sukkot:
nah bro the caucasus regions is further up. the middle-east region is tropical. they are thousands of miles apart

Most of the Caucasus region is in the Middle East. You the folly of this logic? Jews were never black, abeg.

sukkot:
bro ? its common sense. if egypt was all black at a point in human history then israel which is just a stones throw will also be all black. and if you need the bible to back it up lets get you description of 'jews ' in the bible

lamentations 4 vs 8 But now they are blacker than soot; they are not recognized in the streets. Their skin has shriveled on their bones; it has become as dry as a stick. <<< THE JEWS AFTER SERIOUS FAMINE AND THE HEAVY SUN OF THAT REGION. AS BLACK AS A SOOT. VERY DARK.

So if the Middle East was all black at one point then by that logic the Caucasus area was also black because of proximity, or are going back to Africans leaving African 80,000 years ago?

The bible is not a historical text.

wickyyolo:
My mother has been telling not to marry Nigerian woman. Now I can see why

Because you cannot control yourself?

sukkot:
bro its in wikipedia and other books. the middle-east includes egypt. please go and buy a map and look. its the same tectonic plate. its like walking from surulere to ikeja is how you walk into israel from egypt

You're deflecting about the origins of the Jews, the Middle East was not all black as you claim, the ancient states including the Levant have their descendants in Jews, Iraqis, Palestinians, and so on.

Rossikki:


Dude, please just shut the fck up and stop defending the indefensible. It you don't know black history, or if somebody sent you here to promote white lies, tell them no one here believes their lies anymore. WE KNOW Ancient Egypt was black. Not 'believe' or 'think'. WE KNOW.

What are you barking about, we're discussing ancient Israelites, and you're jumping on Egypt.

sukkot:
egypt is a part of the middle-east. you didnt know ? lmao. you can walk intoo israel from egypt. Jesus used to run into egypt all the time when they wanted to kill him. its all the same place. and it was a place of black people before whites came down south from up north and after like 10 generations of fucking the people turned to arab types lol. read your history bro. its all there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East

The Middle East[note 1] is a transcontinental region centered on Western Asia and Egypt in North Africa.

The Middle East as defined by origins, not African people like ancient Egyptians.

Rossikki:


Stop posting FAKE images. Those pictures were doctored. I know ALL about them. The Egyptians were black Africans. I have posted MULTIPLE IMAGES on this site showing the true black pharaohs and people of ancient Egypt.

Oh, right, doctored indeed. Let me guess, there are no black or African archaeologists, just white ones who can get away with fake images. Some blacks are endless victims of history, everything is a conspiracy when it doesn't go their way.

sukkot:
as you can see from the picture, and especially if you go to egypt today which is part of the region, the sphinx is a black woman, all the artifacts are black, all the carvings are of black people. read your history brah. go to egypt and have a look around. was all black before the white man came down from the north and changed the color of everyone to mix race.

We're talking about the Middle East, not northeast Africa. You said all those areas are black, which is nonsense. All those people, Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Akkadians, Canaanites are the ancestors of the people presently living there, and also partly those of Ashkenazi Jews.

sukkot:
ahhhh see your brain cant understand that over the millenias there is such a thing as mass migrations of population. over two thousand years ago that region was fully black while whites were closer to that armenian georgian russian caucasus mountains region ( hence the name caucasian ). these whites moved south and intermingled with all the blacks in which the ancient roman empire was an admixture of blacks and whites. it is the mixture of these people that produced the arab and ashkenazi looking types. they are a mixed race people. an admixture of black and white and then they formed their own group in that middle region. whats my point ? there is no such thing as a middle-eastern people. the people you see there are a product of race mixing and mass migrations.

but thats on a surface level. on a deeper level, there is no such thing as a jewish ancestry. the name jew was a derogatory word developed for those who are wretched and suffering. if you understand esoteric etymology and esotericc theology thats what the word means and if you check revelations it says and i know you jews because of your suffering and hardship and i know those pretending to be jews but are not jews. meaning there are some people pretending to be suffering when in fact they are not. and how do they pretend ? they have something called the wailing wall where they go to pretend like they are crying and suffering

so whats my point ? you are wayyyyyyyy beyond your league when it comes to understanding the ancient history of man and the esoteric etymology of words and esoteric understanding of the bible and mass migratory patterns

Oh really, the entire area was black? So these people are black:

Sumerians



Assyrians



Akkadians



And even ancient Egyptian categorisation of races

sukkot:
in the middle-east there are blacks, whites, arabs and all kinds of people. so i ask again bro. what is middle-eastern ancestry ?

This is the kind of reasoning expected from Afrocentrists. There are whites and blacks in North America, yet geneticists can say who is Native American and not. Use sense and reasoning to understand that there are groups of people in the Middle East that are descended from the ancient people in that area, the admixture from others due to colonialism or the Arab slave trade can be deciphered, just like the European ancestry of Ashkenazi people have.

sukkot:
and what exactly is middle eastern ancestry ? you do realise that middle eastern is an aeronautic direction right ? is eastern a heritage and lineage or a direction ? lmao

What is Africa or Europe? Are they not areas that have designated by humans? Obviously, middle eastern ancestry means ancestry among groups found in the middle east.

sukkot:
of course they are not. they are pygmies and bantus who relocated to nigeria in the 1600s from the cameroon congo region

however neither is the white man in israel a jew. he is a fake jew. he is a khazar

Stop being a mad Afrocentrist, DNA evidence shows Ashkenazi have middle eastern ancestry and most Jews have similar DNA.

Congratulations to her, she got out of the hell hole, hell hole dwellers will follow to curse her from their hell hole of course.

aolawale025:
Most women "open eye" when taken overseas. And they use the laws there to their advantage to the detriment of the man that suffered to bring them over and up

So that then justifies murdering them.

rusher14:

Afonja.

Sorry, I couldn't resist it.

You're only a disappointment to yourself.

GoldAlpha12:


You clearly cannnot read, here is what I said:

"Yes but you are trying to say that every single Igbo is not a Jew. I'm saying that some are Jews"

For the first part I was clearly referring to comments made by you, I am not contradicting myself, you clearly took my words out of context but only highlighting "every single Igbo is not a Jew" instead of highlighting "You are trying to say that every single Igbo is not a Jew"

Why do you believe in the Igbo Jewish theory. What I mean is, what evidence, hard evidence that is, not hearsay or meaningless comparison, do you have to believe so strongly for this theory?

GoldAlpha12:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c_PkRMqPH4

The bones are whose? That's even if there was every anybody in the area that they say are there.

http://bahaiteachings.org/abraham-buried-tomb-patriarchs

GoldAlpha12:


There are ancient Hebrew skeletons buried in israel, if we tested those we would be able to find Jacob's ydna through his children. I never said that the haplogroup as a whole was from Jacob, only that Jacob would have that haplogroup, and that would mean anyone else that claims to descend from Jacob should have that haplogroup.

Which ancient skeletons?

GoldAlpha12:


Jews trace ancestry through paternal, if the father is an Israelite, than they would be considered as Jewish as any other Jew. It wouldn't matter if the Jewish autosomal dna is at 1%, if there are descendant of a male Israelite let's say 2,500 years ago but they have been intermixing with non-israelite woman they would be still considered an Israelite.

The entire idea of that haplogroup being from Jacob, who is not even confirmed as a historical figure, is not based on solid evidence. If the argument is that the other Jews are not true Jews then there will never be a way to confirm whether Jacob existed or not and what origin he had.

GoldAlpha12:


It would be a factor in testing Jewish ancestry, such as somebody with haplogroup B would not Jewish 100%.

There's nothing like "Jewish 100%", even if we go with this funny theory, Igbo "Jews" would not be 100%, they'd be watered down with whoever you guys think the Igbo people are made up of who would be black Africans.

Furthermore, this is a ridiculous reason to claim or even been campaigning for Igbo Jewish identity.

GoldAlpha12:


If Jacob had E1b1a, and some igbo's have E1b1a you would not consider the possible Jewish ancestry of Igbo's?

That would also mean that millions out of more than 500 million black Africans "may be Jewish".

IgboSubmarine:



Lemba are a tribe in South Africa that have been confirmed Jews.

Actually, it has been revealed from further research that they are not.

GoldAlpha12:
That is not the point, if Jacob's DNA was found and it was tested to be E1b1a, but E1b1a is at an 80% rate in Africa, that does not make every African Jewish, it would just mean that Jacob's YDNA is E1b1a and it can be used to see if somebody has a chance of being Jewish, Jacob would come from a group of people that have E1b1a, however those people would not stop giving birth once Jacob was born, they would give birth to other people with E1b1a, but they would not be considered Jewish.

Then that rubbishes the idea of that haplogroup indicating 'Jewish' ancestry.

IgboSubmarine:
The problem started with the part of Igbo land they collected samples


The should have checked the following communities to verify


Obowo

Umuahia

Mbano

Ideato

Ihitte Uboma

Ohafia

Ikwuano

Bende


These are places they will get the result they seek for.


@ GoldAlpha12 totit

Such a disgraceful statement to make. I think you guys should be seeking therapy instead of DNA ancestry. What exactly is there to gain from being from Israel?

temiflex01:
This is not Igbo attire! Igbos are know for tying rappa only, wearing cloth is a borrowed culture.

The oyinbo man needs to check Igbo history and dress properly.

Agbada and buba and babariga are also borrowed culture so what are you on about?

pazienza:
The last time there was hike in price of imported rice.
The effect was so highly felt in the North, so much that the Sultan of Sokoto had to intervene.

The North depends highly on foreign rice to to complement whatever they produce. SW not only depend on Foreign rice, they also depend on Kebbi for local rice.


This is the reality on ground, not some silly stats made up by an Afonja Muslim called Sule to get his fellow afonjas thumping their chests like chimpanzees.

Nigerians rely on tubers, actually, not so much rice, according to OP's source.

Nigeria imported $199 million of palm oil.



http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/nga/#Imports

"Favourable prospects for the Nigerian palm oil sector..."

"With a supply gap of about 500,000 metric tonnes (mt) and fertile arable land for cultivation, the untapped potential of the Nigerian palm oil sector is large. The main producers, Okomu Oil and Presco, have continued to increase their plantation area and are on course to meet their 2018 and 2020 targets of growing their respective land area to 12,000 hectares (ha) and 20,000ha. In 2015, mature land constituted about 95% of the total land area for both producers combined, growing by 10.8% for Okomu and 46.2% for Presco. Total crude palm oil (CPO) produced during the year increased by 12% to 35,600 tonnes (te) and 10% to 39,328te for both companies respectively. We expect both companies to surpass their targets by 2017. For 2016E specifically, we forecast sales growth of 24.5% and 38.8% for Okomu and Presco, and PBT growth of 62.7% and 43.7%."

https://www.proshareng.com/admin/upload/reports/FBNQuestPalmOil.pdf

Presco MD Dr. Felix Nwabuko



http://www.presco-plc.com/

MD, CEO of (privatised) Okomu Oil Graham Hefer



http://www.okomunigeria.com/

Obi1kenobi:
I'm surprised a massive state like Oyo, the biggest state in the South of Nigeria and bigger than all SE states combined ranks at the bottom. They have massive agricultural potential.

As for those criticizing the SE, incase you hadn't noticed, we have the smallest landmass by far in the country. It's hardly a surprise we can't commit wide, open fields for farming compared to much larger regions with less population density. Ebonyi, the least urbanized SE state with the lowest population and population density are the ones with land to farm. I'm surprised we had as much as 9%.

How much rice does Nigeria export versus palm oil in the SE?

Look:

ezeagu:
According to data collators IndexMundi, Nigeria exported 18,000 metric tons of palm oil (compared to 152,000 in 1964) consistently from 2008 to 2017 at 0% growth rate as noted in other sources posted here and 5,000 metric tons of palm kernel oil (37,000 in 1966) and 2,000 metric tons of palm kernel oil seed (437,000 in 1960) and 75,000 metric tons of palm kernel meal (179,000 in 1999) in 2017. Together that is around 100,000 metric tons of oil palm industry exports from Nigeria.

https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ng&commodity=palm-oil&graph=exports
https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ng&commodity=palm-kernel-oil&graph=exports
https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ng&commodity=palm-kernel-oilseed&graph=exports
https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ng&commodity=palm-kernel-meal&graph=exports

The current price of palm oil (Malaysia) is:

$613.00

U.S. dollars and cents per metric ton

http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=palm-oil

The June 2017 price of palm kernel oil (Malaysia) is:

$1030.00

U.S. dollars and cents per metric ton

http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=palm-kernel-oil

https://www.nairaland.com/3978186/palm-oil-production-states-nigeria

Nigeria exports 0 tons of rice, according to indexMundi. This isn't including how much palm oil and rice is used within Nigeria, obviously. Of course, this is nothing compared to Malaysia's 21 million metric tons of palm oil exports.

Afam4eva:

I'm not in any way downplaying the importance of Agriculture. I'm only concerned that you think just because the north produce most of what we eat, that they are some our greatest asset without baring the fact that agriculture adds very little or nothing to our income as a country. The Agriculture in the north is mostly beneficial to the people who own those products and are selling it to us. Getting people to sell agricultural products has never been a problem. The day the north stops providing it, cameroon or any other country that wants to make money will do so. It's all for profit. Nothing in the south has been built as a result of the agricultural strides of the north. It has only benefited them. Until Agriculture is included in the exclusive list, i don't think anyone should be going about talking as if the north is doing us a favour.

If there's anything that can thump the oil been provided by the Niger Delta it is the human capital that the south as a whole possess.

Nigeria hasn't even been exporting any rice, while they've been exporting wheat ($170.40 per ton), sorghum ($166 per ton), and especially palm oil ($613 per ton) https://www.nairaland.com/3978186/palm-oil-production-states-nigeria

According to data collators IndexMundi, Nigeria exported 18,000 metric tons of palm oil (compared to 152,000 in 1964) consistently from 2008 to 2017 at 0% growth rate as noted in other sources posted here and 5,000 metric tons of palm kernel oil (37,000 in 1966) and 2,000 metric tons of palm kernel oil seed (437,000 in 1960) and 75,000 metric tons of palm kernel meal (179,000 in 1999) in 2017. Together that is around 100,000 metric tons of oil palm industry exports from Nigeria.

https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ng&commodity=palm-oil&graph=exports
https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ng&commodity=palm-kernel-oil&graph=exports
https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ng&commodity=palm-kernel-oilseed&graph=exports
https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ng&commodity=palm-kernel-meal&graph=exports

The current price of palm oil (Malaysia) is:

$613.00

U.S. dollars and cents per metric ton

http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=palm-oil

The June 2017 price of palm kernel oil (Malaysia) is:

$1030.00

U.S. dollars and cents per metric ton

http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=palm-kernel-oil

Food and non-food uses of palm oil products

Food uses
Cooking Oil
Deep Frying Oils
Margarines and spreads
Bakery fats
Cocoa butter alternative fats
Confectionary fats
Ice cream fats
Infants nutrition fats
Other food applications

Non – food uses
Cosmetics and personal care
Soaps
Candles
Pharmaceuticals
Lubrications and Grease
Surfactants
Industrial Chemicals
Agrochemicals
Coatings
Paints and lacquers
Electronics
Leather
Biodiesel

Source: Unleashing Agricultural Development in Nigeria through Value Chain Financing, Working Paper November
2010