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Politics / Re: Tinubu Flown To Abuja In Presidential Jet by FACE(m): 6:56pm On Apr 13, 2011
It is true that ACN made gains in the elections and have become the biggest opposition so far, but they are still rock bottom minority, even when they go into alliance with other opposition parties.

With about 92( 084%) results of the senate elections released so far, they have 13 seats (14%) while PDP have 59 (64%) of the seats and we all know that ACN will be very lucky to win 3 more seats from the remaining 17 seats as all the results from their stronghold have been declared. This means that PDP have absolute majority in the senate and would only accommodate the others when it suits them so there is no gain in the opposition gloating over nothing. This is not particularly good as a sizeable opposition will make the ruling party take heed and sit up.

For the house of reps, ACN have 52 (19%) of the 264 results declared while PDP have 140 seats (53%). PDP are also likely to capture most of the undeclared seats and maintain absolute majority in the house as well.

Therefore GEJ is only being astute and leaving no stone unturned by talking with those that wish to talk with him. He does not need the other parties to help him preside over Nigeria. It is already too late in the day for the other parties to gang up on PDP and the out come of Saturday's election will not alter significantly as a result of any late horse trading.
Politics / Re: PDP Is Bad? Witness The So Called "progressives!" Lol! by FACE(m): 1:24pm On Apr 13, 2011
Beaf:

[size=21pt]Kick them out![/size]

Imagine this stew from hell; a vultures paradise, brewed with the following ingredients:

Political Frontmen
Buhari (loser with 3% of Senate)
Tinubu (ACN area boy with [b]30% of Senate)[/b]
Cabal
Ibrahim Babangida (chief Buhari strategist and financier)
Atiku Abubakar (strategist Buhari and financier)
Abba Ruma (CPC strategist and almajiri/bus hirer)
Turai Yar Adua (CPC financier)
Tanimu Yakubu (CPC strategist and almajiri/bus hirer)
Muhammadu Adamu Aliero (CPC strategist and almajiri/bus hirer)

"Born to Rule" Ethnic Bigots and Preachers of Violence
Ciroma
NPLF
Northern Stakeholders
G15

Its what I call, witches brew!!! A true gathering of wildly desperate demons and vampires! . . .To "fight corruption," "listen" to the common man and "develop" Nigeria.



13 out of 109 is less than 12%
Politics / Re: Igbo Leaders In North Back Jonathan by FACE(m): 10:02am On Apr 13, 2011
henry101:

[b]So you are Igbo?[/b]Are you scared to be associated with them or you feel you got so much knowledge than the average igbo man/woman
You seem to have all answers to every Nigerian problem. Always offering solutions like you can make any difference if given the opportunity.
The likes of you do the talking and no action to follow whats been offered as the solution.
You seem to be very critical of every topic discussed here but You have never shown one thing you do for the Nigerian community here in the US or even at home where you seem to claim so much knowledge about issues.
If you feel you so goood, quit typing on your keyboard and board the next available plane to Lagos and do exactly what you ve been typing on NL and lets see if you can stand the heat.
Peace.

No she is not and I have to puncture this notion before it takes root.

It is possible that s/he lived somewhere around Aba when s/he was very young (before the war or soon after since s/he is circa 55 years old). If s/he was Igbo, s/he would not claim that every one east of the Niger is Igbo and be very unrepentant about her/his thinking as well.

S/he is very deceptive and always claims to be in a position similar to the line of argument in order to score cheap points. S/he could for instance, claim that s/he had flown direct to Calabar from Atlanta in order to prove that there were direct flights between the cities or even claim that s/he did not know that there was an airport in a city because while she was in that city, s/he did not find any "help desk" to ask about the existence of an airport, but she would be the first to rush to google to become an internet expert in heart surgery, brick laying, magics and any other thing under the sun.

S/he has told enough LIES to get caught in her/his own web and only a naive person would engage her/his in endless cycles of arguments.
As an article of trade, s/he would come with a label "CAVEAT EMPTOR"
Politics / Re: Ohakim Is A Silent Achiever- Obasanjo by FACE(m): 7:42pm On Apr 01, 2011
Dede1:


The roads in your post were the handiwork of Senator Ifeanyi Arurume. I travelled on the network of roads in 2004 from Umuahia to Amaraku/Anara.

Abeg Dede jie brake. How and when did Ararume build those roads ?
Politics / Re: Wow! What A New Face! by FACE(m): 9:24pm On Mar 30, 2011
Kennyblues:

The place looks more like the state's secretariat. Every state's secretariat is always like so it is not enough prove that Imo is working

That's Modotel (Ekwueme's hotel) which has been there for nearly 30 years. The round about is as old as Owerri and there have always been flowers there, but he can take credit for replanting the flowers and repainting the round about.

Ohakim's style is to try and steal credit for facilities that were there before him e.g Concorde Boulevard in New Owerri (Mbakwe), Dualization of Onitsha Road (Federal road) and many more.

Owerri has always been a clean area and is indeed, very easy to clean because it is quite modern and orderly with very good town planning. It is his responsibility to keep it clean so why should we pour champaign because he is doing his job ?

People died when Nekede bridge collapsed under vehicular weight because of Nworie River dredging. Nworie is 9km in length and flows in Otamiri, so is he also going to dredge Otamiri all the way to Rivers state and the atlantic ?

No one likes Ohakim in Imo and he should go.
Business / Re: 2011 Forbes Rating: Aliko Dangote Ups Wealth To 14 Billion Dollars by FACE(m): 7:58pm On Mar 10, 2011
kalokalo:

It WAS Lafarge and NOT Dangote that petitioned Obasanjo about Ibeto. The policy was that only importers with evidence of cement backward integration would be allowed to import and Ibeto was not moving towards manufacturing. I

It was the same policy that forced Dangote to jettison importation for local cement manufacturing. Isn't it interesting that after all the noise Ibeto made about breaking Dangote's( imaginary) monopoly in cement, we have not heard anything about him again.

Four years after Yaradua restored his license to import, Ibeto still has not invested a kobo in local cement manufacturing while all others in the industry are expanding and building new plants in compliance with the backward integration policy in cement.

Again, Ibeto is just symptomatic of Nigerian businessmen that prefer to import (buying and selling) for decades with no interest in producing anything!!

If you don't know about someone, just keep quiet.

Ibeto is easily one of the richest men in Nigeria and he doesn't want to go public. He is a billionaire in hard currency and he is not even listed. He is into commodities, petro chemicals, real estate, auto spare parts manufacturing etc.

Follow the link below to take a little peep at his business concerns. Dangote gained advantage over him in cement business when OBJ weighed in against him in favor of Dangote.

http://www.ibeto.com/
Politics / Re: Jonathan Locks Oshiomhole Out Of Benin by FACE(m): 10:16am On Feb 27, 2011
Beaf:

I don't think anything can save Nigeria from these lockups, because there are pockets of extreme ethnic bigotry that make the Presidents security a matter to be taken very seriously.

We shouldn't be too quick to forget how he was openly warned that he would be shot by snipers if he laid the wreath for the unknown soldier. He braved it, but that shouldn't happen everyday. So until some Nigerians stop the shocking displays of ethnic hatred, we will continue to have our airspace closed.

Shutting down the air space because of presidential movement (if that was the case)was an extreme and callous measure, which GEJ might not have been aware of or if he was aware of that , shows lack of good judgement on his part.

Shutting down an air space without warning could lead to loss of lives and heavy economic losses. Reports show that most air crashes are a result of human error.

I also support GEJ, but it becomes a tough job at times to defend some issues surrounding him, don't you think so ?
Politics / Re: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by FACE(m): 1:58am On Feb 25, 2011
texazzpete:

This debate has taken a hilarious turn.
It's funny how people get up in arms over tribal sentiments. One would hope that the likes of Demain_man and FACE would happily pick an Innoson motor over a Toyota Camry. One also hopes that they are currently typing on a Zinox laptop (remember say na one of una people get Zinox).

Did I also see someone say prospective owners should check the vehicle manuals for safety test information AFTER making the purchase? grin

No, you are seeing double. That "someone" said that prospective owners should ask questions before they buy. That's how I buy my things and that is a reasonable way to go about any purchase. They can also request to see the manual prior to sale agreement.

FACE does not live in Nigeria and he doesn't need another car for when he is in Nigeria, but he would consider buying Innoson when the need arises. If I could buy Tiny computer, why would I refuse to  buy Zinox ? In any case, I am not moved by Camry and I would give it the same consideration as Kia.

Once again, you know nothing about the internal QC of Innoson and cannot make negative comment on their procedure just because they have not sent you a special copy of their safety checks, unless you have an ulterior motive for vehemently opposing the vehicles.
Politics / Re: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by FACE(m): 2:02pm On Feb 24, 2011
texazzpete:

Most car manufacturers have critical safety information on their websites. Most of them also have been stress tested by several regulatory bodies and the results are in the public domain.
With Innoson, we have nothing. There is no guarantee for customers that the vehicles will not crumple like a tin can on impact.
Look, i am all for supporting the local industry as much as possible, but i'm far more passionate about optimal use of taxpayers' money.

All cars crumple on serious impact, but additional devices make them safer.

How do you know that the information you want on the website is not in the car manual ? When people buy things, they also ask questions, therefore I expect that it would be to the company's detriment if they are unable to address any questions about their products. Like I said before, they need a more dynamic website in order to sell their products. However, anyone who doesn't ask questions while buying is also unlikely to look at the websites.

The stress test you talk about is mainly in-house and aimed at improving engineering/quality/cost. External bodies actually look at your procedure, compare that with your practice / records and make sure you are working/manufacturing to an acceptable international standard.

When you hear that Toyota has recalled some cars, it is actually as a result of either consumer complaint investigated by the QC dept or as a result of internal QC of the product. I once worked in a company where we had to recall a product because lab tests showed one of the components to be out of spec, an error which could been corrected before packaging. We also had cases of destruction of products cause it might cost more money trying to redeem them.

My point is that as our procedure was not displayed on our website, it did not signify the absence of such procedure and we would have been able to provide information to those that need to know. I expect the same to apply to Innoson.
Politics / Re: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by FACE(m): 1:12pm On Feb 24, 2011
Kobojunkie:

[s]Now we are talking . . . instead of folks feeding us with ridiculously silly tribal reasons for why the company was not given this order, I would instead they, the consumers who feel these vehicles are worth it, and the company worth it's grain, even with not a lot of information of this out there, go out and get people to buy these cars.[/s] Those self-made tribal warriors can as well take it on themselves to at least convince the public in their tribal area to buy Innoson. [s]With over 8 million in the East, it should not be too difficult for innoson to capture the market if quality is a non-issue as some are quick to claim.
[/s]

An those self made one foot in the grave , approaching 60 years old, jobless 21000 post and counting, lying, know it all hypocrites should abstain from talking rubbish all the time.
Politics / Re: Nigeria To Buy Buses From China, When We Have 2 Bus Manufacturing Company by FACE(m): 12:16pm On Feb 24, 2011
texazzpete:

Funny how Innoson motors is quick to trumpet all the accolades they received from GEJ on their website, but no single information on crash safety tests on their website.

Safety must be given a priority in all vehicle purchases. I suggest the federal Government holds off any purchase from these guys until their vehicles go through rigorous testing.

Do you expect him to have the company's operation/standard procedure on public display just to make you happy ? How do you know that they do not have QC, risk assessment, product review/assessment and health and safety procedure in place ? Why do you not apply the same standard to other car manufacturers who do not have details of their safety checks on the net except for passing comments on their latest technology ?

Why do people talk rubbish all the time rather than keep quiet if they do not know ?

Innoson is a titan and has done very well with his other manufacturing industries including motor cycle assembly. Of course, his plant and other plants in Nigeria ought to enjoy some form of govt protection and patronage, but I am sure he has his game plan and has simply got on with his money making regardless of what people think.

Someone mentioned that people might not really know about their products. Valid point in my opinion and I think they should invest in adverts (NTA, live footy, etc) and also make their website to be dynamic to enable people get good information about their products.
Culture / Re: The True Extent Of Alaigbo (Igboland) by FACE(m): 1:15pm On Feb 19, 2011
PhysicsRND:

Reading that again, I have to say that it doesn't prove that they would have been able to distinguish between Igbos and Igbo-cultured Ijaws.


When I first read that I was under the impression that the "Quaws" might have been a reference to the Ijaws, considering the ferocious warlike manner they are described in other accounts of European explorers, but the "Quaws" could not be the Ijaws. Not only do the Quaws have horrible relations with Europeans ("whites fell victim to their fury at Bonny"wink and Igbos, they file their teeth, which the Ijaw have never been described or known as practicing.


However it seems pretty clear that the "Appa" or "Appas" tribe described very negatively there are the Apoi clan of the Ijaw. So Hugh Crow successfully identified some Ijaw from Igbos and Igbos with ichi marks.

Nevertheless the point still stands, even if he could distinguish between Igbos and ordinary Ijaws, how would he tell Igbos from Ijaw settlers who adopted Igbo culture, language, etc.? Like I said before there was no political or social reason for all of those people (Kalabiri, Bonny, Okrika) to have independently and consistently created or recited tales of an Ijaw origin, but they did.

Please note that this is referring even to the Western Ijaws, next to Isokos. Iguana reverence was there naturally as part of their beliefs.

How on earth could something as unique and bizarre as Iguana reverence and worship have come to be among Bonny and very prominent in Bonny society, if they were not actually descended from original Ijaw migrants who became "Igbo-like" over time, though acculturation, marriage, trade, etc.?


I think these were "Igbofied" Ijaw states.


How can Bonny be an Igbofied Ijaw state ? You pointed at possible migration of Ijaws from the western axis and still concluded that they must have been the original inhabitants of Bonny. Unless migration of Ndi Igbo to Bonny was in the form of a massive invasion with overwhelming population, there is no way they could have lost their language to Igbo.

By all accounts, Bonny was a trading port and 14 houses were mentioned but the activities of two of those houses (Manila and Pepple) were given in detail as a result of their dominance of the other houses. Those two houses were headed by Igbo people; strange achievements by outsiders.

I conclude that if the history of the remaining twelve houses had been told like the other two houses, I would not be surprised to find that they were Igbo led as well. The tail does not wag the dog, therefore smaller groups do not swallow up larger groups/original groups and it is evident in Bonny and Opobo.

The iguana illustration could be likened to Nottinghill carnival, which is celebrated annually in London. It doesn't some how infer that the Carribeans were in London before the English. Language is dynamic but culture is far more dynamic than language as interesting cultures are more readily adopted by other cultures.

If the Ijaws became Igbo like, it simply means that they were in the minority and were also the later migrants. If they settled and adopted Igbo culture, they did not adopt the culture out of no where and it simply means that the culture was there before their arrival.

What matters now is how they view themselves today.
Culture / Re: Which Igbo Dialect Do You Like The Most by FACE(m): 2:46pm On Feb 17, 2011
ChinenyeN:

No, don't be. I'm just curious as to what you may have meant by PCI.
It's very cheep of you to site Aba as an excuse example for your assertion. We all know that Aba is commercial hub. So, it's no wonder Ngwa isn't particularly spoken there, but it is foolish to use Aba as a way to measure the loss of an entire clan's okwu; and not just any clan, Ngwa specifically, a large clan that can probably host 10+ more Aba's and then some. So don't over-assert your point, and don't even think you're making a point which I can even take seriously.

Also urbanization does not equal loss of okwu. I know many urbanized Ngwa families who haven't lost okwu Ngwa. I personally know a number of youth born and raised here in the states that speak fluent Ngwa. I myself am third-generation urbanized. My grandfather moved from our ama and settled in Aba. He spoke thorough Ngwa. My father is a city boy, born and raised in Aba (he speaks thorough Ngwa). I was born in Lagos, visited Aba only once, not to even talk of my own amaala, left for the states (one of the most urbanized of urban countries) when I was 5 or 6, and I've been here ever since, but I speak thorough Ngwa and Ngwa only. So don't over-assert your point. Urbanization does not equal loss of okwu.

And lastly, as I stated earlier, I doubt your assertion. It's not to say that some peoples won't lose their tongues. Of course, I believe that some clans will (if they haven't already), but I seriously doubt that it will ever be as your asserting; that the tongues of each and every clan will be but a distant memory. I seriously doubt that, and my doubt has nothing to do with Ngwa. I just simply doubt the reality of you assertion. . . that and my detest for your 'one Igbo' yarns, in particular.

So liala hnwe ojoo nwa Nmogho. Ogwe m agbasoola gh' titi.

Ezeuche said the truth, he used Aba as an example but the same applies to other areas in Igboland.

If you were born in Sweden to English parents with Yorkshire accent and they spoke to you in that accent, you would be more fluent in that accent than any other English accent because that is the accent you were exposed to. If you listen to most kids born outside Igbo land, you would find that a lot of them are only able to communicate in the dialect they speak at home.

If you were born in US and moved to Sweden at the age of 5, you would still retain your American accent as that is the only variation of English you were exposed to. However, if you moved to England rather than Sweden, you would start to speak in English accent afetr a while. The same applies to your case.

The Igbo spoken in Urban areas in Igbo land belongs to no one in particular and the dialects would converge with the passage of time. I can tell you that the way my dad and other elders in my clan speak is slightly different from the way the younger generations speak.

As per your okwu; no language is static and the dynamism of your okwu will ensure that it converges with other dialects with time and the fastest way is through urbanisation which will surely spread to your entire land with time (same as other lands)
Culture / Re: Which Igbo Dialect Do You Like The Most by FACE(m): 9:45pm On Feb 15, 2011
ezeagu:

I didn't hear any 'du' or 'gu', that's the point. Ohuhu sounds the closest to Central Igbo I've heard, and this is because the people who created Central Igbo based it partly on Ohuhu. Geography is the not the issue, I mentioned Google Maps to show that it would be useless to try and test somebody about geography with the internet around.

Normally, I would have given up on you a long time ago but I can't take you spewing utter ignorance about Umuahia. You don't even know the area you are talking about. I have been telling you that Ohuhu dialect and Ibeku and most other parts of Umuahia are nearly the same with very slight variations only noticeable by someone from Umuahia and someone who can speak Umuahia dialects.

You argued about words you have no clue about and I went through the pains of giving you a link and telling you that the dialect was Umuahia across the board with slight variations and you keep hammering on Ohuhu.

You said that the express splits Ohuhu from Umuopara and I said na lie and informed you that the express passed through Umuopara at Amachara near Ossah Ibeku(google failed you there).

You said central Igbo was based on Ohuhu and now you have shifted gears to "partly based" on Ohuhu. (That was never in contention as I had earlier said that it was based on Imo/Abia/Enugu).

I promise you this time around; I'm really done with this unending argument.
Culture / Re: Which Igbo Dialect Do You Like The Most by FACE(m): 9:25am On Feb 15, 2011
ezeagu:

I don't need to tell you about geography because it's already on Google Maps.

Ohuhu and Umuokpara speak the same thing, and their cultures haven't changed from each other. The thing you wrote as Umuahia dialect was probably just Ibeku because it didn't sound like Ohuhu.

'Du' and 'gu' does not exist in Ohuhu.

The 'henahu' is just a variation of Ohuhu, but the majority say 'Ihe ahu'.


No point going any further. You rely on google maps and your perception and I am telling you as a native of the area. You make me laff with this your "Ohuhu and Umuokpara" thingy. Where does Ohuhu start from and where does it end ? Same question applies to Ibeku and Umuokpara. You like to argue this Umuahia thing with me all the time and I wonder on what grounds. "Du and Gu" do not exist in Ohuhu ? Hahahahahahahahahha. Shows how much you know.

Listen to the Ohuhu music below. That's Umuahia dialect with very slght variations across the board. The first track in particular. check 2:16 - 2:31


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pjopLWD_aQ
Culture / Re: Which Igbo Dialect Do You Like The Most by FACE(m): 12:33pm On Feb 14, 2011
ezeagu:

That is not Ohuhu. I've heard it, it would be "I futawa, wetara m ihe ahu" just like central Igbo. The thing you wrote seems more like Ngwa. One of the differences with Ohuhu and Central Igbo is the bu which Ohuhu uses wu, another is the fact that Ohuhu use their nose a lot and add a lot of 'shi', ('O shi gini'/'O si gini', 'Ishi'/'Isi', sukoshuo onu',), and they use 'j' (as in the French way of saying it) instead of 'z' in a lot of words (jim/zim), apart from that there's little different between the two. Most people have difficulty understanding anything from Owerre so it can't be the main base of Central Igbo. And I know about the different groups, Ohuhu and Umuokpara speak the same thing because Umuokpara split from the Ohuhu community, the Enugu-Port Harcourt motorway splits the two communities.

Can anyone guess this dialect.

Ebe ki joko? Kiwuzi ohun? Yi e rizini igi?

Ok, I give it to you. You have an idea of Umuahia dialect. All what you described is Umuahia dialect from north to south and not limited to Ohuhu. As per "henahu", I dey laff because you don't know what you are saying. Growing up, I had a friend that I always teased by calling him "Henahu of Umukabia" and you are telling me what ?

The express split Umuopara at Amachara (Umuopara) which borders the Ibeku clan of Ossah. The express also splits Ohuhu at Nkwoegwu and Umukabia with the western part towards Imo River. Ohuhu sits on top of Umuopara, geographycally the same direction as the express. If you say otherwise, tell me the Umuopara and Ohuhu communities on opposit sides of the express.

Ok, so you think that because you read that Umuopara split from Ohuhu, that you can now conclude that they speak the same thing and other Umuahia clans speak differently ? Shows how much you know.

Our dialects are nearly the same with very slight variations. Are you telling me that a person from Umunwanwa ( Umuopara) speaks more like someone from Nkwoegwu (Ohuhu) than someone from Ossah (Ibeku) ? I dey laff. For your infomation, Ibeku sits right in the middle of the other clans of Umuahia and shares borders with Ohuhu (N) Umuopara (W) Olokoro &co (S),Oboro & co(E)

Ka m jugharikwa gi ozo : I bu onye Umuahia ?
Culture / Re: Which Igbo Dialect Do You Like The Most by FACE(m): 8:12pm On Feb 13, 2011
ezeagu:

Central Igbo is based on Ohuhu.

[center][img]http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=22s8AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA170&img=1&pgis=1&dq=%22of+1941+approximated+to+the+dialect+of+Ohuhu%22&sig=ACfU3U2xkd62QsLV1MPiy5LV5qqqN9yx3Q&edge=0[/img][/center]

Ndụñọde: Calabar journal of the humanities, Volume 3, Issue 1

http://books.google.com/books?id=fr_uW5b73UYC&pg=PA105&dq=central+igbo+ohuhu&hl=en&ei=av9XTdzQOoSohAeTwLyoDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=Ohuhu&f=false

I've heard Ohuhu, and this:

is not it.

I am not going to argue this any further. Don't believe every thing you read especially when you read only sections that suit you.

You are planning to teach me our dialects how?

Central Igbo would say "I putawa, wetara m ihe ahu" Ohunu equivalent is : "I futawa, wetaru m henahu" Ibeku would say " I futawa, wetaru m Ihe o" (all "o"s and "u"s have dots under). If you want to hear Ohuhu, you have to hear it in Ohuhu or from a person that grew up in Ohuhu. By the way, Ohuhu say olia too and the other ones I mentioned are mainly spoken at compound/family levels.People are more likely to speak Urban Umuahia these days. Maybe you do not realise that when people talk about Umuahia, they are invariably referring to Ibeku which forms a large chunk of Umuahia which includes Ohuhu, Umuopara, Ubaka, Olokoro, Umunwanwa etc. 

Even the link you posted suggested that Central Igbo was taken from areas around Owerri and Umuahia (Imo and Abia) and I said Imo, Abia and Enugu having heard and being familar with dialects from those areas, so I can't understand your determination to liken Central Igbo to Umuahia.

Again I ask: are you from Umuahia ?

I have the privilege of Knowing Umuahia dialects as a son of Umuahia and speaking Central Igbo learnt from School and in town and can make educated comparison, so on what grounds are you trying to argue ?
Politics / Re: Jonathan Pledges N500bn To Boost Economy Of S-east by FACE(m): 9:46pm On Feb 12, 2011
Obiagu1:

^^^

Do you have a date?

You having a laff right ? Who would take the 52 year old minger out on a date ? A entire date of ROFLMAOing ?
Culture / Re: Which Igbo Dialect Do You Like The Most by FACE(m): 10:18am On Feb 12, 2011
ezeagu:

This thing you people are calling "SCI" is mostly the Ohuhu dialect of Umuahia, for this dialect listen to Bright Chimezie, it's actually a dialect that forms a large part of standard Igbo.

No, Umuahia-Ohuhu is a big part of Standard Igbo, you must be an Ibeku person.

Ofcourse I have told you before that I am from Ibeku, so don't act like you figured that out.

Bright Chimezie speaks urban Umuahia and not Ohuhu. There is not much difference between Ohuhu and Ibeku in terms of dialect, afterall, we are next door neighbours and I have friends and family from Ohuhu.

Are you from Umuahia ?

As an Umuahia person, it would be nice to say that central Igbo was derived from my area, but that is not the case. Central Igbo was derived from most parts of Imo, some parts of Abia and Enugu. For your information, I have a keen interest in languages and there is hardly any Igbo dialect that I won't be able to figure out. I also understand Yoruba and Hausa and would be able to talk myself out of a mess in French.
Culture / Re: We Have No Roots In Nigeria- Obi Metzeger, Ayo King by FACE(m): 4:34pm On Feb 11, 2011
Although he is not Igbo, his name was likely inherited from Igbo slaves that were in Sierra Leone.

Schon was a German missionary who learnt a variation of Igbo (Isuama ) in Sierra but was soon disappointed when he got to Igbo land because that variation was not readily understood as it was highly adulterated.

Ajayi Crowther was next and he also learnt Igbo in Sierra Leone and actually went with Sierra Leonan Igbo men (Simon Jonas and Taylor) on the second expedition and they acted as interpreters. I can't recall now but I think Taylor was later ordained to remain in Onicha. Although the Isuama Igbo was not widely understood they still based their first publication of bible texts in Igbo on the dialect.  

My point is that his name "Obi" has the roots in Igbo land, but Igbo language and culture in Sierra Leone was not carried forward.
Culture / Re: Which Igbo Dialect Do You Like The Most by FACE(m): 1:48pm On Feb 11, 2011
afam4eva:

There are two central Igbo. The written and sopken. While the written Igbo has it's origin in the Umuahia area. the spoken Igbo which is my favourite is from the Onitsha axis or Awka.

Nope, central Igbo is the same as written Igbo and the Igbo you hear on TV and Radio news. However, people hardly speak pure central Igbo during communications with others.
It's like that in UK as well, the telly and radio News English is different from the street English.

The Igbo you hear in towns and cities is Urban Igbo with a hint of the indegenous Igbo. I mean, the Igbo you hear in Aba, Owerri, Umuahia, Enugu, Osha, etc are no where near the local dialects.

I like Owerri dialect; especially when used in fighting talk by gals. "I shi nini a hu chaga gi ishi ?" ( I si na gini n'eme gi ni isi - what's your beef ?)
Culture / Re: Which Igbo Dialect Do You Like The Most by FACE(m): 11:26pm On Feb 10, 2011
asha 2:


the igbo they teach in primary and secondary school is based more on the dialect spoken around umuahia axis.

I don't think so. My friends coming to our house in Owerri had to tune their ears to UHF when I conversed with my dad and my Umuahia is even diluted.

I think central Igbo is a fusion of mainly Imo and some parts of Abia and the southern part of Enugu. It must have been developed from the Igbo spoken in urban areas as they are a fussion of many dialects and belong to no one in particular.

Abagworo:

Ohafia says "Ndaa".[b]Umuahia says "Ndaa",[/b]Ikwerre says "Ndaa".Owerri says "I mela kp'ole".Mbaise shares with Owerri,Etche,Omuma and Ngwa.Ndoki says "Olia" and Opobo says "Olia".
We are more likely to say olia than ndaa, but would mainly say: "i du oke ole ?", "I du agini", "ahu du gu ike?" "I putala ?", "ndugu oke I du?" "I meru oke ole?"
Politics / Re: What Were Gen. Buhari's 2.5 Years' Achievements? by FACE(m): 11:02am On Feb 06, 2011
Buhari's achievements during his dictatorship was to place Nigerians under military jackboot in cahoots with his rascal cohorts Abacha, IBB, Idiagbon and co after they overthrew the civilian govt of the day.

He showed himself as a lawless person with absolute disregard for lives and freedom of speech and he achieved zilch during his time, save for flogging civilians into queues and wielding absolute power.

He ruled by military fiat and was an absolute leader, which means that his words were capable of changing the cause of the nation, without any challenge from any one and all he did was to bully innocent Nigerians. Let his supporters name a single achievement of his.

What did he do with the PTF funds under him ? In a dog eat dog world, he was out-dawged by his mates but was compensated with a direct access to oil money (PTF) and he was happy with that.

If he had any integrity, he would have said no to the appointment as his mates made it clear during their coup that they were removing him because of his ideologies and were charting a different course that he originally set out to follow.

He is not the change I am waiting for.

I know that he is pained that he was out-embezzled by Abacha and IBB, but we are not giving him a chance to play catch up.
Politics / Re: Kalu Backs Ngwa To Produce Abia Gov by FACE(m): 10:39pm On Feb 01, 2011
Anyone that claims that Ngwa people are being marginalised is being mischievous and anyone that says that Abia residents deserve the rulers they get is devious, because elections are hijacked by few individuals nationwide and in a lot of cases the winners are not a reflection of people's votes, so why single out Abia. Does anyone really think that Orji would win again in a free and fair election ?

Abia has had the following governors:

Frank Ajobena , Ogbonnaya Onu ,  Ike Nwosu  , Temi Ejoor  , Moses Fasanya  , Anthony Obi  , Orji Uzor Kalu  and Theodore Orji.

None of those people are from Abia state except for the last two who also robbed the state to stupor like their predecessors.

Who, exactly has been marginalising Ngwa people ? How many governors have Ukwa,Ndoki,Oboro,Asa, Umuahia,Arochukwu, Isukwuato, Ovim, Ohafia, etc produced in the state ? What do the others have that Ngwa people do not have ?

We need to haul our freights quick time in Abia and we have no time for primitive pathetic clannish cries.

The truth is that Ngwa people have been short changed alongside other Abians from all parts of the state. With the industrial base in Abia, should Imo state be doing better than Abia ? But Imo is doing better, even with their sub-mediocre governor.

We Abians should look for true change and do our bit by voting who we feel is the right candidate for the job regardless of where the person comes from. If INEC should get their acts right, maybe, the polling machines would work and our votes would count.
Culture / Re: Masquerades In Igboland by FACE(m): 6:13pm On Jan 30, 2011
ifyalways:

^^chai chai Umuahia lee ooh.onye ga enyetum "ofe akpuru-akpu egusi" ?.O nwere ebe anyi na aga ata nsisa na afara,lol.Ala igbo amaka!

Yeah, our signature soup- Ukazi with achara na aku ife (egusi balls) na anu na azu na okporoko. (no road in the soup at all) There is another type of akpuruakpu egusi that we eat with ugba or abacha (Jigbo), can't remember what we call it now.

Afara, one of the seven children of Ibeku.
Culture / Re: Masquerades In Igboland by FACE(m): 3:11pm On Jan 30, 2011
Abagworo:

That must be Olokoro.

Nope, part of Old Umuahia is Olokoro (Umu Uvuoma) and Umuobia. I am talking about Afara. and Ceramics are in Afara Ukwu and three clans and several kindreds make up Afara Ukwu. The land for Ceramics industry was taken from my Kindred especially and part of FGGC Umuahia (formely WTC) which is opposit Ceramics was our land as well. That area is an industrial belt with at least 7 industries from what I can remember. It forms a large chunk of Umuahia starting from Govt House to Umuobia (Olokoro) to timber shed to world bank estate - Holy Ghost College to Aguiyi Ironsi Estate.

You have a fair Idea of where Olokoro is though.

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