Where would land be cheapest at, on the outskirts of Ibadan (towards either AbeOkuta or Ijebu Ode) or the outskirts of Ijebu Ode (towards Ibadan or Abeokuta)?

What is the going rate for 2 to 5 acres of land in these areas?

Lax75:


@ EuroMeko : That's why I emphasize on get[/b]ting [b]that blue passport. For example, you want to go into the mechanized farming industry, think of all the places in the world you can travel to w/out needing a visa where you could source for ideas, materials, equipment, etc. Simply because you get yankee passport. Here's a link that will show you all the places you can travel to w/out needing a visa as a yankee citizen.

http://visacenter.com/visa-quick-check.php

Done 

I have been invited to China early next year by a Nigerian mentor that lives there. Not looking to import goods for sale as we already have an influx but to look for machinery.

Form I-9 kinda killed the illegal work thing here for foreigners, within 3 days the employer will get feedback from the INS if you're allowed to work or not. It became even more furious after 911.

Even with all the challenges in Nigeria I can't wait to be back at home. Our sojourn in US prepares us to be abel to deal with adversity and to be creative. My plan is to be on the ground every 6 months for a month until I accomplish my 3 - 5 year plan of being in Nigeria for 9 months out of the year. I'm choosing the stepped return approach.

My biggest challenge is still looking for  land for farming, I need to lease it (American ingenuity - wink), it's insane and deplorabel to see the types of stuff that we are importing into Nigeria when we can make it at home.

@ OP, here is your example of two people in the US that can't wait to come back home. You have an advantage over us, you're there already. You know the system better than we do, you know all the Alhadjis, Omo Onile stuff that we still have to relearn.

Lax75:


All the best brother.

Are you still in SD? I may be coming down to San Clemente to pick up a car in the afternoon, maybe we can get some beers.

Based strictly on the information you have provided I give you "my" opinions.

A quick story/joke. Rich American CEO went on vacation to a small fishing village in Mexico to get away from it all and relax. He is lounging there with his other rich buddies watching this "poor" Mexican Fisherman sitting in front of his hamlet watching his kids play while drinking a Corona (beer).

Rich CEO asked him "Fisherman, why aren't you out fishing"
Fisherman "I already went fishing in the morning Senor, I already caught enough fish to feed my family, keep some for tomorrow, and sold a few for money."
Perturbed, the CEO retorted "Man, there are more fishes out there, you can catch more, you can get a fleet of boats, hire more people to fish for you, set up a distribution enterprise"
Fisherman "What for, what can I gain"
CEO "Then you can become rich so you can retire early, move to a paradise and enjoy your life with your children"
Fisherman "I am already relaxed, I am living in a small fishing village that is paradise, you came here after all Senor and I am enjoying my kids - so Senor, I think I am already rich by your definition, Si?"

My short answer, stay in Nigeria. Make it work.

Instead of leaving Nigeria maybe you can think Entrepreneurial and have Mrs. BeeMan80 manage that one while you continue working and growing at your cool job.

I am not going to lie to you and my viewpoint differs from others already on this thread, the US is a beautiful place to live, but it comes at a price. We have social services. There is a team of professional and highly trained medical personel that will rush at breakneck speed to save my life by just dialing 911 on the phone, there's  a team of highly trained police officers that will come to my aid 24/7 just by calling them (no brining the Commissioner), so it is relative.

So to close, as Men we have to do what we have to do, but if you really have a cool job in Nigeria as you stated, I would just make it work but your Wife is part of that equation.

Jah Guide.

Yo can purchase mil spec equipment here in the US at Army surplus stores. We used to buy even more really cool stuff until 911 - sigh.

Magnum is fine and is the epitome of hand guns but it is a bit heavy these days. You should put a few rounds through a Walther PSS if you ever get the chance. The 9mm version is what I have, it's slim for concealed carry but still delivers it's ordinance with accuracy. PSS stands for Police Special Slim, so you'll find a lot of Law Enforcement carrying it as their backup weapon. It's also very light and has adjustable grip.

If allowed I would for sure like to bring my AK but I understand if it's on a ban list even for Nigeria - lol

My Niece is the Marine.

Anyways, let me know what you find. I really wish there was an official website for these rules because I can start selling of my stash if I can't being them in.

tpia@:

Geez, i'm not sure people understand how some things they say are coming across on this forum.

Euromeko, its not everything that needs to be talked about. Nigerian men in particular have this very nasty habit of badmouthing women and its quite regrettable.

Now, imagine a group of white guys banding together and deciding they're too good for white women, or say a bunch of latino males saying latino women arent good enough for them.

Why are black men the only ones who say such things openly as a group and feel no shame while doing so.

I think your reason for not wanting to date black women has more to do with your long sojourn abroad and maybe your needing some sort of acceptance from a target group, than anything else. For some, acceptance means green card or papers while for others it entails breaking into the white community or something like that. Hope you catch my drift.

But common sense would tell anyone there's no need to run down a whole group as if no other set has issues they deal with.

and btw stick with white ladies, if you've been dating them for 20 or 30 years. Its too late now to try to go back to nigerian or black women.

I have no issues with you but I need to correct you on a few things.

First, these wasn't a thread about me and most especially I am not soliciting opinions on my love life, though you are free to render them as you did.

My common sense is exactly what dictated to me to stay away from Nigerian Women for a long time. It worked for me, my choice, you don't have to like it.

The one Nigerian Lady I dated was actually an American Citizen which was many moons ago. I did not become a US Citizen until about 3 years ago, so for almost 27 years that I was dating it wasn't because I was looking for Green card as you veily suggested. There is as such as actually loving another human being and not just being a means to an end.

As far as what you consider breach of privacy on my part, trust me, no privacy was breach, don't go believing everything you read on the web, even from me.

I do have a bone of contention though, you lambasted me for badmouthing Nigerian Women. Please quote me on when or how I did that. Refusal to date a certain sector of the dating pool doesn't mean that they are necessarily bad. Choosing one over another doesn't signify that one is bad. I don't buy cream colored vehicles as an example but a silver Evo IX is the same performacne as a red Evo IX. Life is about choices, I make mine and I sleep well, very well at night.

Have a nice evening, I just had one as I watched my team, Los Angeles Galaxy put a beating on San Jose Earthquakes, it's a good day.

PS: On that note, I do believe that I am done with this thread. I've done my job, I've stood up against the onslaught of feminist whose sole agenda is to demean Nigerian Men, at least for the day.

Mrs.Chima:

You see how I was able to engage you in my "worthless" conversations you claimed you detest?



LMAO@pleep still steaming

Clunk, clunk, clunk the car go!

Quote me where I used the word detest. I bet you can't.

You didn't even know the service you provided for me this afternoon lol

Mrs.Chima:

Duties or life?  You do know the difference right?  Never mind.  It would too much thinking power for you.  

Adios Mr. Divorce'

I've heard that before from you, just a mere 3 minutes and you already changed your mind

By the way have you noticed how I was able to engage you for most of the afternoon without a single word of insult from me?

Mrs.Chima:

This is coming from a guy who has a business and wealthy. You sure have a lot of free time as a business owner.

I thought you were leaving to perform your world saving duties?       

Mrs.Chima:

Oh wait!  Did I insulted you by saying you swings like a girl?  Oh well. 


Alrighty cry boys gotta go.  I have a offline life to attend to.    

See you when I see ya. 

Mr. Divorce', there are several errors on this post.  Find it and I will treat you to a doggie biscuit.  

Ah, still holding on to that Divorcee title like a crown, it's nothing to be ashamed of  

I knew you'll claim to have to run of sooner or later, bet you're still online though

Mrs.Chima:

Overly sensitive huh?  Not a good trait for an older Nigerian man.  Missing a ball?  

There you go, I feel much better  

Mrs.Chima:

Hmm. Your thoughts have failed you huh?  Remember you was preaching about people should intermingle whoever they want regardless of race now you upset that I rather be educated by an Non-African?  Contradiction eh?

What happened to that "my circle supports diversity"?  It was a lie huh?  

Your entire debate has been accusing me of having inferiority complex, yet you are now stating that non Africans are better educators. Have you heard the terms, kettle and black?

Mrs.Chima:

Don't worry I rather be educated by non-African.     I guess calling your friends culos were insulting you huh?  

By the way, you are insulting yourself just fine.  You don't need my help.  

Not really, they can stand for themselves, it is cowardly though to attack people that cannot be thre to defend themselves  

Oh wait, so now a non African is more educative? Na wa for you Mrs. Chima, I thought you were Mrs. Pan African herself? You're letting me down.

Excellent.

But remember, it is not my job to educate you though so don't go into another tirade if I don't correct you.

By the way, where's the love, you haven't made a lame attempt to insult me in the last 15 seconds

Mrs.Chima:

Yeah right and yet you still responding to my "worthless" posts. I see lying is your strongest suit eh?

Oh I'll respond to each and every one of your posts my Dear, on this thread.

Like I said I'm glad that I got you to pay attention to grammar  

Mrs.Chima:

I am glad it boosted your self esteem up a notch.     Low self esteem is a mofo eh. 

Glad my posts were of service. It didn't pay a bill but it kept you busy.

Sorry to disappoint you but you have added nothing of any worth. Well, wait, you are helping me test an internet connection

I wouldn't know about low self esteem since I don't have that issue but you seem to be an expert on that dilemma

Mrs.Chima:


Why would I be hurt that you are divorced?  You the one should be embarrassed being Nigerian and a divorce' according to you.  Divorce supposed to be an American thing.   

Excellent, nice to see a non quitter 

Why would I be embarrassed? I'm good  Nigerians divorce too, I could post links but you'll dismiss them anyways and it's not my job to educate you.

Mrs.Chima:

Who else you told that lie to?  You have too many commas in your sentences.   Periods scare you huh? 

What lie?

I'm happy to see that you're finally paying attention to grammar.

Mrs.Chima:

Glad you have time to proof writing styles.  Did it pay your bills?   Glad it shows then you wouldn't have anything else to do.     Did you find any more errors?

Actually it does - 
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Jenifa_:


just be prepared to spend money to atone for your sins (you're just too old).

Ah, I am a sinner now   

I am just flabbergasted that someone with so much hatred can claim religion at whim 

PS: I thought you were leaving?

Jenifa_:

right. and now that you don't have choices anymore and oyinbo women have left you. Nigerian women have all of a sudden become respectful "sistas"
I won't waste my time talking to an old pig. Like I said, goodluck finding a mugu. have a nice day.

Awww, you're running off already? I didn't think it would be so soon 

Sigh, maybe Mrs. Chima can find energy left to continue 

PS: Luv, I live in Los Angeles, a hotbed of International community, my choice to seek a relationship with a Nigerian Woman is another choice I am making. You seem to have a problem with people who have the wherewithal to make choices. Have you been described as a control freak before?

Jenifa_:

re-read my post. I have replaced white with oyinbo.
now what comment do u have?

to me, you and your friends are suffering from inferiority complex. you are not oyinbo and will never be. srry. the earlier you realize it the better.

Understood, I will not take a difference to your own personal opinion, even if it's not valid.

We weren't aware that we were trying to change our race by choosing to not date a certain pool of Women - interesting an analogy and sheer amazing how you deduced that. We will discuss this at our next meeting and I am sure there will be much laughter

Mrs.Chima:

I would say the same thing for you but the difference between YOU AND I-----I don't take time proofing writing style[/b]s.  You need to find another way to boost your esteem up boo boo.  

You can do it.  

Trust me it shows.

Jenifa_:

while his friends were settling down and getting married, he was busy chasing oyinbos. feeling proud and accomplished. [b]he even had the audacity to say he preferred not to date nigerian and blacks. he is obviously thinking in his mind that nigerian and black women were inferior.
now in his 50sand the oyinbo women are gone, his divorced Bottom is looking for a nigerian mugu. goodluck finding one without a good sized wallet to back u up.

I said that (the only thing you've managed to quote correctly during this debate) No, I always love and respect my Nigeria Sisters and I never claimed that they were inferior. I just chose not to date them, a fact that is making you run around in circles

Jenifa_:

rotfl. you're going to kill me with laughter

It is a very funny thread, I agree. I am having major fun here.

Mrs.Chima:

What do you expect from a man who decided to go back to Nigerian women after the EX left him?  

Is that formulated enough for you Mr. Divorce'?

Awwww, you're hurt - lol

Yes, I am and I wear that badge of honour proudly. I am in good company as a divorced Man (by the way, I posted this publicly so how can I be ashamed?), Prince Charles, ex Vice President Gore, etc

Excellent thread.

I am very interested in seeing larger scale solar or even win power scheme.

I would love to not even engage NEPA on my future farm.

Jenifa_:


that's what inferiority complex does to ppl.
I only hear that kind of talk from immature, irresponsible black guys in their 20s and 30s. most of them don't even have a single white male friend. but yet they say they feel more comfortable with white people.
if you are so comfortable with females of other races, how come you don't feel comfortable with their men? obviously it's a superficial comfort stemming from inferiority complex.

this one is a fool at 50.   and his eyes are probably just starting to open now that he is senile. too little too late.

AH, white people 

Clearly I've struck a nerve with both of you as you can't stop trying to impress me with how much you are disconnected with reality.

Regardless of the FACT that you have no proof of my age you still continiue to titilate yourself with assumptions about my age  but this is why the mental medical field is a roaring industry. Unfortuntely many of our people do not understand that many of this schizophrenic tendencies can be treated with medicine or therapy.

Just because my social circle had chosen in the past to not date African American Women does not mean that we prefer "White" Women, there are other nationalities in the world that is avaialle in our dating pool that are not "White" people. Yet you accuse me of inferiority complex 

Inferior to who or what exactly, you? The only arguments you have mounted so far is a perceived attack on my character which is laughable at best.

You used the word Culo, what manner of a prized Woman would use that word? Clearly not the ones any man of substance would be interested in, hence the OPs issue by starting this thread.

Mrs.Chima:

So if you wasn't in America and in Nigeria you think you would still be married?  

LMAO@I lived in a country where divorce is promoted so I went along with trend.   

Aww, come on Mrs. Chima, you're letting me down, you're supposed to come back with more inflammatory remark than that, come on reach in and pull a relaly good one out 

Mrs.Chima:

I see what you are talking about after all he and his "culos" do not date Nigerian nor Black American woman but he thinking about dating Nigerian women now.  Hmm.  It does sound a little desperado. 

I believe that desperado and desperate are the same so no new point for that 

Your command of the language is also starting to slip, firm it up and don't let me down now.

Mrs.Chima:

So if you wasn't in America and in Nigeria you think you would still be married?  

LMAO@I lived in a country where divorce is promoted so I went along with trend.   

Come on now, try to keep control of your sentence formation. You can do it.

But seriously you are confusing me, you said that "my Oyibo Ex Wife left me" now you're saying that I went along with the trend? At least be of a firm resolution in your convitions, even as ridiculous as they may be, I'll respect you for them.

Jenifa_:

it's so obvious. the guy is in his 50s. all of a sudden he is now interested in Nigerian women. after he explicitly said he chose not to date nigerian women.
he is desperate!   his oyinbo left him

he wants to eat his cake and have it.

Ah, desperate, the new word

Jenifa_:


no kidding.  
what a pathetic old fool.

goodluck trying to gain the respect of a nigerian woman.


lol. I thought I was the only one who found that comment ridiculous.

Sorry, I've already being called old and fool, so no point for that but hey pathetic I think is new but will have to check

Mrs.Chima:

He has an ex wife? That's not the Nigerian way!

Of course not, the Nigerian was is to beat them up like Pinata and run away like the OP stated right?

Jenifa_:

I will ask a question if i deem fit.
you're welcome.

so why did your oyibo ex-wife leave you?

Excellent, I'm glad we're finally making some headway here.

I leave in a country where over 50% of marriages ends in divorce. That's just a fact of life and not a shameful thing, if that's your intention  

Mrs.Chima:

Your circle of friends are culos because I chose to call them that.  I wouldn't care if you did or didn't and  don't take CHAT serious.  I suggest you try it.  

As for lowly, you beat me to the punch in that department.  

What gave you any hint that I am taking this any serious at all? Come on, don't start getting all self important on me Chica.

Mrs.Chima:

He is not Black American.  "Educated" Black American men do not speak like that.  

Ah, new uplifting word, I am now "uneducated"  

Jenifa_:

lol.
what a fool he is.

Ah, a fool  

Very uplifting, thanks.

Jenifa_:

where do u get the term "gold digger" from anyway. and "sister"
i'm starting to believe you are not nigerian at all. but an african american.


rotfl.
your agemates are aristos in lagos. those r d folks u will be competing with.
i'm just trying to help you out here.

Are you capable of asking a direct question?

Thanks for the unsolicited help  

Mrs.Chima:

None of the culos aren't intimidated by a black woman in your group but have reasons why you guys chose not to date Nigerian and Black American women.  Hmm. 

It's all good.  Nothing being missed.  

Ah, so my circle of friends are all "culos" because we chose not to date/marry Black American / Nigerian Women. I see.

I would say okay, Puta, but I cannot insult a Woman no matter how lowly she carries herself.

Jenifa_ asked what exactly?

I don't like to assume but I will assume that you meant my age.

If so, I did answer her and here is a quote:

My age is irrelevant to this topic - I fail to see the editorial value, and I have conducted myself in a matured manner on this thread.

I'm not sure the relevance of age to an online debate.