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GodIsGood08:
Did the research really prove GMO is 100% the cause of cancer in rat? I'm not sure you have shared the link but if you already did, please pardon me. But could you kindly share the link again?

My brother, I'm well grounded in organic agricultural related issues. I'm sure you already know I prefer organically grown food to GMO; however, there are issues to address.

Organic fruits grown with mineral from sea water and rocks are damn sweet. You can't beat the taste. Brix level of fruits can be raised organically....mehn! One can get into another level of happiness and joy when you eat good, fresh, sweet fruits.

Having said that, there are issues to tackle. Ok. Can you give me strategic analysis of how you can feed just Lagosians (approx 16 million people) organically? Let's discuss. I want to really learn from you.

Waiting for your reply. Please, take your time and come up with a nice strategic plan. Anyone who is interested in contributing can join. This thread may be the KEY to solving hunger in Africa.

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I'm not an organic farming fanatics. what I'm against is GMO. as for the link, I'll find it when i' m less bizy. we don't need GMO to feed the world.

Go to Afor nnobi and book for it.

vanpeele:
Nice blog. Seems you focus mainly on livestock. In my opinion, poultry and fish aren't profitable except if the people buying after you've laboured buy it at a good price. Managing crops is easier. Regarding life, goats, sheep and cows are better. They're easier to manage (IMO) than fish and chicken.

More grease to you blog elbows.

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That poultry and fish aren't profitable? I don't' agree oo.

vickychuk:
Pls op what size in gram was ur murano pack of 5k+ (ie was it the 450gram pack or the 150gram pack?
Does anyone in the house know any agro seed dealer in anambra?
Thank you

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In anambra, go to ADP office in awka. it is opp kwarter junctn. I bought 10g premier cucumber seed there. cost N270.

Basifrank:
With global climatic conditions as well as deteriorating farming environment and high rate of malnutrition, truly GMO/Plant breeding has come to stay. There is no proof to ascertain whether these crops cause/don't cause health and environmental hazards. Till date WHO,FAO,NAFDAC et al have not come out to restrict or ban the cultivation and consumption of these crops. These crops too do well in organic fertilized farmlands. My point is while we are scared of the issues of GMO innovation, we should be open minded and have our facts right.

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Most time it is not all about the health of the population that these organisations are concern about. it's politics. Control politicians and u can use them as puppets. Why haven't they ban cigarette? It's BC the tobacco company is powerful. politicians are shareholders.
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Those claiming that GMO is safe, answer this simple questn for me. why did research showed that GMO corn caused cancer in rats? Some GMO companies are quit powerful, so I won't be surprise if GMO have come to stay. But for those who care about their health, try as much as possible to avoid GMO foods. But if u support them, eat on, time shall tell.

flaws and flaws. he I wish I have the time to expose them.

it is one thing to give antibiotics, but another thing to give the correct dosage and the right antibiotics. take some dead and sick birds to an animal lab. which antibiotics have u given so far?

mercylicious:
And suddenly, a post made in 2012 starts trending in 2016 and emails start flying.
Fnk has gone beyond the small scale backyard research /test .

For all the ppl dropping their mails here, you better start reading from page one to last. You will get all d info u need.

Cheers

@farmtech, e don tey ooo. How is your farm?

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Been quit buzzy 4 some time. My farm is doing fine. expanding is next thing in mine. How about yours? Did u later set up the plantain farm

Hmm, me I went into crop farming this yr on 2 plots of land. Rain has been very unreliable. I've made ridges but I'm afraid to plant yet bc of rain. The little I planted I have to water myself.
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I'll like to ask. If there is rain 2day and u plant sth like maize, cucumber, ugu, okro, water melon the next day. Then there is no rain for the next 7 days, will the plants all die?

This is why evryone shud try and get a dog in ur house. Dogs are like alarm bell. Whenever strangers hover around ur compound they'll alert u. This wouldn't hav happened in the presence of ekuke/bingo. If u need sth more terrible on intruders, go for rott, pitbull, german shepherd etc.

Some useful links: http://www.panna.org/resources/ddt-story http://www.google.com.ng/search?q=Mosanto+and+ddt+pesticide&client=ms-opera-mini&channel=new&gws_rd=cr&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&tbm=

Can tomato thrive in SE?

Nice idea op. I too will go into crop farming this yr.

I wish her safe delivery. Thank God she dresses modestly. May God gave her the wisdom to raise Godly children in Jesus name.

osesology:
They both lodged in the hotel...I hope it's not what I'm thinking.

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U can't just judge carelessly like that. From the look of her hand, there was a serious struggle b4 she was killed. Only proper investigatn can reveal the truth.

GodIsGood08:
Good link above.

Please, I am discussing, not debating and not confronting anyone.

Its normal for pro organic organisations like "MotherEarthNews.com" to be 100% biased but i am just surprise the site didnt cite enough scientific researches to back up their concerns. However, the issue of glyphosate makes sense in a way. In the other way, its not GM plants they said caused cancer but glyphosate (pesticide). A good attorney can easily win the case because every Jack and Jerry understand that not only glyphosate can cause cancer but all pesticides. Simple directions like not spraying 21 days to harvest is a way to just strike off this claim. So, it means that the inability to follow usage of glyphosate is the cause of cancer and not the GM seeds.

Again, I read the issue raised where GM plants couldn't reduce use of pesticide. Brothers and sisters, you can develop seeds to counter limited pests and not all pests. Since you are limited, it's logical to develop seeds that can resist the main notorious pests in your area. Afterward, use pesticide to chase less notorious ones and finally, you need to rotate spraying pesticide active ingredients. Just normal agricultural practice addresses the issue again.

Really, GM food can have side effects. I read the place where it's written it caused liver problems in rats. Note: This was not done in US. It was in France. But in the article, there's a concluding part that says the French authority set up a neutral body which is from the European Union Board and the result of the panel after investigation countered the claim. So, the wise thing here is to look at the reasons why the claims were countered.

So, MotherEarthNews.com just criticized the use of pesticide, inorganic farming and not GM seeds. But organic farming has its own dangers too. You get infected with E-Coli and others if you don't compost manure well. How many farmers compost properly in Nigeria? LOL!

One GM food approach I don't support:
The US has refused to label GM fruits on shelves and this is where I agree with MotherEarthNews.com. Why?

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I get ur points. One reason why I don't like GMO or trust national food authorities is bc with money, these companies can have their way even if their products have questionable health effect. Think of chemicals like DDT and others that hav been banned. When they were in use, I believe scientists here and there would hav been writing against them but the authorities ignore them. If we really want to avoid birth defects, organ failures etc, organic farming is the way to go. Ecoli is not much of a problem if u wash or cook ur produce very well b4 consumption. In the case of GM, they will inject bacteria gene into crops without caring about what might happen in the future. All they care about is now.

Here is a useful link about the dangers of GMO.
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http://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading-and-livestock/sustainable-farming/genetically-modified-foods-zm0z12amzmat.aspx.
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Some imp. Facts frm the link are:
1. Mosanto refuse to give indepent scientists his GM seeds for study. Instead he pays some scientists to favor his seeds in their research.
2. Mosanto have genetically engineered some crops to withstand glyphosphate herbicide. And studies have shown that this herbicide cause birth defects in birds and cancer.
3. GM seeds do not reduce the use of pesticides. In fact, some corn borers are developing resistance.
4. GM corn causes liver and kidney toxicity in rats.
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Hybrids are far better than GM seeds bc it follows a natural process that is safer than GM. GM is highly unpredictable.
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Another interesting link I came across: https://www.nairaland.com/3026544/five-million-nigerians-oppose-monsantos.

Eggcelent:
pcoolioz. As observed by Oga Alakara above, brooding/rearing them together could be responsible. Turkeys are carriers of NCD which can be fatal to chicken (cockerels inclusive). However, to be 100% sure, you make consider sending some of the mortalities for lab test. In the meantime, separating the turkeys & cockerels will be a great move. Success.

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Agreed with this. But the poster didn't tell us symptoms so we can give further info.

mbuotidemjames:
Hello farmers...I want to ask this question that has been troubling me for many days now:
(1) Why is a breeding/brooding room of day old chicks to 2weeks heated?
Becos I have 198 birds of about 1 week now I hardly heat up their room and even when I heat it..becos the room is large,its not hot but just so warm..........
(2) does heating after their growing possitively,negatively or it just to keep them from dying of cold. Explain it for me..thankyou

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Cold will kill them. Low temperature will make them grow slowly and will make them catch disease easily. Don't joke with the correct temperature. See http://www.farmersjoint.com/blog/livestock-farming/poultry/raising-chicks-things-you-must-do-during-the-first-week/ for more info on how to avoid chick deaths.

jethro2:
The first 10 people will be participating in the April training while the farm project take off by May.

Quote me anywhere
" Vegetables price will be on the high side"

Tomatoes are already having challenges in the North due to excess rainfall this year.

The smart ones will make the move

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I thought south has more rainfall than north?

zenith4biz:
We are not all sinners!

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What many tend to 4get when they say "we are all sinners" or "christ comes for sinners" is that Christ's expectatn is that sinners shud repent and escape the coming judgement. The first coming was with grace, but the second coming will be violent and without mercy.

Keep it up. Do u keep proper record?

illmatic101:
FarmTech can you move this to front page, no be only earthworm, snakes, Tonto... (what's that her last name again) deserves front page

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Only the super mods can do that. I can only recommend this link.

NICOLAZ:
just antibiotics and vitamins

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They can't survive without vaccination. See a sample vaccinatn plan here: http://www.farmersjoint.com/blog/livestock-farming/poultry/raising-chicks-things-you-must-do-during-the-first-week/ http://farmersjoint.com/doc-screening-lab-result.html

This shud make front page now? I checked mine and it's not ready. And I've registered long time ago!

canalily:
mind u that christ said he come for the sinners. Think abt it. Do you and the pastor know whether they hav come for repentance? What point have you made? He shouldnt segregate them for we all are sinners. Hey! Pls grow up!

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If u read the article well, the pastor was refering to thieves, cultists etc THAT DON'T WANT TO REPENT.

ojimbo:
Just to keep relevant. but between men and women, who owns the trouser and shirt please?

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For me, the problem is not trouser. The problem is modesty. The bible never specifically said trouser, but it says women shud not put on men's cloth and vice versa. Meaning that a woman shud not wear man's cloth and try to look like a man, vis-a-vis.
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But the problem with trousers is that u ask urself- how many women put on decent trousers? Instead they go for undersize trousers that will bring out their curves. Those wearing skirt even find it difficult to dress modestly. So I believe the emphasis shud be on modesty, not trousers. A decent trouser has its own advantages for ladies and it can do a better job in ensuring modesty. U may be interested in this article: http://www.farmersjoint.com/Thread-Modest-Vs-Immodest-Dressing-What-is-God-Saying-About-Them?pid=1343#pid1343

skedobo:
The Lord Jesus Christ only should be our message. By His death, the sacrifices and offerings have been replaced with the sacrifice of Christ once for all. So the issue of offering and tithes shouldn't be a subject of discussion because they don't please God. Only the Lord Jesus pleases the Father

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Real end time message bro. Read ur bible very well. Did the apostles focus only on what u listed? Salvation is bigger than that thing u listed. The apostles went deeper to explain the need for newly repented christians to drop their old nature. When u expand that, old nature include immodest dressing, stealing, fornicatn, embezzlement, witchcraft and a lot more. The ones u focus more on is the one u see ur neighbors engaging in.
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Why I admire this pastor is bc most pastors can hardly make such statement.

canalily:
Thou shall not judge! Even you pastor are you completely righteous

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What's ur pt really? So bc he's not 100% righteous he shud not warn sinners to repent? Was any of Jesus's apostles 100% righteous? Talking about thou shall not judge, that's one of the most misquoted part of the bible by every "christian" sinners. But a nairalander explained it here: https://www.nairaland.com/2829506/why-should-not-pay-attention.

Sunymoore:
Holy shittt! Why are you criticizing a man of God? If not that God is merciful, you'll burn in hell for eternity for this

But for real, that's the high concentration of undiluted Bullshit I ever heard , God don't give two fuckss about the fuel in your tank...

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If God care about birds and ur strand of hair, why won't he care about fuel? Read ur bible to help u avoid blasphemy and use of ungodly slangs.

illmatic101:
Come this matter serious ooh, do you know this GMO also changes the genetics of other plants around it?

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The only set of people that will support bill gate are those who know nothing about GMO. In simple terms, if u buy their seed and plant. Then u harvest many seeds, sell some and plant some. Those ones u plant will not produce well and u'll suffer loss. To make profit, u must go back to bill gate to buy his seed. That way they'll end up controlling farmers. If they set high price u won't beat them.
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The most dangerous is that their seed can pollinate other different seeds close by and affect their yield and other characteristics.