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Throwback:
Did I ever claim there was a Palestine territory that existed before the Romans sacked the Jews in the 1st century?

Palestine began to exist with the sacking of the Jews by the Romans in the 1st century till now, but you would have us believe that a nation called Israel continued to exist in the Middle-East from the time of Moses till the current Palestine conflict, yet you cannot show us a map form a year before 1948 with Israel on it.

Even when I used the analogy of Babylonia to explain to you like a child, that many kingdoms and empires that previously existed, no longer exist in the modern world, you still stick to your imaginary Israel that existed after its sacking by the Romans almost 2000yrs ago?

I asked you who were the leaders of this imaginary Israel nation that existed as Europe was also developing into kingdoms and democracies, but you cannot answer.

If this imaginary Israel existed, why were the Jewish Zionists buying land from the Arab natives of Palestine that the Jewish refugees from Europe later created Israel from in 1948?

You see stupidity and you choose to embrace it comfortably.

All you've been doing is a display of desperation while you are trying hard to make people fall in line with your foolishness

Efewestern:
Read what you just typed, and ask yourself if it makes any sense.

** Palestine already existed in that territory for about a 1,000 years, how can you say they were created to destroy some Jewish state (which state if I may ask?, Prior to 1948 was there any nation known as Isreal?). What you know as isreal today is an artificial creation by Bristish government

How can you people just come on social media to distort history and throw facts into the bin like this... Israel a creation of British government? Was there anything like British when Israel built The Pyramid of Egypt that is one of the 7 wonders of the ancient world today, thousands of years BCE? How come the same Israel is a ''creation by the British government''? What you typed, does it make sense to you?

Demmzy15:
The Jews weren't the first to get there, people who were there were massacred. And you deceptively tried to pin the exile of Jews on Muslims which is a huge deception. The Romans were the ones that chased many Jews out not Muslims, haven't you wondered why the Romans were in charge during the time of Christ?

After the departure of christ, the Jews revolted and they were defeated with thousands killed from both sides, the Romans exiled most of the men involved and their families. They then destroyed the temple, all this happened under Emperor Titus in 70 AD. Prophet Muhammad was born 500 years later, this same Romans who persecuted the Jews then embraced Christianity and were known as Byzantines. They persecuted Jews and other Christians like Nestorians, Arians and Copts.

It was Muslims in the 7th century as you rightly said that restored order when they took most parts of Palestine and Syria from the Byzantines. Jerusalem remained with Muslims for 400 years until the Byzantines invited the crusaders, I'm surprised you're praising the crusaders, you should read about what they did even in Jerusalem, you would be ashamed. The crusaders controlled Jerusalem for 86years and Muslims recovered it and controlled it till the first world war when the British took it over. Muslims gained control again and it was lost when Israel defeated Jordan in 1967.

But I'll tell you mehn, we would recover the lost lands again.

Must you try to ''recover'' it through terrorism? Are you not ashamed of yourself as your brothers in faith have unleashed terror and bloodshed on the world, even in Northern Nigeria and now the Middle Belt?

Throwback:
Kindly show us here a 1947 world map of the Middle-East, that shows anywhere called Israel. No state of Israel existed at the time the Arabs expanded into what was already known globally as Palestine. The current state of Israel was CREATED in 1948 from lands that the Jews had bought from Arabs within a territory that was populated by Arabs

The Greeks were the rulers of Egypt at a time of the dynasty of Ptolemy in the BC date era. Kindly show me where in Egypt is Greek today apart from the City of Alexandria that kept its Greek name as Jerusalem kept its historic Hebrew name, despite transitioning between many civilizations and ethnicities.

There is nothing like original owner of the land. The question is who was the current owner of the land in this modern world where many nations including USA and England exist on lands that were previously occupied by other tribes/nations.

In this modern world the current owners of Palestine were the majority tribe of native Arabs and sprinklings of minority native Jews. The majority Arabs trace their existence on the land to 100s of years. The takeover of Palestine by refugee Jews who Britain allowed to carve out the current country called Israel in 1948, is the sole reason for the conflict. A situation no other tribe or nation would allow on its territory, more-so when perpetrated by a refugee tribe whose claim is that their fore fathers whom the current occupants never met, used to once exist there almost 2000yrs earlier.


I ask you again, why were Jewish Zionists raising money in Europe and America to buy land from the Arabs who were the majority natives of Palestine?

I already gave you a historic village, Kfar Tavor (renamed from the Arabic, Meshah), that transitioned from being owned and populated by Arab Muslims, to being bought in 1901and owned and populated by Jews.

Yet you still want to argue with recent history.

So because the Anglo-Saxons are not the original occupants of England, are you saying a refugee tribe that is seeking asylum should go there and buy lands from the English and then try to carve out a country out of the existing area called England?

Are you also saying Black refugees should go and displace the Arabs in Egypt that they have occupied for about a 1000yrs?

The Arabs are the current owners of Palestine before a dispute ensued. They are the current owners that the Jewish refugees had to buy land from then formed a country that caused the dispute.

It should be the Jews begging for tolerance, accommodation and consideration.

You want a map before 1947 showing Israel? Then show us the map showing Palestine about 2000 BCE!

Intrepid01:
Lol...I can see you're trying so hard to show that you are educated but the more you try the more you convince informed people that you are not informed. The saga between the two states started in 1948 when the state of Israel was declared an independent state.

Ooh you also opined that I'm a muslim, ooh my geez, because my view does not support the Zionist state of Israel? You just continue to show that you're not informed. Disagreeing with you and not supporting Israel does not make one a muslim. I am a Christian and for your information, there are Christians in Palestine and Israel is not a Christian state....YOU REALLY DO HAVE A LOT TO LEARN!!!! my uninformed friend!...I'm busy here joor

If you like, you can support your terrorist friends for all I care. Imagine a Muslim senator raising the issue that Nigeria went to attend the opening ceremony of U.S in Jerusalem!! That's why those people in the senate are never taken serious by Nigerians, including the police. This is the same U.S that dontes 1billion dollars to Nigeria every year, out of which the thief would probably collect his constituency project windfall!! The same Israel and U.S that assist Nigeria in terms of security, armed forces and weapons to combat insurgency that the senaotr's brothers in faith have unleashed on Northern Nigeria and now Middle Belt. It is ignorance and only uninformed people like you and the Islamic fanatic senator who defend people that their only contribution to the world and humanity is terrorism, bombing, mayhem. If I should choose between who renders help to Nigeria with $1billion yearly and some Islamic fundamentalists who kill innocent people including children, then there can be only one choice.

Throwback:
You are finally beginning to discuss with historical viewpoints like someone who has been cured of the gross stupidity that religion causes.

Can you see what you typed yourself?

So after much studies that hopefully did not cause you a headache, you now know that current state of Israel was just created in 1948?

And are you still saying that Israel was the first owner of the land? The same land they committed genocide to the glory of God as they marched from Egypt to the promised land that was already occupied?

Are the European Caucasians the first owner of the land now known as the USA? Are the Anglo Saxons whom we call English, the first occupiers of what is now called England in Britain? Are the English the first occupiers of Australia?

So what relevance is there that the Jews once occupied the region later known as Palestine, when they themselves were not the first occupiers? Was it the Arabs that chased the Jews out of a land that they themselves committed genocide to occupy as reported in their religious books?

Of what relevance is the prehistoric occupation of Palestine by Jews to the current Arab occupants who have existed there for about 1000yrs?

Why were the Zionist Jews buying land from the Arabs to accommodate Jewish migrants relocating from Europe?

Since you have embraced knowledge and illumination, and freed yourself from the religious bondage of ignorance, can you please read up on this Jewish settlement called Kfar Tavor formerly know as an Arab settlement called Meshah.

As at 1881, census showed that Meshah was a village of 100 Arab Muslims only. Then after it was bought from the Arabs by the Jews in 1901, it was renamed to its present name of Kfar Tavor in 1903. By the 1922 census the village was recorded as having 274 Jews only.

That is the kind of changes that occurred, but even the Arabs are not challenging the Jews for the land they know that they sold to them. They are challenging why the British would have firstly even allowed the Jews to carve out a section of Palestine to form their country that even still comprises of Arab Muslim and Arab Christian natives. Secondly they are challenging the Israeli government's deliberate further encroachment into Arab territory of what was left of Palestine after Israel was created in 1948.

Read about the First Aliyah that brought migrant Jews to settle in such villages like Kfar Tavor, and read about the Jewish Colonization Association that oversaw this planned relocation of Jews to majority Arab occupied Palestine.

Read about the aftermath of the 2nd world war that led to Jewish refugees all flocking to Palestine to occupy lands the Zionists had bought in preparation for the eventual creation of Israel out of Palestine in 1948, and the continued migration of more and more Jewish refugees to that same territory.

Why is this guy trying to distort facts like this? Behave like someone who can read and comprehend for once and not someone who is intellectually deficient to understand a simple write-up for once! The write-up never said Israel was not in existence before, it rather said they were Jews and the STATE OF ISRAEL was declared an independent nation in 1948!! Israel's existence dates back to thousands of years BCE. You also ignorantly agreed said Israel and the Arabs were not original occupiers, when you formerly and wrongly said the Arabs were the original rightful owners of the land in dispute. Can you see you don't even know what you are saying? If Israel and Palestine were the both not original owners of the land, that they both migrated there as suggested by you, what now gives Palestine to start protesting because of an embassy that U.S moved somewhere?

Kophschmerzen:
Priceless coming from a loser with the IQ of a doorknob. In saner climes, it will still be legal to abort everyone in your bloodline.

Go ask your harl.ot mother why she decided against aborting you, she will tell you it was because your uncle also slept with her when your drunken, useless father just raped her. Ask the whor.£ you call mother how many times she was gangraped by dogs. So does this make you a chimera? Oh yes! You are no human but a bastar. D formed by both animal and human sperm.

Intrepid01:
You can be write about that. But one thing is certain from your posts on this thread, YOU ARE NOT INFORMED ON THE ISSUE OF PALESTINE-ISRAELI that has been on since 1948...I'll suggest you humble yourself and pick good books (books with unbiased opinion) on the issue. Maybe after then you would be able to make contributions devoid of emotions. Thank you Sir!

Oh I saw that word you used on me...It is also lending credence to the fact that you're not civil. Civilised people don't throw insults when they are called out. MR EDUCATED MAN you have a lot to learn, all of us though!

Oh look who's talking ''civil'' after calling people ''#uneducatedfools'' !!! I can see, that was very civil of you. For your information, it all started in the 19th century, probably in the beginning of the 19th century but the U.N tried to settle the rift in 1947, while Israel agreed to the settlement, your terrorist brothers rejected it and decided to start unleashing terror and mayhem on the world. It didn't start in 1948 as you ignorantly and foolishly claim, rather it was 1948 the Jews States declared independence of the State of Israel. Go and be educated.

Throwback:
Imagine a world that did not have the Israel-Palestine conflict. Imagine what peace the Middle-East and the world would have had?

Have you ever asked yourself why you never heard of Arab-Christian conflict in the modern world until the Israel-Palestinian conflict started?

Imagine if there was no American inspired conflict in any part of the world?

Even you wouldn't be this hateful and frustrated.

Religion has taken its toll on your reasoning and objectivity

Imagine how you have absconded from your argument of Jewish ownership of Arab land, only to settle for religious fanaticism and taken solace that your are fighting a religious cause that does not value Justice?

Every human is my brother, even if I don't share their religious belief. It is obvious you are a religious maniac not different from the Muslim terrorists you have been berating.

Continue to argue with history, and tell me how you would react if a refugee tribe comes to your village that has existed for 100s of years, and claim that their fore fathers that your own fore fathers never met there, are the original owners of the land so you should take your leave for their own takeover.

I ask you again to show you how shallow and empty headed you are, why where the Jews raising money all over Europe and USA to buy lands in Palestine from Arab land owners?

Why is it that most Jews cannot trace their history in Palestine beyond the 3rd/4th generation, beyond which they have to trace it to Ukraine, Poland and Austria?

Why is it that the first 5 Prime Ministers of the nation of Israel that did not exist in any world map before 1948, were all Jewish refugees from Eastern Europe?

Lastly, why are the white Americans the owners of USA they only began to occupy 300yrs ago? Why are the Anglo Saxons the owners of England they began to occupy about 1700yrs ago? Why are the English the owners of Australia and New Zealand that they began to occupy less than 400yrs ago?

So why are the Arabs not the owners of Palestine that they have occupied for over 1000yrs?

Can you prove that even your own tribe have occupied the village you lay claim to for up to 1000yrs?

So why is Palestine that accommodated Jewish refugees who had been buying land from the Arabs, be said to be owned by Israel that only existed after Jewish refugee settlement?

For once, spare your brain from the corruption and bias of religion and think like a reasoning human with a conscience.

If refugees can form their own country, why won't the recorded land owners who sold the Jews some of the land, form their own country in peace without Israel running like a puppet up and down to secure American support over their illegalities.

The only hope of Israel is USA and their continued partiality, beyond that they know they have to deal with a fair and impartial UN and EU who know more about the origins of the whole issue.

Stupid lies that you cooked up for the fools. Israel was the very first owner of the land which dates back thousands of years BCE!! When they faced war and were displaced, the Arab took the land in the 7th century and it remained in the Muslim control untill the crusade of 1099 which was followed by the Ottoman conquest in 1517. Later the Jews gathered themsleves in the 19th century and determined to return back to their rightful land and in 1947, United Nations lead a truce and partition for the Jews agency and the Arabs to divide the land and share Jerusalem between them. The Jews agency accepted the truce but the terrorist Arabs rejected it. In 1948, the Jews states declared the indepence of the State Of Israel! Since then, the terrorists have been waging an unending war with Israel and their brothers like you continue to wail. The irony of it though is that if lots like you were to leave Nigeria and choose to go to Israel or U.S that you hate so much, or go to Palestine or Iran, today, you hypocritic fools and nonentities would choose U.S or Israel!

funreadingbooks:
Please stop. You are disgracing intelligent Christians. The guy you are arguing with is telling the simple plain fact. Yes, according to the Bible the Israelites were given that land. But 2000 years ago, they killed the son of God and God punished them by destroying them and scattering them from the land. They can't come back 2000 years later and start to claim land that others have since settled on. That is why they had to buy the land from the current owners of the land in 1948.

Imagine some people came to your village in 1948 to buy land. Your elders sold to them. Then small small they start to encroach on land that you didn't sell to them. Then they establish their own government in your village and proclaim their independence. Will your village people accept?

You are the one who is bereft of inteligence and disgracing whatever you claim you represent. ''they establish their own government and proclaim independence''??... Seriously that's your won understanding of the matter?? You are a disgrace for not consulting history before coming here to display foolishness! If you like, you can join them in blowing themselves up because U.S decided to move an embassy somewhere.

Kophschmerzen:
You are an irritating brain dead piece of sh1t.

You are sufferring from bi-polar disorder and you've completely lost touch with reality you disgusting son of a whor.£

Intrepid01:
How many times are we gonna have this debate?....

It is rather disappointing to see well informed people like throwback arguing and exchanging words with people who practically know nothing about history. They are uneducated and likewise uninformed. Many of them don't even know their "dear israel" isn't a Christian Country. People like escodotman are gullible and are proud to confidently display their ignorance on a public forum...........

#uneducatedfools

The whole of your family including your father are not half as educated as I am. Bastar. D

Kophschmerzen:
Dude the man throwback buried you and the idiotic narrative you are peddling.

Another terrorist spotted

Throwback:
I am happy I shut you up.

No one can refute historical fact, except to console themselves with religious intolerance.

You are a Christian, so by delusion of religious fanaticism you must support Israel in its land grabbing.

At least your conscience can find peace that your stand is for the sake of religion.

You shut yourself up, together with your brothers in Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Northern Nigeria and so on. All you can do is make noise and terrorise the world. Imagine a world without Islam! You and your brothers can only wail and protest, like you've been doing in the Israel border since few days ago and if you are not satisfied, you then advance to blowing yourselves up. That's all you live for. That's what your quran teaches you. Terror! Terrorists!!

Throwback:
I brought up the Iran deal to show and prove that America will not always have support for its actions by other world powers who are its allies, and will not alwato prove so very effortlessly with a very recent political issue.

Maybe I was the one who created Israel in 1948.

I ou can continue arguing with history, but you cannot erase it.

After the present state of Israel was created in 1948, its first 5 Prime Ministers, starting from David Ben Gurion up to Golda Meir, were all migrants who were not born within Palestine, but were refugees from Ukraine, Poland, Russia, Austria, Germany etc.

Infact, they all changed their Slavic sounding names to sound Hebrew after arriving in the newly created Israel. And most Jews in Israel now, can only trace their origins inside Palestine to the 3rd or 4th generation, beyond which the traceability is directed outside towards Europe.

Meanwhile the Palestinians like Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abass, can trace their family's origin inside Palestine to over 20 generations before USA even existed, or Australia or New Zealand or Canada.

That the Jews existed at the time of Christ or in earlier times as part of the 12 tribes of Hebrew Israel, is no excuse for them to be grabbing land that currently belong to the Arabs.

Many countries and tribes that did not exist in blibical times now exist on land that belonged to some prehistoric people. Does it then mean that one day a tribe will begin to drag Egypt with the Arabs that migrated there over 1000yrs ago to occupy what had been previously occupied by Black Africans, the Greeks and later the Romans?

Will we one day see the Germans or French lose their land to some refugee tribe that will arrive and truly claim their own tribe once occupied those lands in prehistoric times or biblical times of the early Christian era, and is recorded in their own religious folklore?


Does the religious folklore of the Jews called holy books, not record that even the Hebrews were a genocidal army that exterminated tribes as they marched on to occupy the already occupied promised land and create the biblical Israel that had long ceased to exist upon Roman conquest, before the Arabs even expanded into what is now known as Palestine?

Indeed the current Jewish state of Israel was created in 1948 as the solution to the Jewish refugee crises of Europe, and the country was ruled by such Jewish refugees that arrived from Eastern Europe.


All of these are historical facts that even I as a Christian cannot refute, except I was a religious ass-licker like you.

I throwback your question at you since I never claimed the Arab Palestinians are the sole owners of the disputed Jerusalem.

Is Israel recognised by the international community to be the sole owner of Jerusalem, or to be legally occupying some of the land it has grabbed in its attempt to forcefully expand beyond the refugee boundaries it was granted in 1948 for which the country was thereby created and later recognised and admitted to the UN in 1949?

The point is why is the rest of the developed world opposed to USA giving a unilateral recognition to Israel over a Jerusalem that is still disputed and for which negotiations on the partitioning is still ongoing?

Why was the rest of the developed world absent at the USA embassy ceremony in Jerusalem? Why was the ceremony only attended by 3rd world countries that depend on grants and aids received from the USA?

Is the rest of the world wrong and USA is right?

Is the rest of Europe who know the origins of the Jewish refugee crisis that resulted to the creation of Israel in 1948 wrong?

Is Britain who had the UN mandate to oversee Palestine and that allowed the current undisputed boundary of Israel to be carved out of Palestine, wrong for not supporting USA in its unilateral decision?

Finally, why were the Zionist Jews raising money in Europe and America to buy Arab lands in Palestine at a time Israel did not exist and at a time they were advancing the agenda of relocating Jews in Europe to Palestine? Why will a tribe be buying land that you claim belonged to it, yet they were paying the Arab land owners? Till today, the Arabs have never disputed the lands they sold to the Jews, because they know they were duly paid for it. Their grouse remains that the Jews should never have been allowed to form a country within an Arab populated Palestine.

And if the Jews were allowed to form a country from Paelstine, why must the Arabs be prevented from forming a country for their own land of Palestine that they occupy? Why must the Jews continue to encroach further into Arab lands outside of the recognized boundary of Israel in 1948?

Facts and history are there in Egypt but Islamic terrorists won't agree. Just don't strap bomb around your body one day, if you do, make sure you only blow yourself up! Islam and the lies in the quran has blinded lots of them.

Throwback:
I brought up the Iran deal to show and prove that America will not always have support for its actions by other world powers who are its allies, and will not always be right.

Apparently, I achieved my goal, hence your distress that I was able to prove so very effortlessly with a very recent political issue.

Maybe I was the one who created Israel in 1948.

I can already see I am debating with an ignorant religious maniac. You can continue arguing with history, but you cannot erase it.

After the present state of Israel was created in 1948, its first 5 Prime Ministers, starting from David Ben Gurion up to Golda Meir, were all migrants who were not born within Palestine, but were refugees from Ukraine, Poland, Russia, Austria, Germany etc.

Infact, they all changed their Slavic sounding names to sound Hebrew after arriving in the newly created Israel. And most Jews in Israel now, can only trace their origins inside Palestine to the 3rd or 4th generation, beyond which the traceability is directed outside towards Europe.

Meanwhile the Palestinians like Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abass, can trace their family's origin inside Palestine to over 20 generations before USA even existed, or Australia or New Zealand or Canada.

That the Jews existed at the time of Christ or in earlier times as part of the 12 tribes of Hebrew Israel, is no excuse for them to be grabbing land that currently belong to the Arabs.

Many countries and tribes that did not exist in blibical times now exist on land that belonged to some prehistoric people. Does it then mean that one day a tribe will begin to drag Egypt with the Arabs that migrated there over 1000yrs ago to occupy what had been previously occupied by Black Africans, the Greeks and later the Romans?

Will we one day see the Germans or French lose their land to some refugee tribe that will arrive and truly claim their own tribe once occupied those lands in prehistoric times or biblical times of the early Christian era, and is recorded in their own religious folklore?


Does the religious folklore of the Jews called holy books, not record that even the Hebrews were a genocidal army that exterminated tribes as they marched on to occupy the already occupied promised land and create the biblical Israel that had long ceased to exist upon Roman conquest, before the Arabs even expanded into what is now known as Palestine?

Indeed the current Jewish state of Israel was created in 1948 as the solution to the Jewish refugee crises of Europe, and the country was ruled by such Jewish refugees that arrived from Eastern Europe.


All of these are historical facts that even I as a Christian cannot refute, except I was a religious ass-licker like you.

I throwback your question at you since I never claimed the Arab Palestinians are the sole owners of the disputed Jerusalem.

Is Israel recognised by the international community to be the sole owner of Jerusalem, or to be legally occupying some of the land it has grabbed in its attempt to forcefully expand beyond the refugee boundaries it was granted in 1948 for which the country was thereby created and later recognised and admitted to the UN in 1949?

The point is why is the rest of the developed world opposed to USA giving a unilateral recognition to Israel over a Jerusalem that is still disputed and for which negotiations on the partitioning is still ongoing?

Why was the rest of the developed world absent at the USA embassy ceremony in Jerusalem? Why was the ceremony only attended by 3rd world countries that depend on grants and aids received from the USA?

Is the rest of the world wrong and USA is right?

Is the rest of Europe who know the origins of the Jewish refugee crisis that resulted to the creation of Israel in 1948 wrong?

Is Britain who had the UN mandate to oversee Palestine and that allowed the current undisputed boundary of Israel to be carved out of Palestine, wrong for not supporting USA in its unilateral decision?

Finally, why were the Zionist Jews raising money in Europe and America to buy Arab lands in Palestine at a time Israel did not exist and at a time they were advancing the agenda of relocating Jews in Europe to Palestine? Why will a tribe be buying land that you claim belonged to it, yet they were paying the Arab land owners? Till today, the Arabs have never disputed the lands they sold to the Jews, because they know they were duly paid for it. Their grouse remains that the Jews should never have been allowed to form a country within an Arab populated Palestine.

And if the Jews were allowed to form a country from Paelstine, why must the Arabs be prevented from forming a country for their own land of Palestine that they occupy? Why must the Jews continue to encroach further into Arab lands outside of the recognized boundary of Israel in 1948?

Continuing to argue to Islamic fanatics like you is a lost cause.

Throwback:
Cameroun has been rightly decided legally to be the owner of Bakassi. The Europeans carved out the countries in Africa, and their documents already suggest that Bakassi is part of Cameroun, so enough of the complaint over what you never put in place to begin with.

Why would I complain over how such judgement was given by the world court that relied on documentary evidence?

The people of Bakassi own their land, but the land is within the territorial boundary of Cameroun. So the people should have accepted to become Camerounians after the judgment, just as some other villages along the Northern borders with Cameroun were also swapped in both directions between the 2 contesting countries.

Palestine is the owner of their section of Jerusalem while Israel is the owner of its own occupied section.

Even till now, the Jews themselves know that they cannot claim ownership of all of Jerusalem.

It is the Jews that modern history of the last 150yrs records as having migrated to the region known as Palestine to buy lands from the land owning Arabs who were the majority on the land, with a very insignificant minority Jews existing.

The Jews were allowed to form the present Israel from the land of Palestine, as war refugees who had escaped the persecutions in Europe and as Zionist migrant who had bought various parcels of land from the Arab land owners.

And upon forming their own nation state, have prevented the native Palestinians from having a country of their own on their own land that they have existed for over a thousand years, long before the Europeans formed USA or the Anglo-Saxons departed mainland Europe to dominate as the present English over the original Britons of Britain. Even long before the English settled in New Zealand or Australia, the Arabs have existed as the natives of Palestine with no country or nation called Israel existing. Also long before the Jewish refugees began arriving from Ukraine, Poland, Austria etc

If the current nation of Israel was allowed to exist as a creation of post world war 2 Jewish refugee crisis, why not remain within the undisputed boundaries of that nation. Why extend into Arab lands that were never sold to Jewish Zionists that planned to establish Israel and that were never populated by the minority Jews that also were native to Palestine before the Zionism agenda started?

Why must the land grabbing by the refugee Jews be tolerated after they had been allowed to establish a nation inside Palestine, within a boundary that was not contested with them?

Drop the religious garb and embrace objectivity in your argument.

Or are you saying that even Israel is mad to admit that Eastern Jerusalem is a territory of the Arab Palestine?

Ask yourself a simple question. What has stopped Israel from occupying the whole of Jerusalem as a capital city since the current state of Israel had been created since 1948 after the 2nd world war Jewish refugee crisis?

It is you who should be objective in your arguments and stop being religiously biased. Why did you bring up the Iran deal into the arguemnt? It only prove that you are against everything you feel it's an injustice done against all these Arab nations. Your arguments are wrong and very funny. You calim Palestine have been on the land a thousand years and Israel was ''created in 1948'', LIES! LIES!! Israel have been in existence many tens of thousand of years ago before Israel left Egypt, the facts and truth are there in Egypt based on history and FACTS, you only need to visit Egypt and see the footprints Israel left there after their slavery, I mean the pyramid of Egypt which today is one the 7 WONDERS OF ANCIENT WORLD. So I must admit I'm quite amazed you could come on social media to spread lies and confuse people by trying to distort and change history by saying Israel was ''CREATED'' in 1948, this is mischievious! You said the international community has recognise Cameroun to be the onwer of Bakassi, has the internationa community recognise Palestine to be sole owner of the whole of Jerusalem? The point is still; why are you angry that U.S moved an embasy to Jerusalem by deciding to recongnise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel... You constanly refer to Israel to ''as Jewish reguee'', but isn't it better than a terrorist Palentinians? Islam should not blind some people from seeing the truth.

Throwback:
So if US is a sovereign country, they must prevent the sovereignty of others on their own land that they have long existed on without break, long before the Europeans sailed to the Americas to equally displace the land owning native Americans/Red Indians to establish the present USA?

I am an objective citizen of the world, not an asslicker of USA, Jews, Arab, Islam or Christianity.

I have no idea what you mean by ''others on their own land''. What gives you the empetus that Palestine is the right owner of Jerusalem? The Bible and history tell us a different story! Russia is claiming today Crimea is part of their country and they've occupied it but the world is watching. Cameroun have claimed Bakassi from Nigeria and nothing has happened! Two countries claiming territories dates back to many years ago and can't be blaiming U.S for moving an embassy to somewhere, that should be your last concern. Have you gone vocal or protested Cameroun occupation of Bakassi. You even mentioned the Iran deal, really? Stop sounding like an Islamic ass licker and get your facts right.

madridguy:
I hope your gullible brothers won't call for your head for this.

What makes someone gullible?

Throwback:
I can only manage to read between the obvious stupidity and deliberate foolishness that many critics believe is justified to ensure that Buhari does not win a second term, which I do not even believe he deserves.

How people suppress their rational thought to embrace and espouse the aimless propaganda they attempt to further on online fora, is really mind boggling for me.

It has become an epidemic of stupidity.

I ask again, is the rest of the industrialised and free world Islamic, for not recognizing the fool hardy decisions of America as regards the Jerusalem embassy move or the Iran nuclear deal.

I don't care about the perception of some people about the denial of FG on the Jerusalem move but stop attacking U.S viciously like that in your comments, because U.S is a sovreign country, it only makes you sound like an angry Muslim.

ninetiethcrown7:
Jerusalem is just a piece of the pie, in the Israel - Palestine conflict.

My only headache is why does israel not want Palestine to become a country?

Your headache? Have you taken panadol?

salvation101:
if there is a spike in global terrorism, it will affect everywhere. If Muslims believe this action is an attack on their religion, don't u think more will enlist to fight their "holy war"

They've been fighting the so-called ''holy war'' probably before you were born! Including their bothers in Nigeria (boko haram). The Jerusalem embassy will not change them.

ninetiethcrown7:
How is it great news... is it because people are dead or because they are muslim.

It's unfortuante but why are Muslims always formenting trouble?

sarrki:
N tell me where you find those you are referring to

Aside infants

They are right there in Buhari's kitchen cabinet as ministers and cabals

greatiyk4u:
How did the rejected man win in the first place?
Fayose only enjoyed GEJ fictitious good will backed up by Federal might..............

Fayemi will even win this one with ease same way it happened in Ondo

Fayemi won ''in the first place'' because people didn't know who he is, the same way Buhari also won. He was rejected the second time he contested. He is still worst governor ever in history since the creation of Ekiti state. If you have relatives in Ekiti or live there yourself, you'd know that. How else do you explain Fayemi not winning even in his town!!

Kyase:
Watch and see how fayemi will win.
But after that dont come here and complain of rigging....

Even if he rigs, he won't still win. This is a rejected man who didn't even win his own town when he wanted to go for second term against Fayose. He is a rejected man in Ekiti.

sarrki:
All Nigerian politicians as it stands today only care about the financial interests

No politician aside Pmb today fights for the common man.

You may not agree with me

Even the opposition party can attest to this fact
He may not be perfect in his words

Eg The 95% statement but I can attest that he’s not like any politician in Nigeria that amass wealth true public office

I can’t vouch for any other person around him coz of the Nigerian factor of I must get rich instantly in us.

Mr man, stop saying you can vouch for someone you've never spent a day with, not so for someone who was desperate to attain a political office for more than 10years. Even if he is good like you painted him, he is surrounded by very corrupt people who have embezzled and looted their states and various offices they've held in the past.

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The worst IGP in the history of Nigeria.