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Dis Guy:
the thread started in 2009, the chart is for 2011 or as he said ' the latest' from cbn website

Nope, the figures quoted in the article are the same figures on the chart, unless you are saying that Lagos and Sokoto have managed to remain same over a two year period. More over, 2011 figures are not yet out as we are barely half way through 2011.

Just wanted to point out that the IGR of Rivers State (71B) is far greater than Sokoto's (34 B) and only second to Lagos. People should make an effort to look at the chart they are quoting.

ezeagu:
Some Igbo town names have been corrupted, and some have even been changed completely because of colonialsm. Some of the meanings of town names are harder to interpret because of this. Some Igbo towns are spelt like nothing they are pronounced because of the colonisers tongue (Onitsha, Owerri, etc), yet the natives of these towns see no reason to change this. Anyway, to help with the proper pronunciation of Igbo town names, post some of their origins, even if they are not of Igbo origin.

Owerri
'Owerri' is 'Owere'. I'm not sure of this town name, but I think it either means 'free, liberty' or 'outside quarters'.

Ogwashi-Ukwu

The origin of this name is with the Nshi (Nri) people who founded this town. The name has been slightly corrupted. It is actually 'Ogwa Nshi Ukwu', meaning 'the great Nri palace' in Igbo.

Agbor
Agbor is from Agbon which is the Bini name for land.

Enugu
Enugwu means 'hill top' (Enu Ugwu) because of the hills of Ngwo, which the original village of Enugwu was part of.

Aguleri
Aguleri is from the descendant of Eri, Agulu Eri of the Nri-Igbo.

Port Harcourt
Port Harcourt was named after Viscount Lewis Harcourt by Frederick Lugard, the town was renamed from what Lugard noted as 'Iguocha' which is 'Ugwu Ocha', 'white cliffs'. The sad thing is that Harcourt killed himself after it was found that he molested boys. If there was one town needing a name change, it's this one.

Igbuzor
For some reason, Igbuzor is still being spelt Ibusa, making it the most corrupted town name in Igbo land. Igbuzor is 'Igbo bi na uzor', the 'Igbo on the road, or roadside'.

Owerri : "E were la m oke ruru la m" (I have taken my deserved inheritance). A long story about Ekwema Arugo; their ancestor who made the statement and asked to be called Owere following a dispute with his brother.

ekt_bear:
This is a pretty simple concept. Gas is distributed from Shell's pipeline to your site (you pay a fee for them to set this up.) On your site, you have a natural gas generator. This generates electricity for your business.

We already know that many of the manufacturers in Ota are taking advantage of it to power their businesses more cheaply than using diesel/petrol.

There is no reason (at least, assuming you are consuming enough gas for it to be cost-effective) you cannot generate electricity for other purposes.

Focusing on the home aspect is irrelevant. . . whether the gas is being burned to generate electricity for a business, home, church, mosque, whatever, the question is, "Am I consuming enough electricity for it to be worth my while to pay Shell to connect me to their grid?"

Most industrial processes rely on boilers and gas fired boilers remain the most cost effective way of powering the industries. Industries are also heavy consumers of gas, so Shell will be able to recoup the money the spent delivering gas to Aba and Otta industrial areas.

Gas doesn't become electricity in your house without a thermal station utilizing gas fired turbines, so you wont get a 24/7 electricity just because you have gas supply to your house.

As a home owner, you are planning to consume £2400 worth of gas per annum and you think Shell will get involved with delivering to you ? We are a long way from domestic supply of gas as it involves a lot of planning and organisation to ensure the safe delivery and consumption of the gas supplied. Domestic supply will not happen in a piece meal manner so stop being naive.

Abagworo:
@ezeuche.I am still marveled at your level of delusion.It is either you did not vote or you did not visit some polling units after election or you are deliberately lying.I voted Buhari in Port Harcourt even when they used hammer to break some peoples hand for thumbing CPC and [b]I went round several polling units to have a first hand glance at the results.Jonathan won with up to 90% but the voter turn out was roughly 28 to 32%.

In a polling unit with an average of 2000 voters,the turnout was roughly 400 across Obio/Akpo,Port Harcourt,Oyigbo,Eleme and Ikwerre LGAs.I mentioned these places I have full knowledge of.[/b]There might be 100% turn out in other places but more than half of Rivers State live in those 5 areas.

You must be related to kobojunkie who is always in an all knowing situation. Were you an INEC official ? If you were able to leave your polling unit after voting to go inspect other units and LGA's (Classic Kobojunkie lie), what makes you think that others did not leave for home or were they expected to wait for your parade review ?

The average turnout in SE/SS was 67%. States like Kaduna and Bauchi had higher turn out than all SE states bar Imo State, so why do some people want to kill themselves over what they can't prove ?

In the absence of the statistics of the dead and indisposed, 100% turnout is possible. If an individual could decide to vote, what makes that individual to imagine that other people would decide to not participate in the election ?

All those crying should take the defeat of the candidates on the chin and move on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13156508


The video from the link above (BBC) looks like a natural disaster or carpet bombing zone.

I saw your post and the Rap "Made Nig-gaz" by Pac and the OutLawz came to mind when E.D.I Mean (Idi Amin) rapped:

"picture the scenery cos now u gonna have to imagine; CALL ME A PROPHET COS I PREDICTED WHAT'S GON' HAPPEN --"

Spot on Prophet Zone.

sbeezy8:
Nonsense 40,000+ 1 local govt voters in akwa ibom but not even that many in lagos or kaduna or edo lol

Some basic maths would do you some good. The average number of registered voters /LG in Lagos is nearly 300,000 and nearly 120,000 for Kano state.

Orikinla:
[size=28pt]Dame Patience Jonathan, is from Ohuhu in Umuahia North Local Government Area of the state.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Orikinla
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[size=18pt]IGNORANCE KILLS.[/size]

Make we pour champagne ?

I hutubeghi ebe nwanne kporo nwanne ya ashi mbu, ka I che na I bu mbu ?

ndu_chucks:
lafia kalao, kai fa?

In all honesty, nothing you wrote up there shows that Buhari is not the best candidate to fight corruption/theft/looting in Nigeria. Do you honestly believe that GEJ would out do Buhari in that area? Don't you agree that corruption is our number one problem?

Given all the benefits you've enjoyed in the North, including excellent education, one would have thought by now, you would have been detribalized/deregionalized.

Although I know that corruption is a problem, it has gone on far too long to be eradicated with a magic wand and it would take time and a strong judiciary to stamp out.

Our major problems could be divided into three categories:

1. Size of government: we spend at least 80% of our budget on recurrent expenditure; with the NASS taking at least 30% share in legitimate allocation. The amount that we lose to corruption is a fraction of the remaining 20%. In my opinion, we do not need a two tier NASS and we don’t need more than 80 lawmakers to drive us forward. I have similar views for LG and State governments and they should be stripped of some statutory allowances e.g. constituency allowance.                    

The bottom line is that Nigeria is not as rich as we think if we are only going to devote less than 20% of our budget to capital projects.

The way out for us is Privatisation and I trust GEJ more than I trust Buhari or Ribadu. However, privatization would be of minimal effect with the current electricity problems, but I am impressed with GEJ and Ribadu’s plan but can’t say the same for Buhari.

GEJ also has a clear energy blue print and I would like to believe that he would follow through on the blue print, but Buhari and Ribadu have presented nothing tangible so why should I vote for them? I may like pay as you go phones, but I am not going to go for a “decide as you go president”

2. Lack of commitment: we lack commitment and continuity and do not follow through on projects and this gives room for substandard jobs and project abandonment even when the project has been paid for.

3. Weak judiciary/enforcement bodies: we have laws but the executive still interferes with the judiciary and the enforcement arm is weakened as a result of a weak judiciary.

If I were a legislator, I would pursue things like:

1.Public Contract Liability Act: This act would strengthen contracts and force contractors to work to a standard and making them responsible for durability of job with a time frame specified in the contract documents. Penalties to include heavy fines in addition to re-execution of the contracts, liquidation and jail term for directors and exclusion from running any companies.

2. Private Citizen Enforcement Act: this act would aim to give rights to private citizen to drag contractors and FG/SG to court for substandard public works, but there would be penalties for the abuse of the privilege.

When Buhari wielded absolute power, the NASS were not there to take 30% of our budget, so what did he achieve with a smaller govt and more money in his pocket? Sorry, but it is now too late act goody two shoes.

ndu_chucks:
In the past 10years, which of the major candidates can you not pin any accusation of corruption on? I submit to you that the answer is Buhari and not GEJ. Which of the major candidates would you say can do the most to reduce corruption in Nigeria? Buhari again.

Yaya dei alhaji. Ka na lahia ko ? N na geshua.

Very smart take there, but it doesn't wash. Why the past 10 years ? Buhari hasn't been in power in the last 10 years has he ? The point is that he was corrupt (overthrew a legitimate govt), caused artificial inflation, rode roughshod over the populace and they all gloated while referring to us as bloody civilians and he was brash and unrepentant about the past.

It is true that he might be a strict person same as Abacha waswitch hunting bank directors and looting us dry. His only regret may be that he was out-looted by Abacha and IBB and we are not going to give him the chance to equalize.

So we are to believe that Patience is your sister just because you said so ? In any case, have you never heard of a man killing his sibblings or parents or sons setting up their families for robbery attacks ? It's in order to have disagreements with your family, so give us other reasons why we should not vote for them other than Orikinla does not like them.

My stand is clear as to why Buhari is not the man.

He was in cahoots with fellow gangstars to turn the barrel of their guns on those who paid their wages. He continued to roll with the same people who out-muscled him in the power game and served in their government. He pretends to be disciplined, but is highly undisciplined (coup) and an ethnic bigot who saw nothing wrong in jailing 2ICs but not the head.

He even jailed the highly reverred De Sam Mbakwe, who with little resources was developing and industrializing 5 cities simultaneously.

A man who caused artificial scarcity by his policies and forced business men to sell below cost price (insensitivity and robbery). He failed then and I see no reason why he should be allowed to equalize IBB and Abacha in "lootery".

As for Ribadu, he is not the person we need and even he does not have a strong conviction about his own presidency. A man who considered stepping down for the leader of a weaker party is not fit to tie my football boot laces.

GEJ has marshalled out his policies and programmes and I am willing to give it a shot as the other two have not proferred better policies and I wont believe them if they did anyway.

It is true that ACN made gains in the elections and have become the biggest opposition so far, but they are still rock bottom minority, even when they go into alliance with other opposition parties.

With about 92( 084%) results of the senate elections released so far, they have 13 seats (14%) while PDP have 59 (64%) of the seats and we all know that ACN will be very lucky to win 3 more seats from the remaining 17 seats as all the results from their stronghold have been declared. This means that PDP have absolute majority in the senate and would only accommodate the others when it suits them so there is no gain in the opposition gloating over nothing. This is not particularly good as a sizeable opposition will make the ruling party take heed and sit up.

For the house of reps, ACN have 52 (19%) of the 264 results declared while PDP have 140 seats (53%). PDP are also likely to capture most of the undeclared seats and maintain absolute majority in the house as well.

Therefore GEJ is only being astute and leaving no stone unturned by talking with those that wish to talk with him. He does not need the other parties to help him preside over Nigeria. It is already too late in the day for the other parties to gang up on PDP and the out come of Saturday's election will not alter significantly as a result of any late horse trading.

Beaf:
[size=21pt]Kick them out![/size]

Imagine this stew from hell; a vultures paradise, brewed with the following ingredients:

Political Frontmen
Buhari (loser with 3% of Senate)
Tinubu (ACN area boy with [b]30% of Senate)[/b]
Cabal
Ibrahim Babangida (chief Buhari strategist and financier)
Atiku Abubakar (strategist Buhari and financier)
Abba Ruma (CPC strategist and almajiri/bus hirer)
Turai Yar Adua (CPC financier)
Tanimu Yakubu (CPC strategist and almajiri/bus hirer)
Muhammadu Adamu Aliero (CPC strategist and almajiri/bus hirer)

"Born to Rule" Ethnic Bigots and Preachers of Violence
Ciroma
NPLF
Northern Stakeholders
G15

Its what I call, witches brew!!! A true gathering of wildly desperate demons and vampires! . . .To "fight corruption," "listen" to the common man and "develop" Nigeria.

https://thenewsafrica.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Atiku_IBB_Ciroma.jpg

13 out of 109 is less than 12%

henry101:
[b]So you are Igbo?[/b]Are you scared to be associated with them or you feel you got so much knowledge than the average igbo man/woman
You seem to have all answers to every Nigerian problem. Always offering solutions like you can make any difference if given the opportunity.
The likes of you do the talking and no action to follow whats been offered as the solution.
You seem to be very critical of every topic discussed here but You have never shown one thing you do for the Nigerian community here in the US or even at home where you seem to claim so much knowledge about issues.
If you feel you so goood, quit typing on your keyboard and board the next available plane to Lagos and do exactly what you ve been typing on NL and lets see if you can stand the heat.
Peace.

No she is not and I have to puncture this notion before it takes root.

It is possible that s/he lived somewhere around Aba when s/he was very young (before the war or soon after since s/he is circa 55 years old). If s/he was Igbo, s/he would not claim that every one east of the Niger is Igbo and be very unrepentant about her/his thinking as well.

S/he is very deceptive and always claims to be in a position similar to the line of argument in order to score cheap points. S/he could for instance, claim that s/he had flown direct to Calabar from Atlanta in order to prove that there were direct flights between the cities or even claim that s/he did not know that there was an airport in a city because while she was in that city, s/he did not find any "help desk" to ask about the existence of an airport, but she would be the first to rush to google to become an internet expert in heart surgery, brick laying, magics and any other thing under the sun.

S/he has told enough LIES to get caught in her/his own web and only a naive person would engage her/his in endless cycles of arguments.
As an article of trade, s/he would come with a label "CAVEAT EMPTOR"

Dede1:
The roads in your post were the handiwork of Senator Ifeanyi Arurume. I travelled on the network of roads in 2004 from Umuahia to Amaraku/Anara.

Abeg Dede jie brake. How and when did Ararume build those roads ?

Kennyblues:
The place looks more like the state's secretariat. Every state's secretariat is always like so it is not enough prove that Imo is working

That's Modotel (Ekwueme's hotel) which has been there for nearly 30 years. The round about is as old as Owerri and there have always been flowers there, but he can take credit for replanting the flowers and repainting the round about.

Ohakim's style is to try and steal credit for facilities that were there before him e.g Concorde Boulevard in New Owerri (Mbakwe), Dualization of Onitsha Road (Federal road) and many more.

Owerri has always been a clean area and is indeed, very easy to clean because it is quite modern and orderly with very good town planning. It is his responsibility to keep it clean so why should we pour champaign because he is doing his job ?

People died when Nekede bridge collapsed under vehicular weight because of Nworie River dredging. Nworie is 9km in length and flows in Otamiri, so is he also going to dredge Otamiri all the way to Rivers state and the atlantic ?

No one likes Ohakim in Imo and he should go.

kalokalo:
It WAS Lafarge and NOT Dangote that petitioned Obasanjo about Ibeto. The policy was that only importers with evidence of cement backward integration would be allowed to import and Ibeto was not moving towards manufacturing. I

It was the same policy that forced Dangote to jettison importation for local cement manufacturing. Isn't it interesting that after all the noise Ibeto made about breaking Dangote's( imaginary) monopoly in cement, we have not heard anything about him again.

Four years after Yaradua restored his license to import, Ibeto still has not invested a kobo in local cement manufacturing while all others in the industry are expanding and building new plants in compliance with the backward integration policy in cement.

Again, Ibeto is just symptomatic of Nigerian businessmen that prefer to import (buying and selling) for decades with no interest in producing anything!!

If you don't know about someone, just keep quiet.

Ibeto is easily one of the richest men in Nigeria and he doesn't want to go public. He is a billionaire in hard currency and he is not even listed. He is into commodities, petro chemicals, real estate, auto spare parts manufacturing etc.

Follow the link below to take a little peep at his business concerns. Dangote gained advantage over him in cement business when OBJ weighed in against him in favor of Dangote.

http://www.ibeto.com/

Beaf:
I don't think anything can save Nigeria from these lockups, because there are pockets of extreme ethnic bigotry that make the Presidents security a matter to be taken very seriously.

We shouldn't be too quick to forget how he was openly warned that he would be shot by snipers if he laid the wreath for the unknown soldier. He braved it, but that shouldn't happen everyday. So until some Nigerians stop the shocking displays of ethnic hatred, we will continue to have our airspace closed.

Shutting down the air space because of presidential movement (if that was the case)was an extreme and callous measure, which GEJ might not have been aware of or if he was aware of that , shows lack of good judgement on his part.

Shutting down an air space without warning could lead to loss of lives and heavy economic losses. Reports show that most air crashes are a result of human error.

I also support GEJ, but it becomes a tough job at times to defend some issues surrounding him, don't you think so ?

texazzpete:
This debate has taken a hilarious turn.
It's funny how people get up in arms over tribal sentiments. One would hope that the likes of Demain_man and FACE would happily pick an Innoson motor over a Toyota Camry. One also hopes that they are currently typing on a Zinox laptop (remember say na one of una people get Zinox).

Did I also see someone say prospective owners should check the vehicle manuals for safety test information AFTER making the purchase?

No, you are seeing double. That "someone" said that prospective owners should ask questions before they buy. That's how I buy my things and that is a reasonable way to go about any purchase. They can also request to see the manual prior to sale agreement.

FACE does not live in Nigeria and he doesn't need another car for when he is in Nigeria, but he would consider buying Innoson when the need arises. If I could buy Tiny computer, why would I refuse to  buy Zinox ? In any case, I am not moved by Camry and I would give it the same consideration as Kia.

Once again, you know nothing about the internal QC of Innoson and cannot make negative comment on their procedure just because they have not sent you a special copy of their safety checks, unless you have an ulterior motive for vehemently opposing the vehicles.

texazzpete:
Most car manufacturers have critical safety information on their websites. Most of them also have been stress tested by several regulatory bodies and the results are in the public domain.
With Innoson, we have nothing. There is no guarantee for customers that the vehicles will not crumple like a tin can on impact.
Look, i am all for supporting the local industry as much as possible, but i'm far more passionate about optimal use of taxpayers' money.

All cars crumple on serious impact, but additional devices make them safer.

How do you know that the information you want on the website is not in the car manual ? When people buy things, they also ask questions, therefore I expect that it would be to the company's detriment if they are unable to address any questions about their products. Like I said before, they need a more dynamic website in order to sell their products. However, anyone who doesn't ask questions while buying is also unlikely to look at the websites.

The stress test you talk about is mainly in-house and aimed at improving engineering/quality/cost. External bodies actually look at your procedure, compare that with your practice / records and make sure you are working/manufacturing to an acceptable international standard.

When you hear that Toyota has recalled some cars, it is actually as a result of either consumer complaint investigated by the QC dept or as a result of internal QC of the product. I once worked in a company where we had to recall a product because lab tests showed one of the components to be out of spec, an error which could been corrected before packaging. We also had cases of destruction of products cause it might cost more money trying to redeem them.

My point is that as our procedure was not displayed on our website, it did not signify the absence of such procedure and we would have been able to provide information to those that need to know. I expect the same to apply to Innoson.

Kobojunkie:
[s]Now we are talking . . . instead of folks feeding us with ridiculously silly tribal reasons for why the company was not given this order, I would instead they, the consumers who feel these vehicles are worth it, and the company worth it's grain, even with not a lot of information of this out there, go out and get people to buy these cars.[/s] Those self-made tribal warriors can as well take it on themselves to at least convince the public in their tribal area to buy Innoson. [s]With over 8 million in the East, it should not be too difficult for innoson to capture the market if quality is a non-issue as some are quick to claim.

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An those self made one foot in the grave , approaching 60 years old, jobless 21000 post and counting, lying, know it all hypocrites should abstain from talking rubbish all the time.

texazzpete:
Funny how Innoson motors is quick to trumpet all the accolades they received from GEJ on their website, but no single information on crash safety tests on their website.

Safety must be given a priority in all vehicle purchases. I suggest the federal Government holds off any purchase from these guys until their vehicles go through rigorous testing.

Do you expect him to have the company's operation/standard procedure on public display just to make you happy ? How do you know that they do not have QC, risk assessment, product review/assessment and health and safety procedure in place ? Why do you not apply the same standard to other car manufacturers who do not have details of their safety checks on the net except for passing comments on their latest technology ?

Why do people talk rubbish all the time rather than keep quiet if they do not know ?

Innoson is a titan and has done very well with his other manufacturing industries including motor cycle assembly. Of course, his plant and other plants in Nigeria ought to enjoy some form of govt protection and patronage, but I am sure he has his game plan and has simply got on with his money making regardless of what people think.

Someone mentioned that people might not really know about their products. Valid point in my opinion and I think they should invest in adverts (NTA, live footy, etc) and also make their website to be dynamic to enable people get good information about their products.

PhysicsRND:
Reading that again, I have to say that it doesn't prove that they would have been able to distinguish between Igbos and Igbo-cultured Ijaws.


When I first read that I was under the impression that the "Quaws" might have been a reference to the Ijaws, considering the ferocious warlike manner they are described in other accounts of European explorers, but the "Quaws" could not be the Ijaws. Not only do the Quaws have horrible relations with Europeans ("whites fell victim to their fury at Bonny" and Igbos, they file their teeth, which the Ijaw have never been described or known as practicing.


However it seems pretty clear that the "Appa" or "Appas" tribe described very negatively there are the Apoi clan of the Ijaw. So Hugh Crow successfully identified some Ijaw from Igbos and Igbos with ichi marks.

Nevertheless the point still stands, even if he could distinguish between Igbos and ordinary Ijaws, how would he tell Igbos from Ijaw settlers who adopted Igbo culture, language, etc.? Like I said before there was no political or social reason for all of those people (Kalabiri, Bonny, Okrika) to have independently and consistently created or recited tales of an Ijaw origin, but they did.

Please note that this is referring even to the Western Ijaws, next to Isokos. Iguana reverence was there naturally as part of their beliefs.

How on earth could something as unique and bizarre as Iguana reverence and worship have come to be among Bonny and very prominent in Bonny society, if they were not actually descended from original Ijaw migrants who became "Igbo-like" over time, though acculturation, marriage, trade, etc.?


I think these were "Igbofied" Ijaw states.

How can Bonny be an Igbofied Ijaw state ? You pointed at possible migration of Ijaws from the western axis and still concluded that they must have been the original inhabitants of Bonny. Unless migration of Ndi Igbo to Bonny was in the form of a massive invasion with overwhelming population, there is no way they could have lost their language to Igbo.

By all accounts, Bonny was a trading port and 14 houses were mentioned but the activities of two of those houses (Manila and Pepple) were given in detail as a result of their dominance of the other houses. Those two houses were headed by Igbo people; strange achievements by outsiders.

I conclude that if the history of the remaining twelve houses had been told like the other two houses, I would not be surprised to find that they were Igbo led as well. The tail does not wag the dog, therefore smaller groups do not swallow up larger groups/original groups and it is evident in Bonny and Opobo.

The iguana illustration could be likened to Nottinghill carnival, which is celebrated annually in London. It doesn't some how infer that the Carribeans were in London before the English. Language is dynamic but culture is far more dynamic than language as interesting cultures are more readily adopted by other cultures.

If the Ijaws became Igbo like, it simply means that they were in the minority and were also the later migrants. If they settled and adopted Igbo culture, they did not adopt the culture out of no where and it simply means that the culture was there before their arrival.

What matters now is how they view themselves today.

ChinenyeN:
No, don't be. I'm just curious as to what you may have meant by PCI.
It's very cheep of you to site Aba as an excuse example for your assertion. We all know that Aba is commercial hub. So, it's no wonder Ngwa isn't particularly spoken there, but it is foolish to use Aba as a way to measure the loss of an entire clan's okwu; and not just any clan, Ngwa specifically, a large clan that can probably host 10+ more Aba's and then some. So don't over-assert your point, and don't even think you're making a point which I can even take seriously.

Also urbanization does not equal loss of okwu. I know many urbanized Ngwa families who haven't lost okwu Ngwa. I personally know a number of youth born and raised here in the states that speak fluent Ngwa. I myself am third-generation urbanized. My grandfather moved from our ama and settled in Aba. He spoke thorough Ngwa. My father is a city boy, born and raised in Aba (he speaks thorough Ngwa). I was born in Lagos, visited Aba only once, not to even talk of my own amaala, left for the states (one of the most urbanized of urban countries) when I was 5 or 6, and I've been here ever since, but I speak thorough Ngwa and Ngwa only. So don't over-assert your point. Urbanization does not equal loss of okwu.

And lastly, as I stated earlier, I doubt your assertion. It's not to say that some peoples won't lose their tongues. Of course, I believe that some clans will (if they haven't already), but I seriously doubt that it will ever be as your asserting; that the tongues of each and every clan will be but a distant memory. I seriously doubt that, and my doubt has nothing to do with Ngwa. I just simply doubt the reality of you assertion. . . that and my detest for your 'one Igbo' yarns, in particular.

So liala hnwe ojoo nwa Nmogho. Ogwe m agbasoola gh' titi.

Ezeuche said the truth, he used Aba as an example but the same applies to other areas in Igboland.

If you were born in Sweden to English parents with Yorkshire accent and they spoke to you in that accent, you would be more fluent in that accent than any other English accent because that is the accent you were exposed to. If you listen to most kids born outside Igbo land, you would find that a lot of them are only able to communicate in the dialect they speak at home.

If you were born in US and moved to Sweden at the age of 5, you would still retain your American accent as that is the only variation of English you were exposed to. However, if you moved to England rather than Sweden, you would start to speak in English accent afetr a while. The same applies to your case.

The Igbo spoken in Urban areas in Igbo land belongs to no one in particular and the dialects would converge with the passage of time. I can tell you that the way my dad and other elders in my clan speak is slightly different from the way the younger generations speak.

As per your okwu; no language is static and the dynamism of your okwu will ensure that it converges with other dialects with time and the fastest way is through urbanisation which will surely spread to your entire land with time (same as other lands)

ezeagu:
I didn't hear any 'du' or 'gu', that's the point. Ohuhu sounds the closest to Central Igbo I've heard, and this is because the people who created Central Igbo based it partly on Ohuhu. Geography is the not the issue, I mentioned Google Maps to show that it would be useless to try and test somebody about geography with the internet around.

Normally, I would have given up on you a long time ago but I can't take you spewing utter ignorance about Umuahia. You don't even know the area you are talking about. I have been telling you that Ohuhu dialect and Ibeku and most other parts of Umuahia are nearly the same with very slight variations only noticeable by someone from Umuahia and someone who can speak Umuahia dialects.

You argued about words you have no clue about and I went through the pains of giving you a link and telling you that the dialect was Umuahia across the board with slight variations and you keep hammering on Ohuhu.

You said that the express splits Ohuhu from Umuopara and I said na lie and informed you that the express passed through Umuopara at Amachara near Ossah Ibeku(google failed you there).

You said central Igbo was based on Ohuhu and now you have shifted gears to "partly based" on Ohuhu. (That was never in contention as I had earlier said that it was based on Imo/Abia/Enugu).

I promise you this time around; I'm really done with this unending argument.