₦airaland Forum

DeLaRue:
The challenge is that ground tomato is totally alien to most Nigerian housewives. So, unless you have a fair amount of resources to push this new product and convince people to buy, this is probably not a product most small scale Nairaland farmers can rush into.


Besides, in the Nigerian context, there is something about ground dry tomato that will leave me, and I suspect many others, wondering what else is inside that brown polythene bag other than tomato This is Nigeria. People adulterate everything. Nigerians can easily add some funny 'additives' to bulk up the weight.

At least with raw tomatoes, people see and know exactly what they are buying.

Not all ideas are easily transferable to Nigeria. That's not to say this cant work, but, hmmm....


I think this will only catch on if buyers are confident about the providence of the product.

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A number of tomato farmers should join resources and try it out. It's for their own good. It's better than selling a basket for N300. Dry tomatoes can last for yrs, so u won't be under pressure to sell off.

Trueigbo:
hello house how good are birds(pullets) from farm support

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I used them for my very first batch. But I can't judge bc it was my first experience and I made some mistakes.

mbuotidemjames:
From Amobyn

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Well, how are they now? It's hard to tell what is wrong since I'm not there. There may be something u're not doing right or so. Check ventilation, cleaniness, smoke from land etc. Always try as hard as possible to follow vaccine/medicine plan.

mbuotidemjames:
I have done that now sire...I have opened some windows and curtains for air to pass in freely, what do I give them...vitamins or ordinary water. This is making dem 1week and 1 day and ive admistered the drugs for 5 days now....no improvement.

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Which hatchery did u get them from?

I love melange farming and smoking it eventually. KIU op.

xqeypoo:
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I sent you a mail

Obiagelli:
It is way less than 0.1%. Thanks for the advice on the feeding method

That's good then.

pcoolioz:
pls does anyone have a comprehensive drug schedule for layers? I can't seem to find any, my vet gave me one but it's not comprhensive
it is weekly.. like week 2 lasota and blah blah.
does anyone have a comprehensive one. it's urgent if you have.

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There is a good one here: http://farmersjoint.com/doc-screening-lab-result.html

Obiagelli:
Couple of thousands, don't want too much info on a public forum, i hope u'll understand.

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Yes I do. Check the overall mortality, if it is greater than 5% something is wrong. And as for feeding them to fish after roasting, that's not very efficient because some microbes can survive that - like those in the intestine and in the flesh.

TeamSimple:
Although I can relate with your message, You should have kept this to yourself.

God knows best. You not God.

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God expect us to speak out against evil and warn people to repent. Keeping quiet always means that u have a skeleton in ur cupboard.

Elosky20:
its her life, God made her so, its nt a sin, atleast it is better than prostitution.

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Indecency is a sin and can lead u to hell if u don't repent.

Obiagelli:
You have some point, but when dealing with between 10 to 20 mortality everyday, its a bit of work to defeather and boil. Anyways i dont expect bacteria to survive the heat from burning/roasting, the fluid in the bird is already boiling at that point.

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Pls don't be offended, how many birds do u have? I find the mortality frightening. What is the overall mortality like?

whirlwind7:
Sincerely, I don't think the purpose of this thread is to answer ridiculous questions or respond to statements about how unhealthy or even poisonous this practice could be. Let those who see the massive opportunity in this idea learn from it.

These arguments remind me of a certain haughty lady at a grocery who was about to buy meat. when the butcher suggested she can buy some cow tongue, she took offense, and said she is above eating anything that comes from inside the mouth of an animal. The butcher then asked her: do you eat eggs? Her reply: of course I do!

Get it? She won't eat something that comes from the mouth of a cow, yet she eats something that comes from the ass of a chicken.

If all these guys haven't still realized that everything we eat comes from a cycle of nature-recycled plants, animal and even human beings, what are they doing in the agriculture section?

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I understand you bro. I just want to see if I can help some change the way they think.

Obiagelli:
I only feed my fishes with the maggot, i have never had problems doing. I even feed them with chicken mortality atimes, i just burn the feathers off the dead birds and throw the slightly roasted chicken in the pond.

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A lot of people do it that way. But for me, I'll prefer cooking it first for 2 reasons: to kill dangerous bacteria and to make it more digestible. Most time it is impossible to know whether something is working if u did not try it the other way. And one thing with bacteria and viruses is that they may not strike ur fish immediately until after weeks have passed. They can also slow down growth without u noticing.
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Many pigs farmers are also making this mistake. They believed that a pig is a pig and so u can feed them any dirty scrap and get away with it. Farmers like that don't usually succeed bc by the time u go large scale and continue feeding them as before, diseases will soon close down the farm and frustrate u out of the business. I don't joke with dangerous bacteria and viruses. Respect them and u'll go far in agriculture.

Obiagelli:
Do you mean feeding water leaf? no

.. With this mtd of raising maggots.

jeckin205:
Farm Tech@ Will it be hygeine to Mix maggot with poultry feed and feed its to chickenWill it be hygeine to Mix maggot with poultry feed and feed its to chicken

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Yes, so far as u sterilize it with very hot water. Or u steam cook it .

GURION:
Lols...remember those vegetables also grow well on soil enriched by dead and decomposing animals/human beings.
Whichever way u look at it...its a cycle.

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The simple solution for such people is to change the way they think. Don't try to follow follow what vegetarians are doing. It is an unhealthy way to live and a kind of self-imposed bondage.

Obiagelli:
The bolded is why i dont try it on my birds, the only non conventional thing i do with my birds is feeding them water leaf in very hot weather to boost vitamins and minerals.

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With this my method, there is no need to fear botulism.

lepasharon:
I am aware of that but still...
There is a reason why Jewish people eat Kosher. They say you are what you eat. Imagine eating chicken..which has consumed maggots that consumed feces.

People should have respect for their body

Are you like an agricultural scientist?

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Christians don't follow jewish laws. Nothing God created shud be called impure if u recieve it with thanksgiving. The statement "you are what u eat" doesn't apply here so far as u maintain a balanced diet. If u go vegetarian, the vegetables u'll be eating are being fertilized by manure too.
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No I'm not an agric scientist, just had passion for it.

lepasharon:
Ahhh...I'm so disgusted...maybe I'll go vegetarian

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U just need to change your psychology and most things like these will no longer maters. Learn how digestion works. When an animal eat wierd stuffs, the stuff get digested in terms of protein, carbohydrate, etc, and not in terms of the wierd stuff. Protein is protein no matter where u get it from. The diffeference might just be the amino acid profile.
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But if you decide to go vegetarian u have a lot of readings to do to avoid malnutrition.

neoapocalypse:
This isn't new and it has been in existence since I can remember , maggots are good sources of protein for animal feeding. Have you been to Shongai farms in Benin Republic ? You need to see where they grow their maggots.

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I've not been there, have you? How do they grow theirs'

Mrbigman1:
Re u kidding me?

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No, u may understand when u experience famine first hand. Then u'll know that maggots, house rats, lizards etc are edible and you'll find them delicious. It is better than cannibalism which normally occur during famine.

lepasharon:
Ewwww!

So you feed chickens and fish maggots, then people come and eat that?

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Do you eat wild fishes? Or free range chickens? Or bush meats? If yes, don't be afraid because these animals have eaten a lot of things before they got to your table, including dead and decaying human beings.

bamdexfarms:
defattening will increase the protein density of the maggots.

.. But how is the defating done? I'm interested.

prinsam30:
pls how can someone preserve these maggots, is it an everyday processing?

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Once you dry it very well and store in an airtight container or nylon, it will last for years.

Jacko1:
If you wanna harvest cockroach... Ma soakaway has plenty..... It is a very viable produce for fish and chicken too.... Keep up the good work....

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I despise cockroaches, and you went beyond that to mention soakaway.

thaoriginator:
Can it be eaten with indomie?

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Only do that when there is famine. Just get the knowledge and store it just in case.

Obiagelli:
I have been doing this for year, i feed my fish with them.
I normally use mortality from the chicken farm, never fed maggots to my birds though.

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I've heard where people use it for fish as you said. But the problem there is the smell from rotting chicken. How do u deal with that? Also without sterilizing the maggots, the animals may suffer from botulism, esp poultry and other land animals, I don't know about fish.

musicwriter:
Good job!!.

What you've done here is you have created ORIGINAL wealth from thin air!. This's exactly the type of skill citizens from countries like US, Japan, Germany, possess and they use it to create products that we import. They exploit nature with knowledge of science thereby creating wealth from thin air!.

As you noted, flies are free so the sky is your limit, if you could find a way to monetize your product and expand your production capacity.

This's exactly the type of endeavors Africa need to get us out of poverty and the culture of dependency, and I explained this thoroughly in the part 2 of the link on my signature.

Indeed, Africa cannot develop without investment in grassroots science.

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Nice writeup, white men have been using our brains for a long time, esp in the area of commerce.
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I'm looking up to scaling it up little by little. That's hw u learn from ur mistakes as u grow.

dominique:
Very remarkable, I know maggots are sometimes used in hospitals to get rid of putrid wounds (I saw it in a documentary and was amazed at how neat the wound became by the time the maggots were removed). I love the way our modern day agriculturists think outside the box

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It is called maggot therapy. It is a very effective method to clear decaying wound since the maggots will only feed on dead flesh and leave the live flesh alone. But I wonder how that would feel on someone's body.

Okijajuju1:
Clear up some points for me please

I got up to the part of attracting the flies. Where I got confused is how did you separate the fly eggs/maggots from the compost you used to attract the flies?

SO if we use fruits, are the eggs not layed on the fruits?

If we use garbage or feaces, how do we separate the garbage from the eggs.


Thanks.

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U don't need to separate the eggs. They will hatch and start feeding on the manure. It is the maggot that you separate as shown.

BELEXYFARMS:
Nice write up and pics. How long does one need to wait for the flies to finish laying before covering up the growing bowl?

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I started it in the evening around 4pm and close it towards night time.