₦airaland Forum

ChinenyeN:
this boy. . .

I knew our truce would not last. Instead of saying, "this boy," explain how my assertion is wrong.

ezeagu:
I can see why Ikwerre people would be annoyed by Igbo people.

Maybe you should say I understand why Ikwerre (Igbo) would be annoyed by hinterland Igbo.   Even during the Willinks Report, Ikwerre were already being outnumbered by their hinterland brothers. 

As people can see, PH is a contentious flashpoint. If Nigeria did break up, I do not think any Igbo would allow Port Harcourt to leave an Igbo nation. Just like Warri, it would look like Jerusalem or Beirut.

Ibime:
How many people named in that song do you know personally, fake PH Boy?

That song is for PH boys. We all know each other. Duncan Mighty is a Port-Harcourt son, you are not, just an interloper.

I am a PH son. My family hails from Arochuku, but PH is our home. Now come back to reality and realize that PH is an Igbo city. It has always been, and it always will.

Ibime:
Original PH was from Aggrey Road to Nnamdi Azikiwe road. 80% of original PH is Okrika land whilst only Diobu-Rebisi ws Ikwerre land. Contrary to the assertion of fake-PH boy EzeUche, PH never extended into Okrika land. PH extended into Ikwerre land. You cannot expand into water. There is no Ikwerre settlement beyond Diobu, whilst the Colonial buildings on Aggrey Road should tell you that was the administrative hub of old PH.

I grow tired of your people and their mixed heritage. PH will always be an Igbo town. The Willinks Report is proof enough. If you don't like that, then build up that city built on a swamp, Yenagoa. We Igbos built PH, and we were there from the beginning. 

Now enjoy some Duncan Mighty - Port Harcourt Son. In Igbo. . .


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PhysicsMHD:
The truth is that the Willink Commission was a failure and the authors were very naively and unthinkingly biased in favor of the three main groups in Nigeria. If they had acquiesced to most of the implementable requests of the different groups - from Ijaws and Igbos (Anioma) in the Western region, to minorities in the North, to the peoples in what is now Rivers state and many others- instead of refusing to do so for mere "administrative convenience," an enormous amount of strife and conflict (political, social, and military) would have been avoided, whether we're talking about the 1960s or about modern rebellion and agitation today. Anybody who is really honest and reads this report thoroughly will see how mere naivete and ignorance on the part of some British officials helped to cripple Nigeria (a British creation) before it was even independent.

I don't think the British were being naive. They knew exactly what they were doing. The minority agitation, was simply a mere inconvenience for them. It was more easier for them to allow the major groups to handle these minority groups instead of them, so that is why they did not listen to the minority agitation. They believed that the major groups would deal with them in time.

The British favored numbers as you can see in the report. That is why they rarely mentioned Cross River state, which had population of 50,000, but 11 different language groups! I see some forshadowing in this report though. Especially as it pertains to the Ndigbo. They knew our land was not sufficient to handle our growing population, which continues to grow. They saw how other groups viewed us, because of our embrace of Western education.

PhysicsMHD:
I once fell for this claim. But honestly, where is the real evidence for this?

I have yet to see even a single bit of reasonable evidence that supports this claim. In fact, the claim isn't even sensible. It's like claiming most Arabs had to be "pushed into the desert" to be where they are now, just because the desert is considered a less ideal place to live, just as the riverine areas and the creeks are considered a less ideal place to be, from certain perspectives. Nobody pushed the Arabs into the desert. Nobody pushed the Inuit into where they chose to live, and there is no evidence that anybody pushed the Ijaws into anywhere.

The irony here  is that in Adaka Boro's autobiography (which is also hosted by this website) he strongly argued against this stereotype/assertion, which had been promoted by a few historians without compelling evidence and was then accepted as gospel. He then quotes other historians who disagree with this claim to bolster his argument.

Remember I once made the assertion that the Ijaws were the earliest settlers of Nigeria, before the major groups arrived. That is why their language is not similar to the languages spoken by the Yoruba, Edo speaking groups, Igbo, Idoma and Igala. There language is also not similar to the Ogoni, Efik, and Ibibio speaking groups either. That is why I made that assertion.

Their language is also very hard, by their sentence structure. Subject-Object-Verb. Very confusing.

It would seem like I am not the only one who believes this. And if we go by some fact that was stated in the report, it would seem that from the beginning, there were more Ijaws east of the River Niger instead of West even though many of my Igbo brothers believe they are mere recent settlers.

I find it great to see that the question of Port Harcourt has been put to rest. Port Harcourt will remain an Igbo town. The British who took wonderful notes, noticed that the people spoke IGBO, not IJAW or OGONI. They also mentioned how the Igbos of PH kind of resented Igbo cousins from the hinterland moving into the city, which is quite understandable.

Interesting discussion about the Ijaws. As I have stated previously, the Ijaws are probably the old inhabitants of modern day Nigeria, but were pushed into the creeks by the Igbos and other big groups such as the Edo speaking groups and Yorubas. Interesting indeed. . . 

It also seems the Benin Empire claimed "overlordship" over the Ijaws.

The Itsekiri seem to be an interesting group, in which their language is similar to the Yorubas, but their culture and customs resembles Benin. Warri has always been a contentious place even back then. The seeds of the Warri Crisis could be seen, in which the Itsekiri did not want the other tribes in the city to vote or even participate in local government.

How can I copy sections of this report? I find it very interesting and it needs to be shared.

Another interesting aspect, is the Nupe were considered a ruling "tribe" along with the Hausa, Fulani and Kanuri.

The report also talked about the Yorubas in the North based in Illorin and Kabba divisions who were considered a minority and posed different problems for the colonial administrators.

When the British discussed the Igbo, even they recognized our land was too small to support us.  They seem to have a favorable view of the Igbo, but they recognize how our neighbors dislike us, because we spread in all directions.

It also talks about the jealousy of the people of Calabar and other coastal groups of the Igbo seen us as ignorant until we became educated in "Western" ways.

They also discuss how the minorities in the East have feared being overrun by the Igbos both politically and economically. So we Igbos should recognize this is a very old fear. That is why many supported the AG.

ekt_bear:
There is far more interesting stuff in there than the origins of PH. . . isn't really the main point of the report. And I was under the impression that part of PH also includes Okrika land.

Well your opinion was wrong about Port Harcourt. The city just expanded into their land as the city grown, but it was originally an Igbo town.

However, you are right. There are more interesting stuff, especially the information about the North.

Yorubas had a chance of throwing off the yoke of Northern aggression. But they chose not too. It can be clearly seen and Nigeria has not progressed, because of their inaction.

I can hold my head up high, knowing my Igbo forefathers tried to free us from this yoke. Something drastic needed to happen.

Where is jason123? Where is NubiLove? Where is agitator? Where is Johndoe100?

Were they not saying earlier that Port Harcourt (Iguocha) is not an Igbo town?

I thought there are no indigenous Igbos in Rivers State? Stop the lies, because this report that was written before you and many of your fathers were born.

You hear that people? Port Harcourt is definitely an Igbo town. ekt_bear, God bless you for showing this. I have came across this report before, but thank you for creating thread about it.

It also showed how one clan of Igbos, the Ikwere were worried about their hinterland brothers coming to their region. Which is very understandable!

Damn you Ironsi! The coupist failed woefully when they didn't get him. It was almost successful. The North was lost without their leader, but they regrouped when Ironsi was given power! 

The Igbo leaders of the past were truly strong men.

Let him leave. Many people will rejoice!

OAM4J:
You became scary since the time you dump me for EzeUche

First Mukina now Ileke-Idi? I still should be made mod in order to balance you!

I bet you these Ekiti people would not sell their land to an Igbo man. If these were Igbos instead of Koreans, they would be saying "these Igbos are trying to kick us off our land, soon they will be claiming ownership"

No wonder my brethren continue to move to the South-West. If land is that cheap there, I would too.

Ileke-IdI:
Its not just cheap for foreign investors. Land is very cheap to buy in Ekiti. imo

Land is expensive in the East. Time to set my sights on Ekiti.

$2 per hectare? Maybe I should join this land grab.

Katsumoto:
LOL

You are one funny kid.  

I would like to thank Shango, Oludamare, Alusi, Chineke etc for this momentous occasion. The stars must have aligned.  

Maybe there can be unity. We just need an outside force. Nothing unites a country more than an external enemy.

ndu_chuks is the most dangerous Northerner on NL. His ability to communicate in Igbo makes him a dangerous foe!

Africans shine your eyes. These Koreans are trying to scam us like they did in Madagascar?

This is a LAND GRAB and they are trying to take advantage of poor Ekiti people. Even though I am an Igbo, I am siding with my African brothers on this issue.

Katsumoto and I are on the same side? This is amazing!

I can only remember one other time when we speaking with the same voice.

What kind of question is this?