost of petrol under Bubu was 20 kobo in 1984. IBB raised it to 39 kobo in 1986, then 42k then 75K by 1991.

A good list is here...on this thread

I was talking price of crude Oga

9jakohai:
The recession of 1982...started when oil prices crashed in 1982....and it led to Shagari's govt trying to bring in austerity measures in 1983.

When Buhari took over on December 31, 1983...the situation was already bad...and the NPN govt had made things worse.

When IBB threw out Bubu in 1985....the situation got worse..until oil prices improved in 1990/91(Gulf oil windfall).

Bubu did not manage the crisis of the 1980's well, but he did try to improve domestic production...among other things. And he wasn't the cause...blame the NPN.

where youborn then? ie 1983
do you know the cost of oil when IBB was in power as to when PMB was in power?

Jaideyone:
good one OP. Saudi Arabic had over 500b dollars in foreign reserve during the oil boom. Saudi was able to defend it's economy with it's foreign reserve. Nigeria refused to save during the oil boom and there was nothing w would use to defend the economy when oil started selling at $40per barrel.

the recession was unavoidable!!!

when did Nigeria go in recession
you guys just like to talk

TonyeBarcanista:
Why are you against opposition to your god Buhari?

tbh, i think that guy was right, anyone coming up with questions should have their own answers,way better to the present FG
we are tired of all these plenty talks

joenor:
Where can we go from here?

Moon

EMANY01:
You are right about the fact that as you go further inland, the price per liter of petroleum products (not just petrol) will go up in a fully deregulated regime, however his suggestion (to open and enable the the eastern seaports from warri to calabar) severly mitigates the price creep.
I hope this logic is digestible for you.
Not seriously considering his arguments and just lampooning him, is just as severly obtuse.

Thats market 4 you, where I live, every petrol station have thier own price.so I chose where to go, Petrol is cheaper in London than North of England.

EternalTruths:
All hands are not equal.

The price of meat in the North, is it the same with the one in the South.?

Why not subsidize meat.?

When will you ever learn that you can not make everyone equal.

It is this stupidity of making everyone equal that has destroyed Nigeria.

Have you not heard of comparative advantage.


Pls, stop being myopic in life.

Why not ask that non-graduates earn the same salary as graduates.

Think before you talk.

Remember in Life, we all can't enjoy equally.

Everyone should hold unto his comparative advantage.

you know my friend, that guys responce was a knee jerk one, one born out of tribal sentiments, his harsh reaction was born out of you talking about Ports in the Ss and SE,this Ethnic bigotry is in all of us by default, how we control it is personal.I once made a comment about building a gas plant in Kaduna as stupid, they came 4 my head,let me tell you, if all the Oil was in the North all the refinaries will be there and working.

deenee:
Well articulated Bro!

Let me explain how the road trip to Europe via Libya works.


First and foremost anybody that embarks on the road trip if successful will end up as an illegal immigrant be it Libya or Europe.

The journey is usually broken into two with Libya been the first stop over and then another insane trip to Europe by sea.

Infact the number of casualties by sea is far greater than it occurs via the desert.

The road trip from Niger republic to Libya usually cost about 500k and between 1m-1.5m from Libya to Europe. So in effect the total cost is about 2m

Now I will still ask why spend up to 2m to embark on a suicide mission knowing fully when final result is to end up as an illegal immigrant? It just doesn't make sense to me at all.

Back to my expose.....most Nigerians with our typical sharp man mentality pay for the trip to Libya which cost 500k and agree with the agents to work briefly in Libya to raise money for the final trip to Europe. Hence the reason why most get stuck in Libya without proper papers and doing odd jobs here and there and some even engaging in crime and the ladies forced prostitution. The agents that facilitate these trips are part of a larger international human trafficking syndicate and they even go as far as telling the gullible travelers to take swear to an oath of secrecy. Eventually some get sold as slaves and the ladies as sex slaves. In my own candid opinion the risk is not worth it at all.

I will tell you about one of the returnees who was rehabilitated and church financed the purchase of a tricycle for him. He makes between 90k to 120k a month net of expenses in a month. He looks back now and regrets even taking that decision to travel.

There is even a lady that has set up a make up and catering business and is not doing bad.

Truth is even with 500k in Nigeria one can still start something despite all the hardship.

God bless Nigeria!

Plz what makes you to think everyone going to Libya go fru Agents?
Loads of them are going by themselves, pay as You go

tballeyy:
I surely believed that if Evans is release today , Igbos will make Igwe shap shap

Snmthjng wey B Ijaw affair you manage to smuggle Igbo topic into it . Nah wah shaaaa the tribalism abound in some of us nah infinity

dafeyankee:
PEPE.

Today she is dressed like a Cele Prophetess,and yesterday she was dressed like a Chicken.

Tomorrow,she might dress like an Egyptian Mummy.

And yes she is proud to associate with one of her boys,that she was using to hold Nigeria to ransom before.

It shall never be well with the Goodlucks.

This your Painment nor dey get expiry date sef ? ?

bakynes:
Which welcome development? PH has a Port as well as Warri,Calabar and they are neighbouring states to Baylesa. Must every state with access to Sea have a Seaport?

All SS states have plans to build a deep Seaport how visible is that?
Edo wants to build Gelegele deep Seaport, Cross-River wants to build a new deep seaport ,Ibaka deep Seaport in Akwa-ibom, Now Agge deep Seaport in Bayelsa with the existing ones in Calabar,Warri,PH and Onne ports.

Some will definitely experience low patronage because ships can only berth/land in a few ports around the same axis.

All seaport have different usage . They might be targeting the oil and gas mkt

nkemjacob2:
y all focus on church.. everyone commenting on it, what of Muslim. Dont they have structure

Same same . Religious body no difference

FOLYKAZE:
Nope. We were not been paid then. The work is voluntary. But it is fact that we keep records of income and expenses.

The law has to change. It is taking a gradual process though

Ok well most well l ow churched pay thier workers . From pastors to musicians . Choir and cleaners .

MrMcJay:
Stop telling lies. You're a Christian and that is very bad.

The USAID is the number 1 aid agency in Nigeria. Followed by the UK DFID. Others like the Norwegian Council and others follow.

Nigerian churches (mine inclusive) don't engage in acts of charity. Let's say the truth even if it's not convenient.

They do but not as they are meant to.It would be better if they did more ie make members kids go to thier university @ 50%discount

FOLYKAZE:
It doesn't matter if they are registered as charity. Churches in Nigeria are not operating like charity.

And for your info, I was a member of church workers. We keep records of all the amount we spend and receive on weekly basis. And also send report to the headquarter on monthly basis.

Did you pay tax as church worker ?
Besides weather they function as charity or not.that's what they are registered as.so unless that part of the law o's changed nothing will change .

FOLYKAZE:
Is Buhari not paying tax too? He earns salary after tax has been deducted.

And where is the evidence that Yusuf medical bill is offset from tax money? You guys just real out garbage from your anu just to prove a point.

On the principle of equity, the Church and Mosque is a business avenue which must be taxed. In UK, churches and religion centres are been taxed. This is because most full term pastors and bishops are been paid salary. The church earn revenue from every possible means. Either by selling religion items or offering money for special prayers. All these are no different from corporate organizations that render services or Industries that sells manufactured products which are taxed.

The Church property like every other Business properties should be taxed. The Sales revenue and Salaries of Pastors should be taxed too. There should no exception because both Church and it operators earn money. There is money flow that is taxable. These pastors or whatever they tag themselves should pay income tax just like every person. And the church which makes money from the congregation should also pay tax just like every other business or institution

Hard to charge churches and Mosque to pay Tax reason being they are charities registered plus they ha e no profit record . They are not termed biz however workers of churches are meant to pay taxes as they earn salaries .

HtwoOw:
Letting themselves get used



I understand 6.Something Billion paris club fund is a lot of money , but Industrial action won't force Aregbe to pay

What these people need is a lot of education, not cheap propaganda from PDP ( Yes, PDP) i have been to their meetings and i have heard the disgusting things they tell old and young and the seed of hate they planting around is germinating really fast

Aregbe should find a means to resolve this amicably , but being realistic 27 months arrears is very impossible to collect at once

Bross I dnt understand you ohh . Make him pay forget PDP pr APC . The salary owed is owed to members of both APC and pdp

Davidlanny:
Dear all,

My power steering is leaking oil also the steering moves freely before it turns the tyre(like that of molue bus (lol)).
If I decide to reckit the steering, will it eliminate the free turn of the steering before it turns the tyre or the solution is to replace the steering rack?

Your help is appreciated always.

Buy another one, do not play with your steering, you might end up under trailer
Don't joke with it.

LasgidiOnline:
A Catholic priest from Gboko diocese in Benue state on Wednesday 27 December 2017 stopped the State Governor, Chief. Samuel Ortom from making a speech at the thanksgiving service to mark the 64th birthday of Senator George Akume at St Christopher's church Wannune, Tarka LG.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TROEunRWKzU/WkTLrq-ksLI/AAAAAAABwSc/bDG7zPqDvPEpdG48-Q1b-l_LH4KDRGTyACHMYCw/s640/FB_IMG_1514455285961.jpg
According to sources in Wannune, the Parish Priest , Reverend Father Ashwe, did not allow the Governor to make his speech on the issue of non payment of salaries in the State.
Fr Ashwe said, during service, there was no way the governor would be allowed to talk.

Ashwe further explained to his people that the governor has failed to pay workers salaries thus causing hardship to workers in the State.

Akume had spoken at the thanksgiving mass and gave the microphone to Ortom to make a speech about the situation of things in Benue but Rev Father Ashwe did not allow the governor make his remarks, asking him to wait until they get to the reception venue where he could lie to the people about salary issues and other matters as much as he wanted. Ashwe added that he would not allow Ortom to stand in God’s house to deceive the people again.

Terver Akase, the Chief Press Secretary to the governor has however released a statement saying there is no rift between the governor and the Gboko Catholic diocese.


http://www.lasgidionline.com.ng/2017/12/catholic-priest-stops-governor-samuel.html

Bravo Rev father, this is what our Religious leaders should all be doing!
You nor pay workers you want them to hear and cheer you

Daboomb:
My own be say l no wan see all these "suicide bomber" babies of unknown father, wey dem dey bring come back for Nigeria.

lonlytroy:
Can someone do Yahoo in libya

wetin dey Hungry you different lol

TheCongo2:
Another "them vs us" nonsense .
Do you truly think that everyone who is trying to go abroad lacks common sense? Are you better than all Nigerians abroad? Do every Nigerians in Nigeria have a car, job house?

Yes them all Build mansions and have Range Rover sports, Q7 and G wagons ahahah

vingeophysicist:
young man my mum buys goods from Cotonou and sell in Nigeria.you are lying, Naira is bigger than cefa. 1000cefa=628naira, according to what my mum changed last week.

Thank you, so I thought

KevinDein:
I really don't understand you and your likes. Somebody says he's perfectly happy living in Nigeria, here you are telling him he is not.

Are you the one living his life?

Bross take am easy. there was a reason Fela sang suffering and smiling.
we 9ja people we are strong people, ask a man in the village without portable drinking water, he is happy as fk

AngelicBeing:
The guy has ignored your questions, he forgot that you are a UK resident with several years of working and living in England, l am waiting for him to answer your questions before I comment, as a PhD student in England, his written English on Nairaland is poor, well, I might be wrong though but at PhD level, l expect him to write better

That guy is not a student let alone a PHD one.
PHD nah beans ?
When people come here and start talking like that in the sense to make or attempt to make others inferior I usually go fru thier post . The Internet never forgets . I have gone fru his post and nothing about school is mentioned .

Digriz:
You are fortunate to be where you are but don't speak bad for others that are not as fortunate as you are..The country is hard to survive so don't blame them,it's ignorance but they have learnt their lessons ans will never make the same mistake of traveling thru the desert.
I have friends who are doing legitimate jobs overseas and they are doing well,.destinies differs so don't generalize.

Bross which fortunate ?
He is still going to work on craaap rds
No good healthcare
Get police brutality
Security is nxt to nothing g

AngelicBeing:
I concur, l don't blame those who are leaving the country, Nigeria is a dead jungle Qed

9ja ke . Well I thank God for me and my household my papa amd mama inclusive . We all have 1st class healthcare in the UK . We nor need visa or permission to use am.nah my hustle .

mfm04622:
Don't know. But last year (2016) was terrible! Pure water was being sold for 20 while coke (pet bottle) was about 500.

Ahah it is well.