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Because when he got award letter at PTDF towers he went to complain to them that he didn't chose FGM in his application - that's when they told him PTDF reserves the right to give you any one and explained it to him

jlomz:
How did he know he surpassed all the FGM?

I have seen it happen. PTDF reserves the right to allocate you either UK or FGM depending on how things work out in your state. If for example you did very well but not well enough for UK, but you surpassed all the FGM applicants, they can move you to FGM. Happened to my mentee.

Salyass555:
I haven’t seen anyone choosing UK and ending up getting FGM.
But I have seen many FGM scholars that got their second or third choice after shortlisting.

Nothing specific about first class honestly. It is just like someone with first class is more likely to do well in O level as well. It is the compounding effect

Engr2016:
Or perhaps, there was a public outcry against the neglect of 2:1 and 2:2 candidates last year. In my findings, I am yet to see any non-first class applicant that won it in 2020/2021 . Well, things may change this year.

Region

Haxeel:
Pls anyone with the idea on how they do d selection? Is it by state or by region? Cos I'm having two revelations

My theory is that they're preparing the interview system for LSS - they are almost done wrapping up OSS (last day of interviews is tomorrow)

over the years what does it mean? if your interview details are still there what does it mean?

Minnieny:
I just checked my portal now and I noticed ptdf have taken down my interview details when interview is not even over yet . Is it the way it is for everyone or I'm I the only one? This looks really somehow though...

Over the years, I have read that portal changing determines if one will be successful or not. Dont know how true it is

Interview details taken down for 2 people I checked with

LOOL what state?

XtraSmooth404:
Back to my observation mode. The guys in my state were blasting first class and distinctions in MSc. I'm humbled

yes research was very relevant and they agreed with the 3 objectives listed - however advised to focus on 1 objective so that the PhD will be completed on time.

Mentee that was told by PTDF interviewers that the profile is very strong

WAEC 7As total but B2 in English - 4A1 1B2
Bachelor's: first class
Master's: distinction
Professional membership: 5
Publications: 2

Keen on final list despite the competitiveness of the state

If you are asked for deposit, tell them you applied for scholarship and that you are waiting for the outcome of the scholarship.

jlomz:
Bro thank you so very much for the updates, my question is, regarding this issue of admission, you know some of these schools require a successful applicant to pay acceptance fee/tuition after issuing admission to the individual and it's usually binding for a certain period after which one's admission will/might be rescinded.

PTDF might release the list after that payment window, how does one now go about it?

Then in cases for deferring admission, I might be wrong but some persons by extrapolation realize that with the current PTDF schedule the list might not come as at when due, that automatically translates to next year, shey the deferring process isn't strenuous?

God will help us with this election.

Oh yes you changed it, i was only looking at the quoted post that had the former information there

babey543:
Yes A1 is 6 points. Check the write-up well.

that is the verification. They must corroborate what the software has done with what is real. That is why they require your original results etc. Anybody can put that they have first class and 8As on the software, without verification - they cannot accept that submission. The verification (done at interview stage) is an important part of the process

Engr2016:
But why is it that the Professors or Interviewers were reportedly adding the marks on physical paper as reported by some candidates here if the grading have already been done automatically by the software .

Ofcourse - the shortlisting does not have the interview component included. After interviews, the ranking of candidates can change significantly, someone that does exceptionally well for example can get a recommendation (maximum marks of 50) and even top those who had stronger profiles. e.g if before interview it was 70 for candidate A and 50 for Candidate B but after interview Candidate A got 25 but Candidate B got 50 - overall Candidate B gets 100 despite being lower ranked initially before the interview and Candidate A with 95

Aremson14:
And this also means valuation for shortlisting is completely different from the final evaluation used to give the final award

And that A1 is 6 points. Because from the marking scheme I saw with my own eyes it was 6 marks for A1 5As = 30 points

babey543:
Nice observation.
I made a mistake in my typo. It is 5 subjects they used this time. I have modified it.

Lets assume PTDF is taking 200 per state for interview - if someone with 1st class and 5As is 201st in their state, they won't be shortlisted. While someone with 2:1 and Cs is 3rd in their state, they will be shortlisted.

It depends on the state, if your total points falls in the top performing for your state, even with 2:2 you will be shortlisted

Engr2016:
Ehn ehn! This is interesting indeed ! But the other guy also said he had 2:1 in BSc but C grades in his O-level and he was shortlisted.

LOL who said? all that the software needs to do is to take Maths + English and 3 highest grade entries to calculate a final score for the WAEC component. Lecturers are only there for verification and actual interviewing

Engr2016:
Yes U are right, a software can easily filter out candidates based on certain criteria like that. However, since the required WAEC results varies for shortlisted candidates, there is no way PTDF can conveniently grade the O-levels results like that on the portal. That is why they depend on the professors and interviewers to do that at the centers directly.

Source o

babey543:
Next month results will be out.

LSS or OSS

Bee2419:
I tried updating this morning,but the update button is no longer there, did not know my test location was changed, what do I do

An easy way to do the shortlisting is to select the 'top candidates' from each state. Using computer software - the top candidates can be calculated easily by assigning points to each category of submission - WAEC, BSc Grade, MSc grade, publications, professional memberships etc. Despite we not knowing the exact scoring details, it is expected that those with the highest qualifications will have the highest marks - (this is without the interview component being scored).

Ofcourse the interview marks can swing and rearrange the list. For example if before interview someone with 70 marks got 30 in interview, and someone with 72 got 20 marks in interview, despite the initial being higher, the interview would change the overall marks.

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tolaade1960:
It's not order of scoring , its order of application submission time. I have reason for this .
If u are to say order of scoring, it will be order of CGPA you entered but I doubt . That's only parameter that could be used for such a voluminous applications .

I disagree with the submission time sha - because I know the profiles of people in 6 states. And two people I know submitted not so early and they're names are at the top (based on profiles). All speculative sha

for the number 1 post

toolazy:
I'd disagree that the order is based on score for two reasons.
1. That won't be very much in my favor lol
2. On a serious note softwares usually sort based on creation (submission) date and time. We're seeing a list made up of either a first come, first serve or last come first serve or what you guys have alluded. This is most likely the case IMO.

Exactly that order is without the interview component, and the interview component can swing things in favour of those with grace, so prayer is key

Omexx:
Though las las, the interview can change the order of things. So let's keep praying

Someone tried to email me, I don't have access to the email account used to register - so you will have to ask your questions here

Yes order is very important. I tried to use other metrics such as alphabetical order, PTDF serial number to justify the name placement all to no avail - I have used sample data of 6 states to verify what I think it is. But 6 states is not enough out of 36

Omexx:
My brother as a computer scientist, I have thesesame speculation the first time I saw the list. Order is an important item in programming.I am surprised nobody is saying anything about it. Thank God I am
not the only one. For peace sake, let's keep our speculations to ourselves .

I have some speculation about the order of names published for candidates invited for the interviews but I don't have enough data to verify - so it would just be a speculation. Hopefully the final list comes out soon and I can confirm if my speculations are true

Go to the page where you select your course and then click edit, that is when it will appear - happened similarly for OSS

CovenantCee:
Hello Guys..

Kindly help out a brother.. I'm shortlisted for the about to commence ISS and I've gotten a mail to login to my profile and edit preferred interview, date and time, but on logging in, there's no such option.

Their WhatsApp and call contacts on the page ain't working.
Did anyone face this in the OSS Interview Session?

Who can suggest an alternative solution. Thank you.

Agree with Dmainman

ExpertNLer:
PhD Interview experience of a mentee (Virtual)

Mentee was greeted by two panelists who are industry experts and previous PTDF Scholars.

After greetings, they alluded that the profile was strong - Profile is indeed strong 7A1s first class bachelors and distinction in masters, 5 professional memberships and 2 publications.

The interviewers seemed impressed with the proposal presentation and recommended focus areas in the research about increasing production efficiency and wished candidate the best of luck.

Really? my mentee with 5 professional memberships and 2 publications could only add maximum of 5 on the portal, just want to check if there was a possibility of adding more on the portal during the application stage. They had to tell the interviewers about their other membership and publication by mouth (which they verified by asking for the documents over Teams)

Engr2016:
This year, I think Publications and Professional Membership certifications are interchangeable for the MSc applicants and it is limited to maximum of 5. You will notice that when you are on that section of the PTDF portal, both publications and professional certifications are listed in the same input field but you can't add more than 5. Hence, I am thinking 5 publications or 5 professional certifications or a combination of both will still amount to the same maximum mark. Thus publications may not be needed if you already have 5 professional certifications and vice versa. However, for the PhD, I think publications is a must while certifications may not be as important.

Yeah I knew it that there's no way your name won't be on the list if you were shortlisted

Liebermann:
False alarm, seen it.