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otomatic: The cars are not "made in Nigeria" but "assembled in Nigeria". The real manufacturing was done abroad and then the completely knocked down parts were shipped down for assembling. I'll rather buy a more prestigious tokunbo SUV for 1.9milla than this KIA.

What you have just said had been xplained in su sequent post.No car manufacturing company manufactures its whole parts.They all pay diff company and get cars assembled at a plant.Same as Toyota has plants in the Us and UK.Mercedes and Bmw has assembly parts too in the US

Desdola: How much is the basic salary in Nigeria that we call a car of btw 1.2 and 1.9m naira low price?

But people buy cars worth more than that

Toks2008: That is just the point.

Until we have new good cars for 700 to 900k,people will still prefer tokunbo

Toks is a natural occurance even if the cars go for 10k we will still find a reason to but toks.Here in the western world people bu used car more than Nigerians

begwong: With that lot of dough,1.9m.I can get 3 clean tokunbos. No be naija road we go use am?
NB: if thats the picture of the car,why na oyinbo dey inside and the scene no be any naija road too

Carry talk oya name the cars wey 1.9 go bu 3 of

eunisam: N1.9million and you said is cheap? Abeg review the price. What happend to those days gulf was sold at the price list of N80,000 and N120,000? Any company that can produce such affordable car will be ontop.

Guy E for be free nah abi.I do t think U ever bought a car cos if you did you will notice toks cost as much as that.

Guidette: Yeah. And where did i say private hospitals aren't better? But does that mean that govt hospitals are not good enough for people to go to?
The crux of the matter is that whether govt or private abroad, they still meet the minimum standard of care as stated by WHO in the UK and us. Now back to Nigeria, our govt and private hospitals are nothing to write home about. And that is the issue. You don't even live in Nigeria and you are talking. I'm talking from experience. I have seen both sides and I can tell you that the reason our healthcare system is like this is because of the govt. who is going to provide budgets for the hospitals and maintain standard of care. It is the govt. Or do you expect doctors to take care of their patients, then use the salary they have o buy equipment to make sure their patients ge the best care? Culpability should be given when due. if you think that all those private hospitals you see in the UK are that way because of only funding, you are on a long thing. They are also regulated by the UK bodies to make sure the provide adequate healthcare. On the other hand in Nigeria, private hospitals range from below substandard to passable. No regulation bodies are in place, that's why a failed medical student can open a surgery behind his house and admit patients while security authorities are oblivious to the situation.
In the end, like every other sector in Nigeria, the health care system is in shambles as a result of neglect and corruption. I mean....... Surgeons operate using rechargeable lamps in Nigeria. If this does not attest to what I have been saying since, then I don't know what will.

Advice to you, dont assume, stick to fact and something you know, hence my responce are always short cos these are facts,Im not speculating, GPs are self employed here in the Uk go and ask properly more so I live in both countries Nigeria/UK as a matter of fact, I o nly work in the Uk I live in Nigeria and comparing Uk NHS and teh Nigerian health system so so unfair as the UK health system is more than 200 years Old

cutiesoglam: See,until we knw wat u r doing as christians. Dts wen we knw watwe do n not do. FYI: d bishop didn't force any body to donate it is thru der free will cos dey can afford to sacrifice it . M a member of LFC, n I pay my offerings n tithes as convenient4 me. I choose wat I can ssincerely give to God. Ni believe no pastors in HQ has questions or tell me I can't b blessed cos of dt. U choose to believe at u want to believe. So, nobody should talk nonsense abt d church.people learn touse ur brains in all doings.

To give takes grace, but waht you are meant to give is not specified, however your tithe is a whole diff thing, its meant for the livites, whom in modern days dont exist but in the biblical days would be the motherless, fatherless, homeless, less privileged etc

Weah96: The bible was written by mammals like you and me. The writers have names, human names like James and Peter and Moses. No God ever talked anywhere. Those writers were either smoking DMT or eating mushrooms.

I dont agree with you there, however the words in the bible are simple and plane but humans, greedy ones twist it to their own advantage so that guilable people fall pray, if you can read and understand the Bible well you would realise money is not object.When the bible says give it never said what should be given so in other words no one should add to teh bible what it never said and remove from it as well.if you read about Money in the Bible you will understand why you should not pay tithe however pastors would no teach in that direction but some denomination knows these truth and stick to it.

saxywale: Tax is almost nonexistence in Nigeria. The ones that even pay is inconsequential. It's good we start asking for what was done with our collective oil wealth. Everyone wants a top class health care system but we can't still ignore the fact that there were some demands made by the striking doctors which doesn't really make much sense, hence why a lot of Nigerians are commending GEJ for his action(including his enemies). Then again, a partial strike by the doctors would have been the best action like it's done in advanced countries like Britain and not advanced like Egypt not long ago. My opinion sha.

Brov you know in the west when people strike its usually for certain problems with working conditions, ie pension or hours etc 9 out of ten wont be for pay,more so when these strikes go on they don't get paid, it would be very cool to see that go down here.

Guidette: Ok I agree that it is not free for UK citizens but it was free for me when I used it. But..... Nigerians d pay tax as well. What is being done with the money? Infact scratch out the tax thing. What is being done with the billions accrued every year from oil. Nothing. The UK does not even have a tenth of the resources we have but the difference is clear.
The US health care is more of a money driven system, which is not really ideal for people who cannot afford it, but it is still top notch. Most of the advances in medicine comes from the US as of now. The UK is more of a social welfare healthcare system. Both are not perfect and have their shortcomings, but the issue should not necessarily be about their disparities but what unites them. Which is a high standard of care.
We do not have that in govt or private owned hospitals in Nigeria which was the main concern of my first post reply. Don't support the govt's decision on this because they have fallen very short on the ball. If we had a good healthcare system in the first place where the doctors work under good conditions, have proper equipment, and are adequately compensated, there will not have been a need for this strike in the first place.

You still did not get the whole gist, I have lived in the Uk for up to 18 years so I know what Im talking about, for you to get the bes in teh UK you need to go private, also we all have GPs, and we pay to see them indirectly if you read the post by sexywale up there, and you said it was free for you? how? cos subscription is only free for people on benefit.Let me ask you as a Doctor who would you like to work for, Govt or Private?.I also think it would be ideal for us to have same GP system where we go to our doctors whom will be private, let them charge us for consultancy and we go buy the medicines from the chemist now that's a challenge for the Docs in Nigeria and I know they wont like it.I believe since we seem to have many sick people in Nigeria so the Doctors would not be short of work.I recon this is a time of rethink, we should stop blaming the Govt 4 everything.

Guidette: Looooolllll what are you saying. I've schooled in the Caribbean, UK and US. The govt hospitals are amazing. Healthcare is free in the UK and it is top notch. You wouldn't even get govt healthcare from the UK in private hospitals in Nigeria. So what are you talking about. The difference is so clear. Even in the small Caribbean island hospital I visited, I was beyond surprised. I saw a Nigerian doctor there who had been living there for over 20 years and she looked happy and that was a govt hospital.
Even if private hospitals are better, it is no excuse for the shambles our govt hospitals are in. Most govt hospitals abroad meet standards of care. Ours are not even fit for zoo animals. Smh.

Ok good, now that U schooled in teh UK and US, tell me the difference between the UK health service and US health service?Just so you know, the NHS is not truely free, nothing is free i n the UK, we pay what we call NI, National Insurance mine on average every month is £180 weather I go to the GP or not, so tell me how is it free? and also, if you go to your GP cos you are Ill and given a subscription, you go to the Chemist and buy the drugs plus you get to pay for the subscription,is this not correct?

ObiOkpor: Tell that to your USELESS family if at all you have one...
Did i tell you i wanna be a doctor?
Silly IDIOT!
Am proud of my profession and when you come,i will LECTURE you..
Once more,you're hopeless....

Leave these people who are so slow that they cant put an argument forward without insulting people and they claim they are civilized

Guidette: I am a med student about to finish and by God who made me, I cannot see myself working in Nigeria. The health system is in shambles that is ill equipped and hardly regulated.
Doctors are not the cause of our problems. The govt that has neglected our healthcare of Nigerian citizens for decades has made the system so rotten beyond repair. If I was a doctor in Nigeria, I will demand over a million naira as salary because it is haaaarrrrrddddd to do your job without the proper equipment under unsanitary conditions. They are not greedy, but are demanding compensation for all the chaos around them.
The system begets who they are. Nobody wants to upgrade the health system because the corruption has eaten way too deep. Any challenge to the status quois met with resistance in the form of sack of the residents. Normal nations are supposed to spend I think about 25% of budget on healthcare as advices by WHO. I am very sure we don't even spend up to 10% and even then, not all of it gets to where it is needed.
Anyways sha, as usual the govt will see the error of their ways and reverse this nonsense. And I will be here sipping my tea.

Good you are about to finish you Learning process, plz change that ideology, if you do a simple research into the western world how they go about their Health Sectors, you will quickly realize the best and specialist Hospitals are all Private,ie Own by private individuals or companies and not the Govt, the Govt Hospitals provide basic Health Care.

akmoh: After all has been said the reality on ground still if the govt is responsible for training 95% of resident doctors you should know that its a dumb practice. Private hands should come in and fill in the remaining space. We have very few doctors in Nigeria, and the few doctors available prefer working for the govt because that's where they can get easy and sustained source of income. Govt really has to reform health care in this country and the best way to start is to reduce the workforce in her direct employ. A situation where a teaching hospital gets annual allocation from the govt that they cannot generate internally in 3 years is totally unacceptable. Do you know that majority of the docs with 1 year post nysc experience lack a lot of skills and the residency program provides an opportunity for them to enhance their skill set and productivity? So know from today that the relationship between the resident docs and their employer is supposed to be a win win relationship and the govt/employer holds all the aces. Without residency training where you and I present ourselves as guinea pigs for the training of docs the docs can never improve their skills.

Try and do research into how the UK fund the NHS and the relation they have to GPs and Dentist.You will come out with the conclusion and the FEg is pointing to the right way but a lil crap approach

ideepaul: that you have the freedom of speech does not mean your brain has the capacity to process speech...think well and give prove when you talk

Brov Im from the core Niger Delta, you are from Akwa Ibom, so how are you meant to comprehend all what I have just said?U have no clue non at all regards them matters

Dee60: Only in Nigeria will you pay militants more than you pay consultants! And many cant see through. What does the FG use 52% allocation for? They find it easy to publish what they allocate to states and LGs but cannot tell us how the 52% is spent. Is all that money spent on oil subsidies?

SO its 2014, U still dont understand why the greedy politicians decide to pay Militants??are U a learner? where do you think all these massive amount politicians share every weekend comes from? def frm Oil and when the boys in the creeks found a way of stopping it there where no monies to share, just imagine no millions for 3 months, so paying the boys in the creek was a win win for all, easy as ABC.So my dear, dont let the issue of militants bother you its their Birth Right.

uncleu: Resident doctors in Nigeria tend to forget that they are in for short training program. They are not indispensable. The consultants can run any hospital with house officers and medical officers. There are thousands of young doctors with primaries waiting and looking for places to do residency. Lift this suspension after six months, throw application process open to everybody and see if resident doctors will go on strike again.

Exactly my thought

I sincerly hope the FG pass the Bill where if you strike no pay, SO who so ever strikes is doing it for Just course not for selfish interest

lafuria1: If this doctors start carrying arms and blowing up hospitals , this goverment will not only grant them amnesty but also sponsor them to the best teaching hospital in the world.

The doctors won't lose that much, all they need is open private hospitals or travel and be doctors in other countries.

Do you remember how teh Govt hospitals use to be like in the 80s?

Siena: Kia and Hyundai have improved over the years, but they're still pretty sub-standard by modern standards. I worked for two Kia dealerships in the UK, so got to know a fair bit about them. Reliability is average, especially on post 2009 models. Still quite crude though, with CANBUS only starting to appear in the 2011 Kia Sportage, 2012 Kia Optima and 2011 Kia Sorento.

They look good, the 2011 Sportage was designed by Peter Schreyer, who was the designer of the first generation Audi TT (cue the LED day-running lamps).

Items of major concern (based upon what we've replaced under warranty between 2005 - 2012):

001) Kia Ceed ('07 - '10) Manual transmission. Internal selector fault, causing difficulty in shifts.
002) Kia Rio ('07 - '10) As above.
003) Kia Sedona / carnival ('06 - '11) Oil pump and balancer shaft drive gear failure (2,9 CRDi only). Failure destroys the engine and turbo.
004) Kia Rio ('11> Airbag fault, incorrectly wired control unit.
005) Kia Sorrento ('10> premature camshaft lobe wear, causing top-end knock. (2,2 CRDi only).
006) Kia Picanto ('05 - '11) Crankshaft pulley failure, modified version available from Kia. failure can damage the crank nose, requiring engine rebuild.
007) Kia Venga ('09 - '12) Window channel guide failure, causing window to jam in use, and get stuck open. (front windows only).
008) Kia Picanto ('07 - '11) Fuel gauge sender unit failure, causing erratic / false readings.
009) Kia Cee'd ('07 - '11) Aircon condenser failure, lower fins detach, causing R134-A gas to be lost.
010) Kia (all models from '08> Front seat reclining / sliding mechanism failure.
011) Kia Soul ('09 - '12) Rear seat base locking catch failure, seat base will not lock down.
012) Kia Cee'd ('07 - '11) Earth strap failure, causing flickering aircon panel, dash and radio displays. (Earth strap behind driver's headlamp).
013) Kia (various models '07 - '11) Faulty audio unit - may reject CD's, and fail to switch off (logic fault).
014) Kia Carens ('02 - '06) Exterior door handle failure. They break inside, and will no longer operate the latches.
015) Kia Sorento ('02 - '09) Injector seal failure (2,5L diesel only).
016) Kia Sedona / Carnival ('98 - '05) Injector seal failure (2,9L diesel only).
017) Kia Sedona / Carnival ('06 - '11) Injector seal failure (2,9 CRDi only).
018) Kia Sedona / Carnival ('98 - '05) Cylinder gasket failure (2,5 ROVER KV6 only).
019) Kia Carens / Rondo ('06 - '11) Rear chassis and subframe corrosion. Rust prevention is carried out prior to corrosion setting in.
020) Kia Sportage ('04 - '10) Front lower suspension control arm failure. Bonded rubber bush breaks, and seperates from steel arm.
021) Kia (various models '98> Front anti-roll bar link failure, worn joints cause knocking when driving slowly over uneven surfaces.

These are just a few of the trouble areas. Most of these are warranty issues, not sure how that works in Nigeria though. Current models have a 7-year warranty, which is a great incentive to buy, especially if you don't keep your car for more than 4 years. Again, not sure if this applies to Nigeria.

DId you notice what started happening to all the Hyundis the Met bought all cos of their 5-7 yrs warranty in a bid to save money lol, they keep paying for recovery.

PatriQ: Hi Guys,

i own a lovely KIA Cerato 2007 model EX that has had no major problems. Recently i changed the ATF not that i was having any issues, but just to tune the car up, and the car hasn't been the same. The transmission has been in bad shape. I checked online and the only recommended ATF for KIA is SP III and for some reason i cannot locate any. Even the KIA shop in PH does not have that particular spec.
Please, is there an alternative to the SP III specifications// any recommendation?? or is there anywhere i can get the SP II in Nigeria??
I would really appreciate any help.
Thanks guys

Thats the problem of KIA, in the Uk, You have to go to KIA to fix ur car,no one else does.

skullzrep: Please Does Anyone Have An Idea Ao Much A Kia Picanto's Engine Costs&Possibly A Recommendable Kia Mechanical Engineer In Lagos!!!!!

Thats where the Kia storey get sour,very hard to maintain.

wealth123: tell me about Kia Sorento please if u know cos am planning to buy a fairly used one

Guy stay away from that car, if you value ur pocket

drcenti07: Pls, what problem will I face..

I got one in ladipo yesterday, plugged it, it cranked and started once...

It wasn't the specific part no for my ecu (39110-39182)...

But I noticed it revved better than the other ecu, as in my rpm could reach the red zone on revving, unlike the previous ecu with part no (39110-39208)..

Aside from the perfect rev, the other symptoms were present...
-Low rpm
-hesitation
-surging
-stalling
-strong smell of uncombusted gasoline
-very rough idle

My original part no for my ecu is (39110-39108) according to a Goodman here..

And my key isn't coded...

Are you saying that, I still need to programme the ecu with my vin?

God bless

yes thats what you should really do with an ECU that correspond with you original part number,you just listed new problems, with time those problems would develop into major problems, for the time being I reckon you use that for the shortest possible time while you try and get a programmed one.

Malawian: dont worry, we know the way to the chemist and we can all google. we still have phamacists to advice us. make una go fvkk unaself. nonsense. when you guys get out of the country looking for work, you will find out that your "qualifications" will only get you cleaner job in oversea hospitals.
msheeeeeew. me it has been more than 10 years i went to the hospital, i have had malaria like 3 times since then, i know where the chemist is.
make una go fvkk unaself.

just that my Ngozi is also a doctor , in which case she is welcome to fvckk me instead.

guy 3 gbozaaaa 4 you hahahah

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drcenti07: How na?
I hav tested over 6 now, none started the car.. They r now sayin I hav to program it wit d ignition.

If I get d right ecu, is it plug and play?

2ndly, can I verify the part number from the ecu panel? Cos I can't rely on d casing anymore

Thanks again.

Get one with ur Original part number and program it with the VIN number and you are good to go, most ECu are plug and play if they come with and American car.

drcenti07: God bless you to liberia and back.

The one I have here in it is 39110 - 39208..

The car strarts but doesn't run fine @ all...

Pls any idea where I can get the right ecu?

Ladipo dealers are cunny..

Right in my eyes,they switched the panels of different Ecu into different casing, just to match, the part numbers...

You need to get one and program it with your VIN number if not you will face same problem

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