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Kobojunkie:
Excuse you? His last LEGIT employment record shows he worked as a store clerk. There are still no records of him actually running a legit business since then or making huge funds LEGALLY . . . that is what they are trying to tell you.

When I was last in the UK, I discussed this with people who knew him before he became governor and none of those who even drank with him had any information on him ever working at a legit org, talk less of running a successful business of any kind. The only record says he served as some consultant to the federal Government, during the IBB and Abacha regimes (according to his wiki page). Who come go believe that one?

If you have evidence of his being a billionaire before he became Governor, bring it or shut it please. Na so people go go from being nobodies to overnight Governors/ministers in Nigeria, simply by lying their way through the process when they get down there.

Are you also going to tell us that prior to being made a deputy Governor/Governor, Jonathan Goodluck was a billionaire? See were . . . chase were!!

Ok well you are a typical example of why we cant have any kinda meaningfull argument when it comes to issues like telling me to SHUT IT,I blame you?telling me you visited Uk etc do U know when I started living here? You might still B in primary school then 4 all U know. my post code says UB6 whis is ruislip so I know exactly where he worked.Nowwhere do you think he got 5000 000 000 that he gave to UPU B4 he became governor? No Ibori is half urhobo and itsekiri that gave him advantage to the Oil Biz down the Niger Delta.this made him an invaluable asset to the Likes of IBB when it comes to them doing their runnings.I dont need to go into details,We still blame him for going into politics He should have stayed out.I know his mates who stayed purly as Biz men they still run things.

wowo2:
Someone said he had money before  

The UK dailies report him as earning £5,000 a year while working in Wickes, a store selling home goods. A Monk cannot survive on that - not in the UK.

http://trends.com.ng/2012/02/looted-wealth-james-ibori/

Thats evidence you dont realy know Ibori B4 he was Govt,in Nigeria today especialy in the SS area can a poor Man be a governor? bro just to add to what that person said He was a Billioneer B4 he was a Governor and yes he did give that money to UPU we all know that nah who dem catch B thief full stop

Only if you guys know howmuch this Damn case is costing the UK taxpayers.Nigeria is a shadowed state

wordychap:
this guy doesn,t only steal, he's sick upstairs as well. launder has to do w illegally acquired money. while in govt its obvious where d illegality was played except you would say u did drugs n sold human parts etc whichever, ibori should be too ashamed to talk for now, it only shows how unrepentant he is. i hope u burn ibori

Guy google the meaning of Launder   and come back and how can you identify legal money in the Nigerian context when everyone is guilty of same crime?

snthesis:
if u read my post properly, the table etiquette referred to was the proper way in holding the fork and knife - (loads of table etiquettes/manners dey o)

thanks for rendering ur informed opinion- i grew up wit the notion that the right hand holds the knife and the left holds the fork- a couple of lefties have attested to this on this thread as well. The problem wit this notion is with a casual observer- no one looking at a diner from a distance is going to ask why the diner is eating with the utentils inappropriately i.e reverse handling,the assumption wud be the diner doesnt have an inkling on how to properly handle his/her cutlery rather than the person being a leftie.

Right I now understand your understing of the word Etiquette.Now Etiquette reffers to manners in this case you are reffering to table manners (this does not limit itslef to just how you hold fork and Knives) it involves the following
If on a date like you was
1Getting up when the lady comes to the table
2 Not eating with your mouth Open,
3 NotChewing Bones(This one Hard cha)
Have a decent convo while eating and many more
Now regards what hand you use to Hold Knife or Fork, there is no standard rule in this OK!hope you get this like most people rightly wrote on here already you use your DOMINANT hand to hold the knife .Me I swap hands on the table Ie cut with right and still use teh right to put food in my mouth.
Now it would intrest you to know that theere are more than on kind of Table Knife.
So I dont xpect U to go to a chinease Rest and being given chop stick you swop to your left hand lol
I have lived here long anough to know this ok,hope this settles teh matter.

joskid:
[b][/b]guess what ibori, alams amd dariye have in common? they looted the treasury, they were arrested in london, and they are all CHRISTIANS. Isn't that wonderful?

This is a very good observation. But let me explain something you may have never known. GOD'S JUDGMENT WILL START WITH THE VERY CHRISTIANS FIRST WHO KNEW THE TRUTH AND DID NOT OBEY IT. God's judgment will begin at the very house of God and MOST people there (apparently hypocrites) will NOT survive it. The ignorant muslim who did not know much about Jesus will not receive the same type of heavy punishment the so-called Christians will receive. This SOBERS me badly and makes me GENUINELY want to be like JESUS in truth and NOT a hypocrite.

ibori, alams amd dariye ARE hypocrites!!

No disrespect, what has religion got to do with this?

luvtoyota:
ALL GOVERNORS IN NIGERIA ARE JUST LIKE IBORI
ALL OF THEM ARE THIEVES , JUST LIKE IBORI .
NIGERIA IS A BASTARD COUNTRY , THAT CAN CATCH THIEF

Most sensible post so far

SOme people here make me laugh, some of you guys are just hearing the name Ibori the first time since he got tried in London.If you was a Deltan you will think twice b4 casting your stone, I dare any of you here to name your state lets see howmuch you past and present Gov have stollen and more so what they did in your state in the form of infastructure and Job creation.Im waiting
We all know stealing is stealing however big or small but we are blowing this way way outta proportion in 9ja who dem catch nah B thief,.The word on the street is that this guy fell outta favour with the gov of teh day end off.And Im still waiting for yah to name your state lets disect howmuch your state gov stole and are still starching away

Oh Boy see game

snthesis:
u missed d point totally, i'm not saying u must always obey etiquette, but if u want to it must be done correctly

Am I OK Plzz plzz lets see your own understanding of the SO Called ETIQUETTE Im getting worried you are using that word for the very first time oyah give us your own understanding and definition of that word
PS Guy no fall our hand ohhhh

adebayo201:
abeg bro na wrong quote u give oh check wella b4 u quote person

was meant to copy tpia's not urs sowwy

adebayo201:
i thought u ar my english teacher?

Bross if I begin count the ammount of food we eat with our hands here in England you sef go tire
Nothing spoil if the guy decide to eat Rice n stew with clean Hands

snthesis:
tank u my Lady , lots of uncultured folks with access to d net
btw, if u read my post i was jst askin for a lil education- thats all . in regards to ur question, yes i would, if she wasnt forming.
thanks Bruv- but dats d problem with the world today, dis young dudes feel trads are for d oldies forgetting that it shows class, opening doors for a chic b4 u enta wud be frowned at by kids( adebayo201,antartica, md4real, and co ) of dis days

Guy stop this b4 it gets too far, I thought this was a Joke
Let me add my 2pence into it this table manner of a thing we adopt its not our way in Africa even at that let me just correct you a bit there is no right or wrong way of holding your knife or fork on the table Ok, the Onus is on the Holder ie knife is for cutting so the dominating hand holds the knife.So if Mr KK is left handed that means the left hand holds the Knife if he is right handed it reverses same as chop sticks.There are loads of food the English eat with thier hands and others they will eat with a spoonThe  issue of table manners got nothing what sover to do with how you hold you knife spoon or fork rather it got loads to do with what food you eat with your hands,spoon, knives & fork.I have notice in Nigeria there are10 to 1 in left handed people so all we see arround are right  handed people so we assume everyone must hold the fork in the left hand nah for a left handed person this could be very akward.Table manners got to do with how you eat open/close ur mouth, how you drink, not frowing food about or chewing on bones bringing teh Dogg out in you  lol Ability to talk while eating without choking** Note in England its rude to eat in silence while in Nigeria its rude to chat while you eat*

Hey just saw ur post well first no ammount of money can buy you settlement visa or indefinate leave to stay the only prize is time anybody telling U any diffrent is fraud secondly U av frone an open question which has more the 1000 answers U said U av done ur research on here and other forums plz tell us what U found and what bit U dont understand so guys can put U fru.Im confident with giving U advice on settlement visa as I went fru it myself so will B speaking frm personal xperience gd luck

NYSC=Gradute=Uni students probability of being Cultist
Now tell me who fight brake bottles and fire guns inour campuses Jew Men or men who belong?And for you guys dragging Soyinka's name from all these if one forms and Organisation and has a peaceful propagand 10 yrs down the Line it becomes militrylized and lebbeled terorist wont the founder be called terorist too in as much as they wanna diassociate themselves from IT?

delpee:
The Pyrates Confraternity was a disciplined organisation. They came out in the open for major events on the campus to maintain order. Their "sailing" included walking the streets late at night with the street lights on so you could see them if you cared. Seems things went haywire in the early 80s when those who were rejected (according to those who claim to know) formed Eiye, Bucaneers etc. Pyrates stopped campus activities thereafter to avoid tarnishing their image. Unfortunately we still see all of them as having the difference of six and half a dozen.

WS certainly didnt set up a society that encourages senseless fights and murder.
WS certainly didnt set up a society that encourages senseless fights and murder.

This is how most Militrilized goups formed they all had peaceful agendas in teh begining clasic example Real IRA in N Ireland,Isbulah in Palesitine.

Nah its cos its a stupid system which does not serve any purpose, testing students on a level and standard that thier own teaching can never attain in 20 years.

nijanigga:
How do you know if the dude was writing exam and if he was writing exam,do you know that we have open book exam? by the way, is it a ticket for nijas to condole cheating in exams? This country will never move forward, see where we are today? We are doing the REVOLUTION of: cheating, scamming,fraud,robbery etc.Instead of confronting those looting the national treasury.Look at how the fuel subsidy strike fizzled out after NLC and TUC leaders got their own national cake.Only God knows, those that died in Ilorin and other places,may be died in vain.

Comments like these are true reflections of your mind state,I fail to think out of the box and see  the funny side and show your sense of humour,it a joke man don't associate the failurea of Nigeria with it

[quote author=baby-boy link=topic=866164.msg10161489#msg10161489 date=1328817557]Excuse me ?


YOu have said it all, but i stop talking, cos i realize that i am only talking into the basket of people that have determine to compare apple to puff puff, even better when they compare apple to oranges cos they are both fruits, but in this case na apple to puff puff . . . [/quote]SO let me ask you again, you came on here to say you shipped a car from the Uk at port of Tilbury for £440?

diluminati:
Disgusting Monopoly. Dangote, are you the only one who's gonna produce cement for the whole nation? are you the only cement manufacturer there is?

No he ain't, there loads of other, just smaller

So nobody use 504 about ? Lol

Anvaller:
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Shymmex

I tried as much as possible to understand you and I did. U are really angry at ur miseducation about where u come from but be careful not too misunderstand some other ppl here too. There is frustration on both sides and no matter how u slice it, frustration in Nigeria is greater than , (let's use U.K as a case study since there is where u grew up) so I say U.K

You are actually complaining about software problems such as stigma, morally degraded society, living on debts etc. I understand very clearly the ernomous psychological discomfort this can cause to anyone most especially as a kid growing up in the face of these adversities. But the problems in Nigeria are hardware, if there is no money, it means there is no money, if u can not buy a dunlop canvas even if it is cheap, it means u can't. There is no benefit anywhere, just try to imagine that.
Un-interestingly, Nigeria's problem is a combination of soft and hardware because the fact that u are Nigerian in Nigeria does not mean that u still dont face discrimination, stigmatization and even oppression. You can already have a feel of it here on Nairaland by trying to observe hostilities between Yorubas and Ibos just over trivial issues, the rich oppress the poor and we attach class to everything which in turn encourages stigmatization of almost anything. Imagine working in to an office and be treated like a worthless human being just because they have either observed that u are not of their tribe or that you are not wealthy enough to give them an impressive amount as bribe and so on and so on. So how saddening can it be when u experience these kind of rejections in ur own country. Remember also that our justice system is only functioning at the level of politics, once a common man is oppressed, u are oppressed, no justice. All these can damage anyone's psychological well being faster than the U.K situation.

For me, I am comfortable with ur argument that some ppl like to mis present life abroad as a kind of paradise but from my own experience, I think that the trend is no more popular, less and less ppl brag about being diasporans these days because ppl at home are sorting themselves out somehow and diaspora is getting more and more hardknock. But dont get furious at any Nigerian complaining about how Nigeria is not working because the reality is that Naija aint working and they have all the right to let out their frustration just like u are letting yours out too.

In my opinion, ur experience of U.K and Naija would have been very balanced if u were already an adult in Naija b4 going to U.K, in that way, u would have had a better understanding by ur onwself without having to live on the info mum and dad was feeding u with.

I am also trying to understand him too,I recon he is drifting away from the subject matter,just to add to what you've just said even if you own the whole Money in teh world, drive the mos xpensive car, you are still going to pass POT HOLES, you are still going to be vunorable to robbers,Power falure is going to affect you one way or the other.These are the HARDWARE problems we have over there as said by one previous poster

This topic have been argued b4 and here where the outcome, the word *first Seed applied to them farmers in teh Bible,who on thier first harvest would take teh best amongst the best to the house of the lord, the finance part of it as mentioned in the Bible was reffering to tithes.I know you wanna say that was then but now people work and earn money but people also farm

Sombody was saying on here that if you marry a bad wife you might be pressured to marry a 2nd cos of pressure etc, well thats why you have the option of DIvorce so you can both live diffrent lives more than one wife= Early grave in my book.

I live in London but know more about the ND than anyone who lives in Lagos, most people dont even know the coloue of crude Oil, just if you are thinking, its not BLAC K,

shymmex:
Olodumare will bless you, fam, I still have £10,000 student loan hanging around my neck - and these clowns don't even want me to pay everything off at once, A lot of Nigerian mums and dads out here have debt they can't even pay back for the rest of their lives, most will die with debts on their neck - is that really a good life

I don't even want to talk about the discrimination in so-called western world, just because you have a black skin, I don't let that hold me down but it's real - yet some clowns will come here and talk down on a place where people don't discriminate against you because of the colour of your skin - to hid their low self-self esteem, These are the same people that bow down to Serapus and Michael Angelo's picture ala white jesus - physical slavery is over - but mental slavery is alive,

How many British born/raised black graduates work in their fields in the UK I doubt it's up to 40%, In the UK you will find out going to University is just ceremonial but with a lot of DEBTS, Most graduates earn the same money someone working in a supermarket earns a month, Plumbers and handyman earn more than most UK graduates - yet these clowns will tell you it's paradise on earth,

We just need a revolution in Nigeria, and elect leaders that will serve the populace not western puppets - who only serve multinationals and their pockets,

Guy listen, do you know of have even thought of what would have happened if there was credit facilities to go to school on in Nigeria?See my Dada has been an accountant since the 80s and mum a teacher since 1985 if they where living in london with such qualification I bet I would have gone to a private Uni,but back home, not that theywhere not earning good money, the system is so unfair that you are left paralised,if you are a salary earner and have more than 2 kids in Uni,God help you.There is No C redit facilities.U need to B sombody to get Loans from the banks.I asked you a question earlier you failed to reply to it,I said if you where meant to top you electric a £1 a day on the 1st of this month you decided to put £30 on the 28th of this month your £28 has gone and you only had power for 15 days, what will you do? Im waiting your responce, cos that what guys back home face,this has nothing to do with politics.

Morning everyone,ahhh it was a cold night anyway back on topic

shymmex:
It's funny how clowns want to equate politics and foreign affairs with being connected to a place, I bet you during the last elections in America - I probably know more than most Americans know about their Country, Not everyone in a Country cares about politics and foreign affairs, but does that means they're not connected with what they experience living there on daily basis HELL NO!!! They're more connected because they feel it and experience it, not hearsay,

The funniest thing is that most of the people spewing this BS live in America - a Country with a highest numbers of ignorant people in the world, Most americans can't even show you where Mexico is on a map, Most Americans can even name all the states in the Country the live in, I bet you 70% of americans don't even know who their speaker of the house is, A lot of the so-called "diasporan" Nigerian just talk out of their arse, trust me,

In the UK most people don't even know who their MP is, does that they're not connected to the Country - and people living outside that know their MPs are more connected to the Country than them

Hey my friend, I though we where having a decent convo, no need calling you fellow bro or sist a clown,dnt 4get he who lacks in a certain area might be rich in others.

OK nah nah so we go dey dey?

shymmex:
Stop lying, you know how dire electricity and gas bills are in the UK, Do you think everyone can afford to pay the gas and electricity bills all the time?? why do you have bailiffs running after people to pay the money they owe??

At least you parents can afford to pay for your education, and they made the money living in Nigeria, Do you think if my parents can afford to pay for my education in the UK - they won't send me to a private school in the UK The problem is that they couldn't afford it, that's why my Nigerian friends and I went to the local schools where we don't have to pay, I bet there are free schools in Nigeria where people don't pay,

Universities go on strike in Nigeria, but y'all don't leave Uni with DEBTS you have to pay back for the rest of your lives, I still have my STUDENT LOANS I'm still paying back, just because I went to Uni, Do you have any debt on your name??

lol sorry to laugh but you are just proving my point,people have the money to pay 4 electricity, the problem is there is never electricity ie you pay for it but you dont see it,do we have power falure in the UK? I mean you put £10 in your meter ten days time its gone but you hade electricity for just 3 days? or you work 3 months and get paid just 1 and told you are being owed 2 months and dont know when you r gonna get the rest but still have to carry on working. and ther are no free school in Nigeria is either you pay and go or dont pay and get driven out of exam hall.Govt Unis r the cheapest but still its pay as you go no credit facilities if there was, everyone would be in Uni.saying there r free Universities in Nigerian=%100 Disconect as the Op said above.

shymmex:
I went to primary sch, secondary sch and Uni in London, I won't tell you my "tag" - I bet if I tell you and you ask any youth from Peckham, they will tell you I'm a triple OG ala Old peckham boy, Peckham is my home town!!!

We just need to start telling the truth to save the new generations of Nigerian kids, I'm planning to take my son to Lagos every year to see the beauty of the motherland - he's barely 2years old now, but I'll never feed him the lies our parents fed us,

ok from the aboved analysis, these opinions dont apply to you cos never paid for NEPA bill and not get electric or suffer the effects of bad roads in Nigeria, so lived a diffrent life from me,my parents paid for all my Education and school still wenton strike 4 ages, yours never did and ur schools never went on strike, deprivation goes far more than what you could ever imagine, you was talking of cheap trainers dunlop where in Nigeria kids had no sandals to school even at seceondary school level so you see its diffrent.

shymmex:
That's the problem with most Nigerians - how does watching the so-called news make you more informed?? News is about current affairs, and they print junks for profit, It's just like saying £1 = 250naira, and that automatically means anyone with £3000 in the UK will make you a rich man in Lagos - but is that the reality?? It's not when you get to Nigeria that you will know that your £3000 in the UK won't buy you the same thing in Lagos, Living a decent lifestyle in Lagos is arguably more expensive than Living a decent lifestyle in London - yet the media says 80% of Lagosians live on less than $2 a day - is that the reality in Lagos I found out a hard way when I visited Lagos 4years ago - I thought I was gonna live like a bigman in Lagos for two weeks with £1000 - the rest like they say is history, People just need to stop chatting air, trust me, STOP GASSING YOURSELVES!!!

This is like believing everything you see about America on TV, but everyone that's ever been to America knows that, this is not the REALITY in America, News is just make believe, Any clown can say Lagos is the shittest place in the world after watching that "Welcome to Lagos" bs on BBC - but is that the reality on the ground??

We just need to start telling ourselves the truth, and probably visit Nigeria - at least once a year, These are the same lies fed to Nigerian raised in UK by our parents, and most grew up thinking Nigeria was a hellhole, I remember growing up in the 90s, trust me - no one wanted to be Nigerian, you had to fake it and act Jamaican all the time, Afro-beats single handedly changed that trend - that's we need to commend people like Dbanj, 2face etc, If not Afro-beats, most Nigerians out here will never want to be associated with Nigeria - that will rather be anything else than Nigeria - either British or JAfrican, trust me,

Who wanted to be called a Nigeria in the 80s and 90s UK No one!!! I know of Nigerian families that changed their surname to English names - it was that bad, We need to stop living in our fantasy worlds, and get back to reality,

Some people on nairaland like KOBOMONKEY( I despise that character, sorry) shows a lot of symptoms synonymous to the 80s and 90s Nigerians in the UK,

If you was b orn i n Nigeria,gwent to school up to Uni level and came to the Uk when you was 24=26 yrs, would you hold such opinion?

jossy26:
Who cares if they are connected or not, after all, many have been there for years and understand perfectly well the ills Nigeria is facing today, yet, they have got nothing to do to it. So please stay put and enjoy ur diaspora

This does not inpute anything to this argument,gone are those days where people travel abroad and stay 20 years B4 comming back,most of us come home at least once a year now and things are still the same we got same problem in Nigeria,lack or personal development, we want the Govt to do everything.

mrmayor:
While it is true that you tend to Know what is Happening mostly from your easy access to  more information and you can post more on NL, there is however a world of Difference between[size=13pt] Knowing[/size] and [size=13pt]Experiencing. [/size]

A typical example is Knowing what is happening in your Village and actually Living and Experiencing the events in your Village.

Ok, granted you have better Data but the average Nigerian has a better grasp of the Nigerian Reality.

I strongly disagree with you,take me for example,i was Born in the SS, always moved B/w PH and sapele,my Uni days was in Enugu and my Uncle lived in Asaba so I spend hols there and another times in Lagos,I did NYC up in the North Binin kerbi, so i got to live evrywhere for a short time lol now I left 9j2000, and visit at least once now so are you going to say I have no expirience with what is going on in Nigeria? or have no knowledge of what is going on? you can only be connected properly in Nigweria if you are well exposed ie geting to compare the way of life in Nigeria with another ie another country then you would apreciate.

Make evrybody dey run thier mouth chey nah who dem catch be thief.