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1 eggs appeared yesterday, at 20wks and 3 days old. 2 eggs appeared today. Hoping in God.

Pavore9:
Though there is nchi here in Kenya but it is a protected animal, kill one na arrest be that!

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So unfortunate.

pamdaniel:
so amazed its verry motorable and very close to the main road

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Goodluck. Can you open a thread and keep us updated? I'll follow it.

pamdaniel:
it was leased at 28k

.. Ok tnks. Is it close to main road and is it motorable during rainy season?

obamat:
Farm tech you can't just say something is not right when you've not seen it. I am telling you what I experience here. You can confirm from dyoungforester I bought 50 pieces of snail from him and I am telling you that the one I hatched 5weeks ago is near the size of some of those I bought from him. I was told those eggs are from Benin snails which are the largest.

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The eggs u bought from the girl or dyoungforester? Snails don't grow like that. Rethink.

nikaShow:
Thanks for sharing @ op, this is something I have interest in in the long term!
Is there a 'standard/ fixed - 'waste combination to make it work or do I just go and dilute cow dung and use it? Or do I add artificial enzymes etc?

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There is something called the carbon-nitrogen ratio. If u don't get it within range u will have a biogas plant that doen't wk well or a urine-smell plant. More info:
http://www.farmersjoint.com/blog/livestock-farming/biogas-production-avoid-failure-by-using-the-correct-carbon-nitrogen-ratio/ http://www.farmersjoint.com/Thread-Biogas-from-Chicken-Manure
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From another thread:
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Kayyhe:
@ Pavore9, thanks for the eye opener as regards the biogas. My question is what is the rate of consumption of a 300kg of biogas when used cooking and to power electrical gadget like 3000W output? Thanks in anticipation for a quick response

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In addition, u'll get exactly that info here: 1. http://www.farmersjoint.com/Forum-Agro-Processing
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2. http://www.farmersjoint.com/Thread-Volume-of-Biogas-Needed-for-Cooking-Electricity-and-Lighting
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3. http://www.farmersjoint.com/Thread-Comparing-Fuel-Value-of-Biogas-with-Firewood-Diesel-Petrol-Kerosene-Cow-Dung-LPG

fnk:
A big thanks to everyone on this thread for your concern and condolence messages, really appreciate it. The funeral brouhaha!!! went well.

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We tnk God oo.

obamat:
@omo17 i agree with you 100%, I bought some snails from market as I dont have bush in my area where I can pick and for three months now I didnt see any serious changes and to buttress your point, I collected some big sizes eggs from the girl selling the snails and prepared them for hatching , luckily 4 of 10 hatched and I am telling you the snails are just 5 weeks old now and their size is already nearing those ones I bought over 3 months ago I`ve resulted in consuming my old ones gradually and looking for eggs to start my own big size snails farm.

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Nairalanders do u smell a rat with me here? Chei! U kept adult snails for 3 months. Then u hatch baby snails and kept them for 5 weeks. Size of 5 wks baby snails are now nearing the size of the adult. Guy, u don't know anything about snails.

omo17:
I quiet understand u, and i think u shd understand wat i mean by d agric type, am talking about d popular African giant snail (Archachatina marginata) dat farmers normally rear for commercial purposes. this breed are different from the one u picked from bushes . pls go to any farm or market nd see for urself wat i mean by big snail, am sure u will see a big difference. Am yet to see snail picked from bushes nd breed to a large snail. Am also yet to see a farmer dat will tell me he/she started snailery from picking snail from bushes. No matter how dey adapt, dey always have certain size dey will reach, it won't command gud price in d market.
Am talking from experience. It's wat av done in d past. Am a confirm snail Hunter.

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Snail size is a function of yrs. Keep bush snails for 2 yrs under good management condition and they'll attain the same size as the "agric snail". U can find a. Marginata in the bush.

base83:
oh thanks alot, never know that there are "agric" snails too. I will find out more about it though. Concerning the soil I have been removing the eggs from the main pen to another place, however none has hatch could that be the reason cos i moved the eggs? Please can u explain that better, cos i thought the bigger snails will eat d eggs if left together.
thanks agaain

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Once again, there is nothing like agric snails. As for the eggs, separate them from the snails and keep them moist by burrying in a shallow soil and watering. I've hatched several snails that way.

omo17:
I av to be honest with u, don't expect this snail u hand pick to grow any bigger, I want to belif u pick dem up from the Bush, u have change there natural habitat, although dey will definitely mature but not in size, am talking from experience. in fact i still av some i picked last week again. The only hope for bigger snail is the one coming from there hatched egg, i want to bilif dey av started laying eggs, those one will definitely grow in size because this is the environment they were brought up. even with dat, dey can only attain the normal size u c around d Bush because there breed is different from d agric type u see being rear by farmers. Those snails u find in the Bush are different from the one being reared purposely for commercial purposes. D Bush type when they attain full size will always be small compare to the agric type. hp u get wat am saying. U can't rear d one u hand pick nd expect to make huge profit compare to d agric type, am using d phrase "agric type because I don't knw the name for the breeds, but definitely i knw wat am saying. in essence, wat am saying is dat if u want to practice commercial snail farming (purposely for selling) forget abt those hand picked nd go for gud breed. They are just different.

With regards to changing soil, do not change soil. those eggs won't hatch dat way. Leave d soil

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Pls Permit me to correct this. There is nothing like agric snail yet, and I don't think there will be for a very long time. The ones u pick in the bush can still adapt and grow big. If u want baby snails that grow fast, hatch eggs from very big snails.

tabontabon:
Bro What Am Trying To Say Is Things Are Changing Gradually.S

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Ok bro. Do we have any such breed in the south hatcheries?

It's been a long time. Hw is ur farm doing @Merci

greenmatorganic:
Never use manure as part of your compost from vermiculture
Material...

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U can use manure from farm animals. In fact, manure from pigs make excellent fertilizers. The thing there is to balance manure with a high carbon source like carbohydrate food waste and papers, cartons etc. Or you can load only one wide of the pile with manure so that the earthworms can have other places to go if the manure starts heating up excessively. In fact, the heat can help them multiply during cold periods.

nikaShow:
Hmmm...is there any Nigerian-practising farmer on this vermiculture that can share his 'real life/ practical' experience on this?

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I've started my own oo. In two 25L jerrycans cut in half. I'm currently experimenting on it and it's going on fine.

Very serious. I knew how whites hate mosanto, but I never knew bill gate was connected to it. This thread need to be alive.

blacq2009:
Thanks for this priceless info. Please wanna venture into poultry farming. Which one would be ok for the start as far as finance is concerned-broiler or layers?

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Broiler of course.

I wonder how good is quail egg market. It's not common in my side.

tabontabon:
Just To Let You Know, There Are Birds That Lay By 16wks Now With No Side Effects Like Small Eggs Or Early Drop In Production. Technology And Genetic Manipulation Is Advancing.

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We're talking about the ones we all commonly have access to.

davidzfarm18:
The fact is that birds should start dropping between 17-19weeks. anything above that is an issue. when a lady passes her EDD. definitely she would be disturbed.
concerning the Egg weight issue. I just learnt that its not by the age at start of lay but the weight and management practice.

A pullets that started laying @ 17 weeks and weigh 1.5kg will give you bigger eggs than
1.45kg @ 22weeks.

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I don't agree with this. A pullet that start laying at 17 wks and weigh 1.5kg is probably fat. Fat birds don't lay well. U have to follow feeding and body wt plan for ur breed.

poulvacancy15:
I don't agree with this. You might not be perturbed if you plan that your pullets should not be laying by 19 weeks but it is an issue if you didn't. Its not helpful for the fellow who asked the question not to also get the right response and I believe he should answer the question raised on the weight of the bird. In addition can he tell us the breed of the bird he has stocked. This would allow a snap shot review of his posting.

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U're right about the weight. But birds normally start lay btw 18-24wks.

jaelz:
its constructed tho u could just improvise or mail me to get yours

.. Tnks, but I don't need it now but will keep in touch.

crownzade:
Kudos to everyone here. I notice some of my DOC are sleeping while some are playing. Is it the normal for them to be sleepy in their first week? Please help me out.

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Hw old are they? Hav u treated for cocci. Vaccinatn

Dorammy:
No I have nt given any vaccine, today friday is their fourth day.

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Very sorry for the late reply. For layers vaccinatn plan see this: http://farmersjoint.com/doc-screening-lab-result.html. But due to the cost of injectible vaccines, I don't think you will use that for few birds.

pamdaniel:
i got a land(a hecter) at aniocha and i want to go into watermelon, is there any one around there who is into water melon?

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Hw much did u get the land?

I hungry and thirst to be an integrated farmer some day. Tnks for sharing.

Nice one @Jaelz, where did u get the biogas stove?

Neduzze5:
Lolz, that was how I learnt in HTML ooh.... Twas quite funny and got me banned.

Thanks to you, thanks to Pavore9

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Normally, forums don't allow it to prevent hacking.

pcoolioz:
yes I did, the plan is a program I was given by a vet who raises broilers, they stop drinking when they are weak, the liquid food only works if they still eat or drink, it would only work if I decide to force it down its throat or smtn..

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What I normally do is to help them drink using a syringe. I do that to all my sick birds and it takes time. The last ones I did it to were over 20 and only one died. If you just leave them like that, a lot will die.