₦airaland Forum

esof1: @ op, why do u think maternity leave is given? If u know why it is given, then u wouldn't talk abt paternity leave.

Anyway, maybe paternity leave would be given when men begin to breastfeed.

Ok lets get your rational explanation why marternity leave is given plz

This would be good xpecially now women want equal rights

tobillionaire: to dem hes nt a nigerian, cos women owns d child over there

Lie, wrong observation, how do you come to this conclusion and you don't have kids here?

phantom: no problems at all. i perfectly understand you but you almost also remember we live in an insane country wth insane and dishonest leaders who dont keep to agreements

Agreed trust me.Im a victim of that.Im a 2.1 graduate in mech Engin.I av to come abroad for me to be established in 9ja.But 2day in PH Im my own boss so I got no biz with the go t in terms of icome.In this trying times Docs should not go on total strike tjats where the ethics comea in.it should be life b4 money.ifif U pir mo ey b4 lige as a Dox.then U in the wrong profesion.should ha e son Biz Admin. Lol

kelly27: [/b]

Guy, are you high? It's obvious you are not properly guided. Next time think before you engage in such baseless arguement.

When matured and well mannered plus profetional people engage in meaningful conv try and stay clear.Im having a proper engagement with phantom.I dont know why U jumped in with this senseles comment.its evident Im not a doctor and only guides by principles just as phantom understands hence we are having this discus.U have to showcase ur ig orance in mod ope in putting ur point accross right?

emiye: Dont defend the indefensible, except you are paid to do so.

A barrel of oil has stayed at over 100 usd for years now, that is a oil boom for you in jonathan administration.

If debt is increasing astronomically during oil price boom, what will happen if there is a crash?

The brent oil price is currently at 102 USdollars per barrel, the lowest price in 14 months.


So much is going wrong at the moment than you can try to defend. It is a lost cause.

So from what you are saying you support my view that we can only run Nigeria with monies generates from Oil revenue right?

emiye: In ur mind, you have justified the rip off.

Where are the 4 greenfield refineries promised by the govt for increasing from 65 -97 naira? Was there no fuel scarcity this year. ?

I really feel sorry for most of you who covered your eyes of objectivity with primordial ethnic lens.

Nop U cant justify any form.of criminality.Im trying to pick out the few positives from an already bad situation if you get me.Building refinaries by the FG would be stupid as it wont work.The private aector has to

lowgeorge: . Baba u re soooooo on point....dey feeel u. Sum ethnic group will reun dis country aground over ethnicism and sensationalism in govt just ordinarily because they feel its their turn to rule or whatever bt if u look at it closely we ave more igbos in critical sectors of present economy, we ave enough igbos forming d advisory think tank for d present administration. We can even see hw d mad goat Jonaidiot is so reluctant to remove dat aviation pest just because of pressure frm sum quaters unduly cos she is an igbo. Look at hw hausa minister of education was thrown without timing look at hw minister for defence was thrown away without notice erelu obada. See hw lamido was thrown to d dustbin cos of too much efficiency . For u to knw today igbos re the ruling dis country nt even jonathan. I'm also aware of d parasitic army generals also having oil coampanies sucking us dry. Bt wat maddens me mre is d nonchallancy nd unbrazen record breaking thieveing dat dey ave embarked on. U hardly see a removal of an igbo man or woman in govt. These is xactly wat u get wen an igbo race is in power. Common bandit dats wat dey are. Very greedy souls. I can smell dem frm a distance. Get me a nuclear reactor nd I swear I will wipe dis country outta xcistence nt even sepration. The sins of dis country quips me a lot dat I can never ever even ave a patience of seeing it split bt to see it burrrrrrnnnnnn. Nigeria land of d captive and of the oppressed. 5 steps media hyped foward 100 steps backwards. Tell me d grandest tin dat has ever happened to a nigerian individual apart frm dis inflation we face everyday nd apart frm dose demonic priviledged children we ave here on dis site whose mamas nd papas ave secured for deir generations juicy contracts for dere pockets. Ask me wat a common nigerian can be proud of if nt d fear of d unknown nt even d brainwashing of our religion who re nt even helping matters. Nigeria shall burn and burn and burn till it turns frum ashes to dust.....

You are sooo disconnected from Nigeria to the tune of crimi ality.now tell me.whats the relationship between GEJ and the IGBOS? FYI Im not even and Igbo person.Damn ur hathred for the Ig os must ha e a CV or U are jst simply deluded in ur lil village that U ave got no sence of direction or the geographical regio s of the various ethinic groups in Nigeria

dvee2: You keep repeating project and sectors improving, list them. its not about coming to nija , can you list the projects and the sectors? can you equate them with the hundreds of billions of dollers generated?

Generated from where?

emiye: The increase in petrol price from 65 to 97 naira per litre in Jan 2012 was supposed to free more funds for the govt.

The 32naira increase in petrol price has failed to curtail govts borrowing, and the infrastructural growth fails to commensurate with the funds available.

But it forced the dealers to make petrol available to everybody or jave you forgotten so soon how I ise to queue to but petrol at the station? Unless U dnt drive

SirShymex: Blimey!

Really and truly, I was going to cuss you out. however, based on our previous chat about trains in the UK on a next thread and the fact that you live in London(I rate my fellow Londoners) - I'll give you pass. I'm sure by virtue of living here, you should be acquainted with what good governance is. That's if you're not the type that just go to work, and lock yourself inside your house calling naij almost 24hrs a day, like those mums - or those freshies who're always begging it, trying to be more English than the Queen.

Now take a look at the links you posted - with tons of on-going(uncompleted) inconsequential projects, and pray tell me that's the type of life-saving rojects I was alluding to. Water treatment plant in Abuja - like really? Two km roads here and there - are you having a laugh? Even the worst state governors in naij have completed far better projects. And if I were to post the achievements of all the worst despots that ever ruled in Africa - their non-existent achievements would dwarf whatever you posted up there.

Stop messing about - post REAL PROJECTS!

Let me say something here, where ever I live, i would always be a Nigerian, I dont suffer that inferiority complex most people do, I will Rep 9ja even if I live in the moon, so if I go to work and lock myself up and call 9ja 24/7 what has that got to do with anything?Like I told one of my colleague at work, i dont live in the Uk, I just work here, I live in 9ja.I dont know howmany times a year you go back 9ja, but i do at least every 4th month,you wont believe how much some sectors have improved,them project listed where never heard of B4 GEJ, every leader is facing criticism, even OBAMA.I have seen ur mind is set to reject anything positive Im going to say as you have rightfully picked out teh Ongoing project and failed to site the completed ones as if you did not see them,if you check the last link you will notice it comes out state by state, so check ur state and see wa gwan there, Also like I told one poster on here B4, if you feel GEJ is the worst Leader we ever had I challenge you to name one i n the past that was better??

1stola: so

SO you wont have a clue about what goes on in ND

phantom: germany2006

germany2012

UK2012

Guy Im not i n dispute that they dont go on strike, try and get where Im coming from,if you check very well its on the Docs that belong to agreed Unions that go on strike.In my place of work, I dont belong to any Union,however my colleagues do so if they vote to go on strike,I will still go to work.If you check they refuse to attend to non urgent medical cases,Now in NIgeria since the Docs are on strike would they treat Accident victims? or someone who got shot by armed robbers? or perform C sections?answer is NO, this is where Im trying to direct you to when it comes to ethics, in the west saving a life comes first to the Doctors before money hope you understand where Im coming from

SirShymex: You are funny guy. Rather than answer a simple question, you are answering a question with a next one - talking about where you live like I asked you. That is how folks fail exams.

Do I look like I live in naija or have ever lived there? The onus is on you to list the projects the FG has completed.

List them - I'm waiting.

, I have started with few links eh here we go
http://www.cknnigeria.com/2014/01/pictures-of-completed-abuja-lokoja-road.html
AND
http://www.fct.gov.ng/index15_04_14n.html?option=com_content&view=article&id=286:fct-ministers-wife-reaffirms-support-for-the-needy&catid=:latest
AND
http://kaanayo.com/index/blogs/list-of-gejs-achievements-as-president-do-you-agree/
AND
http://www.theinfostride.com/2014/01/giant-of-africa-nigeria-mobilises-700-million-for-trans-sahara-gas-project-says-gej/
AND THE BIG ONE

http://www.goodluckjam.org/?page_id=98

GenBuhari: I doubt authencity of Thief Obasanjo's economic figures.
A man that can deceive the nation for 8 years that Abacha looted by conducting fake court proceedings abroad and organising the return of phantom "Loot" that nobody has ever traced in our treasury accounts is capable of any level of deception.

For instance I do not know if any economist can explain how Thief Obasanjo managed to devalue Naira 500% from N22=$1 to N135=$1 whilst hiking fuel prices from N20/litre to N75/litre and still maintain Inflation steady at around 10%??

It does add not add up- his finances needs to be fully audited.

Cos some people are so gullible and just employ the tactics of follow follow so the feel belonged.Any well Educated plus well informed person would know we are moving forward in Nigeria, we are better than yesterday, I believe any plus is positive however slow,its way better than negative, we seem to 4get all 2 quickly how we criticized the removal of subsidies now see what's happening now.

chemali: Doubtless, Obj's administration was corrupt. Compared to GEJ admin, Obj was "ordinary stealing". The foundation of our current mess is Obj's doing. However, imagine for a second if the debt was not settled? The information regarding this debt is in public domain. I don't see any reason they should be doubted.

They seem to 4get that during OBJ.s time we had nominister of petrolume for 8 years, OBJ was in charge of Oil petrolume

1stola: for your info, I'm half deltan and half Lagosian(badagry)
So, if you guys just want to be lazy and continue to drink from your 82 oil wells, nobody cares. I won't mind if this godforsaken Nigeria just divides. I'm tired all hearing all this "one Nigeria". Let everyone be one their own for us to actualize our potentials.

I take it you live in Lagos right,

SirShymex: You are funny guy. Rather than answer a simple question, you are answering a question with a next one - talking about where you live like I asked you. That is how folks fail exams.

Do I look like I live in naija or have ever lived there? The onus is on you to list the projects the FG has completed.

List them - I'm waiting.

No offence but you are sounding funny.frm my reply U would realize Im using my fone cos Im at wrk wen I get home I will provide links mate

ba7man: Has PDP being able to provide any of their states with Portable water??

Will u vote for me if I provide u with Portable water?

Mr Portable water.

Haha this is a typical case of one whom think govt should provide everything.Come ha e a look at the western countries you will realize govt dnt provide portable water.

anonimi: Inside that 70% is the 25% for our SINators and legisLOOTERS as reported by ex-CBN chief Sanusi. That is understandable if they receive N29 million monthly for doing almost nothing.
It is up to all of us, Nigerians to talk about this until there is SUBSTANTIAL reduction of what can only be classified as their LOOT

You are right there my friend

SirShymex: However what have they done with the billions they borrowed?

And has this administration completed one project apart from the used two trains they gave a paint job?

Realy you cant find anything they have completed?.I do t even live in Nigeria I bet Im more informed

1stola: You didn't comprehend my post. In the context, I didn't refer to all Niger Delta people...
just like people say ..."Not all muslims are terrorist...

There ia nothing to comprehend U need to realy chill make more research and sturdy how the world works.Have you ever been to the UAE? See if the owners of the land work.I dont wanna know what state U are frm but if not frm the ND tell me what your state contribute to the pocket of Nigeria.Im frm Delta State.my town is the size of Ikeja and we have 42 oil wells.There was nothing to show for the wells if not for the Emergence of our able leaders and the steong will of the youths whom you label as thieves in ur post.

chemali: There was no scam. It was public knowledge that not all the debt was paid by Obasanjo but a portion relating to the Paris Club which was a huge chunk as debt servicing was huge and it constituted a drain on foreign reserves. At the point of payment in 2006, Nigeria still owed about $5bn to other lenders including world bank and private sector. As at June 2007, Nigeria owed 926 billion naira (domestic debt) and $3 billion foreign debt. This is about $8 billion in today's money (source: dmo.gov.ng). Contrast that to $64 billion quoted in the OP's post. Our total debt has increased by 800% and still no light. All the hitherto public utility companies have been sold and we are still acquiring more debt with record oil prices. The only scam there is PDP and we need them out ASAP. You don't corner all the oil money and then secure debt to build roads and expect us to applaud you. The oil subsidy scam was one of the greatest heist ever pulled and it was and is still a successful one!

Give is any link to show OBJ ran our cointry at 0naira external debt plz

DAVE5: ehm... so if someone else's situation is worse than your's, you give yourself a pat on the back right, btw the USA you are quoting is in a lot better standing than we would EVER be, good roads, clean, employment, standard of living, electricity, correct strong stable and cheaper network (to browse till mama calls), the list goes on... so pls don't compare...

OK let me xplain more.if we borrow 50 trillion and our power sector become stable wo t U shoit up PDP?point Im trying to rais is debt is a must if development must go on.how and where do U want FG to ger the money to build roads.bridges and support various project.mind you the sole source of income for the payment of civil service os money derived from Oil sales which aint even enough

barcanista: It's not about "Borrowing money" its about borrowing money to engage in meaningful and feasible projects and can be paid at agreed time without putting the citizens to untold hard condition. As at today virtually non of our institution is working despite government's propaganda. How do we service the loans? How do we pay back? It means it will be the Nigeria people that will bear the brunt.



BTW: If you are here to argue partisanly, PLEASE I am not interested.

Im not politicaly afiliated so dont worry my arguments are based on facts.The only income we have to pay for everything which is not even enoigh is income from crude Oil.So where do U want the infastructuralal development moni3s to come frm.I major point as stated is I wish for Niveria to uave acces to more loans so we can enduldge in more project.Its all about money management.We need more loans.Have a look at Germany the bivest Expnomy in Europe did you see howmuch they owe?

jdilight: 10.4 trillion Naira na debt? Funny people I thought it was in $.

My thought lol these people have no clue

DAVE5: He is not there to satisfy any sentiments, but rather the people that WANT him there KEEP him there to enrich their already filled pockets at the expense of the populace(empty pockets, who CAN'T and WON'T fight for what's right) while the populace praise and worship them and suffer the nonsense results.

These debts are what SOME use as their wealth (looted wealth) and the poor pays the consequences.

So all those calabar festivals were run on debts

Have you bothered to check what eh USA owes? you will realise we owe nothing

barcanista: This report has confirmed my earlier position that Jonathan is operating a Government of Fraud. When President Obasanjo came to Power, Nigeria's External debt was $35bn. President Obasanjo successfully cleared the debt and left a Reserve of about $45bn. In contrast Jonathan has depleted the Reserve and has punged us into a huge debt.

Jonathan must be kicked out of power in 2015

I do nt think you know much about Economics, The world lives on Debt, its the reality we face.Check the western world today, The start projects with no physical cash, the raise the monies via borrowing then offset it with tax.In the western world you dont own ur house or brand new car in full as they are on Loan or mortgage. as at 2012 Nigeria ranked NO 89 in the Debt, the Highest Debtor in the whole world is the USA check this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

thepathologist: israel doctors strike http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/israeli-doctors-strike-finally-ends-after-five-months-as-landmark-deal-inked-1.380681?v=778881D888022F3290B306C5ADDD25BA

Erm I cant pass no vote of confidence for Israel as they aint no western country.try another link

thepathologist: doctors strike in uk 2012. http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-18525632

Read that again, then come back and reply, if you check, they said non serious Appt where cancelled and GP are accepting A&E Mind you GPs are self Employed .So if you check they where still working for ethical reasons.

Judah1986: Today I met one of my patients that I performed a myomectomy for some months ago. She told me that the federal government must be very foolish to sack doctors and she sympathised with me. Truly I was moved and it was then that I remembered that it is only those that have benefited from a doctor's touch that truly appreciate him. Please my colleagues, ignore those that hate us with inordinate hatred. And for those who just make judgements carelessly, fuelled by bitterness and envy without knowing the facts, I want you to remember Jesus Christ's words in Matthew 12:36= "But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken."

I think you are contradicting yourself, as in your Job, comes ethical codes cos you are dealing with human lives,if you put that in practice should a strike Hold? Should Doctors realy go on strike?I might be wrong plz name one western country where doctors strike?