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seanet02:
Nil IQ

Go hug a high tension cable. You seanet of all people talking about IQ? You are a known potential FOOL.

Yorubas that will vote for IBB will vote for him. The earlier you realize this, the less of a DORK you make yourself.

Yorubas that will vote for IBB will do so and there's nothing anyone is going to do about it. So what's the fuss? You only need to speak for yourself. This is a democracy- not 'crowdocracy'. In the SE, we dont give a dawn.

@ OP

This should have been posted in culture. The topic is clean and there's nothing tribalistic in your thread. You only wanted to know more about them.


The only negative thing i heard about them is that they believe so much in animism and Juju(not all of them, though). They are quite similar to Yorubas and assimilate easily into any Yoruba society.


But i still prefer their neighbouring Igala women to them.

Jonathan should go and sit down. What does he take Ndigbo for? His political toys?

I'm not fan of this supposedly 'southern unity' against the North. This is a false and non-existent concept. Let's stop pretending we are one.

No one should drag Ndigbo into this falsehood. The fact remains that Igbos don't give a rat's a.rse who rules Nigeria as long as he has the best programmes for us as a people. If the North floors Jonathan, fine. If Jonathan can pull it through, that will be equally great. We just dont care.

We will form alliances only with those who have dealt with us in honesty in the past and will not allow ourselves to be put into a fight that is none of our business.

I'm not fan of this supposedly 'southern unity' against the North. This is a false and non-existent concept. Let's stop pretending we are one.

No one should drag Ndigbo into this falsehood. The fact remains that Igbos don't give a rat's a.rse who rules Nigeria as long as he has the best programmes for us as a people. If the North floors Jonathan, fine. If Jonathan can pull it through, that will be equally great. We just dont care.

We will form alliances only with those who have dealt with us in honesty in the past and will not allow ourselves to be put into a fight that is none of our business.

@ OP

God will punish you if you dont provide evidence or link for this rubbish you said about Ngwa? Do you know what you are doing? You are dragging the name of the largest Igbo clan into the mud for no just reason. Except you provide concrete proof of this, this curse will never leave you.

What is the name of that restaurant in Umuahia? Why not say it so that you can be exposed.

You base your allegation on what a friend told you. How did your friend know of it if he wasn't involved in it himself?

Are these legislators representing the masses or the elite? Will this not encourage getting into political offices at all cost and by any means?

•Jumai Tafawa-Balewa, Victoria
Aguiyi-Ironsi, Ajoke Muhammed,
Maryam Abacha, Turai Yar ’Adua,
other ex-First Ladies to be paid
until their death
Sanya Adejokun, Abuja
FORMER military Heads of State
got a major victory yesterday as
the Senate announced the
decision of the National
Assembly to remunerate them,
alongside their civilian
counterparts, including family
members, until the death of their
last wives.
The Upper Chamber declared
that all the 14 Commanders-in-
Chief since 1960 would be
remunerated, brushing aside
views of opponents of military
rule .
For those who are dead, family
members will continue to enjoy
the benefits, which would have
gone to their breadwinners,
while their wives will collect their
gratuities.
The list includes the late Alhaji
Abubakar Tafawa-Balewa; the
late Major-General Johnson
Thomas Umunakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi;
General Yakubu Gowon (rtd); the
late General Murtala
Muhammed; General Olusegun
Obasanjo (rtd); Alhaji Shehu
Shagari; Major-General
Muhammadu Buhari (rtd);
General Ibrahim Babangida (rtd);
Chief Ernest Shonekan; the late
General Sani Abacha; General
Abdulsalami Abubakar (rtd); the
late Alhaji Umaru Musa Yar ’Adua
and the incumbent President
Goodluck Jonathan.
Wives of those who are dead
include Hajia Jumai Tafawa-
Balewa; Mrs. Victoria Aguiyi-
Ironsi; Mrs. Ajoke Muhammed;
Mrs. Maryam Abacha and Hajia
Turai Yar ’Adua.
In the report of the Conference
Committee on Remuneration for
Former Presidents, Heads of
State, Heads of Federal
Legislative Houses and Chief
Justices of the Federation
adopted, an upkeep allowance
would be paid to former Senate
Presidents, their deputies, former
Speakers of the House of
Representatives and their
deputies and the Chief Justice of
the Federation as decided by the
Revenue Mobilisation Allocation
and Fiscal Commission (RMAFC)
and approved by the National
Assembly.
The report, which came back
from the conference committee
of the two legislative chambers,
was a complete turn around
from what left the Senate last
March when it passed the bill
which provisions forbade giving
entitlements to former military
rulers so as to, according to the
Senate President, David Mark,
“ discourage other ways of
getting into power through
unconstitutional means. The only
way recognised by the
Constitution is through the ballot
box and not through the barrel
of the gun. ”
When the report was read
yesterday by the Chairman of
the Senate Committee on
National Planning, Economic
Affairs and Poverty Alleviation,
Hajia Zainab Kure, many
Senators showed intention to
raise objection to it but Mark
disallowed all, insisting that
comments and observations
would be redundant.
Should President Goodluck
Jonathan assent to the bill, all
former Heads of State including
Presidents, Prime Ministers,
military leaders and the Head of
Interim National Government,
including their deputies, shall be
“ paid such amount as shall be
recommended from time to time
by the RMAFC and approved by
the National Assembly as upkeep
allowance in addition to the
pension entitlement under the
1999 Constitution ”.
These former officers shall also
be “entitled to the perquisites of
office as shall be recommended
by RMAFC from time to time for
approval by the NASS ”.
For Senate Presidents, their
deputies, Speakers of the House
of Representatives, their deputies
and Chief Justices of the
Federation, all of which the
Constitution did not grant
pension, the National Assembly
has now approved that “they
shall all be paid an upkeep
allowance as shall be
recommended from time to time
by the RMAFC and approved by
the National Assembly. ”
In addition, they shall be entitled
to the perquisites of office as
shall be recommended by the
RMAFC from time to time for
approval by the National
Assembly.
Family members of deceased
former Presidents and Vice-
Presidents shall also be entitled
to annual payments but the
allowances “shall be applied for
the upkeep of the spouse and
education of the children of the
deceased former Presidents and
deceased former Vice-Presidents
up to the university graduate
level or its equivalent.
“For the avoidance of doubt, the
allowance specified in sub-
section (1) of this section shall
cease upon the death of the last
spouse of the office holder, ” the
Bill stated.
It specified that “officers referred
to in this bill include the offices
of President, Heads of the
Government of the federation,
Prime Minister, Vice-President,
President of the Senate and
Speaker of the House of
Representatives, Chief Justice,
Deputy Senate President and
Deputy Speaker of the House of
Representatives under the 1999
Constitution of the Federal
Republic of Nigeria. ”
However, the clause which stated
that these benefits would not
apply to persons removed from
any of the offices referred to in
the bill by the process of
impeachment was a subject of
controversy yesterday.
Since 1999, Salisu Buhari and
Mrs. Patricia Etteh have resigned
their positions as Speakers of the
House of Representatives while
the late Evan Enwerem and
Senator Adolphus Wabara
resigned as Senate Presidents.
Senator Chuba Okadigbo was
impeached as Senate President
and died in 2003.
Senators Pius Anyim and Ken
Nnamani completed their
tenures at the expiration of the
fourth and fifth Senate while
Umar Ghali Na ’Abba and Aminu
Bello Masari completed their
tenures as Speakers of fourth
and fifth House of
Representatives.

compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69401:nass-okays-pension-for-ironsi-gowon-ibb-others&catid=43:news&Itemid=799

Sullivan Chime- no contest. Very focused.

form the habit of placing some fake juju in front of their house every morning, they'll pack out very soon.

ChinenyeN:
I [i]think [/i]you may be [i]unintentionally [/i]confusing modernization and centralization here. Either that, or your making them out to seem synonymous, when they're not.

I guess you're right. That was an unintentional mix-up.

^^^lol.

I'm not that easy!

But i must say that YOU are doing good. Women don't usually crack me, but you did!

Can you cook? I might consider your proposal.

@ amekaoti

Ok. now i get your point. Noted. But please can you spell 'Igbo' correctly next time?

Well, like you observed, it's unfortunate that this kind of confusion is going on among Igbo groups.

To your question, i dont think there's any need to modernize the various Igbo dialects. That's why they are called dialects, we can not all speak the same way. Though there exists a Central Igbo. The Ikwerre and Ika problems are pure politics. When someone says he wants to know the differences between Ikwerre and Igbo, i cant help but laugh at the person's ignorance, just like the OP was trying to do. Sometimes non-Igbos assume that all Igbo groups speak the same way. So if you say you want to know the differences between Nkanu and Owerre dialects, then i can understand.

Going back to the names issue. Do you know that Ngwas have their own unique names in addition to the general ones used by all Igbo groups? Names like kasarachi, uloaku, ihuaku, nkasiobi, nnabugwu, ngwahu, nmaeze, etc. All these are uniquely Ngwa names, yet that in itself does not make Ngwa a distinct language of its own.

I'm aware of an attempt by some Ngwa youths to claim a distinct Ngwa ethnic nationality, but sincerely i dont understand the rationale behind this move, so I cant say much.

madlady:
Don't do that, I have just found out that your 1st statement really is correct. Sad but true.

You mean like recently? i hope you are fine, dear.

amekaoti:
I was searching to see if there are significant differences between ikwerre and ibo when I stumbled onto this discussion. I am not interested in the politics. I just want to see if some words have changed sufficiently in ikwerre and other areas like it to help enrich the ibo language in general. It is common knowledge that until a language adopts and borrows from other languages, it is not going to get too far. The ibo language needs serious help and I am thinking that as a start, we need to start looking at the different dialects within ibo with a view to borrowing and modernizing our language. Anyone who has heard ibo, ika, ikwerre, owerri, nsukka, awhugbo, ngwa, and all the other areas not mentioned can definitely feel like they are all different languages. Yet none of these dialects is sufficient enough by itself to carry on a normal conversation in modern terms. That is why I researching the changes the ibo words have undergone as one moves away from the center. I need everyone's help!

I sincerely hope you know what you are talking about. You are seperating ngwa from igbo. Is ngwa a language on its own? Anyway, you are a newbie, let me just forgive your ignorance. Hope you learn fast.

^^^

I'll be glad to do that. Anyway, how are you doing, sis? You seem quite like a free roamer and looking good for the taste.

Friday, friday, friday.

It seems they are just in love with 'Friday'. This is the third friday they are promising to produce a consensus northern candidate.

EzeUche0:
We need to send these talented Igbo lads abroad to study at the university. Why waste their time at a Nigerian university, when they can come to the states or Europe to learn?

And how do you intend doing that? Any foundation or NGO in the pipeline. The talented Igbo lads are sometimes not from wealthy families.

Freewilly:
@ Inked_Nerd,


Nne idi dangerous oooh! look at all my Igbo brothers trying to toast you.

You are assuming too much. I see only one person trying to do that and it was jokingly.

Chei! Mama Olusegun must have found this Oga Police so irresistable and Oulalacious

Akin-Egba:
You are right and might I add that the so-called drop out syndrome is among Igbo males. Read here what an Hausa man (of all people) has to say
http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/education/14699.html

I've been very sceptical of the Igbo leading in Nigerian academics until this was posted. I think this is what translates in the real life. Most top managerial positions are held by Igbo females than Igbo males. This makes sense. But what can be done to encourage more Igbo males to attain higher education to be at par with the females?

chyz1:
Something tells me that this is going to come up in 2015 in order to stop Igbo presidency under PDP.

Thank God you are beginning to get the drift. Waiting for the next 40 years would not be easy on these folks.

This purely a crafty plot to get a shot at the presidency before the Igbos.

That's why we must fight this LIE they are spreading.

^^^ then what da heck is shell doing in Nigeria?

becomrich4:
For you to see, we are not part of nigeria. Can you see any Yourba name on this list.

Is there federal character in your constitution. Abuja look at the names of the directos of Abuja. You have 8 people. Do you see a Yoruba man on this list. There is no single Yorubaman as a director of the ABuja. And you talk of one nigeria.

out of 12 directors appointed to the FCT. NO single Yorubaman.

Becomrich, Are the Yorubas the only ones in Nigeria. What difference does it make if there's no Yoruba man among the 12 directors.

jason12345:
excanny, this just shows that there is little difference between yorubas and igbos. why don't they unite!!!!

Hey, dont get it twisted. All what you see here is just fun. Tackling each other for size. That's lesson 1 of Nairaland 101. Wait for the remaining course.

They need to prove that that picture is truly that of Igwe Okwudili
Onyejekwe? Anyway, Nigerian journalism has gone down the drains!

Abagworo:
Calabar will do.It is beautiful and well laid out.Lagos is over-congested.

Seconded.

But i still don't believe this news as true.

kafikac:
I believe you know him, he never like spending more on me, I don't know why.He only want save because he want to build a house, am not complaining but sometimes I need something as a human. I don't know if he is calling me a fool or what. I have been with a guy before whom I help so much hoping will get married but at the end he got married to another woman. I said I will stop been good to men but can't. Maybe God created to be a caring person or are just good because of the way I was raised. Please tell me why he don't like spending money on me. or buying me things that I needed.

I can't say for sure because humans are very complex. There might be 2 possibilities.

1. You might have found yourself in a loveless marriage. In this case, as long as he's not violent and threatening your life, you will have to cope with him. You also have to consider looking for a job or business to support yourself.

2. He's trying to be thrifty due to his financial commitments(like you said, your family is building a house, possibly from your family savings). But that is no excuse for him not to pay the bills.

However, in all, you might need to make your own money because you sound like you are a full-time housewife. This is just my little thoughts. Hopefully, others will advice you more.

^^^

I chuu nwanyi dinu nma. Kee nke i na-achuu?