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ezeagu:
I don't need to tell you about geography because it's already on Google Maps.

Ohuhu and Umuokpara speak the same thing, and their cultures haven't changed from each other. The thing you wrote as Umuahia dialect was probably just Ibeku because it didn't sound like Ohuhu.

'Du' and 'gu' does not exist in Ohuhu.

The 'henahu' is just a variation of Ohuhu, but the majority say 'Ihe ahu'.

No point going any further. You rely on google maps and your perception and I am telling you as a native of the area. You make me laff with this your "Ohuhu and Umuokpara" thingy. Where does Ohuhu start from and where does it end ? Same question applies to Ibeku and Umuokpara. You like to argue this Umuahia thing with me all the time and I wonder on what grounds. "Du and Gu" do not exist in Ohuhu ? Hahahahahahahahahha. Shows how much you know.

Listen to the Ohuhu music below. That's Umuahia dialect with very slght variations across the board. The first track in particular. check 2:16 - 2:31


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pjopLWD_aQ

ezeagu:
That is not Ohuhu. I've heard it, it would be "I futawa, wetara m ihe ahu" just like central Igbo. The thing you wrote seems more like Ngwa. One of the differences with Ohuhu and Central Igbo is the bu which Ohuhu uses wu, another is the fact that Ohuhu use their nose a lot and add a lot of 'shi', ('O shi gini'/'O si gini', 'Ishi'/'Isi', sukoshuo onu',), and they use 'j' (as in the French way of saying it) instead of 'z' in a lot of words (jim/zim), apart from that there's little different between the two. Most people have difficulty understanding anything from Owerre so it can't be the main base of Central Igbo. And I know about the different groups, Ohuhu and Umuokpara speak the same thing because Umuokpara split from the Ohuhu community, the Enugu-Port Harcourt motorway splits the two communities.

Can anyone guess this dialect.

Ebe ki joko? Kiwuzi ohun? Yi e rizini igi?

Ok, I give it to you. You have an idea of Umuahia dialect. All what you described is Umuahia dialect from north to south and not limited to Ohuhu. As per "henahu", I dey laff because you don't know what you are saying. Growing up, I had a friend that I always teased by calling him "Henahu of Umukabia" and you are telling me what ?

The express split Umuopara at Amachara (Umuopara) which borders the Ibeku clan of Ossah. The express also splits Ohuhu at Nkwoegwu and Umukabia with the western part towards Imo River. Ohuhu sits on top of Umuopara, geographycally the same direction as the express. If you say otherwise, tell me the Umuopara and Ohuhu communities on opposit sides of the express.

Ok, so you think that because you read that Umuopara split from Ohuhu, that you can now conclude that they speak the same thing and other Umuahia clans speak differently ? Shows how much you know.

Our dialects are nearly the same with very slight variations. Are you telling me that a person from Umunwanwa ( Umuopara) speaks more like someone from Nkwoegwu (Ohuhu) than someone from Ossah (Ibeku) ? I dey laff. For your infomation, Ibeku sits right in the middle of the other clans of Umuahia and shares borders with Ohuhu (N) Umuopara (W) Olokoro &co (S),Oboro & co(E)

Ka m jugharikwa gi ozo : I bu onye Umuahia ?

ezeagu:
Central Igbo is based on Ohuhu.

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Ndụñọde: Calabar journal of the humanities, Volume 3, Issue 1

http://books.google.com/books?id=fr_uW5b73UYC&pg=PA105&dq=central+igbo+ohuhu&hl=en&ei=av9XTdzQOoSohAeTwLyoDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=Ohuhu&f=false

I've heard Ohuhu, and this:

is not it.

I am not going to argue this any further. Don't believe every thing you read especially when you read only sections that suit you.

You are planning to teach me our dialects how?

Central Igbo would say "I putawa, wetara m ihe ahu" Ohunu equivalent is : "I futawa, wetaru m henahu" Ibeku would say " I futawa, wetaru m Ihe o" (all "o"s and "u"s have dots under). If you want to hear Ohuhu, you have to hear it in Ohuhu or from a person that grew up in Ohuhu. By the way, Ohuhu say olia too and the other ones I mentioned are mainly spoken at compound/family levels.People are more likely to speak Urban Umuahia these days. Maybe you do not realise that when people talk about Umuahia, they are invariably referring to Ibeku which forms a large chunk of Umuahia which includes Ohuhu, Umuopara, Ubaka, Olokoro, Umunwanwa etc. 

Even the link you posted suggested that Central Igbo was taken from areas around Owerri and Umuahia (Imo and Abia) and I said Imo, Abia and Enugu having heard and being familar with dialects from those areas, so I can't understand your determination to liken Central Igbo to Umuahia.

Again I ask: are you from Umuahia ?

I have the privilege of Knowing Umuahia dialects as a son of Umuahia and speaking Central Igbo learnt from School and in town and can make educated comparison, so on what grounds are you trying to argue ?

Obiagu1:
^^^

Do you have a date?

You having a laff right ? Who would take the 52 year old minger out on a date ? A entire date of ROFLMAOing ?

ezeagu:
This thing you people are calling "SCI" is mostly the Ohuhu dialect of Umuahia, for this dialect listen to Bright Chimezie, it's actually a dialect that forms a large part of standard Igbo.

No, Umuahia-Ohuhu is a big part of Standard Igbo, you must be an Ibeku person.

Ofcourse I have told you before that I am from Ibeku, so don't act like you figured that out.

Bright Chimezie speaks urban Umuahia and not Ohuhu. There is not much difference between Ohuhu and Ibeku in terms of dialect, afterall, we are next door neighbours and I have friends and family from Ohuhu.

Are you from Umuahia ?

As an Umuahia person, it would be nice to say that central Igbo was derived from my area, but that is not the case. Central Igbo was derived from most parts of Imo, some parts of Abia and Enugu. For your information, I have a keen interest in languages and there is hardly any Igbo dialect that I won't be able to figure out. I also understand Yoruba and Hausa and would be able to talk myself out of a mess in French.

Although he is not Igbo, his name was likely inherited from Igbo slaves that were in Sierra Leone.

Schon was a German missionary who learnt a variation of Igbo (Isuama ) in Sierra but was soon disappointed when he got to Igbo land because that variation was not readily understood as it was highly adulterated.

Ajayi Crowther was next and he also learnt Igbo in Sierra Leone and actually went with Sierra Leonan Igbo men (Simon Jonas and Taylor) on the second expedition and they acted as interpreters. I can't recall now but I think Taylor was later ordained to remain in Onicha. Although the Isuama Igbo was not widely understood they still based their first publication of bible texts in Igbo on the dialect.  

My point is that his name "Obi" has the roots in Igbo land, but Igbo language and culture in Sierra Leone was not carried forward.

afam4eva:
There are two central Igbo. The written and sopken. While the written Igbo has it's origin in the Umuahia area. the spoken Igbo which is my favourite is from the Onitsha axis or Awka.

Nope, central Igbo is the same as written Igbo and the Igbo you hear on TV and Radio news. However, people hardly speak pure central Igbo during communications with others.
It's like that in UK as well, the telly and radio News English is different from the street English.

The Igbo you hear in towns and cities is Urban Igbo with a hint of the indegenous Igbo. I mean, the Igbo you hear in Aba, Owerri, Umuahia, Enugu, Osha, etc are no where near the local dialects.

I like Owerri dialect; especially when used in fighting talk by gals. "I shi nini a hu chaga gi ishi ?" ( I si na gini n'eme gi ni isi - what's your beef ?)

asha 2:
the igbo they teach in primary and secondary school is based more on the dialect spoken around umuahia axis.

I don't think so. My friends coming to our house in Owerri had to tune their ears to UHF when I conversed with my dad and my Umuahia is even diluted.

I think central Igbo is a fusion of mainly Imo and some parts of Abia and the southern part of Enugu. It must have been developed from the Igbo spoken in urban areas as they are a fussion of many dialects and belong to no one in particular.

Abagworo:
Ohafia says "Ndaa".[b]Umuahia says "Ndaa",[/b]Ikwerre says "Ndaa".Owerri says "I mela kp'ole".Mbaise shares with Owerri,Etche,Omuma and Ngwa.Ndoki says "Olia" and Opobo says "Olia".

We are more likely to say olia than ndaa, but would mainly say: "i du oke ole ?", "I du agini", "ahu du gu ike?" "I putala ?", "ndugu oke I du?" "I meru oke ole?"

Buhari's achievements during his dictatorship was to place Nigerians under military jackboot in cahoots with his rascal cohorts Abacha, IBB, Idiagbon and co after they overthrew the civilian govt of the day.

He showed himself as a lawless person with absolute disregard for lives and freedom of speech and he achieved zilch during his time, save for flogging civilians into queues and wielding absolute power.

He ruled by military fiat and was an absolute leader, which means that his words were capable of changing the cause of the nation, without any challenge from any one and all he did was to bully innocent Nigerians. Let his supporters name a single achievement of his.

What did he do with the PTF funds under him ? In a dog eat dog world, he was out-dawged by his mates but was compensated with a direct access to oil money (PTF) and he was happy with that.

If he had any integrity, he would have said no to the appointment as his mates made it clear during their coup that they were removing him because of his ideologies and were charting a different course that he originally set out to follow.

He is not the change I am waiting for.

I know that he is pained that he was out-embezzled by Abacha and IBB, but we are not giving him a chance to play catch up.

Anyone that claims that Ngwa people are being marginalised is being mischievous and anyone that says that Abia residents deserve the rulers they get is devious, because elections are hijacked by few individuals nationwide and in a lot of cases the winners are not a reflection of people's votes, so why single out Abia. Does anyone really think that Orji would win again in a free and fair election ?

Abia has had the following governors:

Frank Ajobena , Ogbonnaya Onu ,  Ike Nwosu  , Temi Ejoor  , Moses Fasanya  , Anthony Obi  , Orji Uzor Kalu  and Theodore Orji.

None of those people are from Abia state except for the last two who also robbed the state to stupor like their predecessors.

Who, exactly has been marginalising Ngwa people ? How many governors have Ukwa,Ndoki,Oboro,Asa, Umuahia,Arochukwu, Isukwuato, Ovim, Ohafia, etc produced in the state ? What do the others have that Ngwa people do not have ?

We need to haul our freights quick time in Abia and we have no time for primitive pathetic clannish cries.

The truth is that Ngwa people have been short changed alongside other Abians from all parts of the state. With the industrial base in Abia, should Imo state be doing better than Abia ? But Imo is doing better, even with their sub-mediocre governor.

We Abians should look for true change and do our bit by voting who we feel is the right candidate for the job regardless of where the person comes from. If INEC should get their acts right, maybe, the polling machines would work and our votes would count.

ifyalways:
^^chai chai Umuahia lee ooh.onye ga enyetum "ofe akpuru-akpu egusi" ?.O nwere ebe anyi na aga ata nsisa na afara,lol.Ala igbo amaka!

Yeah, our signature soup- Ukazi with achara na aku ife (egusi balls) na anu na azu na okporoko. (no road in the soup at all) There is another type of akpuruakpu egusi that we eat with ugba or abacha (Jigbo), can't remember what we call it now.

Afara, one of the seven children of Ibeku.

Abagworo:
That must be Olokoro.

Nope, part of Old Umuahia is Olokoro (Umu Uvuoma) and Umuobia. I am talking about Afara. and Ceramics are in Afara Ukwu and three clans and several kindreds make up Afara Ukwu. The land for Ceramics industry was taken from my Kindred especially and part of FGGC Umuahia (formely WTC) which is opposit Ceramics was our land as well. That area is an industrial belt with at least 7 industries from what I can remember. It forms a large chunk of Umuahia starting from Govt House to Umuobia (Olokoro) to timber shed to world bank estate - Holy Ghost College to Aguiyi Ironsi Estate.

You have a fair Idea of where Olokoro is though.

ezeagu:
Which community in Umuahia?

Ubakala and Old Umuahia . I remember going to Apumiri Square in Ubakala when I was a kid to watch Nwankelenke during xmas. From what I observed, they did not go from place to place like other masquerades but performed in market/village squares during xmas. My own community is less than two miles from Ubakala. We are smark in the middle between Golden Guinea Breweries and The Ceramic Industry.

Do you know Umuahia ? Where do you know in Umuahia ?

ifyalways:
Ooops,Izaga is the one that wears white,carrys and rings a bell to announce its presence and [b]stands/walks on sticks(joined to the ankles or sumthin).[/b]Ulaga is always on black,immediately it comes and leaves a funeral(titled men),the person is buried.Izaga is taller than Ulaga though

We also have that in Umuahia. They walk on sticks about a storey building high and some of them just hop about on one stick at alarming speed. We call them Nwa Nkelenke (otu ukwu or ukwu abou depending on number of sticks) I doubt that they are original to us though.

A 100M race where one of the participants is required to start from the 200M mark for whatever reason. Hmmm, interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjXH4b2GUKw&feature=related

tensor777:
That definitely is NOT in any way a case for building more federal universities. Maybe just maybe these school leavers could be channeled to more productive areas.
The obvious solution to the supply - demand imbalance which you, for some reason, have scrupulously avoided thus far, is simply to allow the universities to charge the full economic costs of their tuition services rendered.

Channeled to more productive area how ? By what means do you intend to channel someone to do something s/he has no intention of doing ? I haven't a clue as to how to channel an aspiring student to drop the ambition and become "more productive", maybe you can explain.

Private universities are allowed to charge whatever they feel like at the moment and how many research or specialist units have they produced ?

Government remains the only body in Nigeria with the financial muscle to establish and run university. It is a debt to society by government to guarantee affordable education at all levels and the 9 unis would be a solid step in the right direction.

I am a strong advocate of privatisation, but the vulnerable must be protected at all times.

tensor777:
Yes how much is say $1.5 million divided between 100 schools. The point is that they can still raise that amount if they are serious about donating computers to schools who presumably have the infrastructure and trained persommel available to maintain such a system. Or do they?

If you can't save the pennies, you can't save the pounds, it's that simple. I only used independence cake and rice as example and we know that we can count many more.

Computers are basic learning materials and do not require specially trained personnel to maintain them. By the way each school would receive $15,000, which would be able to buy more books and a few computers for their library.

tensor777:
So you would advocate a tax and spend solution to the issue of building more universities when you have not made a compelling case that more universities should be built in the first place. That is a sledgehammer and totally unnecessary at this point in time
There really is no need to build more universities as the system is already saturated with white collar jobseekers.
The FGN shoud leave all that to the private sector and concentrate attention on more basic areas.

Right now, there is complete rot from primary to University and the everyday budget allocation cannot cut it. In as much as I understand that tax can be burdensome, I believe that it is a good way out until we get to the level where budgetary allocation would become sufficient to run the sector.

As per compelling case for more universities by the government,  JAMB statistics for number of applicants and number of successful applicants are solid reasons  and I outlined that in my first response. The information available shows that there is huge gap between demand and supply in that sector with demand far outweighing supply.

I also believe that private bodies should also establish universities as they are doing at the moment, but that should be in addition to government efforts as not everybody can afford to pay for private uni education.

The fact that there many unemployed graduates is neither here nor there as everyone deserves a chance to be as educated as the next person.

In as much as I believe in privatisation and privately run institutions, I also believe that government also have a role to develop a sector which requires huge capital demand before stepping back. Take look at all the countries that scream privatisation and you would realise that most of them had their infrastructure developed by government before selling them off.

With regards the portion in bold; besides healthcare, what else can be more basic than education ?

Orikinla:
What would you propose for the education sector?

I would definitely propose more funding from the government, but I also realise that the task has gone beyond normal allocation from the budget as the funds aren't just there. Therefore, I would propose two sources of funds for the sector bearing in mind who the beneficiaries of education are; companies/employers, Nigerians  and employees.

1. Education development tax (employee): For a start, this would be 0.5% tax on income 15K - 30K (N75 - N150). 1% on income N30001 - N70K and 2% on N70001 and above. (that's a revenue of at least N30 billion p/a assuming that 20 million people were at work and earned btw 15 and 30K)

2. Corporate Education development tax: 2% tax on profit of all corporate bodies.

The money from both sources would be lodged in a special account and would be used for funding infrastructural development in primary, secondary and tertiary institutions. Govt should also continue to increase allocation to the sector as if the the funds did not exist. The harsh reality is that we need an enormous amount in the education sector and there is no way we can rely on budget allocation alone to remedy the situation.

In addition to the above, universities should be given a level of independence to source  funds and I am sure they would be able to secure corporate funding for some chairs and research activities in schools.

Orikinla:
The decision to establish new universities was part of the President's political campaign.

If he can approve billions of naira for the 50th Independence anniversary, is it not ridiculous to give only N35 billion for capital projects in the education sector?

Then N39 billion proposed for the Presidency and over N350 billion for the National Assembly.

N10 billion is not even enough for capital projects in one of the collapsing federal universities.

Presently, education deserves the lion's share of the budget.

I completely agree with you that education is grossly under funded, but the £350 billion to NASS is nearly entirely statutory so you have to keep approving an amount close to that until somethings are amended in the constitution.

You referred to the amount spent on independence day celebration and I also agree with you that there is an enormous waste everywhere in government.

I have looked at the situation in Nigeria and concluded that we will continue to move at snails speed if the government should continue to monopolise infrastructural development, because the recurrent budget far out weighs the capital budget and that is not going to change anytime soon.

In addition, the little amount for capital project is spent government style in a lavish kurukere manner, therefore don't expect any miracles from any president soon because our burden is bigger than our shoulders at the moment.

Orikinla,

Technically speaking, a campus of a university may as well be it's own university because the only thing that changes is the appointment of a VC more or less.

A campus will still require their own land, structures (library ,departments etc), students and lecturers so they might as well be new universities. In other words, the cost of running a university with several campuses is not much cheaper than running each campus as a separate entity.

Take UNEC and UNN for instance; making them separate universities will only result to the appointment of a VC for UNEC as the only change. In effect, some money might be saved overall because of the independence of UNEC from Nsukka which would result to no further need for the money spent on logistics support for communication between the campuses. Example, the school Senate members would not have to travel one way or the other for meetings.

Tensor, you referred to independence rice and cake as headline grabbing but little significance in savings. Those were on examples, but do you realise that 150 million naira rice would mean 10 computers each for 150 schools ?

For the fact that we have unemployed graduates does not mean that we should not try and give equal opportunity to everyone who aspires to go to university.

I accept that the universities are grossly under funded at the moment, but would you also stop building hospitals for wider outreach as well just because our existing hospitals are ill-equiped ?

First of all, statistics from JAMB show a steady increase in the number of applicants over the years and this will increase exponentially as soon as the educationally backward states increase their enrolment into primary and secondary schools which will lead to added pressure on existing facilities. From that point of view alone, it is worthy of praise that more universities would be built to cater for the increasing number of applicants. JAMB stats also show that a significant amount of candidates are unable to gain admission into existing universities. The options left to govt are either expand the capacities of existing universities or build new ones for wider outreach and accessibility.

Secondly, the cost of tertiary education increases many folds when people have to find rented accommodation or school accommodation in addition to paying for three meals everyday. That factor has made a lot of people drop out of school or to become part time students in full time courses. Nearness to people would aid many people of little means get through university without the need for rented accommodation. Take note that the universities would be located in new areas and away from existing ones.

Regarding the amount being spent in comparison to NASS budget, we have to bear in mind that NASS allocation is statutory and you can not get away from that unless rubbish expenditures like constituency allowance are discontinued. Furthermore, the amount of our resources allocated to recurrent expenditure (nearly 80%), of which NASS, Federal and State bodies take a large chunk will continue to ensure that govt is unable to provide the much needed development that we need in every sector, let alone education.

In my opinion, govt needs to be scaled down drastically to free up money for capital expenditure. NASS is a house of chaos as it stands and in my opinion we do not need a two tier NASS and we certainly do not need more than 76 representatives in total. There are irrelevant positions like minister for state positions which also come with their portfolio of offices and aids. We certainly do not need ministers of state and their personal assistants and other staff.

The bottom line is that we do not have much disposable income for capital expenditure and sectors like education; healthcare, publicly funded infrastructure (roads and co) will continue to be victims of under funding.

Surely, I also agree with those who think that the govt should shelve or cut non-value adding expenditure like independence rice and cake, et al and channel the savings made to other sectors.

For now, it is a good step in the right direction from GEJ to increase the amount of funding to the education sector from paltry to less paltry.

ndu_chucks:
@texazzpete, what's the matter with you? No one in his right mind is saying that they should let people continue this extremely unsafe act! The least they could do is provide enough supervision and organization to ensure that these people will not be able to ride the trains in an unsafe manner in the first place.

It is not difficult to do that. They used to have conductors effectively for these purposes.

For those who are wondering whether we have train services, please note that as far back as the late 1960s trains used to go From Lagos all the way to Kano, Jos etc. on a weekly basis. Thieving thieves have since destroyed the system.

While I was in Sec Sch, there were daily train services from Kano - Lag and PH in 1987. Later in 88 or 89 it was Mon, Wed and Fridays to PH and Tue Thu and Sats for western line.

By 1990 it was like once a week but it also became so unreliable that a 24hr journey could last up to 72 hrs. The trains broke down any how and I remember a journey in 1990 when we were stranded in Wasa (Kaduna or Plateau state) for two days on our way back to school. It was fun though and very exciting cos we always had reserved coaches alongside other FGCs and NMS. That was actually my best part of school (enough jiving in train). Regretably, I had to stop going back by train from 1990 till I left school.

Regarding those riding on train tops, they deserve to be taken to court for their own good and for others sake and for the prosperity of the rail company. I remember once when someone fell off the train top between Makurdi and Oturkpo because he did not lie low enough and was dislodged from the rooftop by a low bridge roof and he fell in between the carriages and the train was nearly derailed. We spent another two hours moving backwards to Markurdi for repairs that lasted half the day.

The govt is expected to provide good infrastructure but the citizens are also expected to be law abiding and respectful towards public property.

Kobojunkie:
The DUNCE accused me of LYING that there was a stopover in abuja when I ASKED(QUESTION MARK PEOPLE) if there wasn't one.

I have in the past ridden the train to places like Kano, even I would be shocked if there is no way to get to Abuja by train.

Madam, call me a m-oron all you like, but you you need to step back from your lies.

You said "There is already a function Lagos -> Abuja railway or doesn't the NRC currently make stops at Abuja?" Maybe you need to learn how to express yourself some more.

You said that there was a functional railway Lag-Abj and asked if the operators no longer stopped at Abuja. Someone expressed surprise and you backed up your claim by claiming to have ridden on one in the past. Yeah right, just like you once flew direct to Calabar from Atlanta. Come on Kobo, this is a new year and you are fast pushing 54 years. You gotsa turn a new leaf.

Kobojunkie:
^^^ It is heavily used, as far as I know. Rode the train myself back in the days.

What do you gain by telling lies ? Like someone asked, is there anything that you "haven't done"?

There is no line linking Lagos and Abuja so you must have done so in your dreams. The nearest line to Abuja is the Kano - Lagos line and to get to Abuja, you have to get off at Bidda, Minna or any other part of Niger state. I used the NRC line very much in my secondary School days until they packed up.

The railway lines run thus:

Kano - Line  (Lagos and PH terminus) Branching off at KDJ (Kaduna Jnuction)  for the Lagos or PH terminus.
Kano - maiduguri .
Kano or Zaria to Kaura Namoda.
Jos Line (Kano and PH terminus) Branching off at Kafanchan Junction for Kano or PH.
The most recent is the Ajaokuta - warri line (don't know if it was completed)

I still remember how long it took to travel on a good day.

Kaduna - Umuahia (24hrs) Umuahia -PH (4Hrs) Kano -kaduna (4Hrs) Kaduna -Lag (28hrs) Jos -PH (28 hrs).

Major stations Kano -PH (Zaria -KDJ- Zonkwa - Kafanchan- Mada - Lafia- Makurdi - Oturkpo- Ehamufu - Emene- Enugu- Afikpo junction- Ovim- Ameke Ibeku - Umuahia- Ibeku - Ngboko - Obioma Ngwa - Aba - ? - PH.)

Kano-Lagos ( Zaria - KDJ -  Minna - Bida- Zungeru- Mokwa , etc)

Why must you be in an all knowing situation in order to make your points ? Liars make me want to puke and to think that you are over 50 years old. very Pathetic !

Nsiman:
Kobojunkie, pls are u single?

Maybe, but she is circa 52years old. Do you still want ?

Abagworo:
We need not argue about it

I agree, just go and read about Aro and Efik

Abagworo:
Maybe you are unaware that Efik originated from Arochukwu.Visit Calabar museum or read their history.

Efik did not originate from Arochukwu, the Aro people dislodged them from a portion of their territory. Read their history as well.

Akhenaten:
Awesome Picture

Shege danuwa !!!

Many people do not know that Kano people have the oldest self-written history in Nigeria. Their weather was also kind to their architecture as the Hausa also have the oldest standing structures in Nigeria thanks to low rainfall and arid conditions.

Very interesting. Enough artworks to start a massive museum. I think the Edo govt should start trying to recover all the works and restoring old buildings if any is still standing with a view to starting a tourist museum - a good money spinner.