₦airaland Forum

jamace:
OP, What's your source for this info?

gadogado:
I think the problem is simple, the PDP made a provision for zoning in their constitution, if they are gentlemen then why won't they honor agreements? This is the 4th republic and the PDP being the party that is likely to determine the winner of presidential elections for the next 20 years should not start off Nigeria's "democratic" 4th republic with deceit. The agreement is clear, that "political offices shall rotate among the zones" The north is not saying that they want to rule indefinitely, but till 2015 only which will be approximately the 8 years the north is entitled to under the zoning arrangement. Obasanjo did his 8 years. Now its the north. The north didn't say that Jonathan (who is a product of zoning) should step down after Yar'adua's death to enable a northerner (Yayale) finish out Yar'adua/north slot. The north was politically mature and decided to allow the then VP to ascend to the presidency. Now the north is saying they refuse to be short changed.

Simple, if you want to discard of the agreement, then wait till it fully rotates and get together as a party and do away with the agreement, you don't rescind on agreements half way through it. Thats not fair, it goes against common courtesy. The 4th republic was supposed to be the birth of a New nation, new ideals, had the north wanted (practically speaking) they would have held on to power given their dominance in the military and security apparatus of the nation (the most important institutions in maintaining power) But the north yielded and allowed Obasanjo 8 years (which he used to dismantle northern interests particularly in banking) So my brothers and sisters, please let common courtesy prevail, abide by the pre-existing zoning agreement. Discard of it after everybody has done their fair share.

otokx:
This is just something else

According to the source, many
of the prominent people from
the South-West, whom President
Jonathan had met, had told him
the truth that the Yoruba “do
not have anything against him
but that he has inherited the
rity of former President
Obasanjo by making him his
salesman in the South-West. ”

Last week, Chief[b] Edwin Clark[/b],
paid a surprise visit to Mallam
Adamu Ciroma, leader of the
G15, which had been
championing the cause of zoning
the position of president to the
North.

Lanrefemi:
@sd-6:
Pls what's the essence of the topic you posted!?

There is a saying in yoruba that "a muscular man without brain or wisdom is worse than a dumb man"
Pls all igbo riff-raffs (excluding the sensible ones) should stop posting useless, senseless and unintelligible topics on nairaland. Why do you people (igbo) alway believe that the bravery of a man is measured by his muscle or the amount of violence he can cause!?

unfortunately the igbos will continue to be second class citizens in their own country with attitudes and believies  like this.

Aigbofa:
You monkey, we no longer live in the times of Okonkwo and  Amalinze the cat. ( That's not to say you can beat up any Yoruba of your age and size o )

We now live in a knowledge driven world, Yorubas probably realize this since the end of the Oyo Empire. You too need to do away with that foolhardy, all brawn and no brains attitude.
It is unwise to try and fight armored tanks with your bare hands.
This is why Yorubas appears to be light years ahead of you guys, you need more brains and less brawn.

Riot5000:
GOOD THING AWOLOWO IS DEAD.
He would certainly object to anything that trumps tribalism, especially his hatred for anything Igbo.
ask Obasanjo, the modern day awo.
Personally, the yoruba ladies i have met are typically FILTHY.

Onlytruth:
It may surprise you to know that some Nigerians (whose opinions can't be pushed over) still think that he rigged the elections.

He did so by sponsoring the cancellation of the first SDP primaries which was won by Shehu Musa Yar adua (the dead presidents senior brother). He bribed IBB to cancel it, which IBB did.
So don't give the man more credit than he deserves. Nigerians are not fools. We saw it all play out.

MR Money £:
Na by force  by fire by fire ?[/

dayokanu:
The 1993 SDP convention Had 3 top contenders Abiola, Atiku and Kingibe, With Kingibe having the upper hand before the primaries.

Abiola negotiated with Atiku to step down and support him, This is common in Politics Many democrats stepped down and Supported Obama before the primaries( John Edwards actually endorsed Obama) while Rudi Guliani stepped down for John McCain.

Abiola won an election without zoning in Nigeria.

Nnamdi Azikwe, Alex Ekwueme, Sylvester Ugoh, Chuba Okadigbo, all have one thing in common, They preferred to be Vice (boy-boy) to hausas and in the same elections Yorubas came forwward to contest for top position

sbeezy8:
I cant believe this Ezeife guy is talking, does what he said make sense?

The north said zoning between north/south and ezeife/igbos say its between geopolitical zones. - They are not on the same page so how can igbo emerge in 2015, If Northerners are saying its between north and south?

2) who told Ezeife 2015? I mean that is very dangerous and unwise  lol that doesnt make sense.

3) who told Ezeife that Jonathan wont contest in 2015- If we are going by fake Zoning the SS is allowed 8 years, so what would make any sensible person think SS would cut their term short?

4) Should Jonathan win in 2011- what makes ezeife think northerners will continue zoning?

dayokanu:
Evidence of the bribery and money sharing pls because this is the first time I am hearing this

dayokanu:

So a Yoruba guy has proven that he can win an election without zoning

Lanrefemi:
@Sbeezy8, You can be abusive as you like,

The issue i have with the zoning arrangement is that it's a PDP thing and it doesn't apply to other parties. for the sake of argument what will happen if labour candidate from southwest or south east wins the presidential election? will the northerners  still say its their turn? or are we saying indirectly that the president can never come from another party except the PDP? it's really scary.

sbeezy8:
LOL Mko abiola won in 1993 fair and square- everyone voted for him except the large amount of igbos- which is ok.

Awo contestested and lost- which was OK did you hear yoruba crying for Oduduwa republic or wanting to secede after Awo lost in 1960 and 1979? NO Afterall we didnt die over Awo losing to Balewa and Zik as second.

so whats the deal with igbos like you? If you want to contest GO HEAD AND STOP DISTURBING YORUBA PEOPLE

sbeezy8:
you keep telling yourself nonsense . .  believe it if you want. If he wins he wins and if he loses he loses. Shet If  a yoruba loses a fair election than - shiot ok. Awo Lost in 1960 and 1979- It was fine.

sjeezy8:
youre kidding right-

"Ogbonnaya Onu refuses to stand down for Falae"
http://www.abuja.net/hist5.htm

"explains why the ANPP of February 1999 ditched Ogbonnaya Onu, former governor of Abia State for Olu Falae, the Alliance for Democracy,"
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-22667209_ITM

sjeezy8:
lol- It doesnt matter cause I know calabar who actually like Cross rivier and Awka Ibom states( They like Most Nigerian want Federalism) and not biafra.

and what does Edo have to do with this topic or yoruba people ?

I guess Nigeria will disintergrate because everyone wants a free and fair election in 2015 lol-

sjeezy8:
Onlytruth - theres NO "VP" that can sway yorubas votes - We want Fashola for president and hes not contesting in 2011, Mimiko whos party is now Donald Duke and Oshiomole not contesting either.

You think we fall for Mugu things - NO

And history shows yorubas dont go for  VP spot like Zik, Ekwueme, Sylvester Ugoh.- all igbos who have went for the VP ticket with Northerners.

IBB's VP trick always works with igbos- they didnt try it on the West- who wants to be boy boy?

H.ELL NO we dont go on false promises.